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Title: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 7:41am

It's on it's way, according to an e-mail I got from Badlands record store two days ago advertising the Texas '78 DVD.

And now Mick is talking about it on German TV whilst doing his SuperHeavy promotional interviews. There will be ten previously unreleased songs :

Complete 17-minute interview from Gernany's ZDF here :

http://www.highwire-therollingstones.de/
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1434976/Exklusiv-Mick-Jagger-zu-SuperHeavy

Many thanks to HighwireC for sharing it

This hasnt been a bad week so far, eh?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Heart Of Stone on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:13am

Thanks Gazza for sharing that great interview, no Stones tour planned at the moment is what Mick said at the end.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:36am

10 extra tracks. Hells yeah!

More new Mick vocals, à la 'Exile', but that ain't no hanging matter to me.

BRING IT!!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by LadyJane on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:59am

Heart Of Stone wrote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:13am:

Thanks Gazza for sharing that great interview, no Stones tour planned at the moment is what Mick said at the end.

Correct but there is a discernable gleam in his eye after he utters those words.
And I've studied this man for nearly 40 years!!!! ;)

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 9:48am

This hasnt been a bad week so far, eh?

Wow,what do you know. Real actual Stones activity. :keithpunky :willya

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 10:29am

Heart Of Stone wrote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 8:13am:

Thanks Gazza for sharing that great interview, no Stones tour planned at the moment is what Mick said at the end.

Standard procedure. He'll always be guarded until it's official.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 10:56am

Exactly. 'Sides that, the interview was to promote SuperHeavy.
Mick's shrewd and savvy enough to ensure that the focus was kept there.

Affirmation of future Stones plans would've generated global headlines and instantly relegated SH to the back burner...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by DiamondsDisease on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 11:17am

The most interesting thing he said during this interview is when he summarized the band members in 1962 and asked Charlie when he joined the band (which was 1963, if I remember correctly). So maybe according to Mick this would mean they should do the anniversary tour in 2013. This would give them another year to make a complete new album. This is probably wishfull thinking from my point of view. As much as I love to see them touring again, I really hope they will take another year to make an incredible album and then go out to hit the world. That really would be something.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 11:29am

Bit of goalpost-moving in that case considering they commemorated their 40th anniversary in 2002.

Leaving five years between tours at this stage in their careers is bad enough. Six years would be idiocy.

Theres no reason why they cant make a new record in time for a tour next summer. Theyve done it on that timescale several times before.

However, in the next few months, there'll be a Some Girls Deluxe and a 'new' career-spanning retrospective. I honestly think a new album is unlikely as a) it would be flooding the market and b) there isnt really the hunger for it amongst the band or their target audience.

I think you're more likely to see a tour starting next summer, running to summer 2013, and taking place on the back of another greatest hits release, which will include a few new songs.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by dadrob on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 1:51pm

for real now..when was the last time (pun noted) that anyone saw KR play enough guitar to do a show????......put a fork in em and enjoy what we have

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Nellcote on Sep 9^th, 2011 at 3:00pm

Let the speculation derby begin!

Jagger says on the interview...
10 unreleased tracks
He had to add vocals
to tracks which did not have vocals....so.....

Here's the tracks from Girls, Pills & Powders
We can whittle down the multi takes of released songs

Discuss.

Disc 1
01. Miss You #2
02. When The Whip Comes Down #1
03. Just My Imagination #4
04. Some Girls #3
05. Lies #1
06. Far Away Eyes #1
07. Respectable #3
08. Before They Make Me Run #4
09. Beast Of Burden #1
10. Shattered #2

Disc 2

01. Claudine #1
02. Fiji Jim #1
03. Never Let Her Go
04. You Win Again
05. Lucky In love
06. Never Make Me Cry #1
07. I Can't Help It #3
08. No Spare Parts
09. Everlasting Is My Love #2
10. Someone Know
11. Start Me Up
12. The Way She Held Me Tight
13. And I Know
14. Yellow Cab
15. Black Limousine #2
16. It's A Lie #2
17. Petrol Gang

Disc 3

01. Claudine #2
02. Fiji Jim #2
03. A Different Kind
04. I Need You
05. Everlasting Is My Love #3
06. Never Make Me Cry #2
07. I Can't Help It #4
08. Some People Tell Me
09. Everlasting Is My Love #1
10. Disco Musik
11. Start Me Up #2
12. Hang Fire
13. Shame Shame Shame
14. Yellow Cab #1
15. Black Limousine #2
16. Biscuit Blues
17. It's All Wrong

Disc 4

01. Everything Is Turning To Gold #2
02. Miss You #4
03. When The Whip Comes Down #2
04. Lies #3
05. Far Away Eyes #2
06. Black Limousine #3
07. Up Against The Wall #2
08. I Can't Help It #1
09. Fiji Jim #3
10. So Young
11. When You're Gone
12. Everything Is Turning To Gold #1

Disc 5
01. Munich Hilton #1
02. Golden Caddy #1
03. Golden Caddy #2
04. Golden Caddy #4
05. Broken Toe
06. Armpit Blues
07. Broken Leaves #2
08. Light Up
09. Much Spreading
10. Stay Where You Are
11. I Can't Help It #5
12. Broken Head Blues
13. I Can't Help It #3
14. Munich Hilton #2
15. Follow You
16. Shattered #1
17. Feel No Pain No More
18. Los Trios Guitaros
19. Up Against The Wall #1
20. Slow Blues

As always, thank you for your support & cooperation!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 4:51am

It's an exciting time to be a Rolling Stones fan! :D

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by riffkeither on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 6:11am

I hope Claudine & Fiji Jim be out soon !

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by corgi37 on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:56am

Claudine might be tricky. Andy Williams is still alive.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Teiz on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 8:57am

Well...looks like the succes of the Exile reissue left the vaults wide open. Bring it on!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Martha on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 9:03am

This is GREAT news.....LJ, you are ON it like a Cat.....I have never given up on them touring again. Looks good to me! xoxo, Martha

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by riffkeither on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 10:35am

corgi37 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Claudine might be tricky. Andy Williams is still alive.

Jagger can say Pauline ! as Claudine ..... like Let's spend sometimes together

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 11:56am

corgi37 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Claudine might be tricky. Andy Williams is still alive.

More importantly, so is Claudine Longet.

An absolute non-starter to release that one.

'Fiji Jim' was re-done in 1993 with new vocals as a potential Voodoo Lounge b-side (as was 'So Young', which they eventually used), so there must be a good chance that it'll be released.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Ian Billen on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 11:08pm

[quote author=Gazza link=1315572086/0#8 date=1315585764]Bit of goalpost-moving in that case considering they commemorated their 40th anniversary in 2002.

Leaving five years between tours at this stage in their careers is bad enough. Six years would be idiocy.

Theres no reason why they cant make a new record in time for a tour next summer. Theyve done it on that timescale several times before.

________________________________

There is still plenty of time for a new album. Especially, if their is some material already written, or worked on. They still have a year = still ample time as you noted.

However, in the next few months, there'll be a Some Girls Deluxe and a 'new' career-spanning retrospective. I honestly think a new album is unlikely as a) it would be flooding the market and b) there isnt really the hunger for it amongst the band or their target audience.

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I can't see them doing an exact repeat of the 2002-2003 Licks concept. The Stones and their camp/management/promoters are smart enough to realize that slating to do basically an exact repeat of something that strangely, doesn't seem like that long ago could be a stale business move. They have to come up with something a bit different to at least keep the media, and fans truly interested.

I'd still go as far to say that they will do a new album. Keith has stated a few times that he is definitely interested in getting The Stones back in the studio and Mick has also stated The Rolling Stones will do more records. I take that as in he meant ...recording new albums... who wouldn't? Besides, Mick will want to keep The Stones on the side of being a productive band, more than simply another touring nostalgia act as opposed to Fleetwood Mac or The Eagles as much as possible (whether they truly are, are not is not the point...the point is that he's the lead singer, and final call person and he never wanted The Stones to be put into that category).

I think this is going to be another grand scale tour and it will come with a release of ample new material in one form or another?... I think perhaps this time the new material will, some how be released in a slightly different schedule or different package than before. Just not sure how they are going to do it (most probably, this is their very last "major international extravaganza"... Yep, even I, must finally, after all these years admit my recent opinion. There is a chance they may do things as a group and continue even after this...possibly? However, this is going to be the last stadium hoping, year or year and a half long major undertaking for them. The guys are basically 70 years old...how could it "not be" the last "huge", grand scale, big project and international trek for them..?).

Ian

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 1:47pm

Tall order, Ian.

2012 will see UMG release the Some Girls Deluxe AND a career-spanning retrospective. Both of those will be at least double-disc releases. That doesn't leave a lot of room for a release that not only would mean the most work but which there isn't exactly much demand for.

Mick and Keith parroting the usual party line about being a current band means nothing. The lack of new output since 1997 tells you everything you need to know. Why by this time people continue to take that at face value never ceases to amaze.

What do you expect them to say? Admit that they've little urge to create new material, that they've little interest in performing it, and acknowledge that they're a nostalgia act?

Don't see that anyone's stated anything to suggest they'll repeat the Licks tour 'concept'. If, by that you mean the three types of shows with three types of setlists theme.

If you mean the 'greatest hits' sets however that they did on the Licks stadium shows, then they've already repeated it. They called it the 'Bigger Bang' tour.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by gotdablouse on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 2:04pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 11:56am:

corgi37 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Claudine might be tricky. Andy Williams is still alive.

Have you seen that confirmed recently or is it the info I've been rehashing for years after reading that in an old AOL Mick interview that I never found again? According to Manoeuvre in the 12/93 edition of Rock'N'Folk (or was it the one were he covered the VL PR ?) Mick had rerecorded 6 six songs at a NY studio (Record Plan ?) to be used as extra tracks for the Virgin releases. Nothing was ever heard of that again...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

No - nothing new. Just based on the same info thats been around for several years.

Of course, we've no info on whats going to be ON the Some Girls Deluxe - just pointing out that there's no need to rework Fiji Jim as they did it already many years ago.

Zentgraf lists 'So Young' as having been reworked in LA in early 1994, but doesnt mention any other songs that were done in similar fashion.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Ian Billen on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 6:56pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:

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It "is" a tall order... however, a meeting this soon would easily mean they are setting dates and a time scale. If it was simply to state the obvious, that of touring next year, there would be absolutely no need to fly to London and "meet" this early. They could easily agree to that by phone. Keith has been in London for a while... he lives in Connecticut. What is the guy doing there lately?.. .. .. Something is going on fo-sho.

The reason they all met, openly, front door entrance and all is to start the hype a brewing. They are not stupid, and as well they have met several times in the past and nobody photographed a thing and many times we had absolutely no idea until weeks/months after the fact. This so called meeting of them was quite purposeful in letting us know they are doing something.

There is no reason to "tease" a waiting fan-base, and draw media attention this early if it were only concerning a tour next summer or fall. It is their way of saying... "we got something cooking". That something, by this time frame, is most likely plans to record an album... otherwise there would be no reason to tease us this early. Remember the tour is next summer at the earliest and most likely a year away next fall...

Remember, take note of their history, they only give us a spotting of all of them together at a meeting, if they are working on something major. If it were only a tour next year this meeting would be far too early to prompt that. If it were about a Some Girls re-issue... there would be no need to have public meeting over it. If it were concerning a greatest hits package there would be no need for a meeting.

They were "purposefully letting us know" they have/or are planning on starting something major quite soon. That something, based on their recent comments and the earliness of this meeting, would almost certainly mean it has to be an album... Otherwise, what do you equate the openess of the meeting for. It sure as shinola wasn't one of their top secret affairs...

Ian

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Ian Billen on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 7:15pm

[quote author=Gazza link=1315572086/0#19 date=1315766845]Tall order, Ian.

2012 will see UMG release the Some Girls Deluxe AND a career-spanning retrospective. Both of those will be at least double-disc releases. That doesn't leave a lot of room for a release that not only would mean the most work but which there isn't exactly much demand for.

Mick and Keith parroting the usual party line about being a current band means nothing. The lack of new output since 1997 tells you everything you need to know. Why by this time people continue to take that at face value never ceases to amaze.

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Because every tour in the past thirty years had them in the studio and releasing brand new studio recorded product for a tour is why. Every tour had an album to coincide. The only one that didn't was the 2002-2003 Licks extravaganza... but even then they "insisted" on going into the studio and recording and releasing some new songs to prove that they are not a nostalgia act. They certainly didn't have to do that. Why waste a few weeks time effort and work when it isn't needed at all? They could of more than easily filled the gaps on four slots with other songs from their catalog already recorded and or released. The reason is they do not want to be classified as a nostalgia act. That's why. Sure they havent put out but two albums from 97 on...but they toured only three times. Two out of those three times they released a brand new studio album and the other time they insisted on recoding and releasing new stuff. Plain and simple.. They will not go the route of being a nostalgia act. They will remain The Stones until the end.

I will ask you this... you act as if their is no little to no indication they will do another album this time... Well what indication have they given us that they will not? Everything in their track record, recent comments, and this recent and quite early early and purposefully leaked band meeting lends to the fact that they most likely will...

Ian

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 7:17am

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 6:56pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 1:47pm:

Ian. They were meeting to discuss their plans for 2012. Ie, a tour. I really dont know how to spell it out for you any clearer than that. But thats what it was. If you're suggesting that they'll be announcing dates soon, then I think you'll need to hold your breath for a while, though.

They dont have 'secret meetings'. There's simply no reason to announce a band meeting to the press.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 7:27am

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 7:15pm:

Because every tour in the past thirty years had them in the studio and releasing brand new studio recorded product for a tour is why. Every tour had an album to coincide. The only one that didn't was the 2002-2003 Licks extravaganza... but even then they "insisted" on going into the studio and recording and releasing some new songs to prove that they are not a nostalgia act. They certainly didn't have to do that. Why waste a few weeks time effort and work when it isn't needed at all? They could of more than easily filled the gaps on four slots with other songs from their catalog already recorded and or released. The reason is they do not want to be classified as a nostalgia act. That's why. Sure they havent put out but two albums from 97 on...but they toured only three times. Two out of those three times they released a brand new studio album and the other time they insisted on recoding and releasing new stuff. Plain and simple.. They will not go the route of being a nostalgia act. They will remain The Stones until the end.

I will ask you this... you act as if their is no little to no indication they will do another album this time... Well what indication have they given us that they will not? Everything in their track record, recent comments, and this recent and quite early early and purposefully leaked band meeting lends to the fact that they most likely will...

Ian

The Licks tour proved they werent a nostalgia act? And this was cemented beyond reasonable doubt by tacking on four songs to 40 Licks - only one of which was played on the tour and then never again? Are you serious? What revisionist bollocks!

The Bigger Bang tour was effectively Licks Part II. The new songs were largely forgotten about within months. The live document of the tour was taken from two shows which didnt include a single song from the album they were touring behind. 40 Licks was the biggest selling Stones album for 30 years. Nostalgia is their 'future'. And with that record out of print, there's probably a market for something similar to take it's place. And its helped by the fact that UMG have done a bloody good job with promoting and selling the Exile reissue.

As for the last bit. The onus is on them to prove something. Its not on me to disprove a negative. I dont know if they'll make a new record or not. I hope they do. I'm saying that theres no pressure on them to do so from their record label, and that the same record label have two multi-disc Stones releases due for release in 2012. A studio album is a lesser priority. And it requires more work from the band for a project that they're unlikely to promote.

Can you please enlighten me how pictures of them leaving an office appears to indicate that they're about to make a new record?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Ian Billen on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 11:07am

Gazza wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 7:27am:

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 11^th, 2011 at 7:15pm:

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Your right. There is absolutely no pressure on them to make another record. However, I think it is in their agenda by thier comments about the matter and how they normally go about things. Sure, you could say nostalgia plays the major role of getting people to their shows, but not in the sense of The Bee-Gees, or even Fleetwood Mac for that matter. They insist of recording an album to go against that mind-set for them. I know ABB was not played much. Still, the did write, record, and mix it. It was a studio release. It sold some millions, and it was a damn solid album. So whether they play it alot or don't is not the point. The point is they invest their time and effort in making them almost every single time. I feel this time will be the same.

Ian

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 11:44am

Well, like you,Ian, I'm a fan of their last record. I do genuinely believe they put a lot of effort into it and wanted to BELIEVE that they could go on the road, play several songs from it and make a record that would 'last'. It even got their best reviews in 25 years.

The main problem with putting that plan into action is that the people who buy Stones tickets are generally older fans (or more often 'box tickers' who want to say theyve 'seen' a legendary act) - they're generally not interested in what the Stones are doing in the 21st century. After a few shows, that becomes more and more obvious to the band and they tailor the show accordingly and resort to 'pandering' instead of 'promoting'.

They missed a HUGE opportunity on the last tour by not including a copy of the new album with each ticket purchase. The ticket buyer would have had NO excuse.

Its a vicious circle. If you're going to ask people to pay $500 for a ticket then by the very nature of that demand, you're going to get an older audience. And older audiences want nostalgia. And for $500 they expect to get it. So, not only do they exclude a sizeable percentage of a potential audience, but they allow the audience they DO get to dictate the type of show that they're going to play. The days of going out and hitting the audience up the face with 6 or 7 new songs in a row whether-they-like-it-or-not á la 1978 are long gone.

Different era. Different audience. Different band. Different mindset.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by gotdablouse on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 11:48am

Yep, that says it all, they chose the mega-money versus the artistic integrity, but then who hasn't...apart from Robert Plant and...Bill Wyman :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 1:41pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

Gazza,considering the age of Rolling Stones fans these days. Box tickers can mean several different things. :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe CD Coming In November
Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:58pm

From Mick's SH interview in Spinner:

What do you have planned with the Stones right now?
I just finished off doing all the outtakes for the 'Some Girls' album we're releasing at Thanksgiving. We did 'Exile,' we did a lot of different takes, a lot of different cuts that hadn't come out before, so we're doing the similar kind of thing with 'Some Girls,' so I've just been doing them because a lot of them weren't complete, so I had to complete them, and then we're gonna mix those and put them out for Thanksgiving.
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Gonna have much to be thankful for in November...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Pdog on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 4:47pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

it's funny you mention that... when I took my Dad to the Philly show, I gave him a copy of Bigger Bang... I'm a marketing genius... and I spent the last few years doing houe chores and shit like that... what the fuck do the pay these assholes at labels and tour promoters to do... waste of money IMO... I could do the same work quicker and cheaper and get better results.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe CD Coming In November
Post by Pdog on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 4:49pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:58pm:

I got bigger in Texas... this news has added more length to My Stone Bone!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe CD Coming In November
Post by Gazza on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 5:05pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:58pm:

Presumably that interview is a few weeks old as well....according to carlostones on IORR (who I believe has links to UMG in Brazil), the Some Girls deluxe isn't likely to come out until 2012.

Presumably it's early in 2012.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe CD Coming In November
Post by Paranoid Android on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 7:04pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 2:58pm:

I think Mick as well as the rest of the Stones machine might be a bit too "English" to make THANKSGIVING a point of release...there is too much stress on it...as if the ROW would know when that is...the quote would be more credible if he had said "for the holidays" or for an "early winter/late fall" release...IMO

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Ian Billen on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 8:54pm

Everyone is spinning the conversation...

I never said that there was a great demand for a new Stones album. I never said their record label wouldn't be more focused on their back catalog. I never said nostalgia wasn't a big part of their act.

*All I am saying is I think they will record and release an album for this tour based on my aforementioned reasons- (nothing more).

I should of figured (although I don't understand it..) that I would once again be the "lone-wolf" in thinking that was most likely in the cards for them again this time out. Just look at their track record... Why would anyone not think they most likely will release an album being as they almost always do for a major tour.

Ian

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 10:12pm

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 8:54pm:

Beacuse their hasn't been one hint of a sniff that they plan to record anything new. Yes,Mick is very careful with his words. But again. Not even a hint of a whiff from him that the Stones might try and do a complete new record. Never mind the mountain of evidence Gazza has presented to you that they have no plans to do a completely new album...........But hey no problem being a Lone WOlf Ian. Unless your a lone wolf who plans to blow up buildings then their might be a problem. :pukey

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by Gazza on Sep 13^th, 2011 at 6:32am

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 12^th, 2011 at 8:54pm:

I should of figured (although I don't understand it..) that I would once again be the "lone-wolf" in thinking that was most likely in the cards for them again this time out. Just look at their track record... Why would anyone not think they most likely will release an album being as they almost always do for a major tour.

Ian

almost always? If youre going back to the 80s and 90s when they still thought of themselves as a 'current' band then fair enough. Back then bands toured to promote a record, as the record was where the money was.

The Rolling Stones - more so in the 21st century - release a record as an 'excuse' to tour. The revenue from selling 2 million albums is miniscule when you compare it to grossing half a billion dollars from a tour.

However, to think that they still seem themselves as a 'current' act based on the fact that theyve recorded one full album, released only 22 songs in total and have spent about 6 weeks together as a four piece in recording studios since summer 1997 and that their recent release history has been geared towards their back catalogue - well, then, I'd respectfully suggest you're merely kidding no one but yourself.

The last ten years and the last two tours have been geared towards nostalgia. They're a different band with a different modus operandi post- Licks. Quite how anyone can't grasp that baffles me. It doesnt bother me that much - it is what it is.

If they make a new record, great. But I hope you're not too disappointed when they end up playing very little from it.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming Soon
Post by gotdablouse on Sep 13^th, 2011 at 6:50am

Yep, again, that says it all.

I don't see them putting out a new album, too much work, too little reward. Besides it would only dilute their recording legacy even more, I mean ABB was a decent album and they certainly did the best they could but it went nowhere, at least nowhere big. Why bother?

At this point, their energy, at least Mick's, is probably best spent on enhancing their best periods, like they did for Exile and now for SG, not sure what's next though. I for one wouldn't mind seeing a B2B deluxe version, especially with the wealth of unreleased songs according to Karnach. Keith could also resurrect his "untampered" version of MAWGJuiced.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe CD Coming In November
Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:01am

SOME GIRLS TO BE RELEASED THIS NOVEMBER

The Rolling Stones are pleased to announce the release on November 21, 2011 of the re-mastered, expanded, Super-Deluxe, Deluxe and Digital editions of Some Girls, the groundbreaking album which introduced the music of the Rolling Stones to a whole new generation of fans.

Justly considered one of the finest works by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Ronnie Wood, Some Girls topped the US charts over three decades ago and remains the best selling album of their storied career. This new package will include some undiscovered gems that include tracks that have recently been unearthed from the Rolling Stones vaults by producer Don Was. Further details of the tracks will be unveiled at a later date.
Some Girls is the Rolling Stones' most direct and diverse collection of material, from Mick Jagger's irresistible falsetto on the four-on-the-floor filler Miss You, their eighth US number one, to the country-flavoured Far Away Eyes via the Chuck Berry meets punk snarl of Respectable. And let's not forget the sensuous, Beast Of Burden, one of Keith Richards’ finest tunes, which reached number 8 on the US singles chart, the garage rock of Shattered, the album's third US Top 40 entry, and the soulful swagger of the group's version of The Temptations' Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me), another timeless offering in their canon of classic Stones Motown covers.

Following the critical praise and commercial success afforded the re-mastered, expanded editions of Exile On Main Street, which matched the chart performance of the epochal 1972 album, and returned the Rolling Stones to their rightful place at the top of the British charts in 2010, the extensive reissue of Some Girls constitutes the next step in the band's ongoing relationship with Universal Music Group. This started in April 2008 with Shine A Light, the soundtrack from the stunning concert film directed by Martin Scorsese, and has encompassed the reissues of the Rolling Stones re-mastered, post-1971 studio albums, several live albums and classic compilations, and the exhaustive box-set Singles 1971-2006 earlier this year.
Some Girls holds a special place in the history of the Rolling Stones and demonstrates why they remain one of the most thrilling and influential bands of all time. The 1978 album features a Keith Richards' classic Before They Make Me Run, a signature song he stills performs defiantly to this day. Some Girls documented Mick Jagger's love of 70’s funk reflected in Miss You, the dance track that wrongfooted many people, made the club and black charts, and made it okay for other mainstream acts at the time to ‘go disco’.

The 1978 album courted controversy because of Jagger's tongue-in-cheek lyrics on the title track, on Miss You and on Respectable, perceived as a retort to the punk and new wave groups who had borrowed so much attitude and copped so many anti-establishment moves from the Rolling Stones. Ironically, the furore around the elaborate Some Girls package, designed by Peter Corriston and featuring the band members in drag – a nod in the direction of the picture on their 1966 single Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? – and likenesses of Lucille Ball, Farrah Fawcett, Raquel Welch, Judy Garland and Marilyn Monroe that hadn't been legally cleared, necessitating a swift withdrawal and rethink.

Some Girls demonstrated the distinctive and definitive riffing from Keith Richards, with its abundance of unstoppable licks and majestic power chords driving the band into its brand new musical direction. This album not only defined him and his playing, but also defined a new era for the Rolling Stones, which Richards since described as a ‘sense of renewal’. Some Girls marks the only other time since recording Satisfaction where Richards used an effects pedal to ‘elevate’ the sound.

The album cemented the position of guitarist Ronnie Wood, who had joined in 1975, and added his trademark slide and pedal steel playing to several of the album's most memorable tracks, including When The Whip Comes Down and Shattered. He also co-wrote the Shattered B-side Everything Is Turning To Gold. Some Girls also marked a move to the Pathé Marconi Studios in Paris for the Glimmer Twins production team of Jagger and Richards. These factors helped what is arguably the group's most focused and dynamic album, driven by the sans pareil rhythm section of drummer Charlie Watts and bassist Bill Wyman. Some Girls featured fewer guest musicians than any Rolling Stones albums since 1971, but the contributions keyboard-player Ian McLagan, Wood's bandmate in The Faces, saxophone-player Mel Collins, and harmonica-player Sugar Blue – discovered busking on the Paris métro – made Miss You in particular sound brighter than ever.

Amongst many eagerly-awaited extras, the Super-Deluxe edition of Some Girls will include a stunning, previously unseen Helmut Newton photo session from 1978, an essay by esteemed author and journalist Anthony DeCurtis putting the album in its cultural context, and a 7” single of Beast Of Burden/When The Whip Comes Down in its banned sleeve.

Thirty-three years on from its original release, the re-mastered, expanded, Super-Deluxe, Deluxe and Digital editions of Some Girls show why the 1978 album has often been hailed as the equal of Exile On Main Street. Some Girls is both a time capsule and a timeless listen. It features the band at their tightest and toughest, at their most vibrant and vital. It's an all-killer, no-filler, must-have album. It still packs a punch.

SOME GIRLS - now bigger, brighter and better than ever.

rollingstones.com

Reissue and movie...a bountiful Stonesgiving.

http://goo.gl/GKVMy

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Post by Lazy Bones on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:57am

Well THAT just made my day!

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Post by Gazza on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

My nipples have just sat up like rugby studs....

I also see three compact discs. Did I miss something?

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Post by rogerriffin on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:34pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

My nipples have just sat up like rugby studs....

I also see three compact discs. Did I miss something?

1. Some Girls
2. Some Girls Outtakes
3. Live in Texas DVD

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Post by CS on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:38pm

I don't think "Live in Texas" will be the third CD, it must be something like "The Making of Some Girls", "Live in Texas" is being released separately

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Post by rogerriffin on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:45pm

CS wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:38pm:

I don't think "Live in Texas" will be the third CD, it must be something like "The Making of Some Girls", "Live in Texas" is being released separately

have reason Cocksucker, maybe a little documentary and SNL show!

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Post by Gazza on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 1:04pm

rogerriffin wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:34pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

My nipples have just sat up like rugby studs....

I also see three compact discs. Did I miss something?

1. Some Girls
2. Some Girls Outtakes
3. Live in Texas DVD

The DVD being the third disc would render the separate 'Live in Texas' DVD obsolete. Plus, there'd have to be a blu-ray alternative for the 3rd disc.

Could be the audio CD of the Fort Worth show that will be on the deluxe Live In Texas blu ray/DVD I suppose.

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Post by Nellcote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 2:41pm

Audio of the show sounds right.
2nd 2x Wicked Pissah of the week, I'm exhausted!

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

Ft. Worth CD negs sales of the 'Live In Texas' Blu-ray/DVD +.

SNL footage would be a nice lagniappe...

http://goo.gl/7WGCa

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Post by AngieBlue on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 2:54pm

THAT made my day!
And if they include the SNL appearance that would be double bonus. I can relive the instant I found out about the Stones.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 4:43pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

My nipples have just sat up like rugby studs....

I also see three compact discs. Did I miss something?

that pic is the super deluxe... is see the 45 single of BoB... so, there's def. 3 cd's/dvd's? maybe super dlx will have the videos? who knows... or audio of some more stuff, they have said, more will be told later... with exile we had those tracks we knew of they added vocals, then the tracks we had no idea existed... who knows, what they have, we don't know about, making our speculation fun, but so random... if they cram alot onto the super dlx, i will get it... as long the the price tag isn't unreasonable... the real bummer is... there's no vinly LP in the super dlx... this is where they drop the ball... a great vinyl mastering, of audiophile standards, is what the super needs... nice to see the other stuff...

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 5:28pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:01am:

This new package will include some undiscovered gems that include tracks that have recently been unearthed from the Rolling Stones vaults by producer Don Was. Further details of the tracks will be unveiled at a later date

I wonder if they'll use stuff that hadn't leaked like they did for Exile? Given the amount of unreleased stuff that became available over the years (upon release and then in 1993 when the EMI Boulogne studios got pulled down...) it seems unlikely, but one can always hope!

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Post by Trey Krimsin on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 7:41pm

Any chance the original cover may be used for the packaging for this re-release? I bet slim to none.

I wonder what songs will be used for the bonus disc. There was a shitload of songs recorded during that period. I'm sure there are some songs that we have never heard and may be used for this re-release. The Deluxe edition is a definite buy for an early Christmas present. The Super Deluxe? Only if I've been a reeeeaaaallllyyy good boy.

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Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 7:52pm

I'd like to see vinyl as well. I'll just have to stick to my very very very clean originals. I've been spinning it a lot this year.

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Post by Ian Billen on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:11pm

If you all recall, we knew Keith was "working" in the studio not long ago and we didn't know what he was doing there or with whom it was concerning. We never heard anything more of it. Sounds like Jagger just finished his work on the Some Girls new ones. The vocals are usually last when doing over-dubs. It is most likely t Keith was working on some guitar parts or something on the new tracks for this special Some Girls re-release when he was in the studio a short while ago and we couldn't couldn't figure out what he was working on. Naturally, I have no clue... still it's a theory that makes sense for right now.

Note: As well, Don Was is again taking care of this project. So ... "if" The Stones "do" decide to record anything new for a studio release there is a good chance it will be Don Was once again working on it with them. I'm not saying thats happening right now. I'm just saying if they do anything new studio wise (which IMHO they will) it will most likely be him producing it with them again <just sayin>

Ian

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Post by Gazza on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:17am

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:11pm:

he was working with Pierre de Beauport in a studio in New York earlier this year. I think it was reported at the time (dont know how reliably) that it was Winos-related and that there would be some solo work. People assumed this meant a solo album, which isnt necessarily the same thing.

He did say during the summer when asked about Mick that they'd been going through some Some Girls tapes. Wouldnt surprise me if he'd added a few parts here and there.

Unless the Stones start putting out archive releases which consist of alternate versions of released songs, I think a lot of people hoping for a treasure trove from their studio vaults are going to have to be content with the concept of any releases featuring studio outtakes needing some latter day vocal overdubs. I know that bootlegs only give you a snapshot of what are often very lengthy recording sessions, but its quite evident from whats out there that finishing lyrics and vocals (on Jagger/Richards songs anyway) tend to be something thats done late on in the proceedings. They might talk about recording 30-40 songs for an album, but its pretty obvious that about half of those songs get discarded while they're pretty embryonic lyrically and they dont tend to waste much studio time on songs that arent going to end up being shortlisted.

They're not going to put out box sets of songs which have 'scratch' vocals and half finished lyrics (the occasional one like Keith's nonsense lyrics on 'Soul Survivor' can get through as a bit of a curio) because while the whole concept behind these releases are geared towards diehards and collectors, theyre not going to sell in any quantities without the mainstream record buyer being interested as well.

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:33am

Keith himself hinted at a Winos project during his Jimmy Fallon appearance. He said his recent recording was "probably" for the Winos - "it's starting to blossom."

In the Mayo interview Mick said Keith's "gonna do one thing" for 'Some Girls'. Ronnie did one overdub, too.

Sounds like the bulk of the new work is Mick's vocals...

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Post by Some Guy on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:43am

pouring old wine into new wineskins, no?

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Post by gimmekeef on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 8:01am

Anyone who has the Girls Pills and Powders 5 disc boot likely has everything that will appear on the reduxe. Maybe Mick does a new vocal replacing Claudine?....hmmmmm Lindsay's back in jail again????...lol

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 8:26am

Well like I wrote yesterday, it's anyone's guess really, look at what they found for Exile, several tracks had never been leaked (Plundering, River, Sophia Loren) from the top of my head. For SG it might be different though as the 1993 "Paris Results" boots were most likely sourced from tapes "recovered" when EMI Boulogne was pulled down, so they may not have anything more in store.

Even using what's been leaked there's enough material to make a terrific "alternate" album, Misty Roads, Yellow Cab, Fiji Jim, Everlasting, Dancing Girls, etc...

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Post by Some Guy on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 8:29am

I love that I Need You song, redone properly it will be a number one smash.

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 8:37am

Yes, like it very much too, the melody is interesting Keith's singing is pretty good on that one...of course Mick will have had to rerecord the chorus/bridge since he's shouting "I want to f... you too much" !

Actually I'm going to have to listen to all that good stuff again, Paris Results here I come ;-)

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Post by Ian Billen on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 11:09pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 7:17am:

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 11:11pm:

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Ohhhh Oh well then, maybe not. Still, I am having a hard time believing Keith is doing Wino's stuff again. I have an odd question? Could Keith even play some live shows with The Wino's again at this point? Meaning... could he handle it up there all on his own these days? Curious? What is your opinion?

Ian

he was working with Pierre de Beauport in a studio in New York earlier this year. I think it was reported at the time (dont know how reliably) that it was Winos-related and that there would be some solo work. People assumed this meant a solo album, which isnt necessarily the same thing.

He did say during the summer when asked about Mick that they'd been going through some Some Girls tapes. Wouldnt surprise me if he'd added a few parts here and there.

Unless the Stones start putting out archive releases which consist of alternate versions of released songs, I think a lot of people hoping for a treasure trove from their studio vaults are going to have to be content with the concept of any releases featuring studio outtakes needing some latter day vocal overdubs. I know that bootlegs only give you a snapshot of what are often very lengthy recording sessions, but its quite evident from whats out there that finishing lyrics and vocals (on Jagger/Richards songs anyway) tend to be something thats done late on in the proceedings. They might talk about recording 30-40 songs for an album, but its pretty obvious that about half of those songs get discarded while they're pretty embryonic lyrically and they dont tend to waste much studio time on songs that arent going to end up being shortlisted.

They're not going to put out box sets of songs which have 'scratch' vocals and half finished lyrics (the occasional one like Keith's nonsense lyrics on 'Soul Survivor' can get through as a bit of a curio) because while the whole concept behind these releases are geared towards diehards and collectors, theyre not going to sell in any quantities without the mainstream record buyer being interested as well.

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Ohhhh Oh well then, maybe not. Still, I am having a hard time believing Keith is doing Wino's stuff again. I have an odd question? Could Keith even play some live shows with The Wino's again at this point? Meaning, if they did record...could he pull off some live shows by himself anymore? And not to say that a group of people NEED to tour or do live shows simply because they recorded something or want to release something because they don't. All I am wondering is could he handle it up there all on his own these days fronting The Wino's for a few shows if it were proposed to him or if the task was at hand? Curious? What is your opinion?

Ian

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Post by corgi37 on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 8:44am

Looks a great package. But would they be able to release the SNL footage? Do they own the rights?

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am

Rights might not be that difficult, since NBC owns UMG.
SNL and the 'Faraway Eyes', 'Miss You' and 'Respectable' promos would be nice stuff for the DVD.

Planet Rock posted info on the formats:

* Standard CD album
* Deluxe 2CD album in 8 panel digipack w/ 28 page booklet
* Single 12" heavyweight vinyl
* Super Deluxe Box Set including 2CD, DVD, hardback book, Helmut Newton print, 5 postcard set, 7" Beast Of Burden/When The Whip Comes Down vinyl, poster

The "banned" sleeve:

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Post by Gazza on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 15^th, 2011 at 11:09pm:

Ohhhh Oh well then, maybe not. Still, I am having a hard time believing Keith is doing Wino's stuff again. I have an odd question? Could Keith even play some live shows with The Wino's again at this point? Meaning, if they did record...could he pull off some live shows by himself anymore? And not to say that a group of people NEED to tour or do live shows simply because they recorded something or want to release something because they don't. All I am wondering is could he handle it up there all on his own these days fronting The Wino's for a few shows if it were proposed to him or if the task was at hand? Curious? What is your opinion?

Ian

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Post by Ian Billen on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 9:15pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

[quote author=Ian Billen link=1315572086/50#61 date=1316146149] Ohhhh Oh well then, maybe not. Still, I am having a hard time believing Keith is doing Wino's stuff again. I have an odd question? Could Keith even play some live shows with The Wino's again at this point? Meaning, if they did record...could he pull off some live shows by himself anymore? And not to say that a group of people NEED to tour or do live shows simply because they recorded something or want to release something because they don't. All I am wondering is could he handle it up there all on his own these days fronting The Wino's for a few shows if it were proposed to him or if the task was at hand? Curious? What is your opinion?

Ian

I'm not overly convinced that he was working on a solo record either. Would make no sense as he's barely even written anything for the STONES in the last decade. Its not as if he has a huge backlog of spare songs. Maybe it was a bit of a bluff to disguise the fact he was doing something for Some Girls or maybe he was doing a COUPLE of Winos songs for a download single or something minor like that. He certainly wasnt working for long enough to make an album.

As he's barely been on a concert stage for ten minutes in the last four years, we can only speculate on his ability to perform. One thing's for sure - four years ago, he could NOT have fronted a band of his own as he was pretty much unable to sing and play guitar at the same time (probably as a result of the medication he was on post-Fiji).

Of course, he may very well be able to do so again now.

Keith hasnt exactly shown much interest in performing outside of the Stones tour bubble now for almost two decades. There have been no Winos shows since early 1993. I doubt they'll play live again as long as there's a future for the Stones as a live act.

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He started to have difficulty playing and singing at the same time in 93-94. I distinctively remember noticing it then.. although it was in intervals. In 94 you could see it but just at times. In 97 it happened more often. In 2002 it stabilized but by 2005 it was quite evident. It has got progressively worse little by little. The last tour it was much more evident than ever before however, the problem didn't originate with the medication ...though the injury, or medication may of contributed to this ongoing issue a bit (verdict is still out for me on that one...because it has been worsening each tour since anyway, even though it seems after the injury things got even more apparent)

- Your theory about a Winos release is possible... I agree that there is no way he was there long enough to do an album. Only time will tell what it was in reality (or maybe not...some times we never find out what was taking place or hear anything more...).

Ian

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Post by andrews27 on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 12:10am

I don't want 2011 vocals on Some Girls.

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Post by corgi37 on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 6:31am

I've got a bootleg cd called "Static in the attic". It's got stuff from 74, 78 & 79. I got another one, but cant bloody find it. So i am not sure if the following is from 78. One is Keith singing "Catcher's mitt" - though on the cd it aint called that. The cd i cant locate had a fantastic song called something like 'flying in the face of love" or something. Real cool rocker. Damn i want to hear that song right now!

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Post by Pdog on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 8:21am

with all the bootleg stuff we know of... with all the stuff from those sessions we know were done, and album ready, as far as final mix stage... then figure, we've only heard maybe half of those sessions on boots... I have to think, it's going to be bitter sweet... since there will only be about 8 extra tracks. From what I know, they had dozens ready to go, and dozens more close to ready to go... and how many of those, are what we've actually heard or not, is the question for me...there was so much in studio working stuff going on of song after song being developed and discarded...

I'm sure Jagger is going over some vocals, but probsbly not like on Exile. They had alot more finished and ready for SG. The only way I see him doing songs over again, is if the song is loved by him, and the vocals were really crappy or lyrics incomplete... so, maybe one tune, I hope... I depends on how polished they want it.

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 8:43am

And you can even knock one of the great vocal tracks we know as he said in one of the SH intervews that he's done vocals for a blues instrumental and they were a minority in what we know of : "Biscuit Blues", "Slow Blues", "Armpit Blues". Now some could also be from the ER sessions as the great OBR released mixed both.

@corgi37 - sorry, have no idea what songs you're referring to!

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 9:45am

Shit! same as Exile no double LP :whydontcha :nooslajaleisk :thatwassmart :wtf1 :aimama

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Post by Gazza on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 11:00am

This is what's out there, according to my own records. Taken from notes I made a couple of years ago and with some recent corrections.

Not suggesting its perfect or definitive, but it should give you all a good idea. The sources I've relied on for sessiongraphies are mostly Nico Zentgraf's 'The Complete Works' (www.nzentgraf.de) and Felix Aeppli's 'Ultimate Guide' - http://aeppli.ch/tug.htm

Session Title "Some Girls" recording session, #1
Recording dates 10.10.77 - 25.11.77 and 5-21.12.77
Studio EMI Pathe-Marconi Studios, Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris, France

Released Songs
Title Length Version Released On/Date Notes
Beast Of Burden 5:20 1 “Some Girls” 6/78 – 8-track version Extended version with some extra lyrics and extended outro. Available on bootleg “More Sucking In The '70's”
Beast Of Burden 4:24 2 "Some Girls" 6/78 Edited version of V1
Beast Of Burden 3:29 3 7' single, 9/78 (US) Edited version of V1, also used on various compilation albums from 1981 onwards
Everything Is Turning To Gold 4:06 US B-side, 11/78 Subsequently released on "Sucking In The 70's" (1981)
Far Away Eyes 4:24 "Some Girls" 6/78 may have been completed at 1978 Paris session
Far Away Eyes 7' single 6/78 Edited version of V1
Just My Imagination 4:38 "Some Girls" 6/78
Lies 3:12 "Some Girls" 6/78 may have been completed at 1978 Paris session
Miss You 8:36 1 12' single, 6/78 Later released on “Flashpoint + Collectibles” (1991)
Miss You 4:48 2 "Some Girls" 6/78 Edited version of V1
Miss You 3:35 3 7' single 6/78 Edited version of V1. Later released on 'Jump Back' (1993) and 'Forty Licks' (2002) compilations
Miss You 5:44 4 “Some Girls” 6/78 – 8-track version Edited version of V1. Available on bootleg “More Sucking In The '70's”
Miss You (Dr Dre Remix) 3:39 5 “Austin Powers – Goldmember” 7/02 Dr Dre remix, edited from V1. Uses some dialogue by Mick from alternate versions
Miss You 7:33 6 “Rarities 1971-2003” 11/05 Edited version of V1
Respectable 3:08 "Some Girls" 6/78
Shattered 3:47 1 "Some Girls" 6/78
Shattered 2:43 2 “Some Girls” 6/78 – 8-track version Edited version of V1 (shorter solo and outro). Available on promo single and on bootleg “More Sucking In The '70's”
Some Girls 4:37 "Some Girls" 6/78 may have been completed at 1978 Paris session
When The Whip Comes Down 4:21 "Some Girls" 6/78

Circulating Alternate takes

Title Length Version Available On Notes
Beast of Burden 5:07 1 Some Girls Made Many Girls Falsetto vocal. Some lyric changes. No backing vocals (chorus is without vocals). Acoustic guitar more prominent.
Beast of Burden 5:34 2 Girls, Pills and Powders Same take as above, but acoustic guitar less prominent in mix. Longer fade out, which includes some 'tremelo' sounding guitar effects before final fade
Everything Is Turning To Gold 9:48 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Long version (9:48)
Everything Is Turning To Gold 4:28 2 Girls, Pills and Powders Extended version of released take.
Far Away Eyes 4:40 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 More prominent piano. Early, less committed vocal by Mick. No backing vocals. Mick says "whaddya think, Woody" before pedal steel solo
Far Away Eyes 5:18 2 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Longer piano and pedal steel intros. Same vocal as released version but longer and with different pedal steel solo
Hang Fire 6:20 1 Tattoo Too First longer early version, with count-in
Hang Fire 6:09 2 Tattoo Too Second longer early version, without count-in
Just My Imagination 1 with organ
Just My Imagination 2 Some Other Girls/Genius Is Pain (LP) this may be same as take 1. Features lyrics “I look THROUGH my window”
Just My Imagination 6:43 3 Girls, Pills and Powders Extended version of released take (6:43). Sounds like a different mix. Longer instrumental break and fade out. In the final minute, the tempo is briefly slowed down slightly as if they're going to play the bridge again, but then speeds up again before the final fade out
Lies 4:56 1 Girls, Pills and Powders Early take, with dummy lyrics (most lines start with the word 'Why') (4:56)
Lies 2 Paris Outtakes Shorter than V1
Lies 3:50 3 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Extended version of released take, with extra lyrics 3:50

Miss You 11:40 1 All Mixed Up very long version (11:40) with early vocals
Miss You 7:22 2 Some Girls Made Many Girls Bridge of song has different mix. No sax or harmonica.(7:22)
Miss You 8:46 3 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Extended version of #3 with sax and harmonica added. (8:46)
Respectable 3:51 1 Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 1 '1-2-3-4-motherfucker' count in by Mick, and rough lyrics. Mick calls out chord changes & instructions for solos throughout.
Respectable 2 does this exist?
Respectable 3:50 3 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Extended version of released take minus overdubs and edits. An extra "get out of my life.." line at end of guitar solo and also before 2nd solo. Same lead vocal but 2nd guitar more prominent & no backing vocals (or else mixed very low) Solos at the end quite different.
Shattered 3:39 1 Girls, Pills and Powders Instrumental
Shattered 3:11 2 Girls, Pills and Powders Instrumental
Some Girls 6:24 Some Girls Made Many Girls Extended and remixed version of released take, with more harmonica and spoken vocals at end (6:24)
When The Whip Comes Down 9:48 1 Girls, Pills and Powders Dummy lyrics (mostly off mike) in verses. (9:48)
When The Whip Comes Down 2 Spend It So Fast (LP) Early version, with back up vocals & different lyrics
When The Whip Comes Down 6:16 3 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Same take as released version, but longer and with Mick's vocal further down in the mix. Contains an offmike count-in, an extra verse ('Mr Rockefeller', etc), longer solos in the middle and in the 2nd half of the song, and a few other vocal asides from Mick which were later edited out (6:14)
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Circulating Outtakes
Title Length Version Available On Notes
A Different Kind 6:03 Girls, Pills and Powders Medium-paced country flavoured track with prominent pedal steel (& several long solos). Guide vocal by Mick
Claudine 7:33 1 Made In The Shade 1978 Slow and long version with unfinished lyrics
Everlasting Is My Love 4:02 1 Girls, Pills and Powders "Non falsetto" vocal
Jah Wonderful
Golden Caddy 3:15 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Instrumental. May be an early version of Brown Leaves
Golden Caddy 1:57 2 Place Pigalle Vol. 5/6 Instrumental. May be an early version of Brown Leaves
Love You Too Much 4:20 1 Girls, Pills and Powders "Punk-style" rough vocal. Sounds like tape is a bit fast
Love You Too Much 2:32 2 Girls, Pills and Powders Musically more developed, but still with rough (almost drunken!) vocals. Fades out quite quickly. Listed as v3 on G,P & P
Muck Spreading Dub 3:16 Paris Results riff-driven instrumental
Munich Hilton #2 11:56 1 Girls, Pills and Powders Instrumental. This version has some percussion after a couple of mins (tom toms?). Version on Paris Outtakes Vol1 is shorter (10:37) (10:16 on 'Claudine accidents') but seems to be faster - ie, at right speed. Zentgraf lists 2 takes from Paris (1 with more instruments), Aeppli only 1

Unverified songs (not in circulation)
Covered In Bruises possibly an early version of Ronnie's solo song '1234' as it mentions this title a lot in the chorus
Infekshun later re-recorded for Ronnie's 'Gimme Some Neck' album
Once You Start Early version of "Start Me Up"

Session Title "Some Girls" recording session, #2
Recording dates 5.1.78 - 2.3.78
Studio EMI Pathe-Marconi Studios, Boulogne-Billancourt, Paris, France

Released Songs
Title Length Version Released On/Date Notes
Before They Make Me Run 3:25 1 "Some Girls" 6/78
Before They Make Me Run 2 US 7' promo single, 6/78 Also available on bootleg LPs “Claudine”, “Not Guilty” etc
So Young “Out of Tears” CD single, 10/94 Basic track. Mick Jagger re-did the vocal in early 1994
Start Me Up 3:33 “Tattoo You” 8/81 Basic track. Chris Kimsey says in an interview it was recorded 24 hours after 'Miss You', which, if he's right, would date it as being from the Oct-Dec 1977 session

Circulating Alternate takes

Title Length Version Available On Notes
Before They Make Me Run 4:30 1 Some Girls Made Many Girls Long fade-out. Early vocal, some slight lyric changes. No backing vocals
Before They Make Me Run 2 Twilight Zone Extended version of promo single
Black Limousine 2:14 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Instrumental. Also known as 'Broken Head Blues'. Fades out quickly. Is there a longer edit?
Black Limousine 4:11 2 Tattoo Too With count-in. early lyrics. Musically close to released version. Lyrics start with “you ride around babe/ride around in your limousine”
Black Limousine 3:17 3 Tattoo Too Intro fades in & sounds close to released version. Rough lyrics, which start with “you used to ride/used to ride/ in your long black limousine/and I was scared...”
So Young 2:58 Paris Results Rough, unfinished lyrics
Start Me Up 4:04 1 In The Eighties Early lyrics. Vocals in verses only (choruses are instrumental) Musically similar to released version
Start Me Up 3:41 2 Girls, Pills and Powders Close to the finished version (this may even have been used as a backing track), only a bit less polished. All rhythm guitars at this stage, though – there's no lead gtr. Verses still have rough lyrics, but the chrous and backing vocals are more developed
Summer Romance 5:21 1 The Emotional Rescue Sessions Different intro to released version. Early lyrics. Jagger's vocals off-mike.
Summer Romance 4:35 2 The Emotional Rescue Sessions Count-in, and different intro to released version. Early lyrics. More like V1 than later takes so I think this is a Some Girls outtake

Circulating Outtakes
Title Length Version Available On Notes
After Hours 5:00 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 Piano and harmonica-dominated slow jazz/blues instrumental. Also known as 'Slow Blues'.
Armpit Blues 2:35 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 Slow blues instrumental, with lots of harmonica as well as guitar and piano solos (2:35)
Broken Toe 1:55 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 riff driven instrumental, with harmonica. Fades out early
Brown Leaves 2:46 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Instrumental version of "Dancing Girls" (2:46) may come from '79
Brown Leaves 6:13 2 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Longer version of above (6:13), slightly more reggae tinged
Claudine 3:37 2 Static In The Attic Rockabilly version, full-length
Claudine 3:04 3 Static In The Attic Edited version of V2. Probably edited for release before being withdrawn due to the risk of litigation over potentially libellous lyrics
Disco Music 5:34 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Unfinished lyrics, with Mick repeating the same chorus over and over in a falsetto
Do You Get Enough? 5:18 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 Calypso-flavoured track with almost complete lyrics and prominent acoustic gtr lick. Sometimes erroneously titled "Lucky In Love" (although thats what Mick appears to be singing). 5:24, on GP & P
Do You Think I Really Care? 6:12 1 Paris Outtakes Vol. II Pedal steel version. 6:12.
Do You Think I Really Care? 6:15 2 Paris Results Different mix of V1, but with less pedal steel and more guitar
Everlasting Is My Love 3:44 2 Girls, Pills and Powders No count-in. Slide guitar version. 3:44 on G,P& P
Everlasting Is My Love 5:02 3 Girls, Pills and Powders Count-in and falsetto vocal in chorus . Prominent acoustic gtr
Fiji Jim #1 4:02 1 Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 1 Acoustic guitar more prominent in this version
Fiji Jim #2 3:55 2 Gals, Gags & Pin Ups As V1 but with more electric guitar right from the opening notes
Golden Caddy #1 1:54 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Instrumental. (1:54)
Golden Caddy #2 3:05 2 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 instrumental. (3:05)
Golden Caddy 6:13 3 Girls, Pills and Powders Instrumental. May not be 'Golden caddy' ? Sounds diff to versions 1 & 2
I Need You 3:32 Girls, Pills and Powders Main vocal by Keith, with backing and some lead vocals by Mick
It's A Lie 4:41 1 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Starts with count-in and drum roll. Bluesy rocker with rough vocals and great hamronica by Sugar Blue Also on G,P&P as V2.
It's A Lie 5:21 2 **not circulated on bootleg LP/CD ** Lyrics still unfinished, but musically more developed than earlier take
It's All Wrong 3:36 Place Pigalle Vol. 4 fast punk style song with unfinished lyrics
It Won't Be Long 1 Soul Survivor (LP) Early rough version, Keith on vocals and (probably) piano
Light Up 5:02 Fast Talking Medium paced instrumental, with pedal steel
Love You Too Much 3:42 3 Some Girls Made Many Girls Instrumental version, with acoustic guitar high in mix. Check against other versions (listed as V3 on Girls, pills etc – 3:42)
Love You Too Much 4:08 4 Girls, Pills and Powders Almost a finished track. Lyrics much more complete. Keith duets on chorus and prominent steel guitar
Never Let Her Go 4:51 Better Results Slightly reggae-tinged track with distorted guitar and electric piano. Some guide vocals by Mick. Listed twice on Girls, pills and powders (this title + 'Someone know'. Seems to be the same take))
Never Make You Cry #1 3:56 1 Girls, Pills and Powders Guide vocals. Maybe as v3? This track is doubtful
Never Make You Cry #2 4:46 2 Place Pigalle Vol. 4 Mick announcing chord changes (more electric piano noticeable in last minute)
Never Make You Cry #3 3:58 3 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Electric piano more prominent through more of the track than above version (3:58)
No Spare Parts 6:11 Girls, Pills and Powders Country song with prominent electric piano. Mick sings in his faux-Southern accent. Could have been releasable with a bit of work on the lyrics and a more polished vocal.
Not The Way To Go #1 7:04 1 **not circulated on bootleg LP/CD ** Instrumental listed by Zentgraf but not by Aeppli. Exists but not on a bootleg CD. Two later takes (with guide vocals) were cut at RCA Studios, Hollywood, August 1978 so it's possible that this song may come from that session.
Petrol 3:47 Place Pigalle Vol. 4 Mick vocal demo with Stu on piano. Also known as 'Petrol Gang'
Red Eyes 3:57 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 aka "When You're Gone". Guide vocal by Mick. Later recorded & released by Ronnie in 1981
Shame, Shame, Shame 3:50 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 Jimmy Reed cover, with slightly loose vocal by Mick. Sugar Blue on harmonica
Sheep Dip Blues 0:34 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 very brief blues instrumental with piano & harmonica (fades after 40 secs or so)
Some People Tell Me 4:49 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 A driving blues in a similar style to 'Stop Breaking Down', with rough 'growling' guide vocal by Mick.
Stay Where You Are 1:34 Girls, Pills and Powders Brief loose instrumental jam
The Way She Held Me Tight 4:34 Girls, Pills and Powders aka "Misty Roads"
Untitled Piano Instrumental 4:38 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 4: 40. Mostly piano driven. Check if its 'Light Up'. Theres no track listed for Place Pigalle Vol 4 called 'untitled piano instrumental'
Up Against The Wall 6:04 Place Pigalle Vol. 3 Instrumental with very prominent harmonica. An incomplete version (3:58) in better quality is on 'Sheep Dip Blues'. Also known as 'On Our Knees'
You Don't Have To Go 4:33 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 4:33 Jimmy Reed song. Mostly instrumental with rough vocal and lots of harmonica and guitar solos. Sounds a bit like "Black Limousine"! 'Biscuit Blues' on Girls, Pills & Powders
You Win Again 3:31 Place Pigalle Vol. 2 Hank Williams cover, with out of tune vocal by Mick. Later recorded solo by Keith for a Hank Williams Tribute album

Unverified songs (not in circulation)
Angeline
We Are Ripped On Down (this may be an early 'When the whip comes down', in which case it would date from the 1st Paris session in 1977)

There are also a few songs I'm not sure about, but which have appeared on bootlegs :

I cant Help It 3:24 Girls, Pills and Powders fast paced instrumental
feel no pain no more 4:42 Girls, Pills and Powders Medium paced instrumental, with country/blue style lead and a lot of piano
Los Trios Guitareros 3;10 Girls, Pills and Powders instrumental. Same as track listed above?
follow me 1:31 Girls, Pills and Powders funky licked instrumental. No audible bass, charlie on what sounds like brushes

Additionally, there's a bit of confusion between two songs 'Golden Caddy' and 'Brown Leaves' which may or may not be the same song in different stages of development

V1 Girls, Pills and Powders fades in. slow. Lots of guitar effects 3:05
V2 Girls, Pills and Powders Semi-false start. Similar to above 1:48
V3 place pigalle 5/6 fastest version 2:49. close to V4 and Dancing girls
V4 Girls, Pills and Powders faster than 1/2. closer to dancing girls 6:13
V5 All Mixed Up sloW version more in common with versions 1 & 2
V6 Chainsaw

the tracks listed as 'Brown Leaves' are versions 3 & 4. The rest may be 'Golden Caddy'

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by mojoman on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 11:38am

wow. thanks G!!!

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 12:39pm

Thanks, the formatting is a bit lost in the forums though, maybe you could put it on Google Docs if it's a spreadsheet ?

Not a big deal, but I think it would have been better to use the bootleg where the song first appeared, i.e Paris Results I/II versus the Place Pigalle that mixed up the tracks ad sometimes changed the titles.

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Post by Gazza on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 2:57pm

Thats too much like hard work! ;D

I put it together for my own use based on bootlegs that I had. I dont collect every bootleg CD (I dont even buy them) and wouldnt have a clue which was issued 'first'. Its more significant which has the best quality, I think, as sometimes you get upgrades after recordings have speed corrected and things like that.

Aeppli's book is very good for dissecting what albums these tracks are on - and in the process giving them their proper titles. His book is available online in the link provided.

Edit - I'm totally unfamiliar with google documents, but I'll try and do that to make the format a bit more readable.

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 4:11pm

Sure, it's just that Place Pigalle had some modified titles as you pointed out (You don't have to go/Biscuit Blues)

Looks great on Google Docs, link got cut though, here's a short one : http://tinyurl.com/sgsessions - maybe you could allow for others to edit it.

I'd written about "Brown Leaves" (Golden Caddy) here : http://stones.servebeer.com/Songs.htm and about "I can't help it" ("Shaved Stone" & "Love You Too Much") here : http://stones.servebeer.com/Songs/traxd.htm#shaved

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Post by Gazza on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 4:18pm

Google docs is new to me. I uploaded it there to a newly opened account (Gazza63a) but the link wouldnt work. >:( Will have a go at it again later.

I could e-mail the spreadsheet to you if you want, though.

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 4:49pm

Thanks, I was able to save it after logging in, online editing would allow others to pitch in, but it's already in a good shape ;-)

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Post by Pdog on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:02pm

We should really take a look at the studio stuff, and start our speculations...

Songs that are most likely to make it to bonus disc.

We know they aren't opposed to alt. versions...

Two that a likely would be Keith singing songs... did he do vocals on Bob?
Yellow Cab is a contender.
Fiji Jim and Misty Roads too... I'm thinking the bonus disc will be more funk and country, and less of the punk and abressive edge they seemed to put on, but who knows... I'm just going by the outtakes, seems more slower stuff on the boots... except for the early versions of released tracks.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:03pm

I'm Moist!!!

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Post by Teiz on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:06pm

I'm very happy with this reissue. Takes my mind off of the godawful side stuff - a shitty book, a poor man's super group (is that Shaggy sharing a mic with Mick?), the Simply Red Faces - and gives me something to look forward to. I hope the vaults stay open..

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Post by mojoman on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 6:08pm

Teiz wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:06pm:

i feel yer pain brother!!!

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Post by Bitch on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 7:12pm

This is cool, interesting, new, exciting, and probably expensive! Loyal fans, the Stones know they can always count on us! Happy to get anything 'new' even if it's 'old'. Love Some Girls! I wonder if there will be different 'packages' to buy, duplicate songs and some new thing to go with it. If you buy the first thing next thing you know there is a second thing with all that was in the first thing and a little more, and then a third thing!

When I listen to Some Girls it brings me back in time to the summer it was released, one of my best summers ever! Amazing friends and lovers. Isnt it strange how certain music brings you back to what you were doing then? You dont wanna know, haha, I can barely believe some of the shit I did, and I cant act that way now that I'm older so those days and nights are worth recalling! Long live the Stones!

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Post by Gazza on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 7:12pm

Pdog wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:02pm:

I would imagine that 'I Need You' with Keith doing most of the vocals would be a serious contender.

Fiji Jim, Misty Roads, No Spare Parts and Do You Think I Really Care (aka Yellow Cab) must be in with a good shout. No Spare Parts would need some work on the vocals and lyrics though - although of course there could well be a more complete take.

Claudine - no. Still litigious.

Everlasting is my love, Do You Get Enough, Its A Lie - possibles.

Really hope there's a finished take of 'Its a Lie' out there.

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 7:20pm

All good choices, there's a blues tune that Mick said he' recently written lyrics for, Biscuit Blues maybe? Since there probably won't be an "Emotional Rescue" set, Gangster's Moll would be a great choice. Oh and Dancing Girls too (long known as Linda Lu on the "Lonely at the Top" boot)

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Post by Deathgod on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:17pm

Is the DVD in this package the Some Girls LIVE Texas show, or a bonus DVD ?

:whydontcha

http://www.getmusic.com.au/rollingstones/store/detail?id=126138

CD1
1. Miss You
2. When The Whip Comes Down
3. Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)
4. Some Girls
5. Lies
6. Far Away Eyes
7. Respectable
8. Before They Run
9. Beast Of Burden
10. Shattered

CD2
Tracklisting coming soon! (will include new and rare recordings)

DVD
Tracklisting coming soon! but will be made up of live material and promo videos (30mins approx)

7” SINGLE
1. Beast Of Burden
2. When The Whip Comes Down

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by mojoman on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:50pm

will the super deluxe edition contain a wig?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 11:55pm

Some Guy Deluxe available now

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 4:53am

It's a shame the vinyl edition of Some Girls is not included with the 'Super Deluxe' package.

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 6:58am

http://goo.gl/PbfdS

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Post by mojoman on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 9:54am

ordered from AMAZON today.............. :keithpunky

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 10:57am

mojoman wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:50pm:

will the super deluxe edition contain a wig?

Why? Do you need one? :paristhong

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Post by rogerriffin on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 11:07am

The superdeluxe boxset its cheapest in amazon.co.uk £66.66 than in amazon.com $169.04.

why?

anyway, just pre-ordered now!!!

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Post by Pdog on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 5:48pm

Deathgod wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

I can't see them double dipping on the live in Texas set... that would be weird and kill sales... I see the DVd having the videos, maybe SNL appearance, interviews, and if there is live stuff it would be clips of Texas or totally different shows.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 5:50pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

Pdog wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:02pm:

I love, I need you, but even with a good version from boots, it's still rough... would love to hear it properly.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 5:53pm

if The Stones stay on course with my fave albums... from what is non-ABKCO, not sure if they will do a deleuxe thing with the first of the big four... anyway... Sticky fingers would have to be next, then Tattoo You... with the GHS IORR & BnB...

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Post by Ian Billen on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 10:04pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 11:00am:

_________________________________

Whoever may be bold enough to fool themselves and claim that they were not completely impressed with this personal log and record by you of those recording sessions is lying.

Excellent work - (I am sure you would even make Mr. Wyman envious at times).

Ian

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Post by corgi37 on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 6:13am

Really hope Sticky Fingers is next. And Black n Blue must have heaps of stuff. Always thought that album needed 1 more "Stones" track.

If the dvd for this is 30mins, could very well be Miss You, respectable & Far away eyes clips plus the SNL stuff.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 7:39am

corgi37 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 6:13am:

I think Respectable and either BOB or Shattered had a promo video... at least 4 were made...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 7:49am

'Faraway Eyes', 'Miss You' and 'Respectable' were promos...all with live vocals.

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Post by Gazza on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 3:47pm

as lefty has already said, NBC and UMG are part of the same group, so including the SNL footage shouldnt be a problem.

However, its not exactly their finest 15 minutes, what with Mick having a dodgy throat.

Maybe he'll do 2011 vocal overdubs.

Am hearing that the Deluxe will retail in the EU for about €85, which - like the Exile deluxe - is really overpriced (especially when you consider the blu-ray edition of last year's Springsteen 'The Promise' boxed set cost much the same, yet had 3 cds (32 songs) and 3 blu-ray discs which included about 7 hours of video footage)

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Post by Gazza on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 3:50pm

Ian Billen wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 10:04pm:

Whoever may be bold enough to fool themselves and claim that they were not completely impressed with this personal log and record by you of those recording sessions is lying.

Excellent work - (I am sure you would even make Mr. Wyman envious at times).

Ian

Cheers, Ian. In an ideal world, I'd love to be granted access to their studio logs to make things more definitive and be able to publish the info in book format or even as an online guide, but thats a bit of a pipedream.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 4:26pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 7:49am:

'Faraway Eyes', 'Miss You' and 'Respectable' were promos...all with live vocals.

wishful thinking or SNL appearance confusion... I really thought there was a 4th...

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Post by Gazza on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 5:01pm

Pdog wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 4:26pm:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 7:49am:

'Faraway Eyes', 'Miss You' and 'Respectable' were promos...all with live vocals.

wishful thinking or SNL appearance confusion... I really thought there was a 4th...

Just those three. There were no videos for Beast of Burden or Shattered.

A bit surprising that they were both US singles ("Respectable" was the second single from the album in the UK - and also the first Stones single I ever bought)

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Post by gotdablouse on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 8:17pm

So where's that tracklist for CD2, they must have finalized it now for sure. I think I read yesterday that Mick said there were 12 unreleased tracks from these sessions. We know it's more than that (even originals) so he was probably to the number of tracks on CD2...

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Post by Gazza on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 6:03am

yes, he mentioned twelve - although its been reported everywhere else that the bonus CD will have ten songs.

Sounds like the two extras might be used as bonus tracks for download singles in the way that they did with 'All down the line' last year.

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Post by Pdog on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 6:55am

Gazza wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 6:03am:

and the japan only song too...

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Post by corgi37 on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 7:45am

Whatever we get, we are gonna get good shit!

I love you all and its all great news.
The funny thing for me was that 78, MISS YOU, was what got me into the Stones. I bought the single. Then the 12inch . My sister (a Beatles nut who once had John Lennons bed sheet from Melbourne 1964 - our mum burnt it as "rubbish"), leant me GHS. Igot the Decca box set (with free t-shirt!), i think, made in the shade, between the buttone, ER etc - it was a while before i got Some Girls. Dunno why???

I was in America in 79 when Jerry Lewis did his annual telethon, and the Stones either donated all proceeds from Miss You to that charity, or they indeed, performed the song (or gave permission for the clip to be shown) - i cant recall. But after a fucking 29 hour flight from Melbourne, San Fran , LA - i was so jet lagged, and the 1st thing i saw was the Stones on the Jerry Lewis show - well, the deal was sealed.

I was a Stones junkie!

Still bloody am!

And my great, great Grandfather was a Yank!

So, all in all, with that history, and Mick being half Australian, i feel i deserve something for free!

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Post by steel driving hammer on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 10:56am

Starting to get confused.

Already have most of what's being released, prolly just not in good quality like this new one.

But why does November take a long way around?

Pefect timing for Xmas, so the lights on the Christmas trees for us won't go out.

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Post by Nellcote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 11:14am

corgi37 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2011 at 7:45am:

This is Hall Of Fame Posting.
Corgi, feel free to take the rest of the day off.

Thank you for your cooperation & support!

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Post by corgi37 on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 4:32am

I'll open a bottle of red and dance around in my garage to "respectable"!.

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Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 3:56pm

The Amazon price for the big juicy box set is outrageous. They are out of their fucking minds. I'll pay 80 bucks TOPS for this thing.

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 4:30pm

$169 @ amazon.com is for the Super Deluxe import.

Order direct from amazon.co.uk for around $110 delivered.

Or - wait until the domestic's listed...

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Post by Pdog on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 5:15pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 4:30pm:

$169 @ amazon.com is for the Super Deluxe import.

Order direct from amazon.co.uk for around $110 delivered.

Or - wait until the domestic's listed...

If this goes the way thing normally do... Best Buy should have this SD for about $80 or so, on sale the first week. I'm going to keep an eye out for the best deals, before I buy it...

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 12:06pm

Anyone seen a tracklist for cd 2 ?

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Post by Pdog on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 3:27pm

gotdablouse wrote on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 12:06pm:

Anyone seen a tracklist for cd 2 ?

nope, probably around end of this month...

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 10^th, 2011 at 4:02pm

ok, if not we'll have to start guessing!

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 11^th, 2011 at 9:39am

this is going to be good!

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Post by rogerriffin on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 3:41pm

in this site they are confirming the "new" titles, this will be true??

The 12 previously unreleased songs are:

Claudine
So Young
Do You Think I Really Care?
When You're Gone
No Spare Parts
Don't Be a Stranger
We Had It All
Tallahassee Lassie
I Love You Too Much
Keep Up Blues
You Win Again
Petrol Blues

The 2011 "Some Girls" remastered reissue will be available in the following formats:

CD (standard edition) with all 12 of the previously unreleased songs.
CD (box set) with all 12 of the previously unreleased songs; a 7-inch vinyl single of the remastered "Beast of Burden"/"When the Whip Comes Down"; a "Some Girls" book; a "Some Girls" set of postcards; a "Some Girls" photo print by Helmut Newton; and a "Some Girls" tour poster.
Digital with all 12 of the previously unreleased songs.
Vinyl with none of the previously unreleased songs. The track listing is the same as the original "Some Girls" release.

http://wwwcrazymama.blogspot.com/2011/10/with-all-details-of-new-12-songs.html

and in the promotional shirt they erase one more time Bill Wyman:

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by gotdablouse on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 3:58pm

Interesting...lots of blues stuff, not really the spirit of the SG sessions I'd say. Why "So Young" again and no Fiji Jim ?!

Wonder if "Don't be a Stranger" is a Mick rewrite or a track we know under a different name.

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Post by Tom on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

http://www.examiner.com/rolling-stones-in-national/some-girls-2011-reissue-complete-details-on-formats-and-track-listings

The 12 previously unreleased songs are:
1.Claudine
2.So Young
3.Do You Think I Really Care?
4.When You're Gone
5.No Spare Parts
6.Don't Be a Stranger
7.We Had It All
8.Tallahassee Lassie
9.I Love You Too Much
10.Keep Up Blues
11.You Win Again
12.Petrol Blues

Continue reading on Examiner.com 'Some Girls' 2011 reissue: complete details on formats and track listings - National Rolling Stones | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/rolling-stones-in-national/some-girls-2011-reissue-complete-details-on-formats-and-track-listings#ixzz1abUobwX0

So Young was released but seems it's ok to be in that CD as it was not on the LP

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 4:33pm

underwhelming, no?

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Re-issue Bonus Tracks
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 5:45pm

Thanks for posting, roger. And good on Carla Hay for the intel.

Won't quibble with the tracklist, but do find it somewhat odd that two of the songs - 'We Had It All' and 'Tallahassee Lassie' - were recorded after the release of 'Some Girls'.

'Claudine' is intriguing. Legal issues be damned, or new lyrics/vocals?

Another that might've gotten the 2011 treatment is 'You Win Again'...Mick swapping out his shambolic vocals with some new tear-in-my-beer C&W.

'Don't Be a Stranger' and 'Keep Up Blues' are the unknowns. Might be the hoped for "lost" gems, or might just be new names for a coupla old ones.

Look forward to hearing all of 'em...

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 6:39pm

I'm pretty sure 'When You're Gone' is on "Paris Results v2"...yep, there you go http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,1395633,1395787 - pretty decent tune actually. But no Fiji Jim, huh...

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:04pm

looking forward to more analysis on this

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Post by Gazza on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:28pm

At least two of those songs were recorded after Some Girls was released. Both of them covers.

'Tallahassee Lassie' was done at RCA in Hollywood in August 1978. I doubt there's an alternate take recorded for Some Girls.

'We Had It All' was cut in the Bahamas in early 1979. I guess its inclusion is to give Keith an obligatory lead vocal. ('I Need You' would have sufficed, surely?)

They must have done over 40 songs for Some Girls and (as they did with 'Title 5' on Exile which is almost certainly a Satanic Majesties era song) they've chosen to fuck around with historical accuracy once again. Grrr.

Still, its good to see that we're getting 12 songs instead of two, that 'Do You Think I Really Care' and 'Claudine' are being released (presumably they've got around the legal wrangles with the latter one way of another).

'When You're Gone' is a Ronnie co-write, which was reworked as an instrumental for his solo album '1-2-3-4' in 1981 as 'Red Eyes'.

Unless these are songs we already know with corrected titles, 'Don't Be A Stranger' and 'Keep up Blues' appear to be totally new to collectors. I assume 'Petrol Blues' is the song previously bootlegged as 'Petrol Gang'.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:33pm

having heard bootleg version of alot of these, it will be interesting to hear them in the 2011 form, and see how much tweaking they have done... This is going to be alot like Emotional Rescue's Companion in some ways... since ER was alot of leftovers, and that's what these are as well... anyone hear if there will be a Japan only track? I'm going to try to not think too much about until release date, and hopefully not get to worked up waiting and make it anti-climatic.

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Post by Nellcote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:41pm

Underwhelmed, as I was with the Exile release.
So Young, are you kidding me?
With so much in the vaults, we get a song already released?
Crumbs at the banquet table.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:45pm

No "Let's Go Steady"?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 8:12pm

I am planking on my penis.

http://youtu.be/McL1IufuE2s

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Post by Pdog on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 8:56pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 8:12pm:

I am planking on my penis.

http://youtu.be/McL1IufuE2s

Imagine the real version, cleaned up, a real mix and no hiss!!! It's going to make Emotional Rescue cum harder than a dead man!!!

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Post by Pdog on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 9:18pm

I'm taking info from the sessions noted by Nico. This is what's known and verified. Some tracks we pretty much know what we will get, like We Had It All... I'm thinking will be just like what has circulated on bootlegs... I've never analyzed Nico's stuff to the point of listening to the bootlegs and matching up songs to sessions before... i did notice alot of the songs I have heard on boots before aren't listed on his list... The stuff I used is from France 77 and 78 as listed on Nico's complete works.
http://www.nzentgraf.de/books/tcw/works1.htm

Claudine
- Claudine I (MJ/KR) -acoustic version
- Claudine II (MJ/KR) -Rock’n Roll-version
- Claudine III (MJ/KR) -Rock’n Roll-version, edit of version II
So Young
Do You Think I Really Care?
- Do You Think I Really Care I (MJ/KR/RW) -pedal steel version
- Do You Think I Really Care II (MJ/KR/RW) -guitar version
When You're Gone
- Redeyes (MJ/KR/RW) -with vocals/lyrics (‘When You’re Gone’)
No Spare Parts
Don't Be a Stranger
We Had It All
Tallahassee Lassie
I Love You Too Much
- Love You Too Much I (MJ/KR) -high energy punk version
- Love You Too Much II (MJ/KR) -slower, shorter early version
Keep Up Blues
You Win Again
Petrol Blues

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 9:24pm

This will be a very nice country, blues stroll in the woods.

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:03pm

Claudine??

I can't believe they are going to release it unless they change the lyrics

:spooky

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:16pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:03pm:

Claudine??

I can't believe they are going to release it unless they change the lyrics

:spooky

what's the big deal nowadays, also why no Misty Roads??

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:02am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

maybe new lyrics or hopefully Jagger wants to piss off some folks... If they did clear legal hurdles we would probably have heard by now, no?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:06am

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 7:45pm:

No "Let's Go Steady"?

'Emotional Rescue' outtake, recorded in Nassau, February 1979.

Same session as 'We Had It All'.

I guess if they were going to 'cheat' a bit and put on one song from a non-Some Girls session just to give Keith a lead vocal, it was either one or the other of these.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:10am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

Claudine's not a 'murderer' - "the judge ruled it was an accident", remember!

ACCIDENTS WILL HAPPEN!

Poor Claudine!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by gimmekeef on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:39am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

One...besides us who is going to listen to this..and secondly and maybe Voo these folks will appreciate folks knowing that yes they are still alive!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:47am

Gazza wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:10am:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

Claudine's not a 'murderer' - "the judge ruled it was an accident", remember!

ACCIDENTS WILL HAPPEN!

Poor Claudine!

Reminds me of Casey Anthony look wise...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 9:36am

Pdog wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:47am:

Gazza wrote on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 7:10am:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

Both, the murderer and (I think) the judge are alive

:scary

Claudine's not a 'murderer' - "the judge ruled it was an accident", remember!

ACCIDENTS WILL HAPPEN!

Poor Claudine!

Reminds me of Casey Anthony look wise...

Yeah,they both have the same psycho....What me? Look. :aimama

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 10:27am

I'm still planking over here.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Riffhard on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 11:48am

I'm just glad that No Spare Parts will be included! I just hope that the new vocal dubs sound good. That was my one complaint about the Exile deluxe box. The vocals seemed to slick for the raunchiness of the original. When this comes out I will be getting it Fast and Furious! Of that you can be sure! LOL!

Riffy

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by riffkeither on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 2:30pm

So young is already on the "out of tears " ep with i'm gonna drive !

Why no Fiji Jim , i hope the tracklist isnt right ...

they reconnect with provocation with Claudine lyrics and that's fine .

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by gotdablouse on Oct 13^th, 2011 at 3:27pm

Yeah, makes no sense to leave out "Fiji Jim"...I just listened to it again, but can't see any hint of "Don't be a Stranger" in there...

All the...stranger since I could still swear that Mick mentioned "Fiji Jim" in an online interview on AOL sometime in 1994 or 1995 as having been rerecorded in NY (So Young was touched up in 12/93 in NYC with five other unnamed tracks). Never found that interview again unfortunately.

"It's a Lie" is a nice track too.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by corgi37 on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:07am

I can dig this. Guess we'll have to wait for the 40th anniversary to get more tracks.

Told ya Claudine would be included! Why not? She probably needs a bit more press time.

it's been 44 years since "The Party".

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by rogerriffin on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:18am

Tracklist officially confirmed!

http://www.rollingstones.com/news/some-girls-track-list-revealed

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by throbby on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:30am

As long as " Do you think I really Care" is on it I'm content. In fact I'd still be happy if that was the only extra. A great song indeed. Can't wait to hear it cleaned up. Hopefully it will be the pedal steel version with the original vocals, and full length. Should have been on Some Girls.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 11:59am

Charlie looks like he'd rather be waterboarded than do this. Meanwhile Mick is frollicking in a Peruvian jungle and Keith is still hard at work creating....something. Strange band. :interestingstuffronnie

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 19^th, 2011 at 1:54pm

From the Stones facebook page :

UK fans - tune in to Ken Bruce on Radio 2 between 11am and 12pm tomorrow morning (20th Oct) to hear the world exclusive play of "No Spare Parts" taken from the upcoming "Some Girls" release!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/#r-2

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Oct 19^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

Nice.
I got to the film last night about 20 min early.
As soon as I walked in "Some Girls' was blasting.
The whole lp was played during the wait, with
still screen shots (see my post in Texas dvd thread)
of trivia. I was hoping that one would hear some
tidbits of the outtakes, however, no such luck.

I thought two things while watching the film.

1. Wouldn't it have been a coup to entice movie goers to the screening
at a shot to purchase the box set that night? Probably the costs of
such marketing would not permit this. I think they would have filled
theatres more than 7 people (which was all there were where I was.)
2. Wouldn't be a hoot if the Stones secretly guest hosted on SNL in November
playing Some Girls songs?

Hey, one can dream?

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Re-issue
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:35am

'No Spare Parts' sounds great! New MJ vocals are very nice.

Listen @ 2 hrs 5 mins in here.

Will be released as a single...gives a bonus track, boys!

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:52am

Thanks for the link, nice indeed ! Dunno if they added instruments or whether there was a better backing track than what had leaked. The acoustic sounds like it could have been added recently. The lead guitar is new and sounds good, Waddy Wachtel ?

2:05:36 to 2:09:58 -> 4'22"

Let's give the leaked version a listen now...6:05 for the length of the original version on Paris Results 1 and 6:12 on Better Results, sounds the same with no cracks. New version might have been speeded up a tad.

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Post by Nellcote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:33am

Just terrific.
Very radio friendly.
Great track.
"Windshield full of flies"
Thanks for the link!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:35am

I don't know, dudes.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by LadyJane on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:51am

First reaction; it's okay.
This could grow on me.
Wish it gave me the same rush as Plundered but it didn't.
Let's listen again..............

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:47am

I like it ... At least on first listen, I got the impression Mick took more than five minutes to write the lyrics.

In addition to new vocal, sounds like Mick added acoustic rhythm guitar.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:49am

Better than I dared hoped.

Fucking excellent in fact.

A genre that the Stones still do brilliantly and not often enough.

Nice job by Mick - and that Some Girls-era guitar sound never gets old.

:booze

Westlife split, Gadaffi dead and a new Stones single. Hopefully the last 24 hours are the first sprouts of a Brave New World...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:51am

I know it will sound better on my home stereo state of the art glencar 1000 sound system.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 11:43am

Gazza wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Stones killed the bastard!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by SoulPlunderer on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 11:47am

Gazza wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Westlife split, Gadaffi dead and a new Stones single. Hopefully the last 24 hours are the first sprouts of a Brave New World...

Fantastic! A momentus point in history.
I suppose the most important thing is that one of the world's greatest evils has been eradicated, although the news about Gaddafi is pretty big too.

I have to say, I did enjoy "No Spare Pats" having just listened to it on iPlayer. Ken Bruce was pretty condescending about the whole thing though...

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Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 11:57am

I left the player on, and they played Hotel California two songs later.... I feel gross!!!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 11:59am

SoulPlunderer wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

Gazza wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

Westlife split, Gadaffi dead and a new Stones single. Hopefully the last 24 hours are the first sprouts of a Brave New World...

Fantastic! A momentus point in history.
I suppose the most important thing is that one of the world's greatest evils has been eradicated, although the news about Gaddafi is pretty big too.

.

LOL...Belfast humour, Conor. Cant whack it with a big stick!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Riffhard on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:08pm

Love it! Are these vocals re-dubs? It sounds like Jagger circa 1978 to me. That was my big problem with some of the Exile tracks. The vocals sounded too contemporary for my tastes. Especially given the circumstances surrounding the sessions at Nellcote in 1972, etc. This sounds more authentic somehow and true to the feeling of the original sessions. No Spare Parts has always been one of my favorite unreleased tracks from those sessions and I'm loving the fact that I can now understand what the hell he Mick's singing! Great!

Riffy

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:19pm

Riffhard wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

Re-dub sounding to me. Hear Jagger's voice in the background as well. Thought I read somewhere that all of the unreleased stuff have new vocals, maybe earlier in this thread.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

Some songs will have new vocals. Not all of them.

This is a 2011 vocal I think, but he's managed to pull it off. I had visions of another 'Watching The River Flow cringe-fest, but it's a really good performance.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Riffhard on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

Nellcote wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Riffhard wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

Re-dub sounding to me. Hear Jagger's voice in the background as well. Thought I read somewhere that all of the unreleased stuff have new vocals, maybe earlier in this thread.

Yeah, I thought that I had read that too. Anywho, it still sounds great to me! I guess it just sounds more authentic to me than some of the Exile over dubs do. Perhaps that's because Jagger's doing more of a character voice ala Far Away Eyes.

Riffy

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

They do sound new, like the acoustic that "fills" the sound and the lead guitar (sounds a lot like Waddy Watchtel on "Saint of Me" to me), the rest seems mostly unchanged.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

Nellcote wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Riffhard wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

Re-dub sounding to me. Hear Jagger's voice in the background as well. Thought I read somewhere that all of the unreleased stuff have new vocals, maybe earlier in this thread.

I'm pretty sure I read that too, on another forum, it erupted a few skulls... the argument is that some would rather have the hissy crummy sound stuff like on the boots, rather than cleaned up dubbed and re-mixed stuff...

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Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:29pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

That song was just another ballad, like all the rest... if it creeps up on me, it ain't so bad... but if I'm paying attention, the skip fwd button is great.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Riffhard on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:40pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

LOL! Just listened to Watching The River Flow again for the first time in a long time, and I did indeed cringe! LOL! I just would have hoped that someone in the studio would have manned up and told Mick that it sounded like sickly treacle sweet, syrupy, cheesy, embarrassingly lame shite! That said, I still love the Exile reissue.

Riffy

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by gotdablouse on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:43pm

Pdog wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 12:27pm:

The Better Results version has excellent sound, it's just missing the acoustic, the lead guitar that plays fills and the new vocal. The end result is rather good though.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by luxury on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:16pm

Bravo Mick! Its fuckin great! Seamless blend of old with the new, once again. (I'm such a cheerleader)

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 2:22pm

luxury wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:16pm:

Bravo Mick! Its fuckin great! Seamless blend of old with the new, once again. (I'm such a cheerleader)

I just got an image of you in a cheerleader outfit... um...ah... ahem... great song, yes!!!

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Re-issue
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 6:31pm

http://goo.gl/AKE0K

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:30pm

nice work lefty...
just a guess, but listening to the track again.. I think some of the upfront Jagger vocal is def. 2011 and the backing track vocal is sounding like it's from the original sessions... I have to inspect closer, but that's my expert, which I'm not, opinion.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:38pm

I would guess all the vocals, including the backing high-harmony, are brand new. The timing of his phrasing is different than the original, and the lyrics are different (lonely hearts apparently are no longer made for breaking, for example). The old vocal track can't have synced up with that.

Speaking of lyrics. What's with all the Arizona shout-outs? Phoenix, Tuscon, Sonora, Benson, Del Rio. Has Mick been around those parts recently, or what?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:46pm

Oh, about those "lights of Marfa":
http://www.fabuloustravel.com/index.php?option=com_resource&controller=article&category_id=393&article=21971

Never heard of this in my life. Where have I been?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:56pm

A provisional attempt at the lyrics:

Your daddy drank himself half to death
When he was 39 years old
But I hope he don't think
I feel like a father to you

I wanna tell ya
I miss you so much
You're a thousand miles away
I'm at the wheel of my car
And I'm coming on home to you

Lonely hearts
They're not made to break
I got no spare parts
I got no oil to change

Honey, I ain't accustomed to lose
If I want something bad enough
I always find a way to get through

I take the 10 to Phoenix
Be in Tuscon by the afternoon
Some shut-eye in Benson
And a bite at the greasy spoon

Took a turn off 90 [thanks Lefty!]
I shoulda stayed on the interstate
I was lost in Del Rio
My map was kinda out of date

I saw the lights of Marfa
I guess it was a scenic route [thanks, Steely!]
When I had to change a tire
I'm glad I wore my western boots

Chorus

When I got to Sonora
The sun was shining in my eyes
With the air combusting
The winshield full of flies

In just a few hours
You're gonna fall in my loving arms
I've been so hot to see you
I set off the fire alarms

Chorus

Ad lib out!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:21pm

I saw the lights of Marfa
I guess it was a scenic route
When I had to change a tire
I'm glad I wore my western boots

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:23pm

I've been so hot to see you
I set off the fire alarms

Good job Mick! I love this line!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:27pm

Thanks, Steely. Shoulda been obvious!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:29pm

Mel, I am so excited over the track! I love new Stones even if it's new old Stones!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Ginda on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:41pm

I'm loving it! Thanks to Lefty for the link and Mel & Steel Wheels for the translation. Nice end to a long day. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 9:44pm

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 7:38pm:

in that case, if the lyrics are all new, my hats off, really good sounding to keep it in the decade of SG sounding...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 10:59pm

Ok on first listen. Not bad. Interesting they'd go with a country styled tune for the intial single from this. But not bad. Fun sounding and yeah anything new is always welcome from the Stones.
:willya

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Post by throbby on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 7:11am

Hmm..if I want somethin bad enough I always find a way to get through.

words to live by.

I like it.

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Post by Gazza on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:23am

About 20 listens later, and I love it more than ever each time. Wonderful.

A special time for me as it was the first 'new' Stones album I bought, so they can do no wrong in that era. The guitar sound from around then is my favourite ever.

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Post by dadrob on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:29am

not really much of anything, is it? Not horrible not hardly a gem

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Post by Gazza on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:38am

dadrob wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:29am:

not really much of anything, is it? Not horrible not hardly a gem

Outtakes are outtakes for a reason. Its unreasonable to expect a song that was left off an album 33 years ago to be on a par with 'Let it Loose' or 'Gimme Shelter'. Totally different set of standards and expectations.

Anyway - this quote from a Stones spokesperson seems to suggest that its a 1978 vocal, not 2011.

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1047113&c=1

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Post by Mel Belli on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:21am

That's 2011 Mick. I'm positive.

This is the Mick Taylor/Plundered My Soul thing all over again.

Let's trust our ears!

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Post by Gazza on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 12:27pm

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:21am:

That's 2011 Mick. I'm positive.

This is the Mick Taylor/Plundered My Soul thing all over again.

Let's trust our ears!

I agree. The bullshit spin machine has started early!

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Post by dadrob on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 4:29pm

trust me I was not expecting much...hey I've got no expectations ;)

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Post by Pdog on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 4:48pm

I'ts the Rolling Stones, from the 2nd favorite album of mine they released... I got expectations, on all levels. I want audiophile quality remastering, buying this again for the 6th time or so... I want the bonus disc to be superb, and I want to see the movie too... My life is all about giving and doing for others... this shit is for ME! I hope my expectations get met or close to it... if not, I will be bummed!!!

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Post by riffkeither on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 4:59pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 12:27pm:

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:21am:

That's 2011 Mick. I'm positive.

This is the Mick Taylor/Plundered My Soul thing all over again.

Let's trust our ears!

I agree. The bullshit spin machine has started early!

Mick taylor on Some Girls ? may be this song is about him ? lol

Is Mick Taylor Stones spare parts !

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Post by luxury on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 5:26pm

Oh please, spare me, Stones Spokeswoman. IF it aint entirely a new vocal, Mick has certainly tweaked it. That off pitch super low note on the original is suddenly spot on! Yes, Mel B., let's trust our ears. I fuckin love country Stones.

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 5:29pm

Same MO as the "new" 'Exile' stuff - Mick doubles his lead with a harmony vocal. Works beautifully.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by luxury on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 5:37pm

Im listenin to it right now--fucking vocal is new. Who that Spokeswoman think she's dealing with??????????????? We be ROCKS OFF!!

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Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 5:52pm

What a killer track. I love the vocal and the lyrics. Mick brings out the best in himself from time to time.

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Deluxe
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 5:55pm

Listen to the Unreleased Rolling Stones Song 'No Spare Parts'

Track is included on the new 'Some Girls' box set

By Andy Greene
October 21, 2011

http://goo.gl/FsY6S

The Rolling Stones have released the first track from their upcoming Some Girls box set. "No Spare Parts" has been bootlegged for years, but this version appears to be have been punched up with new vocals by Mick Jagger – and possibly some additional guitar work by Keith Richards and Ron Wood. They recorded a lot of material for Some Girls, so this is probably the first of many tracks from the session to see the light of day. While "No Spare Parts" lacks the instant hooks of "Beast Of Burden" or "Miss You," it's a nice country-tinged number that probably would have made the cut for most recent Stones albums. In the late 1970s, however, the band was churning out some of the best songs of their career and "No Spare Parts" just didn't measure up.

The new edition of Some Girls hits stores on November 21st. They seem to be re-doing one album a year at this point. Future candidates probably include Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Beggar's Banquet.

http://goo.gl/XdXEv

Rolling Stone

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Post by luxury on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 6:02pm

they need to hire one of us to be the god damn "spokesperson" !

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by gotdablouse on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 6:23pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:38am:

Anyway - this quote from a Stones spokesperson seems to suggest that its a 1978 vocal, not 2011.

http://www.musicweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1047113&c=1

It's hard to say really, clearly the track that got leaked was an early working version as there was no acoustic guitar and no lead guitar (no one seems to question when that was recorded), so it's possible there was a finished Mick vocal for it. Certainly doesn't sound like the way he sings now.

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Post by luxury on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 7:07pm

clean out yer ears, man

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Post by BILL PERKS on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 7:34pm

OMG THAT WAS HORRIBLE..A SINGLE? ARE WE FUCKIN KIDDIN? HORRIBLE VOCAL AND DRUMS WHICH DEFINITELY ARENT 1978..ABSOLUTE HORSHITE ! :nooslajaleisk

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Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:30pm

Thanks to Bill Perks for pissing on my fucking parade.

I'm going to listen to it twenty times in a row in your honor!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Ginda on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:34pm

It was beautiful the first time and gets better with each listen. Standing ovation in this corner.

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Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:39pm

Mr. Charlie Watts sounds great as usual.

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Post by Nellcote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:53pm

luxury wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 6:02pm:

they need to hire one of us to be the god damn "spokesperson" !

Zactly!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Teiz on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 4:04am

Gave it a bunch of spins yesterday and it will have another go after I finished listening to the excellent new dEUS album. Curious about the list of future releases btw. If they do a LIB or a Beggars reissue, they would have to deal with Klein's kin, or is all of that settled?

Black And Blue would be interesting I think, but then I'm willing to spend my hard earned cash on every deluxe album the Stones put on the market. I can only think of one album I wouldn't want to hear an extended version of.

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Post by Pdog on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 8:32am

Teiz wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 4:04am:

Sticky Fingers is the obvious next choice. I they do the two pre-glimmer twins stuff, not sure how the legal end would work out. The good thing is, the stuff in the vaults, is not really in need of alot of tinkering, but Jagger will sing over it anyway. I think he's bored and wants to make Stones music no matter what.
My guess is, if they stay on course:
Sticky Fingers
Tattoo You
GHS
IORR
ER
Beggars and LIB may have releases at anytime during this, but I'm really just guessing, if they even go further. And if it happens, they will speed up the releases, more than one a year. I wouldn't be surprised if during the Exile and SG work, they haven't already pulled tapes and started creating lists of songs to add or cut... If there's a 2012 tour, and regardless of a studio album or not, I bet we see SF and TY bonus/dlx editions... and if there's a tour, they will find a way to push the back catalog, and at this point, only deluxe editions are showing success to do that, and if no legal blocks, the first two of the big four as well... or nothing, and I just am wishing in the wind. IMO, since the selling of music has declined so much, that the time is ripe for them to do this, in some ways the other re-isssues make sense in retrospect, like 1994 remasters and tour and the 2002 SACD's and 40 year tour... There is no other way, I can see to bait our wallets, other than new/old music to buy, remasters aren't enough... especially the UMG ones, those were horribly mastered... a decline IMO!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 11:58am

It's great the Stones are officially exhuming the vaults for their meagerly remaining album buying fan base, but it's a damn shame Mick feels the need to desecrate this material with these geezerly, gericatric vocals. That's just not the point of releasing the vaults. Mick please, go wheeze and geez on Joss and Dave, Let the Vaults Bleed

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 1:55pm

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 11:58am:

if they were to release this stuff without better vocals, it would be shit, that 99% of people buying this would hate or listen to a few times... and it would ruin their legacy. The vocals on most of these outtakes are incomplete or not done well, they definitely were not in finished form for release...The songs that are finished, probably won't be tweaked, like they did with Good Time Women and I Ain't Signifying, otherwise, they have no choice... the real rish isn't pissing off a fan like you, who want demos and alts with warts and all, the rish is putting that out and being blasted for releasing crap they found in a garbage can, that's what most would say, and that kills a legacy... We have the boots, that's what you want, you already got it I hope.

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 1:59pm

Zexactly

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Post by BILL PERKS on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm

IT'S WORSE TODAY..WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT LITTLE DRUM FILL AT 3.34?THAT' S NOT CHARLIE. THIS IS LIVE LICKS BAD.MICK'S LYRICS AND VOCALS ARE STRAIGHT GAY AND ABYSMAL.

CHUCH MAGEE AND STU ROLLED OVER IN THEIR GRAVES WHEN THEY HEARD THIS SHITE.

AND I LOVED THE NEW EXILE TUNES(EXCEPT "DANCIN IN THE LIGHT".)

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Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:58pm

Zexactly

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Post by Pdog on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 11:59pm

what is straight gay... sounds like a very confusing scenario!!!

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 12:07am

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:

Find a nice tall bridge. Practice your swan dive and don't sweat the small stuff. :scary

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Paranoid Android on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 10:06am

That little drum-a-diddle is on the original at carious spots...4:18...and a bit less noticeably at 5:08

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Post by riffkeither on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 11:40am

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:

Intellectual handjob practice

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Post by Mel Belli on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 12:37pm

The curious-sounding drum parts are what we under the yellow sun refer to as "mistakes." :)

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Post by SoulPlunderer on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 5:22pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:

Straight gay? What do you mean bi that?
;)

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 5:33pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 10:06am:

That little drum-a-diddle is on the original at carious spots...4:18...and a bit less noticeably at 5:08

Good catch, heard it too on the Better Results version. Once again MR PERKS MAKES AN ASS OF HIMSELF (sorry for the ALL CAPS but it seems our friend doesn't read message unless they're ALL CAP)

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 8:01pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:

I don't hate it. It's very mediocre. It's not supposed to be like this.

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Post by corgi37 on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 5:44am

Un-inspiring is what i would call this song. Could they sound any more out of date and irrelevent? Jagger's vocals are terrible.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 7:41am

corgi37 wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 5:44am:

Un-inspiring is what i would call this song. Could they sound any more out of date and irrelevent? Jagger's vocals are terrible.

Kind of hard to sound up-to-date with a 30-plus-year-old outtake, no?

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 8:45am

we might get a good song similiar to PMS out of the whole lot.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 9:03am

Listen to unreleased Rolling Stones song No Spare Parts

Track included in upcoming Some Girls reissues

Joe Bosso, 21 Oct 2011

http://goo.gl/Be0JM

Depending on your level of fan devotion, The Rolling Stones' 'No Spare Parts' might be very familiar, something you've heard for years on bootlegs and YouTube, or it could strike you as totally new.

The truth is, the song is at least 33 years old, possibly more, and it was cut during the sessions leading up to 1978's Some Girls (listen below) but shelved in favor of stronger material. With a couple of reissue packages on the way, however, the recording has been polished and spit-shined (with what certainly sounds like a new vocal; the lyrics are definitely different) and will be included in both Deluxe and Super Deluxe sets.

Coming off like a first cousin to Some Girls' laid-back, countrified 'Far Away Eyes', 'No Spare Parts' features Mick Jagger on vocals and electric piano, Keith Richards on acoustic pie-ano, Ron Wood on pedal steel, along with the reliable rhythm section of Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman.

The Some Girls reissues will be available on 21 November.

http://goo.gl/txJnf

musicradar.com

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Post by steel driving hammer on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 9:07am

No Spare Parts was and is a great song.

But this time the vocals sound grainy.

The unfinished version was better.

They have grainy filters for singers right?

Still a great song.

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Post by BILL PERKS on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 12:43pm

gotdablouse wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 5:33pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 10:06am:

That little drum-a-diddle is on the original at carious spots...4:18...and a bit less noticeably at 5:08

Good catch, heard it too on the Better Results version. Once again MR PERKS MAKES AN ASS OF HIMSELF (sorry for the ALL CAPS but it seems our friend doesn't read message unless they're ALL CAP)

THE VERSION I KNOW IS ON MADE IN THE SHADE 1978,AND THAT FILL AINT ON IT.IT'S A FANTASTIC SONG AND I THINK MICK RUINED IT. SORRY IF YOU DONT LIKE MY OPINION, SO YOU AND ALL THE OTHER STEPFORDS CAN KISS MY ASS.
ACT LIKE IT.
:tongui

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Post by Pdog on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 3:20pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 8:45am:

we might get a good song similiar to PMS out of the whole lot.

might? oh ye of little faith!

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 6:59pm

Pdog wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 3:20pm:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 8:45am:

we might get a good song similiar to PMS out of the whole lot.

might? oh ye of little faith!

I'm with ya P!

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Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 7:54pm

I THINK IT'S A GOOD SONG WITH GOOD LYRICS. I LIKE IT A LOT. :kissmyass

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Post by Mel Belli on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 8:35pm

I like the lyrics too. There's nothing about fingernails in flesh, bitten lips, or poison.

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 3:32am

Someone on iorr heard Claudine on the radio, asked him if it was the fast rockabilly version or the long "rockier" version...has to be the former but who knows with the Stones, the rockier version is the first one I heard and still the one I like best.

Title: 'Some Girls' Reissue Limited Edition Colored Vinyl
Post by left shoe shuffle on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 8:35am

http://goo.gl/yeVKG

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Post by Nellcote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 2:38pm

I'm ready for another dose, let's get on with it!

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Post by Gimme Shelter on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 5:30pm

I wonder if Target is going to have a cd of just the unreleased songs like they did with the Exile release.

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Post by Pdog on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 8:07pm

Gimme Shelter wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

I wonder if Target is going to have a cd of just the unreleased songs like they did with the Exile release.

and a tee shirt too...

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Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:50am

Did anyone get the latest email-blast from the Stones? Who is doing a proofread on these things?

SOME GIRLS" TRACK LIST REVEALED

Original Tracks

1. Claudine
2. So Young
3. Do You Think I Really Care
4. When You're Gone
5. No Spare Parts
6. Don't Be A Stranger
7. We Had It All
8. Tallahassee Lassie
9. I Love You Too Much
10. Keep Up Blues
11. You Win Again
12. Petrol Blues

Bonus Material

1. Claudine
2. So Young
3. Do You Think I Really Care
4. When You're Gone
5. No Spare Parts
6. Don't Be A Stranger
7. We Had It All
8. Tallahassee Lassie
9. I Love You Too Much
10. Keep Up Blues
11. You Win Again
12. Petrol Blues

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Post by Gazza on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:03am

Another rip off. Two cds with the exact same tracks on each.

I wonder will anyone notice. ;D

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:12am

Yep, at first I thought they were giving us 12 more unreleased songs...or maybe Mick reads the forums and decided to release one CD with the raw original versions and one with the stuff he cooked up this year and that has some crying murder ;-)

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Post by Pdog on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:46am

Gazza wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:03am:

Another rip off. Two cds with the exact same tracks on each.

I wonder will anyone notice. ;D

be great if the released a pressing mistake, instant collectible.

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Post by dadrob on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 12:16pm

who played on what (so they say any way)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rolling-stones-unveil-array-of-vintage-unreleased-material-for-some-girls-release-2011-10-28

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 1:46pm

A minor technology bug was our downfall in our last email. Please accept our apology and see the updated list of original tracks below. Thank you all for helping to catch our mistake!

Disc 1
1. Miss You
2. When The Whip Comes Down
3. Just My Imagination
(Running Away With Me)
4. Some Girls
5. Lies
6. Far Away Eyes
7. Respectable
8. Before They Make Me Run
9. Beast of Burden
10. Shattered

Disc 2
1. Claudine
2. So Young
3. Do You Think I Really Care
4. When You're Gone
5. No Spare Parts
6. Don't Be A Stranger
7. We Had It All
8. Tallahassee Lassie
9. I Love You Too Much
10. Keep Up Blues
11. You Win Again
12. Petrol Blues

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Post by Nellcote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 1:54pm

dadrob wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

who played on what (so they say any way)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rolling-stones-unveil-array-of-vintage-unreleased-material-for-some-girls-release-2011-10-28

Thanks for this!

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 4:14pm

Very interesting thanks, "Don't be a stranger" is more and more intriguing...ladies and gentlemen, I give you...Matt Clifford on percussion !

More to the point I'm surprised that Stu isn't the piano player on Petrol Gang.

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Post by Pdog on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 9:09pm

dadrob wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

who played on what (so they say any way)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rolling-stones-unveil-array-of-vintage-unreleased-material-for-some-girls-release-2011-10-28

I'm copying the article, the type set online for the track info is really horrible font, should read better on here...

EW YORK, Oct 28, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- The Rolling Stones are set to delight their millions of fans, and another generation of new admirers, as they unveil a treasure trove of vintage unreleased material from the 'Some Girls' era of 1978.

Comprising an entire album of fresh material, the songs form the second disc on the deluxe edition of the band's seminal, multi-million-selling 1978 album Some Girls, which is released on November 21. It follows the massive worldwide success and acclaim for Universal's 2010 reissue of the Stones' hallowed 1972 set 'Exile On Main St.'

The appearance of the unreleased tracks on the deluxe 'Some Girls' means that after listening to such gems from the original album as 'Miss You,' 'Far Away Eyes,' 'Before They Make Me Run' and 'Beast Of Burden,' fans can enjoy a whole new set of contemporaneous work by the Stones. A fresh and compelling collection in its own right, it's also the perfect complement to one of the band's best-ever albums.

The unreleased tracks mostly feature performances by the whole band - Mick Jagger on lead vocals, piano, guitars and harmonica; Keith Richards on guitars,piano, harmony vocals (and lead vocal on 'We Had It All'); Ronnie Wood on pedal steel, electric and slide guitar; and the vintage Stones engine room of Bill Wyman on bass and Charlie Watts on drums.

Produced by the Glimmer Twins,Chris Kimsey and Don Was, the material also includes guest appearances by Stones diehards Ian Stewart and Chuck Leavell on pianos, harmonica player Sugar Blue (who also provided the unforgettable motif on the 'Some Girls' smash 'Miss You'), and for trivia freaks even handclaps on one song by former Creedence Clearwater Revival frontman John Fogerty.

The collection includes a wealth of fine Jagger-Richards compositions along with some fascinating cover versions, collectively reflecting the stripped-down rock 'n' roll, blues and country flavours of the famed 1978 album. 'So Young,' 'When You're Gone' (co-written by Ronnie Wood), 'Keep Up Blues' and 'Petrol Blues' all evoke the band's enduring rhythm and blues roots. 'Don't Be A Stranger' is an infectious shuffle and 'Love You Too Much' an archetypal Stones rocker.

'Do You Think I Really Care,' with its lyrical imagery of New York City, and the mid-tempo road tale 'No Spare Parts' dovetail with 'Far Away Eyes' and the 'Some Girls' title track in reflecting the band's longtime love of country music. No Spare Parts will be released as a single.

As if all of that wasn't enough to keep the hungriest Stones fan happy, there are three exceptional interpretations to add to their long list of distinguished cover versions. Keith takes the lead vocals on 'We Had It All,' written by the great Southern songwriters Troy Seals and Donnie Fritts and recorded by such country greats as Waylon Jennings and Conway Twitty. There's a rocking take on Freddy Cannon's 1959 favourite 'Tallahassee Lassie' and an assured version of the Hank Williams standard 'You Win Again.'

"It's wonderful to see the quality of these tracks measuring up to the songs that came out on the original album," says Ronnie Wood. "It's an extension of what was going on then," adds Keith Richards. "Sometimes great stuff gets left behind and its great to see it out there."

SOME GIRLS BONUS TRACKS
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. CLAUDINE
(JAGGER-RICHARDS)
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Keith Richards - electric guitar and harmony vocals
Mick Jagger - acoustic guitar, vocals
Ronnie Wood - acoustic guitar
Ian Stewart - piano
2. SO YOUNG
(JAGGER-RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar & harmony vocals
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano
Chick Leavell - piano solo
3. DO YOU THINK I REALLY CARE
(JAGGER RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals + acoustic guitar
Keith Richards - acoustic guitar + harmony vocals
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel + electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano
4. WHEN YOU'RE GONE
(JAGGER, RICHARDS, WOODS)
Mick Jagger - vocals, guitar & harp
Keith Richards - guitar
Ronnie Wood - guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums
5. NO SPARE PARTS
(JAGGER - RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals, el piano, guitar, tambourine
Keith Richards - piano
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar & pedal steel
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
6. DON'T BE A STRANGER
(JAGGER-RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals, percussion
Keith Richards - electric guitar, acoustic guitar, percussion
Ronnie Wood - acoustic guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - marimba
Don Was - bass
Sugar Blue - harp
Matt Clifford - percussion
7. WE HAD IT ALL
(TROY SEALS / DONNIE FRITTS)
Keith Richards - vocals, piano, acoustic guitar, electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel
Sugar Blue - harp
8. TALLAHASSEE LASSIE
(SLAY, CREWE, PICARIELLO)
Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums
Ian Stewart - piano
Handclaps by Mick Jagger, John Fogerty and Don Was
9. I LOVE YOU TOO MUCH
(JAGGER-RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar, harmony vocals, piano
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums
10. KEEP UP BLUES
(JAGGER-RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals & harp
Keith Richards - electric guitar
Ronnie Wood - slide guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
11. YOU WIN AGAIN
(HANK WILLIAMS)
Mick Jagger - vocals, acoustic guitar
Keith Richards - electric guitar & el piano
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano
12. PETROL BLUES
(JAGGER -RICHARDS)
Mick Jagger - vocals and piano
Produced by CHRIS KIMSEY, DON WAS AND THE GLIMMER TWINS
Recorded by CHRIS KIMSEY
at PATHE MARCONI STUDIOS, PARIS
except TALAHASSIE LASSIE
Recorded by MICHAEL CARNAVALE
at RCA RECORDING STUDIOS, HOLLYWOOD

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Post by Pdog on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 9:59am

Bummer that the No Spare Parts 7" vinyl single being released for record store day on Black Friday, won't have a unreleased b-side... it will have Before They Make Me Run... There's still hope that the Japanes version may have a unique track, like Exile did...

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/10/28/4014967/the-rolling-stones-release-no.html

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 28, 2011 -- /PRNewswire/ -- Universal Music Group has announced that The Rolling Stones will issue the previously unreleased track "No Spare Parts" on exclusive limited edition 7" vinyl to mark Record Store Day's "Black Friday", Friday, November 25. A digital download version of the single will be available the week commencing November 14.

"No Spare Parts" is one of twelve bonus tracks that have been unearthed for inclusion on the forthcoming deluxe and super deluxe reissue of The Rolling Stones' Some Girls – widely regarded as one of the band's greatest albums. Some Girls will be released on November 21.

"No Spare Parts" captures the daring and diverse spirit of the album's legendary sessions. Recorded in Paris in 1978, the song tells the story of a trip from Los Angeles to San Antonio, Texas featuring Mick Jagger on electric piano, Keith Richards on acoustic piano, Ronnie Wood on pedal steel guitar, Charlie Watts on drums and Bill Wyman on bass. With a country guitar twang, subtle groove, and soulful storytelling, it's a powerful and poignant acoustic tune from The Rolling Stones, and an essential addition to any fan's catalogue.

The limited edition 7" version of the single will also include Some Girls album track "Before They Make Me Run" on the B-side.

Other never-heard-before tracks featured on the Some Girls reissue will include "We Had It All", "I Love You Too Much" and "Don't Be A Stranger".

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/10/28/4014967/the-rolling-stones-release-no.html#ixzz1cBOywItu

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Post by Zack on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 1:59pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

Keep your pants on Perks, I tend to agree with you. Jagger can't do his fake country shtick any more, or a lot of what he used to be able to do vocally. This track list is not at all like the Exile bonus cuts. On those, I had never heard the key tracks Pass the Wine, Plundered, or Following the River before in my life, and a few of the others as instrumentals only.

This one is essentially the best of the Made in the Shade 78 boot, one of -- if not the --premier studio outtake collection in their unreleased oeuvre. It was perhaps the most fertile period ever, certainly of the Wood era. I have loved these tracks for more than a decade, most of which already had pretty good vocals. If Jagger re-does all the vocal bits I know so well in his SuperHeavy voice I will be deeply disappointed --in stark contrast to the Exile bonus cuts. I hope I am wrong of course. :nooslajaleisk

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Post by Pdog on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 3:19pm

Zack wrote on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 1:59pm:

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

you kinda said it best... and the chances of Jagger redoing these, are way more likely. He loves to keep busy, and I'm sure he loved do the new vocals last time... put that together, and we may have some serious reworking. Claudine should be like Ain't signifying and Good time women, and hopefully left alone... but anything that wasn't release ready, is probably getting a working over, more than the Exile bonus disc... I think I've said it before... I'm not looking at the bonus disc as an archival release, and it isn't being proloted as one... it's bonus music, on a bonus disc, with songs that went back over... I see it more like new music, even though I know it was created long ago, and now reworked.
There isn't one of us die-hards, that if Plundered My Soul was released as a new song last year, without us knowing it's origins, wouldn't have said, this is a great new track... and all bullshit aside, it was a great new track!!! Regardless of it's origins!

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Post by Gazza on Oct 30^th, 2011 at 10:58am

Damn. I cant believe Jagger saw fit to put a new vocal on 'Do You Think I Really Care'. While the original is a run-through, a bonus disc of unreleased outtakes is just ideal for it in it's original form.

And so much for the accuracy of the credits, which has no backing vocals by Keith listed. According to this review, they're still intact.

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Post by gotdablouse on Oct 30^th, 2011 at 12:20pm

An interesting read, you have to wonder how much of a fan, let alone expert, this guy is though, apparently not knowing that "So Young" was released as a B-Side to a VL single.apparent

Seems clear that "Don't be a Stranger" is not "Fiji Jim" under another name. How odd they passed on that great song...maybe they saved it for the Japanese version?

I'm guessing leaks of other songs can't be too far now...

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 7:38am

I don't know, dudes.

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Post by Jumacfly on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:14am

All we know is that the ER bonus cd will be a HUGE blast, buddy.

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Post by Some Guy on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:27am

Jumacfly wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:14am:

All we know is that the ER bonus cd will be a HUGE blast, buddy.

The He Man Emotional Rescue Lovers Appreciation Society is on pins and needles!

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 4:10pm

The cover of the single "No Spare Parts" with thanks to The Juf

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Post by the juf on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 5:31pm

riffkeither wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 10:35am:

corgi37 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Jagger can say Pauline ! as Claudine ..... like Let's spend sometimes together

What a great idea!!

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Post by andrews27 on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 8:39pm

See, the record companies and stars have come to understand the popularity of bootlegged songs and song versions, but not the influence of bootlegs on fan sensibilities in terms of archival interest in authenticity. And that's where they (and we) will always lose.

Who the hell wants to hear already existing Some Girls-era vocals re-done? I cringe at the thought of hearing "Do You Think I Could Ever Care" or "Claudine" after hearing the overdetermined mess made of "Spare Parts." We put up with the Exile overdubs, and even encouraged them. Now we're going to be sorry....

This is like porn stars remaking their old pictures.

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Post by Pdog on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:26pm

andrews27 wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 8:39pm:

porn might not be the best example, if it's hot people fucking, I'm cool with it, and if it's The Stones rocking, I'm going to hold it down!

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Post by Jumacfly on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 11:16am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 4:10pm:

The cover of the single "No Spare Parts" with thanks to The Juf

They forgot to delete Bill on this one!

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Post by Edith Grove on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 2:40pm

Sorry if I missed it, but has it been announced what is on the DVD in the "Super Deluxe" package ?

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Post by andrews27 on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 3:55pm

Pdog wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:26pm:

andrews27 wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 8:39pm:

See, the record companies and stars have come to understand the popularity of bootlegged songs and song versions, but not the influence of bootlegs on fan sensibilities in terms of archival interest in authenticity. And that's where they (and we) will always lose.

Who the hell wants to hear already existing Some Girls-era vocals re-done? I cringe at the thought of hearing "Do You Think I Could Ever Care" or "Claudine" after hearing the overdetermined mess made of "Spare Parts." We put up with the Exile overdubs, and even encouraged them. Now we're going to be sorry....

This is like porn stars remaking their old pictures.

porn might not be the best example, if it's hot people fucking, I'm cool with it, and if it's The Stones rocking, I'm going to hold it down!

It's how Lester Bangs would have told it.

Does Dylan need these historically obscurantist and geriatric-sounding overdubs on his "Bootleg Series" material?

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 4:16pm

Well, I guess, to The Stones (themselves, not the machine), some of these songs remain incomplete...Exile ex/ Aladdin...PMS, etc...to us they are GEMS...but the artist feels it has to be finished...anbd not just dusted off...

I agree, with the above, I love the ruff cuts ala Mr Zimmerman...and i think the boots avail just need to be cleaned up a bit and NOT re-done/re-worked/overdubbed.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 7:10pm

andrews27 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 3:55pm:

Pdog wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:26pm:

andrews27 wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 8:39pm:

See, the record companies and stars have come to understand the popularity of bootlegged songs and song versions, but not the influence of bootlegs on fan sensibilities in terms of archival interest in authenticity. And that's where they (and we) will always lose.

Who the hell wants to hear already existing Some Girls-era vocals re-done? I cringe at the thought of hearing "Do You Think I Could Ever Care" or "Claudine" after hearing the overdetermined mess made of "Spare Parts." We put up with the Exile overdubs, and even encouraged them. Now we're going to be sorry....

This is like porn stars remaking their old pictures.

porn might not be the best example, if it's hot people fucking, I'm cool with it, and if it's The Stones rocking, I'm going to hold it down!

It's how Lester Bangs would have told it.

Does Dylan need these historically obscurantist and geriatric-sounding overdubs on his "Bootleg Series" material?

Dylan doesn't tour to huge stadiums, to each their own... I understand your desire to get what you want, but you can wish in one hand and... you know they saying? See which hand gets full first!
Regardless of what we want, this is not an archival release, the archival release is the Live in Texas audio and video... tell you the truth... at least we are getting archival releases, so there's hope for more... I'm fine if I had to choose between those demos or live stuff, and which was polished and which was as is... I want the live stuff as is, I'll take the studio cuts cleaned up... I listen to them alot more this way... the demos get old, and i already have them on bootlegs.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 6:33am

Hello ROers...if anyone is using AMAZON to pre-order or regular order the DVDs or CD's , please use this link:

http://www.fundyourpta.org/fpg.php

My Glimmer Twins school gets 6% of most sales...it costs you nothing...use it for ANYTHING on AMAZON, all year long.

I thank you in advance,

Paul

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Post by Pdog on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 6:51am

Paranoid Android wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 6:33am:

one day late for me, so sorry... I set up a blog with links too, but never use it, and forget to use my wifes links. If we we more organized, we could all help each other save a few bucks.

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Post by throbby on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 8:34am

"Damn. I cant believe Jagger saw fit to put a new vocal on 'Do You Think I Really Care'."

huh?...and then the depression set in...

Hey Gazza, where did you read this or have you heard it?

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Post by Gazza on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 11:37am

Someone posted Carla Hay's review of the bonus disc in her 'Rolling Stones Examiner' column at the top of this page. My post and gotdablouse's comments were a reaction to it.

Seems to have disappeared for some reason. Anyway, she said that it's a different version and her review seems to suggest it's a new vocal.

Here's a link to it :

http://www.examiner.com/rolling-stones-in-national/some-girls-2011-reissue-full-review-including-previously-unreleased-tracks

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Post by Pdog on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:09pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 11:37am:

thought I dreamed it, thanks for reposting the link. I hate links too, so I copied the text...

'Some Girls' 2011 reissue: full review, including previously unreleased tracks

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The Rolling Stones’ 1978 album “Some Girls” is described by many critics as the last great album the band ever made. Although many fans would find that opinion debatable, there’s hardly any dispute that “Some Girls” is one of the best albums the Rolling Stones ever made. So with all the Rolling Stones albums that have been repackaged and re-released over the years, it’s always hugely intriguing when the reissues come with bonus tracks of previously unreleased or hard-to-find songs.

Such is the case with the 2011 reissue of “Some Girls,” which Universal Music will release worldwide on November 21, the same day that the Rolling Stones concert film "Some Girls Live in Texas '78" will be released on DVD and Blu-ray. The "Some Girls" album reissue's bonus tracks were mostly uncompleted songs written in the late 1970s and completed in 2011, with producer credits going to Don Was, Chris Kimsey and the Glimmer Twins. (Universal Music released a remastered reissue of “Some Girls” in 2009, but it did not have any bonus tracks.) The Rolling Stones' lineup for the "Some Girls" album consisted of lead singer Mick Jagger, guitarist Keith Richards, drummer Charlie Watts, bassist Bill Wyman and guitarist Ronnie Wood. "Some Girls" also features various backup musicians.

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I previously reported details on the 2011 “Some Girls” reissue, including what the bonus tracks would be and the formats available for the reissue. I received an advance copy of the 2011 reissue of “Some Girls,” and I’m happy to report that the bonus tracks alone make the reissue worth buying. Rolling Stones fans already know what the original “Some Girls” album sounds like (or at least heard most of the original album’s 10 songs, including the hits “Miss You” and “Beast of Burden”). If anyone is not yet familiar with the album, there are countless places to find the original “Some Girls” album. There are also countless reviews of the original “Some Girls” album, so there’s no need to rehash here what the 10 songs on the original album sound like. This is a review of the 12 bonus tracks on the 2011 “Some Girls” reissue.

Claudine
(Total running time: 3:42)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - acoustic guitar, vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar, harmony vocals
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ronnie Wood - acoustic guitar
Ian Stewart - piano

This song is a stellar example of the Rolling Stones paying tribute to the sound pioneered by Chuck Berry. It has the same rollicking feel of many of Chuck Berry’s classics, and the music sounds like something that could have been written in the 1950s. The lyrics for “Claudine” were reportedly inspired by Claudine Longet, a former wife of Andy Williams, who was convicted of misdemeanor criminal negligence for the 1976 fatal shooting of her Olympic skier boyfriend Valdimir “Spider” Sabich. With lines like “There’s blood in the chalet, blood in snow; she washed her hands of the whole damn show,” the Stones infuse a touch of macabre irony. It’s an interesting contrast to the upbeat music of the song.

So Young
(Total running time: 3:18)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar, harmony vocals
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano
Chuck Leavell - piano solo

“So Young” (which sounds like a musical cousin to George Thorogood’s song “One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer”) is exactly what it implies from the title: It’s an ode to chasing jailbait — or at least a song about seducing a female who is young enough to be considered taboo for the narrator lusting after her. The bootlegged (unfinished demo) version of the song has Jagger mumbling a lot of the lyrics. This version definitely has finished lyrics, which tell the tale of an older man who meets a girl “at the arcades” and woos her. An example: “I took her down to Barney’s, bought her a brand-new set of boots … She was terminally cute.” The song’s title may be repeated too much in the song for some people’s tastes, but it’s an overall solid tune — just not outstanding.

Do You Think I Really Care?
(Total running time: 4:22)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals, acoustic guitar
Keith Richards - acoustic guitar, harmony vocals
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel, electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano

Mick Jagger was spending a lot of time in New York City when this song was written, and it shows in the lyrics to this mid-tempo song that has country-rock leanings. There are references to the subway, the D train, 57th and Broadway, Max’s Kansas City and the Long Island Expressway. The finished version that appears on the reissue has Jagger clearly enunciating the lyrics (in the bootlegged demo, Jagger’s voice trails off a few times), and the finished version has much slicker production. The main chorus is: “Do you think that I really care for a girl who’s never there?”

When You’re Gone
(Total running time: 3:51)

Written by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ron Wood

Mick Jagger - vocals, guitar, harp
Keith Richards - guitar
Ronnie Wood - guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums

A definite highlight on this set of bonus tracks, “When You’re Gone” is a foot-stomping, bluesy breakup song with the harmonica playing a prominent role. The lyrics to this song cut like a knife. An example: “I don’t want to think about you when you’re gone. I don’t want to hear your voice talk on the phone. All those notes and those cards, I’ll throw them in the yard. I’ll put them in the trash where they belong.”

No Spare Parts
(Total running time: 4:30)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals, electric piano, guitar, tambourine
Keith Richards - piano
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar, pedal steel
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass

This twangy, Rolling Stones country song is another high point of the collection. The lyrics tell the story of trip from Los Angeles to the Texas city of San Antonio. Gram Parsons, who heavily influenced the country-flavored songs on the Stones’ 1972 album “Exile in Main Street,” would have been very proud of “No Spare Parts.”

Don’t Be a Stranger
(Total running time: 4:06)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals, percussion
Keith Richards - electric guitar, acoustic guitar, percussion
Ronnie Wood - acoustic guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - marimba
Don Was - bass
Sugar Blue - harp
Matt Clifford – percussion

It’s not a reggae song, but it has a reggae vibe. “Don’t Be a Stranger” is another mid-tempo number that has a simple and catchy chorus. The melodies have a sing-song, lilting quality to it that match the carefree, inviting spirit of the lyrics. For example, the opening lines are: “I haven’t seen your face for years. I thought you had just disappeared. Don’t you worry. What are friends for? You can call me up most anytime. I never go to bed ‘til 5. Don’t be stranger. Just knock on my door … Don’t be a stranger, a stranger no more.”

We Had It All
(Total running time: 2:54)

Written by Troy Seals and Donnie Fritts

Keith Richards - vocals, piano, acoustic guitar, electric guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel
Sugar Blue - harp

This melancholy ballad with Keith Richards on vocals is one of the best tracks in this collection. With lyrics that mourn a lost love, the piano and slide guitar on this tune are emotionally effective without being overbearing. It doesn’t sound like Richards re-recorded the vocals for this release, since his current singing voice is much lower and deeper than how his singing voice was when he recorded the demo of this song back in the 1970s. The production team wisely chose to keep this song simple for the official release, instead of doing something crazy like add more guitars or (God forbid) violins. More guitars would change the pensive tone of the song, and violins would just make it too schmaltzy.

Tallahassee Lassie
(Total running time: 2:37)

Written by Bob Crewe, Frank C. Slay and Frederick A. Picariello

Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums
Ian Stewart - piano
Handclaps by Mick Jagger, John Fogerty and Don Was

Clearly inspired by 1950s rock and roll but with a more modern edge, the Rolling Stones' interpretation of “Tallahassee Lassie” is another Rolling Stones song whose demo has been bootlegged over the years. This new and improved version has a more equal balance between Jagger’s vocals and the musical instruments. (In the demo, Jagger’s voice was overwhelmed by the instruments.) The finished version of this song has more punch to it, and it’s one of the tunes on this bonus set that reminds people of the attitude and swagger that made the Rolling Stones famous.

I Love You Too Much
(Total running time: 3:10)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals
Keith Richards - electric guitar, harmony vocals, piano
Ronnie Wood - electric guitar
Bill Wyman - bass
Charlie Watts - drums

While some of the songs on this bonus set are nods to country music or 1950s rock, “I Love You Too Much” sounds like it could have fit right in with the more 1970s-sounding songs “When the Whip Comes Down” and “Respectable” that are on the original “Some Girls” album. Richard’s backup vocals are very prominent. And although the song’s title is repeated a few too many times, there are some memorable lyrics, such as “You got me dizzy like a martini lunch.” And it should be noted that this version of “I Love You Too Much” is a vast improvement over the demo. The demo sounded like drunken rambling on a truly unfinished song. In this official version, the song has coherent lyrics and tighter musicianship.

Keep Up Blues
(Total running time: 4:20)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals & harp
Keith Richards - electric guitar
Ronnie Wood - slide guitar
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass

It’s common knowledge that the Rolling Stones started out as a blues band, and this song is a fierce tribute to their roots. Out of all the bonus tracks on this reissue, Jagger gives perhaps his best vocal performance on “Keep Up Blues.” The harmonica playing on this track also stands out without overshadowing Jagger’s vocals. On this song, Jagger is clearly having fun with the lyrics, as he portrays a superficial narcissist who wants people to think he’s wealthier and hipper than he really is: “My shirt’s made in England. My shoes in Rome. You know I’m coming. Smell my cologne. Keep up, baby. Keep up with the times. Better watch out — you’ll be left lagging far behind.”

You Win Again
(Total running time: 3:00)

Written by Hank Williams

Mick Jagger – vocals, acoustic guitar
Keith Richards - electric guitar & el piano
Ronnie Wood - pedal steel
Charlie Watts - drums
Bill Wyman - bass
Ian Stewart - piano

This country ballad could be the less-talkative musical companion to “Far Away Eyes,” which is another country ballad from the original “Some Girls” album. The slide guitar and Richards’ background vocals nicely complement Jagger’s vocals, which soar in the killer chorus: “This heart of mine could never say what everybody knows but me. Just trusting you was my great sin. I just can’t go on. You win again.” Put it this way: “You Win Again” is the type of song that has “honky tonk saloon” written all over it.

Petrol Blues
(Total running time: 1:35)

Written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards

Mick Jagger - vocals and piano

If Robert Johnson’s instrument of choice had been a piano instead of a guitar and he was lamenting a gas-fuel crisis, he might have come up with a song that sounds kind of like “Petrol Blues.” There are no guitars on this short song, but the piano playing is prominent throughout the tune. The lyrics are political without being preachy (“Please, Mr. President, say it isn’t so. I’m going to have to sell my Cadillac I just paid for. I talked to Standard Oil. They say they got plenty but they say they ain’t gonna part … I even called up Texaco. They got plenty left. They got plenty to go. Hey, Mr. President. Say it isn’t so. Why do I have to sell my Cadillac I just paid for?”)

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:23pm

Any truth to the rumor of Mick's re-write to Claudine?
"Lindsay's back in jail again"

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Post by Pdog on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 3:19pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:23pm:

Any truth to the rumor of Mick's re-write to Claudine?
"Lindsay's back in jail again"

wasn't that a joke...?

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 3:27pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:23pm:

Any truth to the rumor of Mick's re-write to Claudine?
"Lindsay's back in jail again"

Facebook meets Rocks Off. ;D

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 4:05pm

Pdog wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 3:19pm:

Nellcote wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:23pm:

Any truth to the rumor of Mick's re-write to Claudine?
"Lindsay's back in jail again"

wasn't that a joke...?

Yeah sure was.
Judgeorama gave her time to come to court
to complete her Playboy filming.
"Lindsay Lohan was not immediately sent to jail because the judge decided to allow
her time to complete her nude photo shoot for Playboy"
Hope Hugh can work on those crack teeth she has now..

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 4:53pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 4:05pm:

Pdog wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 3:19pm:

Nellcote wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2011 at 2:23pm:

Any truth to the rumor of Mick's re-write to Claudine?
"Lindsay's back in jail again"

wasn't that a joke...?

Nellie, she's got some teeth......Some go this way,some go that way. :perverted

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Post by corgi37 on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 6:01am

Britney Spears releases her tour dvd the same day the Stones do.

Which one will i buy?

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Post by Pdog on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 7:08am

corgi37 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 6:01am:

Britney Spears releases her tour dvd the same day the Stones do.

Which one will i buy?

got my first iPhone yesterday... can't wait to set it up to countdown to the 21st!!!

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 2:20pm

2 weeks for Tuesday I will be all over Best Buy!
This is how it kind of feels now to me-

1. Claudine - I'm not too excited about this one honestly, the boots never moved me.
2. So Young- been there done that- still not excited.
3. Do You Think I Really Care- cautiously curious, concerned about overenunciationism.
4. When You're Gone- now we're talking, excitement reached.
5. No Spare Part- pooey!
6. Don't Be A Stranger- this could be good, once again excited!
7. We Had It All- still happy
8. Tallahassee Lassie- might be even happier
9. I Love You Too Much- this could be cool and worth hte price of admission.
10. Keep Up Blues- I'm in
11. You Win Again- of course it will be good.
12. Petrol Blues- looking forward to this.

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Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:51am

Since it's November I looked for the bonus track for the Japanese version, what I found was the track list in Japanese and the last one was

ペトロール・ブルース

Using the Google translator it comes with "Blues pair trawl" LOL I think they mean "Petrol Blues" that is the last track of the regular edition, not the bonues track

:wtf3

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:16pm

Today's tidbit via Facebook...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Yvat4PyE4Vo

Title: 'Some Girls' Super Deluxe
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:29am

http://goo.gl/lxrL2
Helmut Newton

Super Deluxe DVD:
1. 'Beast Of Burden' - Some Girls: Live In Texas '78
2. 'Shattered' - Some Girls: Live In Texas '78
3. 'Tumbling Dice' - Some Girls: Live In Texas '78
4. 'Respectable' - Promo Video
5. 'Far Away Eyes' - Promo Video
6. 'Miss You' - Promo Video

http://goo.gl/550Vb

Title: 'Some Girls' Reissue
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:40am

Best Buy:

http://goo.gl/rdSdD

$34.99

Best Buy® Exclusive

The Rolling Stones classic album Some Girls returns in a two-disc remastered edition, featuring the complete album,
previously unreleased outtakes and a limited-edition size large T-shirt.

While supplies last.

amazon.com:

http://goo.gl/kDbO0

$56.49

- 'Some Girls' CD
- Zippered CD Case Packaging (holds 24 CDs, 'Some Girls' CD is included)
- Keychain
- Guitar Pick Set
- Button Pack

http://goo.gl/U7Qz2
$190

- Wig Box Packaging
- Lipstick USB containing Remastered Deluxe 'Some Girls' Album, Rare Photos and Videos
- XL T-shirt Packaged in Hairspray Can
- Hair Pick
- Mirror Compact

__

So collectible...

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Super Deluxe
Post by Gazza on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:04am

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:29am:

Seriously..that's all the DVD footage? Three promos that everyone's seen a million times and a 12 minute teaser for the Live In Texas DVD which should have been included in the package in full?

For fuck sake, they really do know how to milk it.

Is the SNL footage being included in the Live In Texas DVD as a bonus?

Underwhelmed.com

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by dadrob on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 12:26pm

how about the SNL rehearsals...getting a clean copy of that stuff would be awesome sauce

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 3:38pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:51am:

thx for looking, I'm holding out hope for Fiji as the bonus...

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Super Deluxe
Post by Pdog on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 3:41pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:04am:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:29am:

That was posted somewhere, that DVD would have SNL footage... but it wasn't confirmed!

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Reissue
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:02pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:40am:

LOL I like it hahaha can't believe there's market for all those things, in fact if I had the money I would buy them all!!

:wtf3

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Super Deluxe
Post by Gazza on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:20pm

Pdog wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 3:41pm:

Gazza wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:04am:

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:29am:

That was posted somewhere, that DVD would have SNL footage... but it wasn't confirmed!

Yet again, about 70% of the price of this edition is for a little book, - which would probably be worth about a fifth of what youre paying for it if it was being sold separately.

Title: Re: 'Some Girls' Reissue
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:35pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:40am:

I'll take the Best Buy version....Thank you very much. :paristhong

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:30pm

I need an XL shirt, I'm ripped.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 6:03am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:30pm:

I need an XL shirt, I'm ripped.

Zactly. Who the hell wears Large shirts?
I may have when I was 11.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:23am

'So Young' now available on amazon.co.uk as a free mp3 download until November 21st.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/So-Young/dp/B0060CZD5Y/ref=amb_link_161760647_4?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=0QAJH901BM23025ZJDBE&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=260768467&pf_rd_i=rolling%20stones%20some%20girls

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:32am

Gazza wrote on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:23am:

Gaz,
can you help us Yanks out, we are restricted. Any chance you might Yousendit or Dropbox ect. the Mp3 for us?
TIA,
Pdog and anyone else who wants this now!!!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 10:45am

Dont have an account, but will try and do it later...failing that, I could easily e-mail it, I'm sure.

I would imagine this wont be a UK exclusive, though.

Edit - just sent it to your gmail account. Feel free to share it.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 3:29pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 10:45am:

got it thanks... anyone want it, just email, pm, twitter, facebook, text, fax, call, carrier pigeon me, and I will get you the mp3....

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by nankerphelge on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 6:37pm

"XL T-shirt Packaged in Hairspray Can"

I saw the hairspray can!
Holds a Tshirt eh??

Howe handy. :smoking

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 3:23pm

I got 3 msgs, but one of you forgot to add your email addy, I think it was SCL... shoot another PM with it, you get an Mp3 from Gazza!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 1:17pm

I will not be conned into purchasing any 'Super-Deluxe' Rolling Stones products again! My £150.00 Exile purchase is just gathering dust and the remastered Exile CD hasn't evan been played - nothing with the Virgin master.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Pdog on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 2:42pm

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 1:17pm:

how were you conned? I just got the single bonus disc version myself... and downloaded the Japan bonus track... I find I like the Virgin pressing the best too...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Steel Wheels on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 3:36pm

So far I enjoy the 2010 vinyl pressing the best.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 1:55pm

From the new issue of 'Rolling Stone'.

A big thanks to JJackFl on IORR for scanning it.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by The Wick on Nov 13^th, 2011 at 12:40am

New interviews from the Observer. Keith from his house in LA apparently. Honestly, do these people ever bother checking these things:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/nov/13/rolling-stones-some-girls-interview

Ronnie Wood, wizen-faced survivor of rock'n'roll excess, is sipping daintily on a glass of coconut water. "Love it, 100%," he says, his leg jiggling with enthusiasm so that the ice cubes in the white liquid clink as he talks. "Little taste of holiday, right there." Wood laughs throatily. "I drink so much coffee, this helps balance me out."

When a Rolling Stone admits that coffee is his greatest vice, you know times have changed. During his time as guitarist for the band, Wood estimates he's burned through £20m on drugs and alcohol. His bandmates didn't think this was particularly exceptional. Keith Richards, after all, used to indulge in speedballs of cocaine and heroin with such regularity that he cheerily referred to the toxic cocktail as "the breakfast of champions".

But nowadays things are rather different. The Stones have all grown up – Wood, at 64, is the youngest in the band; drummer Charlie Watts the eldest at 70 – and, despite hovering perilously around retirement age, they are still working. This month sees the release of a re-mastered version of their hit 1978 album Some Girls, including new tracks unearthed from the archives by producer Don Was. The expanded album will also feature a previously unseen Helmut Newton photo session from the time, depicting the band in a series of moody rock'n'roll poses – all cheekbones and pouty insouciance.

Today, when I meet Wood in the upholstered plushness of a central London hotel, he looks essentially the same as he did three decades ago – a bit more weather-beaten, perhaps, but still sporting an identical Worzel Gummidge hairstyle and spray-on skinny jeans that seem to have been beamed in directly from the 1970s. Does it feel surreal looking back to those photographs now?

"Yeah," he says. "It doesn't seem like it's been all those years. What is it, 30?"

Thirty-three.

He gapes in mock horror. "The 80s only seem like yesterday to me. The 90s went so fast. Before you know it, time has flown by."

In their time as the world's most famous rock band, the Rolling Stones have sold more than 200m albums and released eight number one singles. When they took to the road to promote their 2005 A Bigger Bang album, it became the highest-grossing tour of all time (since bettered by U2's 360˚ tour of 2009-11) – at one concert alone, on Copacabana beach, 1.5 million people turned up to watch them live.

As a band, they have swaggered their way through the decades: a multi-headed, hard-partying, hard-living, rock'n'roll beast that hoovered up drugs, bedded glamorous women and all the while managed to produce some of the finest popular music of the 20th century, including "Wild Horses", "Jumpin' Jack Flash", "Gimme Shelter", "Brown Sugar", "Satisfaction", "Paint it Black" and "Sympathy for the Devil". And they're still going.

"In a way, they are the template for every rock band that's come along in the last 40 years," says Philip Norman, the author of a biography of the Rolling Stones and one of Mick Jagger, which is coming out next year. "It seems very weird they've lasted so long because for years and years, all through the 60s, they were the most unstable of any band out there. I think their longevity is due to this incredible image that was given to them, of being wicked, of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. It's extraordinary that it's stuck… These men are now getting on for 70 and they're still exciting for terribly young kids. They are the first old white musicians ever to be cool."

But arguably the Stones' greatest achievement is the simple fact of their survival. Next year, the band marks its 50th anniversary, a feat of longevity that seems all the more remarkable in the face of their seemingly hell-bent desire to kill themselves. Keith Richards, for one, only gave up cocaine in 2006 after falling out of a tree in Fiji and undergoing surgery for a blood clot on his brain. When I speak to him over the phone from his home in Los Angeles, the 67-year-old is sanguine about cleaning up his act.

"Everybody's got to grow up eventually," Richards says in a dry voice that sounds oddly like Bill Nighy's impersonation of an ageing rock star in the film Love Actually. "All of my stuff, I considered it all an experiment that went on too long." Does he miss the drugs? "No, darling. Once you've sniffed it, you've sniffed it."

At 68, Mick Jagger, to whom I also speak over the phone, is less forthcoming. Does he have any regrets? "You're not honestly asking that question, are you?" he says, snorting. "I can't possibly answer that."

Back in the hotel room, drinking his coconut water, Wood gives an impish grin when I ask if he feels like a survivor. "Yeah, definitely," he says, nodding his head vigorously. "Yeah, I've seen all the people dropping like flies over the years and it makes me realise how lucky I am."

The re-release of Some Girls is especially poignant for Wood because the album marked the first time he was officially recognised as a member of the band – "I felt I was finally home," he says. Although the Rolling Stones were formed in 1962 by Jagger and Richards (who were at primary school together), they have, like a particularly prolonged game of consequences, undergone a series of personnel changes over the years. Guitarist Brian Jones, one of the original lineup, drowned in his swimming pool in 1969. Mick Taylor took his place, before eventually being replaced by Wood, while bassist Bill Wyman retired from the Stones in 1992.

Before the release of Some Girls, the band was undergoing something of an identity crisis. The freewheeling optimism of the 1960s had given way to the drug-addled reality of the 1970s and they were battered and bruised from 16 years on the road. There had been the notorious Redlands bust in 1967, after which Jagger and Richards had been jailed for possession of cannabis and amphetamines, famously prompting William Rees-Mogg to ask: "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" in a Times editorial. Two years later, during a Stones performance at a rock concert in Altamont, California, an 18-year-old fan was murdered by a group of Hell's Angels.

Then, just as the band were about to start recording in early 1977, Richards was arrested for heroin possession in Toronto, where the Stones had been touring, leading to the very real possibility that he might be sent to jail for years and the album would never be made.

"Oh yeah, I was under several indictments dotted all over the globe," says Richards with customary laconicism when reminded of this. "But that was just my day-to-day life."

When I meet Charlie Watts, he remembers it as being a "pretty serious" situation. To complicate matters, Wood was simultaneously having an affair with Margaret Trudeau, wife of the then Canadian prime minister. "It was a bit worrying," says Watts, a thoughtful wrinkle appearing on his brow.

In the end, Richards got away with a light sentence in return for promising to perform a charity show for the Canadian National Institute of the Blind (which took place in 1979). Partly in celebration at this second lease of life and newfound charitable impulse, Richards reinstated the "s" at the end of his surname, which had disappeared after a former manager deemed it wasn't rock'n'roll enough.

"I just thought, you know, I'm not Cliff Richard, and that's for sure," says Richards with a guttural laugh. Down the crackly phone line, it sounds like sandpaper being scraped against a pebbledash wall.

With Richards a free man once more, the band traipsed off in varying states of health and sobriety to Paris to record the album in a small studio in Boulogne-Billancourt. According to Jagger, the fact that they were all living and working together over a sustained period meant that "one of the good things about the record is this unity – it was all done in Paris in a relatively short space of time. There were a lot of Keith problems but once we were in there, it was pretty concentrated."

There was also a sense in which the Rolling Stones wanted to prove they were still relevant. At the time, their brand of rhythm-and-blues soul music was in danger of seeming outdated in comparison with the raw, stripped-back anger of punk or the frenetic energy of disco.

"The punks had given us a kick up the ass," says Richards. "Or let's say 'arse' as it's England. It felt like we'd been sitting on our laurels for a couple of years. There'd been the Sex Pistols, the punk movement. We wanted to strip the band down so there weren't a lot of horns or extra musicians… We decided to keep it strictly guitar."

The result was a series of songs marked by thumping guitar riffs and a moody dance beat, the most famous of which – "Miss You" – reached number one in America. The album went six times platinum in the US and garnered an extremely positive critical response.

In fact, the Some Girls tour in 1978 produced some of the most electrifying live performances of the Stones' careers – a DVD featuring unseen footage of the band playing a tour date in Fort Worth, Texas, will be released later this month and shows Jagger at the top of his game, strutting across the stage like a demented cockerel.

"I started off thinking about what being a performer meant when I was about 16," says Jagger when I ask him about the tour. "I hope I'm not being immodest, but I realised I would go out and do it, and the more people seemed to like it the more I seemed to do stupid things and dance. You sort of realise that's your fate and you develop it."

Does he think he's a good dancer?

"Not really. I do my best but really it's about song interpretation, being the character of the song…It's about keeping the audience enthused, keeping them involved. They don't come to see a dancer par excellence."

The album had its quieter moments too, most in evidence on the bluesy "Beast of Burden". Richards has, in the past, said he wrote the track as an apologetic acknowledgement of all the difficulties his drug problems had caused Mick Jagger.

"Actually, if anything, I was trying to say sorry to Mick for passing on the weight of running this band," Richards says now. "We were at the stage where we were getting bigger. The whole music business was getting bigger, and I was basically trying to say to Mick: 'You don't have to do it on your own.'"

Did Jagger listen? Richards erupts. "No. He very rarely does. That's why I love him."

Apart from the music, the partying and the trail of beautiful women, perhaps the most fundamental reason for the enduring public fascination with the Rolling Stones is the friction surrounding its central creative partnership. Jagger and Richards seem forever locked in an epic battle between love and hate, admiration and mistrust, that has twisted and turned throughout the last half century like the rock'n'roll equivalent of the naked wrestling scene in Women in Love.

Is it, I ask Richards, a bit like working with your brother? "No, it's like working with Maria Callas," he shoots back. "The diva is right and we've got to try and put music together without annoying the diva. If the diva gets too annoyed, then I get pissed off. Do you think when we get together we're all like happy families? Forget about it. We've been fighting cats and dogs all our career.

"We're like brothers in that sometimes we love each other and sometimes we hate each other and sometimes we don't even care. I've been playing guitar, watching that bum [dance in front of me] for years."

Relations between the two, always fractious, probably weren't helped by the publication last year of Richards's rollicking autobiography, Life, in which he claimed – among other things – that Jagger was "unbearable" and in possession of "a tiny todger… he's got an enormous pair of balls – but it doesn't quite fill the gap".

I have been told by the PR that I'm not allowed to ask about "big and small willies", which is the only time genitalia size has been listed as a verboten topic in any interview I've ever done. Still, how are things with Mick now?

"Oh fine," says Richards. "We're OK."

"We don't squabble very much to be honest," Jagger says.

I don't have the balls to ask Jagger about… well… the balls, given that he can barely conceal his disdain for some of my questions. When I have the temerity to ask him about how he squared his anti-establishment reputation with accepting a knighthood in 2003, Jagger replies: "It's a bit old hat as a question, if you don't mind me saying. It was quite a long time ago. I think if you're offered these things, if you refuse it's almost like a parody of being a rebel in a way. If you insist on using your title, then it's really silly. It's almost, in our sort of society, rude to turn things down and silly to take them seriously. As Confucius said: 'All honours are false.'"

Is there any other rock star on the planet who could get away with quoting Confucius? Probably not. Somewhere, on the other side of the Atlantic, Keith Richards is probably rolling his eyes.

The unpredictable dynamic between Richards and Jagger means that, like the children of perpetually squabbling parents, Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts have tended to get caught in the middle. Thirty-three years on from the release of Some Girls, they both have different approaches for dealing with the fall-outs. Watts, who has been married for 47 years and doesn't consider himself a rock star, retreats to his wife Shirley's stud farm in Devon when things get too heated.

"I've never been enamoured of rock'n'roll," he says, smoothing down the trouser legs of his impeccably cut three-piece suit. "I mean, I love going on stage and people clapping but I never believed anything outside that." There is a long pause. "It felt a bit minor to me, the whole thing. It's never impressed me that much."

Wood, by contrast, is frequently cast as peacemaker. "I can't see people angry or holding something against each other," Wood says. "I have to bring it out in the open and say: 'You've got to patch this up, you guys.'"

Like all of them, Wood's dedication to the band and the lifestyle it embodied has come at some personal cost. In 2008, he left his second wife, Jo, generally seen as a stabilising influence, for a Russian cocktail waitress called Ekaterina Ivanova. Their four children were devastated by the split. Wood began drinking again and was arrested a year later after witnesses claimed he tried to throttle his girlfriend during a drunken row in the street. He went into rehab for the eighth time and has now been sober for almost two years.

"I became an annoying kind of drunk," Wood recalls. "I annoyed myself and it wasn't working any more… I thought, 'This is not me, this is horrible.'

"I would have long times – months – of sobriety and then say, 'I've got it, I can have a drink now, I can have a drug now' and it would all explode and go terribly wrong… I'm still learning from my mistakes and I'm determined I'll never do anything stupid like that again."

Does he feel his age? "No, I think that's something that saves me. I still feel 29. Maybe I should act my age more, but I just can't."

These days, Wood is contentedly single (after a brief relationship with Brazilian model Ana Araújo) and concentrating on his art – a solo show of his charcoal portraits and oil paintings opened earlier this month. Watts, meanwhile, is much in demand as a jazz drummer after having survived a battle with throat cancer seven years ago. Jagger has formed a new band, SuperHeavy, with singer Joss Stone and Eurythmics founder Dave Stewart, and continues to produce films through his own production company. Richards, the former hellraiser-in-chief, is married to former model Patti Hansen with whom he has two daughters. Nowadays, Richards tells me: "The best drug is breathing." Pause. "I mean, heroin is fantastic. Until you've had too much of it and then you're likely to be dead."

But despite the fact that they are all happily settled and doing their own thing, there is an undeniable frisson when the question of a Rolling Stones reunion is mooted, as if none of them can quite let go of the excitement that comes from being in the band.

Wood says he's having a long overdue operation next month to fix a cracked bone in his foot "so I'm ready for action next year just in case". In case of a tour? "Fifty years!" he shrieks. "It's got to be done."

Watts is, characteristically, more circumspect. "I would like to think we'd do a tour. Um, if we don't, we don't. I mean, I've felt like that for the last 50 years. It's never bothered me if the Rolling Stones stopped tomorrow."

Jagger gives me predictably short shrift. "I've no idea," he sniffs. "We don't really get together that much as a group."

And what about Richards? Can he envisage a reunion tour? "Envisage?" he guffaws. "Yeah. I dream of it."

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Gazza on Nov 13^th, 2011 at 7:57am

ahh..sorry, Wick, I re-posted the same interview in a seperate thread without seeing yours first.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:54am

Ronnie has two new shows up, both with guest hosts
Kelly Jones
Alice Cooper

The show with Coop has as song # 11-Claudine!
http://www.ronniewoodradio.com/2011/11/show-81/
Wicked Pissah!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Bob Tamp on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 6:52pm

Just listened to Claudine on Ronnie's show. Sounds pretty much untouched. YOu can also listen to "I love you too much" in full at ultimateclassicrock.com

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 6:58pm

Thanks Bob!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Mel Belli on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:44pm

Love You Too Much sounded damn good...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:42pm

Bob Tamp wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 6:52pm:

Just listened to Claudine on Ronnie's show. Sounds pretty much untouched. YOu can also listen to "I love you too much" in full at ultimateclassicrock.com

LISTEN " 'cause I love you too much" here http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-i-love-you-too-much-song-review/ go to the bottom

ROLLING STONES, ‘I LOVE YOU TOO MUCH’ – SONG REVIEW
by: Billy Dukes 9 hours ago

Universal Music Group

‘I Love You Too Much’ is one of 12 unreleased songs on the Rolling Stones‘ upcoming reissue of ‘Some Girls.’ The stripped down pop-rocker, much like ‘No Spare Parts,’ the first song released from this collection, was recorded without vocals over three decades ago, with Mick Jagger recently going back in studio to tie up loose ends for this project.

The novelty of unreleased material is enough to push Stones fans into buying this two-disc set when it’s available next week, but it’s immediately clear why this Jagger and Keith Richards written song was scrapped in favor of cuts like ‘Miss You,’ ‘Beast of Burden’ and ‘Shattered.’ ‘I Love You Too Much’ is by comparison flat and uninteresting.

“‘Cause I love too much / I can’t help it if I love you too much / You got me dizzy like a martini lunch / I can’t help it if I love you / I can’t help it if I love you,” Jagger sings during the second chorus. It’s the performance of a man singing because he has to, not because he wants to.

“You call it morbid fascination / I call it nasty education / Friends of mine, they all snicker and sneer / Their all laughin’ while I cry in my beer / I never give in / I get discouraged but I never give in.” There’s one forgettable guitar solo after the second chorus but aside from the introduction, none of the six-string magic Richards and Ronnie Wood were famous for.

The song begins to shed it’s burdensome pop production towards the end with Jagger rifling through a series of unintelligible but enjoyable lyrics. It’s too late to save a sorrowfully average song, but enough to leave one optimistic about the next cut on the deluxe edition CD.

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by steel driving hammer on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:14am

By Geoff Boucher, Los Angeles Times
November 15, 2011

These are days of unfinished business for the Rolling Stones as they continue to mine their vault for "lost" material — a fascinating cache of unreleased tracks from the 1977-1978 "Some Girls" sessions arrives in stores next week — and gather their dark powers for their 50th anniversary next year and perhaps another tour.

Lead singer Mick Jagger chuckled when asked about the advice he would give himself as the band sizes up the golden anniversary and its possibilities.

"You can't be too impressed, I think," Jagger said. "You could wallow in nostalgia if you wanted, couldn't you? I don't think that'd be the right attitude. There are a lot of ideas and things to do, some of them sound interesting, some of them sound possible and some of them sound difficult and some sound outright schmaltzy, to be honest. I don't really know what's going to exactly happen — but I'm working on it."

The Stones, of course, have been working on something ever since the JFK administration. The band defies the laws of time, human endurance and pop-culture physics, but it remains a spiky alliance, especially after the publication of "Life," the Keith Richards memoir that got its harshest critique ("a bit bitchy," "tedious") from a frenemy named Jagger.

"It was the only bad review we got," the guitar hero rasped with delight last week, two days after he and coauthor James Fox won the Norman Mailer award for their bestselling memoir. "Ah, what can you do?"

Jagger and Richards sometimes seem a bit like an old married couple who stand together only for family photos and then do so only with thin, hard smiles. But, in separate phone interviews, both are clearly enthused about the release of a tricked-out archival edition of "Some Girls." Although the June 1978 album sparked some controversy over a lewd line about black women in the title track, "Some Girls" was praised by critics and is considered among the group's best albums from the 1970s. It includes the hits "Beast of Burden," "Shattered" and "Miss You."

A concert film, "Some Girls Live in Texas '78" will also be released next Tuesday on DVD and Blu-ray as a tie-in to the newly remastered album, which will be available in different editions (there's a $20 two-disc deluxe edition and also a lavish $143 boxed-set version that includes a hard-cover book, a DVD and vinyl single) and features a dozen previously unreleased songs.

Those tracks were in various stages of completion and polish, and Jagger, Richards and company said it's been a curious and inspiring exercise to fill in the blanks all these years later.

"It was an interesting autumn kind of project for me," Jagger said, adding that he was prepared for the labors by the 2010 release of "Exile on Main Street" with a similar bundle of salvaged tracks. "I learned quite a lot from doing the tracks on 'Exile' about how you do this without it being too much psychological damage.... The 'Exile' ones seemed really quite old and even though this is just seven years later it was just more immediate to me in some ways. This album was so much of a piece while 'Exile' was recorded over such a period of time, over maybe three years and different sessions."

"Some Girls" and these new unreleased additions reveal a band that sees the music landscape changing beneath the rhythm logic of disco and ethos assault of punk. On a more personal front, the "Some Girls" sessions marked the full arrival of Ronnie Wood as a band member and there was still anxiety in the air about the legal status and lifestyle of Richards, who was coming off a heroin arrest in Toronto.

"Going back to the music, it immediately transports me back in time; it's like, 'Beam me up, Scotty,'" Richards said. "When I'm listening to it I can see the room where we are, I can smell it. It was the last album I did on the stuff.... The interesting thing about making that album was we felt an enormous kick … from the punks. There suddenly was this other generation coming on and they couldn't play for [anything] but they were kicking [butt]. 'Some Girls' was the response because we had been cruising before that I think."

Some of the recovered and refurbished tracks were close to finished — like the Chuck Berry-informed "Claudine" and the leering "So Young" — but just didn't make the cut when the "Some Girls" deadline approached. Others, like "Do You Think I Really Care?" required a sort of throw-back mentality to finish.

"It was sort of half done and I had to sort of get back into the mood of the song," Jagger said. "It was a bit repetitive, I had done two verses but I needed five."

Richards said he enjoys hearing the varied genre paths the band was following in the 1970s and the echoes of Hank Williams and Gram Parsons tucked into the time capsule.

"Part of Mick and me is we always loved country music," Richards said, "And I mean, 'Dead Flowers'? Mick has written some of the best country songs of all time. It's part of what we grew up with and what we love. It just comes from the heart, not from the mind."

Don Was, the Grammy-winning record producer who has worked with Bob Dylan, Lucinda Williams and Elton John, has been a key figure in the Stones' archaeology missions. He was the point man on the exhaustive "Exile" project (there were hundreds of hours of material) and, for the "Some Girls" salvage efforts, came across "No Spare Parts," an artifact deemed so notable that it was released last month as a single.

Was said that in a way the Stones are somehow underrated still and he has no interest in listening to the criticism that any rebel outfit has overstayed its welcome when there are 50 candles on the cake.

"They are right up there with Duke Ellington's band and the Miles Davis quintet from the 1960s as one of the greatest aggregations of musicians ever put together," Was said. "And watching Mick and Keith through the years — when they get along and when they don't get along — is like a morality play. When you hear the music all the other stuff evaporates. When the tape is rolling or they are on stage, there's a closeness there that transcends everything else. And I think they should keep pushing toward that 75th anniversary."

But first, there's the 50th anniversary. Richards, Wood and drummer Charlie Watts are scheduled to gather later this month in London to rehearse for the first time in three years, a clear signal that the Stones are ramping up in some fashion.

"The Stones still work," said Richards. "I know [the prospect of a tour] it's an all important point but there's nothing more I'm going to say about that. But the Stones will pull it together. It always comes easy once you get the bunch of guys together. It's the getting the guys together that's the hard part."

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:53am

I'm not yearning for the cd per se. But I do long for the dvd.

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 12:35pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

I'm not yearning for the cd per se. But I do long for the dvd.

Just the opposite tater. Gimmie the Cd. Actually wish they would have had a soundtrack cd for the movie.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 12:59pm

next weekend I will be buying the Deluxe Blu Ray for sure... not sure about SG dlx yet... I guess if I get the tee shirt offer at best buy and it's under twent bux, I won't pass it up. If I see something like the bonus disc only version, like last years Exile, I'll just get that, since I know the mastering on the old album will be a let down...

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Post by Mel Belli on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:12pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 12:35pm:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

I'm not yearning for the cd per se. But I do long for the dvd.

Just the opposite tater. Gimmie the Cd. Actually wish they would have had a soundtrack cd for the movie.

Doesn't look like the "Texas" CD is available as a stand-alone, but there will be a soundtrack:
http://www.amazon.com/Some-Girls-Texas-Blu-Ray-Combo/dp/B005OZ4GUG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1321395120&sr=8-4

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Post by Pdog on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:26pm

Mel Belli wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 12:35pm:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

I'm not yearning for the cd per se. But I do long for the dvd.

Just the opposite tater. Gimmie the Cd. Actually wish they would have had a soundtrack cd for the movie.

That's what i'm getting, can't wait to crank that bad boy through the home theater.

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Post by CS on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

Visit The Rolling Stones official Facebook page at 6pm GMT (1pm EST) on 17/11/2011 to hear 8 full tracks from the forthcoming fully remastered reissue of ‘Some Girls’, including the classic hits ‘Miss You’ & ’Beast of Burden’ and four previously unreleased tracks.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=115822528531042

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:14pm

CS wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

I just posted the battle cry of Rocks Off on the FB page.
Just to let 'em know who's boss...
ROCKS OFF RULES YOU BASTARDS!

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Post by dadrob on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

On FB anyway the record sounds fucking brilliant!

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 2:11pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:14pm:

CS wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

I just posted the battle cry of Rocks Off on the FB page.
Just to let 'em know who's boss...
ROCKS OFF RULES YOU BASTARDS!

Like :willya

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 2:11pm

Don't Be A Stranger is off the charts Wicked Pissah!

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Post by SoulPlunderer on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 4:58pm

http://somegirls.heroku.com/

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Post by Gazza on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:29pm

SoulPlunderer wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 4:58pm:

http://somegirls.heroku.com/

Fuck. I'm trying to listen to Brussels and this at the same time. I cant take all this in one day.

I'm headin' for an overload.

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Post by Gazza on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:32pm

Johnnie Walker's
Sounds Of The 70s

Sunday 1500 - 1700
BBC Radio 2

Johnnie Walker celebrates the music of a colourful and eclectic decade. This week he catches up with Ronnie Wood and Charlie Watts, of The Rolling Stones, as they re-release their 1978 album Some Girls.

Having sold over six million copies and becoming their biggest selling album in the US, Some Girls represented a shift in the musical direction of the Stones. The first album to feature Ronnie Wood as a full member of the band, his guitar playing meshed with Keith Richards to give the band a whole new sound and direction. Johnnie finds out from Ronnie and Charlie exactly what the recording of the album was like in a time of change and development for the band.

On the eve of Some Girls' re-release, Johnnie discovers what made it such a seminal album for the band and why it continues to be one of their most loved albums.

Listen live : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0176wjt

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Post by Pdog on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 6:28pm

i get to spend the next week listening to an offical live 1973 release while waiting for this some girls release...

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Post by SoulPlunderer on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 6:32pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:29pm:

SoulPlunderer wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 4:58pm:

http://somegirls.heroku.com/

Fuck. I'm trying to listen to Brussels and this at the same time. I cant take all this in one day.

I'm headin' for an overload.

Heading for an overload? Well as long as you get your Rocks Off...

This is like waiting on a bus. You stand around for ages and then two or three come at once.

Unfortunately, I'm completely skint at the moment so I haven't got Brussels yet. This will certainly do in the meantime though! Mick is sounding very good despite some reservations about his 2011 overdubs. I'm loving No Spare Parts.

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Post by exile on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:04pm

Im not sure if this has been reported but ALL of the new tracks are avaiblr for download on iTunes
at least here in Australia. I just downloaded the lot

go to Some Girls (Deluxe Version)

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Post by Pdog on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:39pm

exile wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:04pm:

Im not sure if this has been reported but ALL of the new tracks are avaiblr for download on iTunes
at least here in Australia. I just downloaded the lot

go to Some Girls (Deluxe Version)

juust as a pre-order here, for 17.99, avaialble on the 21st... I'd love to bite and buy it, but would feel suckered if I just gotta wait... I might see an illegal download before then...

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Post by exile on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:54pm

Yeah I'm not sure if it's an error but has a realease date of nov 18th
So I Just downloaded all the new tracks

Claudine
So young
Do you think I really
When you're gone
No spare parts
Don't be a stranger
We had it all
Tallahassee lassie
I love you too much
Keep up blues
You win again
Petrol blues

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Post by Pdog on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:19pm

exile wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 7:54pm:

a lucky dog, you are!!!

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Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 9:00pm

Is the outtakes disc going to be available separately like they did on exile release, if so where?

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:23pm

...and the bonus track for the Japanese version is

So Young (Piano Version)

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 5:33am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

...and the bonus track for the Japanese version is

So Young (Piano Version)

And then the depression hit.

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Post by Teiz on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 4:34pm

Picked up the Deluxe edition. Great art direction on the book, but more importantly: I'm spinning the extra disc with a grin...this is a lot of fun. To soon for a song by song review - I'm currently giving it the second spin - but IMO opening the vaults is the best decision since the invention of the b-stage.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 8:05pm

Teiz wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 4:34pm:

I thought the lotus stage, inflatable penis and cock dance were the pinnacle....

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Post by MRD8 on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:20am

Pdog,
Here's the link to the deluxe edition on Demonoid:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2785031/1715469/

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Post by Pdog on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:54am

MRD8 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:20am:

Pdog,
Here's the link to the deluxe edition on Demonoid:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2785031/1715469/

thanks, just checked this am, then saw your post... I had to use it to get the flacs for Brussels... I bought the mp3's... this weekend is going to have a great soundtrack... funny how I'm quick to complain... ready to load my gym iPod, and put exile bonus, got Brussels, going to put SG dlx on it, and realized, I don't have the live in texas audio disc yet, which I know already will blow away the old bootlegs, just like Brussels has...
good time to be a Stones fan.

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Post by MRD8 on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:04am

It's funny how excited I've been as the Some Girls release date grew closer and closer...then they release Brussels Affair on Wednesday and it moved Some Girls to the back burner!:) I hope all the archival releases are the same quality as this one, mastered by Bob Clearmountain!

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Post by Pdog on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:09am

MRD8 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:04am:

I have to agree 100% on the mastering... The guy, whose name I foget, who has been mastering the studio UMG stuff... isn't any good. I'll let masters and audiophiles who go intotechnical epth have the deep discussions on Hoffmans forum on the Brussels mastering, but to my ears... it is damn good... not top tier audiophile standards, but pretty damn good... doesn't sound limited or brickwalled, I didn't have clipping... but I neeed to blast it in the car...

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:53am

After 14 pages of posts...I have forgotten and don't feel like swiming thru it all...

...the Original SG on the 21st...is it a BRAND NEW (yet another) remastering?

Or is it the same as the UMG from a few years back?

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Post by MRD8 on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:27am

Pdog,
Put the Brussels CD in the bluray player on your home theater, a lot of people haven't found out how great a bluray player works with CD's!

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Post by Pdog on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:53am

MRD8 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:27am:

Pdog,
Put the Brussels CD in the bluray player on your home theater, a lot of people haven't found out how great a bluray player works with CD's!

mine isn't just a blu ray player... it's a PS3, the one made to play SACD's... which I've been told has been cracked and someone found a way to extract SACD audio too... it has gotten so complicated in my set up. I have 4 sources for music. CD/SACD player, PS3, iPod dock and computer with external HD all to my amplifier... then I also have a home theater that I can run music from PS3 into those speakers... which are pretty damn good speakers, the sub woofer helps... I know how much better my DVD's play in the blu ray, the clarity and sound is much improved over and DVD palyer I own, even a DVD player with an HDMI cable... Blu Ray decodes so well... I will try iy out, since I only used it for SACD's, and when I did an a/b comparison between PS3 and my SACD player, the quality was high, and it was alot easier using the SACD player too... so complicated...

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Post by macdaddy on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 9:10am

imo, the sacd reissues are the best sounding of the bunch. The recent 180g vinyl is close (and, again my opinion), and it is the best reissue/remaster of the rs records catalog. I hope they do sacds of the latter material, but I doubt it. I still think the beggars sacd was the biggest revelation of 'em all.

Having said that, I can't wait to get a listen to the new some girls set (and the Brussels eventually, too)

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Post by MRD8 on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 11:00am

I see a lot of SACD's on Demonoid...are they real or redone like some 5.1 and quad mixes?

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 1:38pm

WE HAD IT ALL = AMAZING!!!!

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Post by Pdog on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 2:08pm

1/2 way into bonus disc now, I'm moist!

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Post by Gazza on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 2:55pm

Pretty fuckin' cool ad for the Some Girls reissue on Sky News just now.

Great to see.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:04pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

Pretty fuckin' cool ad for the Some Girls reissue on Sky News just now.

Great to see.

just in case, check your email...
anyone who wants to preview the bonus disc, hit me up with a PM... mp3 at 320 via dropbox, just pm with email. No questions asked, no tech support on my end, it's real simple. a few of you have already been sent invites... have a great weekend, and I know you will be buying this, so i'm ok sharing...

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Post by riffkeither on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:07pm

just listen to the whole thing , Stones got their Stray Cats sound, CD2 is a good Rockabilly one !

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:25pm

Pdog wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:04pm:

Gazza wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

Pretty fuckin' cool ad for the Some Girls reissue on Sky News just now.

Great to see.

Thanks Pdog :keithpunky

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:42pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

Pretty fuckin' cool ad for the Some Girls reissue on Sky News just now.

Great to see.

Super Cool, that!!
I remember the TV ads in NY for Tattoo You as well as Sucking In the 70's.

The last album commercial I recall is for Dylan's Infidels

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:52pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:

It is still there... ;D ;D ;D ;D

:solongsucker

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Post by dadrob on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:57pm

When You Are Gone is the song RED EYES from Ronnie's 1234 with added vocals.......the tweaks on the old stuff sicken me. CHEAPNESS

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Post by Teiz on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 4:13pm

Funny...I don't hear cheapness at all. I think you look at the material in a wrong way: it was around for more than 30 years. It's good enough for others to have fun with, lets say a band member doing a solo disc. But in 2011, after seeing people having fun because of the bonus stuff on the Exile reissue (and making extra money, but that's fair), the Stones decide to dust off the leftovers from one of the other great albums, and upgrade the half finished stuff with added vocals and whatnot. I would've loved the super set to have an extra disc with the raw material, but I have most from the boots.

Why can a writer revisit a manuscript he didn't touch for 30 years, or turn an old short story into a monumental big novel without dealing with being accused of cheapness?

Bottom line: if it bothers you much, don't buy the record. It's what I did with Supershitty.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 5:42pm

SPOILER WARNING...I will probably continue to post random thoughts as I listen over and over...

re: No Spare Parts...

When it was released a few weeks back...I thought it was "just ok"...a good song...but certainly not "a single".

I still feel that way about the "single" part...but it sounds REALLY nice in the middle of the rest of the songs...even the drum thing at 3:34 (lol).
It showcases another side of the band in the middle of all the other rockers.
I noticed no reggae ala Stones...Don't Be a Stranger is kinda close and has a tropical feeling

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Post by Gazza on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 10:14am

Gazza wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 5:32pm:

Bump

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_two

Charlie & Ronnie on in a few minutes...

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Post by Mel Belli on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 11:04am

These extra tracks are good, people. I like it even better than the "Exile" stuff.

Maybe it's personal bias, but the "Some Girls" sound was the reason I became obsessed with the band. In middle school, in the late-'80s, I heard all the "Hot Rocks" stuff, liked it, preferred it to the Beatles, etc. "Some Girls" was the first long-player I bought (on cassette!). My immediate (in retrospect juvenile) impression was that the Stones sounded "modern"; they didn't sound like the "the '60s." The older I got, the more I came to appreciate the '60s (and the '50s and the '40s, etc.)

But, as a kid, it was "Some Girls" that made the Stones accessible and worthy of real-time fanaticism.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 11:50am

Mel...if there was a "LIKE" button...I would press it now!!!

I find it interesting...that out of the bonus songs...there is not another "Miss You"esque song.
To get that 70's sound, they put out MISS YOU...but not another one like it...IMO...
and i don't include, "Disco Music"...which is somehow a joke to me...as if they would
ever release a song called that or praising/mocking Disco...

Am I mistaken?

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 12:19pm

Brussels,Some Girls Deluxe and a Springsteen tour announcement next week.....That's an unholy trinity of goodness we can believe in. :willya :weed :booze

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Post by SoulPlunderer on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 12:56pm

Ronnie interviewed today on BBC 6 Music:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b017gnph/The_Huey_Show_20_11_2011/

He's on around about the 2 hour 10 minute mark.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 1:01pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 11:50am:

Their adventures with all things funk/disco began before and went on after, at least officially... not many outtakes along the lines of these adventures...
Fingerprint File
hot Stuff
Miss You
Everything Is Turning To Gold
Dance
I think they touched on the same sound with Heaven, but in a much more subdued way... I can't think of much in outtake/demo dept. besides disco music where they wnet with this style/genre... and After Harlem Shuffle, they seemed to drift away from it, probably a sign of musical direction and the friction inside the band... there was none of it to be found on Steel Wheels, that's for sure!!!

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Post by Gazza on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 1:18pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00lzqmk

Johnnie Walker show interview now available

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Post by SoulPlunderer on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

I enjoyed the interview. Nice to get to hear Charlie speak a little.

It's strange that Mick or Keith haven't really done loads of promo for this album. They certainly haven't promoted it as strongly as they did the Exile reissue. I wonder how it will do commercially. It certainly won't touch number 1 here in the UK as Rihanna and One Direction (X-Factor boy band) have new albums out.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 3:25pm

SoulPlunderer wrote on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

Well, Mick did promote it before the Fort Worth film...in all fairness...a taped-for- live interview is pretty good.

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Post by Tumbling Dijs on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 4:03pm

I really love the new piano in "Do You Think I Really Care" and I think it's a pitty that it doesn't last 6.10 minutes as in the "Original" I prefer the new one including new vocals. Nice job Mick!

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 4:23pm

I am getting giddy! I'm all over Best Buy. Best Thanksgiving ever!

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Post by Pdog on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 4:28pm

how much promo you going to do for something like this, in the digital age, with a band with base fans, not really going to get the attention of too many new ones, at least not ones who buy music.

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Post by Soldatti on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 4:41pm

SoulPlunderer wrote on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

It won't touch the Top 20 either, too much high profile releases at the same time and the promotion was almost non-existent by comparison with Exile, maybe can grap a spot in the Top 30 with much luck, both in UK & US.

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Post by Gazza on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 6:29pm

dadrob wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

When You Are Gone is the song RED EYES from Ronnie's 1234 with added vocals.......the tweaks on the old stuff sicken me. CHEAPNESS

Not quite. 'When Youre Gone' was recorded for Some Girls - with vocals, but re-cut (and re-titled) as an instrumental by Ronnie in 1981.

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 7:24pm

Tumbling Dijs wrote on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 4:03pm:

I really love the new piano in "Do You Think I Really Care" and I think it's a pitty that it doesn't last 6.10 minutes as in the "Original" I prefer the new one including new vocals. Nice job Mick!

Big fan of that song here too and the new version is great...until Mick starts shouting, that really wasn't necessary even if I get why he's doing it and could see a video Neigbours style.

I warmed up a lot to No Spare Parts too, yeah mo real bridge (like Plundered) but it has a great vibe and I hear a bit of Gangster's Moll (as heard on The Lonely at the Top boot, not the Jagger/Beck version), a great outtake we probably won't see on a Deluxe given the poor opinion Mick has of ER and arguably lack of classics.

I Love You Too Much is great too, love the guitars and their meshing with the voices at the end of the chorus.

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Post by mojoman on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 7:50pm

tommorow nights gonna be big tater!!!

:keithpunky

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Post by Pdog on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 8:07pm

not that it's numbers will be huge, but does a digital release like this, even have a chance of being considered for charts, if it was to blow up and sell some insane amount?

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Post by Gazza on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:20am

Rolling Stones dress up 'Some Girls' for reissueBy Edna Gundersen, USA TODAYUpdated 10h 56m ago

When the Rolling Stones began jamming at a Paris rehearsal hall in October 1977, disco and punk were wrestling for cultural dominance and threatening to annihilate rock's mainstream giants.

Like every trend before and since, neither intimidated nor impeded the Stones, who surfaced in 1978 with chart-topper Some Girls, a sharp, diverse batch of rock, R&B, dance and country that won over a new generation and remains the band's best-selling album (6 million-plus).

It returns Monday as a remastered, expanded reissue in deluxe, super-deluxe and digital editions. (Some Girls Live in Texas '78, on DVD and Blu-ray, is also out Monday.) Along with classics Miss You, Shattered, Beast of Burden and Respectable, the set offers 12 previously unreleased tracks that were unearthed this year.

"Some have been out in bootleg form," says Mick Jagger, 68, who searched the vaults with producer Don Was. "There were a few surprises. Some songs were more finished and just had to be mixed. And some didn't have any lyrics or were very fragmentary. Some were too demo-sounding, and I just threw them out."

The songs that were 'left over'

In fleshing out the tunes, "we kept everything in context," says Keith Richards, 67. "You don't want to fool around too much and pretty them up with digital extras. Leave it in its own time

The Girls reissue, which follows last year's celebrated repackaging of 1972's Exile on Main Street, introduces rocker I Love You Too Much, a cover of Hank Williams' You Win Again, obscure B-side So Young, twangy No Spare Parts, harmonica-laced Keep Up Blues, Tallahassee Lassie (featuring John Fogerty) and Claudine, inspired by French chanteuse Claudine Longet, who was accused of killing her ski-champ boyfriend, Spider Sabich.

"Unlike Exile, there was a lot more left over," Richards says. "Claudine should have been on the first one, but we had deadlines."

Timing isn't the only reason songs didn't make the cut.

"In the case of the countryish ones, if you'd put them all out on Some Girls, it would have been a country album," Jagger says. "So we picked our best one, and also the one that was finished. You should finish them all, but that's not what happens. You concentrate on the 10 or 11 you've got, and the others fall by the wayside."

Miss You, a nod to the disco era, sprang from Jagger's love of dance music and the New York club scene. Richards didn't object.

"Disco is just another funk beat," he says. "None of us dreamt of making a disco album, but if you can come up with a primo disco track, that would be our input. And Miss You made it."

Not pumped about punk

As for ascendant punk rockers, who both jeered and imitated the Stones, "all they could do was be a bad copy of me," Richards says with a gruff laugh. "I loved the energy. They were coming on as strong as we did 10 years earlier. But my problem with punk, man, is they can't play. All they got is attitude and nothing else."

Jagger is similarly dismissive.

"Punk was such a short-lived phenomenon," he says. "Record labels were trying to hop on it, (but) it wasn't a big commercial success. You're hard put to name more than two American punk bands."

Girls stirred controversy for salacious lyrics and a cover that depicted the Stones in drag alongside pictures of famous women.

"Some girls weren't so happy," Richards says, referring to Lucille Ball, Raquel Welch and others whose likenesses hadn't been legally cleared, requiring a recall and redo. "We didn't ask them. We should have been more gentlemanly."

He and Jagger are game for more reissues, within reason.

"We had this idea that we'd reinvigorate certain albums by finding other songs recorded in that time that would hold up," Jagger says. "That sounded like a better idea than doing mindless compilations."

Richards adds: "If there's something interesting that helps to understand the album, let's do it. Otherwise, I'm not one to rehash stuff. We do have so much in the can. We've been around a while, you know?"

Band has 'no golden plan'
The Rolling Stones will hit their golden anniversary next year, fueling expectations for a tour. No plans for a 50th blowout have been revealed, though rumors flared when Keith Richards announced that he, Charlie Watts and Ronnie Wood intended to convene soon to jam.

"It all sounds great, and I'm sure we're going to do lots and lots of wonderful things," says Mick Jagger, who isn't participating in those sessions. "What the future may hold is known only to God and myself. I'll talk after we've done it rather than before."

Richards hopes for a 2012 return but says he and his bandmates are simply "getting our chops back together. We haven't played together for four years or so. We all happen to be in England in December. I don't want to blow it up into anything. There’s no golden plan."

Not officially, anyway.

“Nothing is supposed to be clear,” Richards allows. “It’s intended to be murky so you don’t know what the hell’s going on until we let you know.”

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Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 10:26am

Quote:

"It all sounds great, and I'm sure we're going to do lots and lots of wonderful things," says Mick Jagger, who isn't participating in those sessions. "What the future may hold is known only to God and myself. I'll talk after we've done it rather than before."

Is that what Jagger would say?

I don't recall the Big G in his syntax before...It strikes me as out of character...

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 11:49am

Yeah, sounds a bit pompous to be straight Mick.

Also it would be nice to have a half-decent interviewer who would ask them why the didn't use the rather excellent Fiji Jim and Misty Roads or It's a Lie.

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Post by steel driving hammer on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 12:16pm

Do you get a shirt with it at Best Buy?

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Post by Pdog on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 2:12pm

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 12:16pm:

Do you get a shirt with it at Best Buy?

i didn't see it out, and wasn't thinking about it at the moment... I was with my kid, he was tearing thorugh the store, it was great... I'm happy with what I got so far...

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Post by riffkeither on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 2:19pm

So young bonus one is so good !!!

Who plays Piano ? :forfucksake

What a Groove ...........

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:03pm

Same as I did with Exile, I ordered my Japanese superdeluxe edition AND as I can't wait I just bought my 2-CD set today, it was national (made in Mexico) and comes with a 24-page booklet including 10 great pictures b y Helmut Newton and the original pictures on the 1978 album too.

I'm listening once more, it is GREAT!!

This is the Mexican Edition (below is the 1977 issue of Rolling Stone with Ronnie on the cover:

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Post by Pdog on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:05pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:03pm:

unless I find it elsewhere, i will be begging you for that Japan only track for sure...

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm

Is it So Young (piano) ?

Where did you get the Japanese Version? I'd gotten the Exile version from Amazon JP, haven't checked if the have SG, not terribly easy to navigate there...

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm

You will have it Pdog; the problem is that the Japanes edition ships on December 7, 2011

:smoking

I sent the SuperHeavy bonus track to those who sent the "proof of purchase" of their regular edition

:forfucksake

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:13pm

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Is it So Young (piano) ?

Where did you get the Japanese Version? I'd gotten the Exile version from Amazon JP, haven't checked if the have SG, not terribly easy to navigate there...

The best place to get Japanese stuff is cdjapan.co.jp, the site is in English too and they deliver immediately, it takes 4 days to get your stuff here in North America, this is the link to get the Japanese edition but as I mentioned it will be shipped until December 7th

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-91799

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Post by Pdog on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:45pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm:

i'm afraid to ask the cost... I know I paid alot for Shine A Light... I agree, CDJapan is top notch... ugh! but expensive stuff for those extra songs!!!

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:52pm

John Fogerty claps with Don Was and Mick Jagger on "Tallahassee Lassie" I guess they did it this year... to add handclaps come on... hire Rocks Off regulars...

:nooslajaleisk

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:56pm

BONUS DISC IS A PLEASANT SURPRISE..STILL DONT LIKE SPARE PARTS BUT I THOUGHT THEY DID A FINE JOB ON THE OTHER TRACKS..IN PARTICULAR KEEP UP BLUES AND WHEN YOURE GONE..SO YOUNG IS NOT EXACTLY THE 94 VERSION,DEFINITELY REMIXED .THEY LEFT WE HAD IT ALL AND CLAUDINE PRETTY MUCH AS THEY WERE,THANKFULLY.
STU WOULD BE PLEASED :smilestu

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Post by Pdog on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:04pm

Bill, So Young is a new mix... we have 3 official versions of that song now... the VL b-side, the bonus disc and the japan extra track...

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:26pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:13pm:

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Is it So Young (piano) ?

Where did you get the Japanese Version? I'd gotten the Exile version from Amazon JP, haven't checked if the have SG, not terribly easy to navigate there...

Thanks, will probably break down and get it ;-)

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:29pm

Craziness surrounding this attention to So Young, enough already.
They released alternate version of ADTL in Japan, is this to say So Young
is that good? Where the hell is Fiji Jim?

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:47pm

FIJI IS THE BEST OF THIS ERA OUTTAKES,IMO...SAD OMISSION :nooslajaleisk

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:48pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:29pm:

Craziness surrounding this attention to So Young, enough already.
They released alternate version of ADTL in Japan, is this to say So Young
is that good? Where the hell is Fiji Jim?

1994 SO YOUNG IS THE BEST IN MY OPINION,IF I MAY BE SO BOLD.

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:54pm

Thanks PERKS

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 7:16pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:48pm:

Nellcote wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:29pm:

Craziness surrounding this attention to So Young, enough already.
They released alternate version of ADTL in Japan, is this to say So Young
is that good? Where the hell is Fiji Jim?

1994 SO YOUNG IS THE BEST IN MY OPINION,IF I MAY BE SO BOLD.

Zactly. One version is enough.....laziness...

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Post by Pdog on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 7:23pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:47pm:

FIJI IS THE BEST OF THIS ERA OUTTAKES,IMO...SAD OMISSION :nooslajaleisk

I hope it was unusable for official release, so they scrubbed it... otherwise... they could've released it... but... who knows what they got on the burner... seems they are listening to us, and working on getting us what we desired... and better this than nothing...

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 7:34pm

Pdog wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 7:23pm:

BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:47pm:

FIJI IS THE BEST OF THIS ERA OUTTAKES,IMO...SAD OMISSION :nooslajaleisk

When the post came along to change I tunes to the UK version & listen to the 90 sec clips, I think it's
there, right about the video of Miss You. Sounded like Chuck Leavell to me....
And, for what it's worth....we are really still getting crumbs 12 tracks including one version of one song which was available 11 years ago. Yes, the live stuff is great, however, so, so much more is there.....

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 8:55pm

nobody told me it sounded this damn good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8efz6l-qVk&feature=player_embedded
http://youtu.be/i4sP75Oq_wk

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Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 11:39pm

Funny, saucy, funny, swingy, sweet and rather lovely :spooky

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Post by MrPleasant on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 3:44am

These outtakes are loveable. They don't deserve to be called the great lost album or something; not even close --these are the Stones--. but it all comes out as a very nice time.

Also: I would like to buy some crack!

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 10:56am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 5:11pm:

You will have it Pdog; the problem is that the Japanes edition ships on December 7, 2011

:smoking

Pearl Harbor Day? :aimama

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 11:39am

I'm happy with it all and the shirt fits nicely!

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 1:09pm

Tallahassee Lassie rocks! :keithpunky

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Post by Gazza on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 2:38pm

Mick Jagger Interview: New Rolling Stones Songs and the Sexuality of 'Some Girls'

Posted on Nov 22nd 2011 3:00PM by Dan Reilly

Kevin Mazur, WireImage

The release of the deluxe edition of the Rolling Stones' 1978 album 'Some Girls' includes a smattering of outtakes that are actually new tracks, not just songs that were written but left by the wayside. As Mick Jagger tells Spinner, he actually had to go back and write new lyrics for many of the songs, including the country tune 'No Spare Parts' and the rocker 'Do You Think I Really Care.' In the following Q&A, Jagger tells us all about the reissue, its New York and disco influences, the lies and rumors about their songs and how the hit track 'When the Whip Comes Down' -- about a gay man living in the city -- surprisingly never led anyone to question his sexuality.

There are a lot of blues and country songs on the 'Some Girls' outtakes. How far along were these songs?

Yeah, there's three blues and two countries. I guess we didn't want to finish the blues or they were just sitting there. They didn't really have any lyrics or anything, the blues ones. They were in different states. Some of them were almost done, like 'So Young,' and then others were really not done at all, like 'When You've Gone' and 'Don't Be a Stranger' didn't have anything. 'Keep Up Blues,' that didn't have anything.There was a few really done. I'm talking about vocals now. 'Claudine,' that was done, more or less. 'Do You Think I Really Care' was like half done, so I had to write some verses because I just had the same verse repeated a lot. And the country song called 'No Spare Parts' had sort of an idea but was just a few words, so I had to sort of put my head down and write the song about driving from L.A. to San Antonio.

Why did you decide to do this album? It wasn't an anniversary or anything.

No, no, it wasn't an anniversary, nor was 'Exile on Main St.' I think people like the album. I didn't know if there were any outtakes for it, anything worth looking, and then I found there were a few things. I've always liked the album. It's very different from 'Exile' because it's so focused. It's 10 tracks and it doesn't have tons of horn parts or backing vocalists or anything like that. It's sort of a very group-focused piece and stripped down and to the point.

A lot of that was influenced by punk music that was getting popular at the time, right?

Not really. When you look at the original album and even if you want to look at the outtakes, it sort of is but that's an easy kind of tag you can always put on it. 'Miss You' isn't really punk and 'Far Away Eyes' isn't. 'Some Girls' is kind of a blues. It's with harmonica and slide guitar and all. It's got that kind of attitude to it but it's not that music, except in a couple of places. Those songs really didn't call for a lot of background stuff and horns and the album before this didn't really have that either. The thing about it is, just doing it after I focused in on the 'Exile' things, it's like six years' difference and it's just a different kind of vibe.

And you have 'Miss You,' which was something really different. Do you remember how much the band either accepted or resisted that track and its dance groove when you brought it in?

I don't think anyone resisted it at all, not to my knowledge. Whether they did mentally or not, I don't think anyone can really remember that. If they say they remember, they probably don't. They're probably lying [laughs]. I mean, I think Charlie [Watts] particularly loved it and Bill [Wyman] loved it because he came up with a really nice bass line. So I think that it was instantly accepted, in my view.
It was only really different as far as the rhythm section was concerned. The rest of the instrumentation is very much a kind of blues-rock instrumentation. You just play what you would play. It's just the beat that's different. It's a sloppy version of the beat of six months before in New York, and not played quite so exactly as you would have played it if you were playing in a session band doing those kind of tunes for a dance record. It's quite strict tempo, it doesn't move around, but it's got a nice loose feel to it compared to some of those records. It's very danceable and that's what we were trying to achieve there.

What was it like having Ronnie on as a full member for this album? How did it affect this recording?

Obviously, it affected it, the fact that you didn't have a revolving door of guitarists, which we probably did on the previous record, so that was a kind of like an audition. Having to deal with that was a bit dull, really. I mean, it was interesting but it was another thing you had to do.

The thing that makes this record very focused, it's a limited amount of people in the same place doing just 10 tracks and zeroing in on them. It's not two years' work in three different studios and all this sort of stuff. Songs came very quickly. You're not going to have 18 songs. You're only going to have 10, bang bang bang, and the rest you leave by the wayside and pick them up 30, 40 years later. I remember it being a very enjoyable experience because you got something at the end that was exciting.

Keith was dealing with his heroin problems at the time, especially his bust in Toronto. Did it influence the sessions at all?

I don't really remember. I don't really recall that pressure being in the studio. I think we just got on with it. In the run-up to it, it was a hassle, and I remember working on some of the songs while Keith was actually in prison or working on his defense or whatever, but I remember in the studio it didn't seem to affect anyone particularly. It was good to put it out of your mind, sort of forget it.

Was the chorus of 'Beast of Burden' written about that?

No, I don't think so. I think that's just made up [laughs loudly]. I think that's rubbish. But you know, it's so long ago. People, they like to make up stories and whatever, what you believe happened at the time. I could tell you, I could make up all sorts of stuff about how 'Far Away Eyes' was written -- it wouldn't be correct, I'm sure, but it might sound good [laughs]. But that's a really good song. It's really like a soul song, you know what I mean? I find that's a really great song to sing.

It does have that sort of emotional vibe of Sam Cooke's 'Bring It on Home.'

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a song you can kind of emote to and it's just very repetitive, around around around, so you can just do what you like to it. And then people say "it's a punk record" and I'm going [sarcastically] "Yeah, right." But the thing about this record is that it's just got that feeling, that even in 'Beast of Burden,' it's got that attitude but it's really a soul song, so that's kind of interesting.

Were you surprised that you ended up writing about New York so much even though you recorded it in France?

Obviously it was all influenced by New York feeling and the French never got ... there was no accordions used. More obviously I'd say in 'Shattered,' when I was writing that I was thinking, "God, I'm really nowhere near there but I'm just reliving it all." I'd been living there for the two years previously on and off, and it was a big interesting time for the city: The place falling to bits, going broke and Son of Sam and all that. It loomed large as an object in your imagination.

People still seem to be fascinated by 1977 in the city. The politics, the society, Studio 54, CBGB.

Yeah, there's all that. So much going on, a lot going on musically then. You've got punk and dance and the beginnings of hip-hop. And there's also some really quite interesting documentaries of the city of that time, some really fascinating ones. And the art scene as well. It was very vibrant and very quick-changing so there's really a lot on amidst the kind of squalor of the whole thing, the fiscal uncertainty of it all.

And there was a lot of cultural changes in the attitudes towards gay people. Is that where 'When the Whip Comes Down' came from?

I guess. There was a lot of clubs, a lot of mixed clubs and so on at that time, that was the first time there had been mixed gay and straight dance nights. Normally it had been very segregated and then you started to get these mixed nights where you find yourself line dancing and that sort of thing. It was very amusing, trying to do these dances I've never been able to do very well [laughs] but I tried. That was really funny.

Did that song lead to press speculation about your personal life?

About my personal life? I don't really remember. I think everyone took it, I don't know. You're the only person that's ever asked me [laughs].

Really?

[Laughs] Nobody sort of either listened to the lyrics or just took it with a pinch of salt, put it down to the New York experience of one summer, I suppose. But it was, no, it was very much part of the burgeoning lifestyle at that moment.

Right. So, it never led to you having to field questions about, like, "Is Mick Jagger gay?"

No, I never had to, really. I think people never bothered asking me those questions. They either assumed I was straight or assumed I wasn't [laughs].

Not to be offensive but that didn't even come up with all those tabloid rumors about you and David Bowie?

[Laughs] Please don't be offensive and bring those things up. [Laughs] That wasn't 1976, I don't think

http://www.spinner.com/2011/11/22/mick-jagger-some-girls-interview/

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 2:55pm

FUCK THE ROCK,IT'S ABOUT THE ROLL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUaYyOk423w&feature=related

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Post by throbby on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 3:47pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8efz6l-qVk&feature=player_embedded
http://youtu.be/i4sP75Oq_wk

I must admit, I like it. To me not as loose and fun as the version I'm used to. I do miss the longer pedal steel solo. I'm liking Mick's new vocal.

A beautiful woman I know once told me that Mick should loosen up a little, maybe have a drink before the show. I'm thinking she's on to something. Listening to this track one can only imagine the possibilities if things didn't have to be perfect.

"put your umbrella up your ass baby"

Now we're talking.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 5:24pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Tallahassee Lassie rocks! :keithpunky

True, maybe my favorite so far!

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Post by lavendar on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 5:33pm

When Your Gone * I Like - thanks for the listen

GR8 pic of Mick :) on Spinner :)

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Post by Deathgod on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:02pm

dunno if this has been answered, but with all the original SG tracks, have they been 'tweaked' at all ?

:nooslajaleisk

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Post by Pdog on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:37pm

Deathgod wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:02pm:

dunno if this has been answered, but with all the original SG tracks, have they been 'tweaked' at all ?

:nooslajaleisk

nope ,same as the 2009 brickwalled remaster... oh well... so much for them caring some of us do listen to the mastering... we can only hope they hire someone who doesn't feel the need to make the shit sound like an over compressed digital nightmare!!

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Post by dadrob on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:44pm

^^^^^ agreed

made for ear bud and not stereo users.

I just cannot enjoy the new outtakes so much versus the stuff I have had.....The fluffed up business is jarring to me...and I can enjoy the remixes of say Sympathy as they make the rounds, but...well I felt the same about exile.
The Signifying with the stinging MT lines ala Hide your love is just way better to me

IF you like it I am glad for that....I am not trying to ruin anyone else's fun..MOre fun is my motto!

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:48pm

These were the headers yesterday, by Helmut Newton, both scanned from the new issue of Some Girls

One header here and the other in our message board in Spanish

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 6:51pm

World Cafe: Mick Jagger And Keith Richards On 'Some Girls'
Audio for this story from World Cafe will be available at approx. 8:00 p.m. ET
November 22, 2011

Lynn Goldsmith

Mick Jagger (left) and Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones in 1978, the year Some Girls was originally released.

Full Radio Playlist From Today's Show
PLAYLIST
"Miss You"
"Before They Make Me Run"
"No Spare Parts"
"Some Girls"

An atmosphere of tension surrounded The Rolling Stones when the band got into the studio to record Some Girls, its 16th U.S. release, in 1978. Not only did the group worry that the new waves of disco and punk threatened to pass it by, but Keith Richards was awaiting a serious heroin-trafficking court date that threatened to put him and the group out of commission. The Stones were in trouble.

But, like a great athlete, The Rolling Stones came through in the clutch, producing one of the band's best and best-selling albums. Some Girls accomplished everything it set out to do and more: The album went platinum six times, "Miss You" dominated the disco floors, and "Shattered" and "Beast of Burden" countered any claims of the group's diminishing relevance. Richards even got off on probation.

The 2011 re-release of Some Girls follows a successful 2010 reissue of Exile on Main Street, and features 12 new tracks, many of which are roots and country songs that have been bootlegged and adored by fans for 30 years. Whereas the treasures of the Exile reissue were largely found in the remastering of the original tracks, this album's bonus material adds up to a standout work in its own right. The band proves it's all blues and roots at heart, as in "So Young," Ronnie Wood's slide-guitar feature "No Spare Parts," the MTA shout-out "Do You Think I Really Care," and the slow-train beat of "Claudine." No matter the era of its release, Some Girls retains its pleasant surprises.

In honor of Some Girls' re-release, Mick Jagger sat down with World Cafe host David Dye to discuss the album, and Keith Richards spoke with WXPN's Michaela Majoun.

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Post by Child of the Moon on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 1:04am

Finally listening to the bonus tracks now... somehow, this feels a bit less revelatory than the Exile stuff. I mean, it's really cool, don't get me wrong. But those Exile tracks... those felt like the best new Stones songs in 20 years, particularly Plundered My Soul. These new ones, well... they still sound like Some Girls outtakes, if you catch my drift. I guess that, for me, they chose the correct songs to release the first time around.

But, like I said, I'll take new Stones shit any day, no matter what it is! :charlieperv

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Post by exile on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 5:28am

Loving ALL the new tracks ......except "Don't Be a stranger"

Best songs "No Spare Parts" and "Tallahassee Lassie"

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Post by Gazza on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 6:33am

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards on ‘Some Girls’ reissue and the bands upcoming 50th anniversary
By Associated Press, Published: November 22

NEW YORK — Keith Richards equates the rush to release the Rolling Stones’ seminal album “Some Girls” as “the same as cutting off your baby’s head.”

“We couldn’t release a double album and we were on deadline,” the guitarist said of the 1978 recording. “Sometimes you’re really getting into tracks you want to finish, but they don’t make (it) because time was up.”

Now many of those songs they were working on have been included with the re-release of the album as a double disc on Monday. A box set from the album was also released.

Mick Jagger said “Some Girls” was a pivotal album for the band.

“The records that came before this were not as good. This was better,” Jagger said, referencing the heavily produced “Goats Head Soup,” and “It’s Only Rock and Roll,” which preceded it.

At the time, punk rock and disco were threatening the old “dinosaur rockers,” as Richards said, so the band had to get back to its basic stripped-down sound.

“The punks started to kick us ... the Sex Pistols, and The Clash, and other bands were coming out and we realized we were already in a second generation,” Richards said.

One of the album’s biggest hits, and also the most criticized at the time, was the dance track “Miss You.”

“It’s not like we wanted to make a career out of disco; it just happened to be that beat, and Mick came up with this beautiful idea. If you’re ever gonna do disco, you got to do it now. It was like a one-off,” Richards said.

Jagger, who says he loves all forms of dance music from the 1930s to house music, didn’t know why it mattered.

“I never thought for one minute that people would criticize you for doing something with a dance beat,” Jagger said. “So the idea of it being ‘Bob Dylan going electric’ never occurred to me.”

The song went to No. 1 on the Billboard chart, and spawned a variety of dance mixes.

Next year, the band will celebrate its 50th anniversary, and there’s a great deal of speculation as to whether the band will tour for their milestone.

“I’m hoping to do something about it. Right now, I don’t want to go too much into it. I’m pulling the boys together and (will) see what happens. It’s a work in progress. I’m not Nostradamus on this, but we all want to do something for the big 5-0,” Richards said.

All Jagger would say is that “we have a lot of things planned, who knows what will come to fruition.”

According to Richards, he and Jagger recently mended fences after Richards revealed too much about his songwriting partner in his autobiography earlier this year.

“He’s a brother, a best friend, and probably the most contentious person I know. All collaborations are like that. Nothing goes totally smoothly, but we always patch it up. We patched it up now. The thing is we enjoy working with each other; it’s the idea of it that’s frightening,” Richards laughed.

The duo has written most of the Rolling Stones music, and though Jagger usually sings them, Richards does have his signature tracks. Among them is “Before They Make Me Run” from “Some Girls”; it has become one of his favorite songs to perform.

“It’s pretty autobiographical. ... I was feeling a little hounded, so I think it came out of feeling that. I was on the run, basically. Very few countries would accept me at the time,” said Richards, who was facing a potentially long prison sentence at the time because of a heroin possession charge in Toronto.

Other major hits from the album include, “Shattered,” the Temptations cover of “Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me),” and “Beast of Burden.”

While Richards said the unreleased music was ready to go, Jagger did say he tinkered with the remixes.

“’Claudine’ and ‘Tallahassee Lassie’ were all more or less as (they) were. I just listened and said, ‘Do they need a bit of percussion or a harmony vocal?,’ but apart from that they’re fine,” Jagger said.

Richards is just happy that the band gets to release “Some Girls” with the songs they wanted to include.

“In a way it’s interesting to put the head back on the baby,” Richards said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/mick-jagger-and-keith-richards-on-some-girls-reissue-and-the-bands-upcoming-50th-anniversary/2011/11/22/gIQAhs6gkN_story.html

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Post by coot tone on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 8:09am

Enjoy the new tracks. I have one word to describe the sound of the actual SG disc, though, and that is SHRILL. So bright I can't even listen to it.

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 8:44am

exile wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 5:28am:

Loving ALL the new tracks ......except "Don't Be a stranger"

Best songs "No Spare Parts" and "Tallahassee Lassie"

I'm loving "Don't Be a stranger"! It's very radio friendly imho.

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Post by Steel Wheels on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 9:33am

I think the 2nd cd is so good they should have given it a proper name. "No Spare Parts" is fitting!

I've listened to the release 4 times, each time all of the way through. Not a bad song on there at all. It's going with me as I hit the road this week to visit family and friends.

I have not run into any shrill issues with the 2009 remasters, but I have heavily tweaked my pre amp.

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Post by Some Guy on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:13am

Here's the entire "new" disc, for your streaming pleasure.....
plus a lot of other really good shit-

http://youtu.be/ODmV74qhdGs

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:38am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:13am:

Here's the entire "new" disc, for your streaming pleasure.....
plus a lot of other really good shit-

http://youtu.be/ODmV74qhdGs

THOSE PLACE PIGALLE DISCS HAVE ALL THE BEST OUTTAKES..THANKS STONESCOLLECTOR!
YOU TUBE ROCKS! :smilestu

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:27am

Where's Lefty?

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Nellcote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:27am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 8:44am:

exile wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 5:28am:

Loving ALL the new tracks ......except "Don't Be a stranger"

Best songs "No Spare Parts" and "Tallahassee Lassie"

I'm loving "Don't Be a stranger"! It's very radio friendly imho.

Agree on Stranger, 1st one which caught me.

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Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:39am

Nellcote wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:27am:

Where's Lefty?

Somewhere deep in the swamps of Jersey? :wow

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:56am

Nellcote wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 11:27am:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 8:44am:

exile wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 5:28am:

Loving ALL the new tracks ......except "Don't Be a stranger"

Best songs "No Spare Parts" and "Tallahassee Lassie"

I'm loving "Don't Be a stranger"! It's very radio friendly imho.

Agree on Stranger, 1st one which caught me.

I caught myself humming it.

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 1:38pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:13am:

Here's the entire "new" disc, for your streaming pleasure.....
plus a lot of other really good shit-

http://youtu.be/ODmV74qhdGs

Nice, how the heck do these guys upload full albums to YouTube ?!

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Post by Strange_Stray_Cat on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 2:04pm

The box arrived here a week ago. Still sealed...

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Post by gimmekeef on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 2:07pm

I like most of these..especially Love You Too Much..and Tallahassee......You Win Aagin and keith's great We Had It All should get some country radio play I think.......

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Post by Tumbling Dijs on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 2:16pm

What a fantastic photo!! One of the best Stones action photos I've ever seen.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 3:00pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 2:07pm:

I like most of these..especially Love You Too Much..and Tallahassee......You Win Aagin and keith's great We Had It All should get some country radio play I think.......

too bad let's go steady didn't make it... another great keith crooner!

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 3:18pm

I don't think I've ever been this happy...

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Post by Pdog on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 3:18pm:

I don't think I've ever been this happy...

kids, marriage, first love, virginity, brussels, some girls, live in texas...

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:06pm

HONESTLY...I can't get enough of this album...I play it over and over and over...
the new stuff plays so well!!!
I actually find myself liking it better than the original, however, i understand
that the "freshness" of it adds to it...but I honestly
LOVE THIS ALBUM!!!!!

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Post by lavendar on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:20pm

AWESOME -

I'm waiting to make a trip to our Record Theatre Very Soon -

Not soon enough LOL

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Post by Steel Wheels on Nov 25^th, 2011 at 7:24pm

I would love to hear big chunks of this album performed in concert. I love it!

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Post by Steel Wheels on Nov 25^th, 2011 at 7:44pm

Some tasty lyrics on this album:

"Have a glass while I light the fire,

Do ya still got those hungry eyes?

Don't be a stranger, just knock on my door,

You can tell me about your escapades,

the story of your lost decade,

Don't be a stranger, a stranger no more!"

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Post by BILL PERKS on Nov 25^th, 2011 at 8:13pm

FRIENDS OF MINE THEY ALL SNICKER AND SNEER
THEY ALL LAUGHIN WHILE I CRY IN MY BEER !
:smilestu

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Post by RSRTG on Nov 25^th, 2011 at 10:40pm

Some Girls has always been a big fav with me and the bonus tracks are brilliant....I cant stop listening to Do you think I really care and Petrol Blues.....wish Petrol Blues went for another few minutes :)

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 26^th, 2011 at 5:32am

Yep, really love "Do You Think", so much so that I've been looping the 6'13" version this morning ;-) Next up "Misty Roads" !

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Post by Pdog on Nov 26^th, 2011 at 8:23am

seems we are happy, it's safe to say... for me and the impression I get, they've done right with the live and studio stuff the past year... let's hope it gets better or at least consistent... they could really put out some more sweet stuff and we know it!

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Post by gimmekeef on Nov 26^th, 2011 at 9:39am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 3:18pm:

I don't think I've ever been this happy...

Wait until you lose your virginity!

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Post by Holden on Nov 26^th, 2011 at 4:46pm

I can't stop listening to it either. Tallahassee Lassie's probably my favorite new tune. I also really like No Spare Parts, She's so young, and Love you too much. The new vocals fit in very nicely compared to Exile.

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Post by steel driving hammer on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:21am

Mick Jagger And Keith Richards On 'Some Girls'

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/11/21/stones-mick-keith-perf-1978-lynn-goldsmith_wide.jpg?t=1321995611&s=4

Mick n' Keith speak about SG on NPR...

http://www.npr.org/2011/11/22/142603081/world-cafe-keith-richards-on-some-girls

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Post by luxury on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:06pm

watchin that Texas concert, I was overwhelmed by Keith Richards--he absolutely never seemed to stop playing

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Post by Tom on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:10pm

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:21am:

Nice you're posting Stones related stuff but it was posted one week ago in this thread

:nooslajaleisk

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Post by steel driving hammer on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:15pm

Tom wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:10pm:

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:21am:

Nice you're posting Stones related stuff but it was posted one week ago in this thread

:nooslajaleisk

Oh shit. It was new on IORR.

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Post by Pdog on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:25pm

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

Tom wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:10pm:

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:21am:

Nice you're posting Stones related stuff but it was posted one week ago in this thread

:nooslajaleisk

Oh shit. It was new on IORR.

Rocks off breaks Stones news first...
:nanker

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 10:04pm

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

Tom wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 2:10pm:

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 28^th, 2011 at 7:21am:

Nice you're posting Stones related stuff but it was posted one week ago in this thread

:nooslajaleisk

Oh shit. It was new on IORR.

So you come here to write and there to read?

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

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Post by Gazza on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 6:39am

Mick Jagger Reveals Some Girls' Hidden Gems!

11:00 AM GMT 25/11/2011

Some Girls was the Rolling Stones' resurrection. Goaded by punk, disco, and the threat of Keith Richards' impending incarceration (eventually deferred) they threw aside their mid-'70s lethargy and returned with a snarling, rocking fightback.

This month's MOJO magazine throws the spotlight on the Stones' rambunctious '70s, with brand new interviews with Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Charlie Watts, Bill Wyman and Ron Wood, concluding with a detailed look at Some Girls, featuring unseen shots by fashion photography legend Helmut Newton.

The latter has now been reissued with an exciting second disc of unreleased bonus tracks from contemporaneous sessions. Included is the mythical Claudine, about the French actress-singer Claudine Longet, jailed in 1977 after shooting her skier boyfriend Vladimir "Spider" Sabich to death.

In the course of interviews with MOJO's Mark Blake, Mick Jagger annoted another ten of the (in some cases, spruced-up) outtakes, exclusively for MOJO.

Tallahassie Lassie

Mick Jagger: "This is a song made famous by Freddy Cannon. The original version we did at the time of Some Girls sounds like it was recorded in a wind tunnel. It now sounds like we're coming towards the end of the tunnel. Quite funky. I left it alone. Didn't do anything new, except add some handclaps - which is very close the feel of the original."

Keep Up Blues

MJ: "This contains a very humorous lyric all about keeping up with the times. It's an amusing one. No angst involved."

When You're Gone

MJ: "A good blues song. It's also amusing. But slightly more angst-ridden."

No Spare Parts

MJ: "It's a country tune. The idea for the song began at the Some Girls sessions, but I finished the idea and turned it into a complete piece. It's all about driving from San Antonio to Los Angeles to meet a woman, which I did once, so it's based on my own experience. Was it worth the trip? Well, it's a lovely drive, dear, you shouldn't miss it."

Do You Think I Really Care

MJ: "I'd describe it as country-rockish. A sort of Dead Flowers, Let It Bleed thing, but set in New York, like so much of Some Girls."

We Had It All

MJ: "Keith sings this one. It's an old-time country song written by Donnie Fritts and Troy Seals. I know this because I was mixing it and I said to Don Was, "Did Keith write this song?" I didn't know 'cos I'm not on it. Don said, "No, it's an old cover tune." Waylon Jennings did a version, which is where I think Keith got it from."

So Young

MJ: "A heavy blues, about meeting a very young girl and then getting wet feet. There's a line in it that says, "I took her to Barney's to buy her boots."

Don't Be A Stranger

MJ: "This has a Latin tinge. Originally, there was no melody or lyrics. So it had to be built up from scratch. At first, I was like, 'I can't do anything with this,' but then you chip away at it and something comes."

You Win Again

MJ: "It's the Stones doing the old Hank Williams song. My goal is always to keep the spirit of the thing. I imagine everything was recorded last week and I just had to come in and finish them - a line here or a line there."

I Love You Too Much

MJ: "This is an old rocker - it's very Rolling Stones. I left the vocal but I changed a couple of lines 'cos I got bored with the repetition in the lyrics. You'd never know which lines they were, though. Keith added a few bits here and there."

Interview by: Mark Blake

http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2011/11/mick_jagger_reveals_some_girls.html

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Post by gotdablouse on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 6:47am

Good stuff

Quote:

MJ: "This is an old rocker - it's very Rolling Stones. I left the vocal but I changed a couple of lines 'cos I got bored with the repetition in the lyrics. You'd never know which lines they were, though. Keith added a few bits here and there."

Actually we do Mick, nice punchen in lines though!

Quote:

Don't Be A Stranger

MJ: "This has a Latin tinge. Originally, there was no melody or lyrics. So it had to be built up from scratch. At first, I was like, 'I can't do anything with this,' but then you chip away at it and something comes

Er...did Mick not hear the "Do you get Enough/Lucky in Love" version? Hard to believe, unless Don Was scrapped the vocals before playing it to him, unlikely.

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Post by Nellcote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 2:31pm

All Music Guide review

http://www.allmusic.com/album/some-girls-deluxe-edition-r2320932/review

Some Girls [Deluxe Edition]
The Rolling Stones

by Stephen Thomas Erlewine

During the mid-'70s, the Rolling Stones remained massively popular, but their records suffered from Jagger's fascination with celebrity and Keith's worsening drug habit. By 1978, both punk and disco had swept the group off the front pages, and Some Girls was their fiery response to the younger generation. Opening with the disco-blues thump of "Miss You," Some Girls is a tough, focused, and exciting record, full of more hooks and energy than any Stones record since Exile on Main St. Even though the Stones make disco their own, they never quite take punk on their own ground. Instead, their rockers sound harder and nastier than they have in years. Using "Star Star" as a template, the Stones run through the seedy homosexual imagery of "When the Whip Comes Down," the bizarre, borderline-misogynistic vitriol of the title track, Keith's ultimate outlaw anthem, "Before They Make Me Run," and the decadent closer, "Shattered." In between, they deconstruct the Temptations' "(Just My) Imagination," unleash the devastatingly snide country parody "Far Away Eyes," and contribute "Beast of Burden," one of their very best ballads. Some Girls may not have the backstreet aggression of their '60s records or the majestic, drugged-out murk of their early-'70s work, but its brand of glitzy, decadent hard rock still makes it a definitive Stones album.

The joke goes like this: all the bonus material for Some Girls wound up on Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You, the two records that succeeded it, both heavily reliant on tracks started during the Some Girls sessions. Hardcore Stones collectors know that this isn’t entirely true -- “Claudine,” a nasty near-libelous three-chord boogie about Claudine Longet’s shooting of her boyfriend Spider Sabich, frequently circulated on bootlegs -- but it didn’t seem like there would be enough completed unheard material to fill out the 12-track bonus disc included in this 2011 Deluxe Edition. Turns out that assumption was wrong. Part excavated original outtakes, part recently completed in 2011 by Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, and Don Was, this bonus disc plays like a complete, coherent companion to the original album, touching upon the same sleaze, down-and-dirty boogie, citified country, and blues as the original. What’s missing is the downtown disco that fueled “Miss You” but it’s not missed, partially because the Glimmer Twins and Was have gotten much better at blurring the lines between the past and present, so the whole record feels as of one piece.

Listen closely and there are occasionally some giveaway tics in Mick’s vocals that date them as a recent vintage, but there are no cuts that sound like latter-day Stones, the way “Following the River” did on the Exile on Main St. bonus disc, nor are there alternates or early versions of beloved songs. Without these, Some Girls' bonus disc feels like an actual album and it’s filled with terrific moments: the aforementioned “Claudine” and its filthy cousin “So Young,” Keith's mournful reading of Waylon Jennings’ “We Had It All” and a careening version of Hank Williams’ “You Win Again,” the blues “When You’re Gone” and “Keep Up Blues,” the straight-ahead rocker “I Love You Too Much” and its poppy counterpart “Do You Think I Really Care,” a raucous “Tallahassee Lassie,” all capped off by the ragged Mick at the piano throwaway “Petrol Blues.” Cagey as ever, the Stones hide which of these are full-fledged outtakes and which are recent refurbishments very well, but ultimately it doesn’t matter: this is a tremendous expansion of a classic album by every measure. [The Super Deluxe Edition contains a bonus DVD -- featuring music videos and a teaser of the simultaneously released Some Girls: Live in Texas '78 video -- a 7" single of “Miss You,” a hardcover book, and plenty of bonus material, including postcards and prints and a poster.]

***Not a bad read***

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Post by Gazza on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 4:38pm

Rolling Stones Interview: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards Talk Some Girls Reissue

Posted In: VEVO. Posted By: Jim on 11.24.2011

“Don’t you know the crime rate’s going up, up, up, UP!” yelps Mick Jagger on “Shattered.” The tough little ditty closed out Some Girls, the crackling 1978 opus that told doubtful listeners the Rolling Stones still had an enviable amount of snarl in them. Jagger was singing about the New York of the mid-70s, his personal stomping ground at that point, and “Shattered” was a portrait of the decay he bumped into every day. “Rats on the West Side, bed bugs uptown, this town’s in tatters. Go ahead, bite the Big Apple, don’t mind the maggots.”

Artistically nudged by the established punk rock and burgeoning hip-hop movements of the time, the Stones came up with one of the top five records of their career. From the disco allusions of “Miss You” to the slow-moving soul of “Beast of Burdon” to the tongue-in-cheek twang of “Faraway Eyes,” there was no filler on board – just 10 songs that punched you in the gut and kept moving. Now it’s been re-released, along with an additional disc of tracks that were being worked on during the original recording sessions. A few of these extra cuts have been tweaked for release with new vocals or instruments added. Several of them boast a spunk similar to their forebears.

VEVO recently spoke with Jagger and guitarist Keith Richards about the impact of Some Girls. Both were in great moods, laughing easily (Jagger in particular chuckling over the current crop of GOP presidential candidates), and citing it as one of the band’s strongest discs. The interviews were done in two separate phone calls, but because their answers paralleled each other, we’ve blended the chats into one conversation. At some points it felt like the two old friends were sitting shoulder to shoulder.

VEVO: You made Some Girls in France. But it’s always seemed to be a New York album.

Keith Richards: We recorded it in Paris, yeah, but it was mostly written in New York. Mick was living there and so was I. So there was a New York vibe behind it, absolutely, we just had to transfer it to Paris for whatever reason.

VEVO: Describe what the city was like in ’78.

Mick Jagger: Broke. Broke and dirty…but full of life and artistic endeavors.

VEVO: It was a cultural hotbed at that point too, right?

Mick Jagger: Yeah, exactly. A lot of interesting music and art made it through the squalor. There was a big art scene then, as partly described in “Do You Think I Really Care?” (an extra track from the Some Girls reissue), a country song about New York. Yeah, it was a vibrant art scene, lots of comings and goings, new things, new people. And great music scene, too, with dancing, clubs – you know, a mix-up, a mash-up of everything.

VEVO: You’re one of the people that could feel comfortable in both a disco scene, a rock scene, and a visual art scene.

MJ: I saw this documentary a year or two ago, and it reminded me of that time. You had Sugarhill Gang and Blondie playing on the same bill. It was before the time when people were afraid of mixing up genres. It was so new, no one knew what genre they were in, really. And New York being geographically small, it was quite easy to get around, so there was lots of people connecting. The Clash did great dance remixes, you know? And they were played on that radio station Frankie Crocker used to DJ on (WBLS), and it was kind of exciting on that level, because that was new, that was different. In a lot of ways, Some Girls reflects those comings and goings.

VEVO: You’ve previously mentioned that the arrival of punk brought out some of the album’s tough personality.

KR: Yeah. The punk influence was really coming in strong. It had a great energy and attitude. It moved our ass, boy. See, the thing I loved about those times was the attitude and a new generation coming up.Unfortunately, only a very few [bands]could actually play, you know, music.

MJ: Well punk heyday was sort of ’76 and ’77, really. So this was kind of the end of it, if you want. Nobody knew it was going to be quite so short-lived perhaps, or morph into sort of something else. And also, punk meant something a bit different in New York than it did in London. The sort of punk scene in New York, you know, you had The Ramones and you had the New York Dolls, but they didn’t really play that kind of music, you know what I mean? And it was a very different – it was more of a glam look. New York was sort of different than what the Sex Pistols were putting out. I mean, my favorite band of that period, was The Clash, definitely. They definitely had a dance sensibility, as well as a rock sensibility.

KR: It sort of spread like wildfire. It was another generation, you know, and a lot of energy going on. And that, I was very much in favor of.

VEVO: Did you stick your head into CBGB or other clubs like that?

KR: Occasionally, yeah. As much as possible, really. You know, in and out, have a quick one. And usually get rushed out before anything [too crazy happened]. A quick drop-in.

MJ: I wasn’t habitual in CBGB, but I definitely went there. That was one of the known places, but there were plenty of spots that were kind of unknown, like a very interesting, nameless dance loft you would go to during a weekend round. Weekends were the time to trying and discover new places and new sounds. But they were playing a really good mixture, too, you know? It wouldn’t just be one kind of music. It was an interesting melting pot of music that came out of that time, and I think the Some Girls album reflects that.

VEVO: Do you remember where you were writing “Miss You”?

MJ: Yeah, it was a riff and I wrote it in a rehearsal room in Toronto. Keith was in jail, and we were rehearsing to do this show at this club, and Billy Preston and I were playing one afternoon, and Billy was on the drums and I was just playing the guitar riff. The rest of the band eventually picked up on it, but that’s how it started.

VEVO: Rhythm has always been the bedrock for you guys. Tell me about Charlie Watts’ skills on something like “Miss You.”

MJ: He’d been listening to a lot of this club music, as well. We would buy all these records and listen to them. So he was very aware of all these different grooves that were behind a lot of these dance tunes. And also, that was the heyday of dance music played with a live drummer. Charlie was very interested in it. He was totally aware of all the subtleties, so he would try now to play dance music all the time. He took to it very easily.

VEVO: Charlie makes songs like “Beast of Burden” and “Miss You” sound simple, but they’ve got very intricate vibe.

KR: That’s one of the reasons he’s Charlie Watts. He’s got that deep groove. And if I can find the right tempo and the right riff for him, you know, it’s all smiles. He just has a beautiful feel for reading songs. He kind of knows what you’re going to do before you do it. I’ve never played with a better cat, man.

VEVO: Mick, the other thing that helps shape that track is the harp.

MJ: Yeah. And that’s not me playing the harp for once. It’s like the only time I haven’t played it. It’s this guy Sugar Blue from Detroit, who played in the subway in Paris. He added that part, which I thought was really beautifully played. He plays on a couple of the bonus tracks, too. I think it’s weird because there’s the rest of this modern groove, or modern for the time, but you’ve got this kind of ’50’s harp on top of it, which is kind of weird, but it all hanged together.

VEVO: Do you remember when you first started trying out the harp as a kid?

MJ: Yeah, I do. It’s a pretty easy instrument to pick up, to be honest. I mean, it’s small and most of ’em only got ten holes. But it’s quite hard to teach people how to play; you just have to learn it. I still play it, I like to play it. It’s good fun. I added some harp to a couple of the blues tracks that are on the extras disc.

VEVO: Keith, tell me about “Before They Make Me Run.” That was your main vocal track on the disc. Where did it come from?

KR: Well, you never know where songs come from. I probably only realized it much later, but obviously I was under several indictments at the time, and the impetus came from there. I was living all over the place at the time, man. I was moving from space to space. I was sort of on the run. That was the whole thing. But when I was writing it, I was just writing another song. You know, it’s a got a good feel, it’s got a good title. It was only later on I realized I was actually writing about myself. That happens quite often. Writing a song is a weird thing, because really you’re writing a story, something where you have to go from A to Z in three or four minutes. Other songs sort of take over, and decide what they’re going to do by themselves, and you just hang onto their tail. Like “Beast of Burden,” I had no idea how that was going to turn out. To me, it was just a soul song that came out – a part of my heritage. There’s a little bit of blues in there. All I did was throw out the phrase “beast of burden” to Mick, and I played him the music, and then he took it off by himself and did a beautiful job on it.

VEVO: When I told a friend I was going to chat with you, she said, “Tell him I’d take the whole album of tracks like “Far Away Eyes.”

MJ: (laughs) Okay, so she wants a whole country album, basically. There’s two country songs on the extras, there’s one called “No Spare Parts” and there’s a Hank Williams cover, so she’s got a couple more to hear, anyway. I was a fan of country music when I was 11 or 12, and I always liked the famous country artists. Johnny Cash was big back then, and he had songs like “Big River” and “Ballad of a Teenage Queen.” Then I got into other artists, like George Jones, that were quite popular in England. Ferlin Husky, and Hank Snow doing “I’m Moving On” – those kind of things. So I listened to all of those artists when I was a teenager. It’s always been with me. It was a big crossover music as well. People talk about Ray Charles doing Hank Snow’s “I’m Moving On” before he did all those other country songs. Though it’s obviously changed some, you can still find some rockabilly ideas in today’s country, you know? Brad Paisley and stuff like that, is still very historical. He is particularly historical-minded, I think.

VEVO: “Far Away Eyes” also lets you get your yen for theatrics out, too, right?

MJ: Yeah, well you know, it’s a part. That particular song’s a parody, though “You Win Again” on the extras disc that is just pretty straight country. I redid the vocals of that in September because the vocal on it were only half done, and I managed to do a country song without it being a parody. (Laughs)

VEVO: Keith, the ballad “Don’t Be a Stranger” on the extras disc is gorgeous. You’ve always had a yen for country-soul and R&B. Your voice sounds sweet.

KR: You mean “We Had It All”? It’s a Dobie Gray song that we’ve always loved, and I actually had forgotten we had recorded it. I had also forgotten how good it was and how much I like it.

VEVO: Is it something that you sometimes still play on the piano when you sit down?

KR: Yeah, man. Oh yeah, it’s a perennial, you know what I mean? One of those songs you sort of warm up in the loins with, you know?

VEVO: Your voice sounds so supple on that.

KR: Blondie Chaplin taught me to warm up. If you want to get your voice in shape, you should start by humming as low as you can get, you know, because it’s like a ladder. Then you can go up, and find the high notes. If you start by just trying to get high notes, all you’ll do is strain yourself. So that’s my process for it. But hey, I’m only a part-time singer, you know.

VEVO: In the horse race to make it on the album in ’78, which one of the extra tracks was closest?

MJ: Ooh, that’s a good question. I’m not sure if any of them were really that close, because none of them were really finished. The one that was closest was probably “Claudine.”

KR: Yeah, absolutely, it would’ve been “Claudine.” It got hung up in legal things; that’s the reason it was off. “Claudine” would’ve been a number one track probably, you know?

VEVO: I was going to say “So Young.”

MJ: I think that that one was close, too. I think that a couple of them were recorded the year we did the tour, which was actually after the record was out. We didn’t want to do any more country songs, because we probably thought one was enough. The one we had on there was the best one, and we knew just one country song was enough. If you have three, it becomes a country album. At least that’s what they’d say. They were just put to one side and then said “Oh, that’s really great”, thinking you were going to finish it next year, but you did it thirty years later or forty years later. (Laughs) So you know, but I think it stands up, I must say it’s pretty good.

VEVO: You’re having a party. Exile On Main Street or Some Girls: Which album do you put on?

MJ: Um, well, both really. I think you just keep the whole thing going with both albums. The thing about Some Girls is it’s really short and straight and to the point. Exile’s completely the opposite. It’s sort of rambling and takes in everything, and has lots of different sounds on it.

KR: When I really think about Some Girls, I recall that we were just having a lot of fun, you know? It was Ronnie’s [guitarist Ronnie Wood] first complete record with us, and he and I were figuring each other out and stuff. Very electric, very exciting. So for me, it was a interesting record to make.

VEVO: Alright, I know you have to do another phone call after this, right?

KR: Um, no. But I do have a wife to feed. (laughs)

VEVO: One last question: “Moves Like Jagger” by Maroon 5…

KR: Oh yeah, that hit number one or something, right?

VEVO: Right. In the video, singer in the band tries to do a bit of Mick’s dancing – all the stereotypical Jagger stuff. If someone had to do an imitation of Mick on stage, what would be the most important body part? The head, the neck or the crotch?

KR: That’s a good question. You know, that’s beyond me honestly, Jim. I can’t go there. (laughs) I mean, I just think it’s sort of ironic that the number one hit is “Moves Like Jagger.” I have to say, I only know the title, I haven’t heard it, I haven’t seen it. But I mean, it just shows you how long we’ve been around, yeah? Mick and I had a laugh about it. I said, “You’re number one on the charts again, pal.”

http://blog.vevo.com/rolling-stones-interview-mick-jagger-keith-richards-talk-some-girls-reissue/

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Post by Gazza on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 3:53pm

http://www.spinner.com/2011/11/30/rolling-stones-some-girls-contest/

Five part audio interview with Ronnie for spinner.com

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Post by lavendar on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 7:07pm

Just finished a 20 minute strechersize to Some Girls Cd [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

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Post by gimmekeef on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:44am

Still lovin the new cuts...very well mixed and fun to listen to. my wife thinks Yellow Cab or Do I really Care sounds in parts like Do The Timewarp from Rocky Horror?

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Post by Egon on Dec 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am

Finally got the box. I love it, but slighly annoyed that CD does not come in a jewel case.
not practical at all...

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Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

It's a shame more people aren't buying this release. The bonus disc is so good. I can't stop playing it.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 5:59pm

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:44am:

Still lovin the new cuts...very well mixed and fun to listen to. my wife thinks Yellow Cab or Do I really Care sounds in parts like Do The Timewarp from Rocky Horror?

I thought the same thing...the parts where Mick sings about Max's Kansas City are like the parts of The time Warp when Magenta and Riff Raff are singing...FANTASY FREE ME...

totally believable that Mick went to the 8th Street Playhouse and caught the flick...it came out in 77...

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Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 6:54pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 5:11pm:

It's a shame more people aren't buying this release. The bonus disc is so good. I can't stop playing it.

SAME HERE..LIKE GETTIN A NEW ALBUM !
:wow

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Post by Egon on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 6:23am

Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 5:11pm:

It's a shame more people aren't buying this release. The bonus disc is so good. I can't stop playing it.

No 150 on the French Itunes.. and that's the single disc version...

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Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 6:43am

Is this thread dead? The bonus disc is getting a lot of play in my house. I think they did a great job.

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Post by Pdog on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am

new news?

No Spare Parts Video out Monday + Your picture in the cover of Some Girls

Rolling Stones fans have an early Christmas present to look forward to in the shape of the new video for 'No Spare Parts', which goes live on The Rolling Stones official YouTube and Vevo channels on Monday Dec 19th!

'No Spare Parts' is classic Stones, you should be familiar with the easy-blues meets country-rock sound of the track from the deluxe edition of Some Girls.

The video was directed by Mat Whitecross, an acclaimed film and music video director who has recently shot videos for Coldplay and Jay-Z, as well as directing the films 'Sex Drugs and Rock & Roll' and 'Road to Guantanemo'. The footage used in the video is comprised of news reels documenting major events in 1978 and footage from the Stones' tour of the US that year which is one of their greatest.

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Post by Nellcote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 10:53am

Thanks for the heads up!

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Post by gotdablouse on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 11:44am

+1 but shouldn't that video have been out when the single came out ?!

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Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 12:41pm

gotdablouse wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

+1 but shouldn't that video have been out when the single came out ?!

Was it REALLY a single...i mean in the traditional sense? I haven't heard it anywhere...not that I listen to "classic rock' stations...
Even PMS gets played in my supermarket sometimes,(really).

Maybe this is a hard release vs a soft release a few weeks back...who knows?

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Post by Nellcote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 2:27pm

gotdablouse wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

+1 but shouldn't that video have been out when the single came out ?!

We need to think of whom we are dealing with here.

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Post by gotdablouse on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 2:52pm

UMG, the guys who thought Superheavy woud be huge ?

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Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:09pm

THE BONUS DISC IS OUTSTANDING I LISTEN TO 3,4,7,8,9,10,11 INCESSANTLY.
YOU WIN AGAIN IS EMERGING AS MY FAV.
SPARE PARTS STILL SUCKS.

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Post by Ronnie Richards on Dec 17^th, 2011 at 10:17am

To me the bonus disc is underwhelming and marred by the new Jagger vocals..
The clear highlight is We Had It All - which marks the point in time where Keith became the Stones' best vocalist!

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Post by Teiz on Dec 17^th, 2011 at 4:53pm

Really dig 'Disc 2'. The debate on whether or not the Stones should add vocals or guitars or whatever to their old demos will probably go on forever, but I'm all for it: it's their half finished tracks they are playing around with. It's like the Exile bonus disc: love that one too. I would've been thrilled if they had added the demo's with the half finished stuff as an extra but they chose not to.

In spite of the efforts - tv ads, FB apps - the Exile reissue got a lot more attention. Now I think Exile is the best album ever made, so I understand, but IMO Some Girls deserves more attention.

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Post by Nellcote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:27pm

I do not care for the official "No Spare Parts" video.
The production is weak, '72 tour footage is used, the map
of cities is missing several stops. There are these references
to events of the day which are off the mark.
It has the smell of a promotion piece to sell the box & dvd set.
After having months to create a video which would herald the
remastered lp & the tour dvd, a fractured, lack of effort video is delivered.
It should be renamed-"No Stones Involvement".

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:32pm

Overproduced!! LOL surely Martin Scorsese was involved in the making and of course the best studios and Pixar

:nooslajaleisk :nooslajaleisk :nooslajaleisk

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Post by Nellcote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:37pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:32pm:

Overproduced!! LOL surely Martin Scorsese was involved in the making and of course the best studios and Pixar

:nooslajaleisk :nooslajaleisk :nooslajaleisk

A real joke. Using the '72 footage was criminal.
I was at the Buffalo show & no mention of it, as well as the more
popular Anaheim show.
We could have put up a better video, dammit.

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Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:40pm

LOL even my crappy animations have more and better production, and are more accurate (even with my dancing as Irish)

:forfucksake

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Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:50pm

PURE SHITE.

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Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 10:18am

My first thought was that It looked like something that the 'new intern" had put together

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Post by Mikey on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 1:50pm

Anyone notice that during last nights MNF game, when they were preparing to cut away to a commerical, they were playing Some Girls tunes, including "So Young"?

(sorry if this was already posted someplace else, I checked, but didn't see it.)

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Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 2:44pm

Mikey wrote on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 1:50pm:

YEAH,THAT WAS QUITE COOL...ESPN HAS DONE THIS IN THE PAST PUSHING CURRENT RELEASES .LAST YEAR I REMEMBER THEY PUSHED STP'S NEW ALBUM ON MNF.

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Post by luxury on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 6:01pm

but Mick's vocal on No Spare Parts is pure, well, I dont know what, but it fucking works. He should cut a country disc some day.--wearing a cool hat of course.

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Post by Gazza on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 1:20pm

Some Girls: The Facts About The Stones' Most Notorious Record Cover

An Interview with Sleeve Co-Creator Hubert Kretzschmar

A few weeks back The Rolling Stones re-released their seminal Some Girls album. As John Carucci reported here, the new edition comes as both a double disc and box set, and includes a slew of songs that were intended to be the original LP, but got cut due to time restraints. In fact, Stones guitarist Keith Richards said rushing to market was "the same as cutting off your baby's head."

But added tracks, as kickin' as they may be, aren't the only story behind the Some Girls re-release, which is wrapped in the very same sleeve that caused such a stir way back in '78 and remains a bone of contention between its co-creators, Peter Corriston and Hubert Kretszchmar. Now that the head's been put back on the baby, song-wise, perhaps it's time we put to bed the issue over who did what with the notorious sleeve.

First, who's idea was it to use the wigs and the cut-outs?

I had been working in the mid '70s with a collage technique that used fragments and bits and pieces of heads and combinations of different elements, while Peter had been working with dye cutting in print production and similar production-related technology previous to this. In this case, it was Peter who brought the the wig ads from Jet magazine, and we experimented with various combinations of content.

Did Corriston also suggest using famous faces?

We used material from various sources in this case. Publicity pictures from entertainment tabloids were one source. Publicity stills of movie stars, and Hollywood press material came from my end. As with many commercial projects, it is often a collaborative effort and sometimes one idea builds on another.

At what point did you come in on the project?

I had come to New York from Germany straight from art school and was showing my portfolio with illustrations to art directors and designers here in the city. When I met with Peter, he was working on creating a corporate identity for a new record label called Infinity Records, for which I ended up creating the logo and quite a lot of publicity-related artwork; and Peter had just gotten a call from Jagger in Paris for a packaging project called "Lies".

Did you do much tweaking of Corriston's original idea?

My knowledge of retouching and collage was for sure a valuable contribution to the look of the project. If you look at the early sketches for the cover you can get a rough idea of the concept, but using all the graphic elements together with the type created a way more effective piece of art. I think that we had a similar aesthetic that complemented each other's ideas and contributions.

So is it fair to say that you took Corriston's initial idea and ran with it?

In the case of this particular package, I think I managed to have all the elements push convention and gave them a certain twist. When you look at the evolution of an idea and its technical refinement, only in very few cases is it possible to say with certainty, "There was a fork in the road and so-and-so made a left turn and that led to such-and-such an outcome." In the case of Some Girls, I have revisited and reworked my own archive a few times and expanded on the original concept.

What kind of reception did the artwork get once the record was released?

It was very successful and had quite a impact for its bold graphic look. Aside from the objections of some of the females that ended up being taken off the cover. An interesting little tidbit: I have been told by one of Andy's assistants, that Warhol was quite in awe of the cover and artwork when it came out!

Who took the brunt of the blame for the controversial images?

I think the label and the band got equal blame. You must remember that at that point in time the boys were infamous for their public stunts. Jagger was having an affair with Margaret Trudeau, the prime minister's wife, and Keith had been arrested in Canada for drug possession. So some of the ladies felt that they did not want to be associated with them.

After the sleeve was recalled, who handled the subsequent re-imaging?

Placing color rectangles over the offending characters was supposed to have been a temporary solution. But there were quite a few females in the limelight that wanted to be "Some Girls" and on the cover -- Linda Ronstadt, Carly Simon and Britt Eckland being among them. I prepared a version that was supposed to be used as a replacement inner sleeve, but that was not utilized after the album had chart-wise gone through the roof.

Did The Stones have much input with either the initial art or the re-issue?

On all covers that I worked on for the band, Mick Jagger had final approval, but gave us pretty much total freedom in the creation of the artwork.

Why weren't you credited on the album?

This is something that I file under "lessons learned" and can only explain with my relative youth and inexperience at the time: for not being insistent enough, and for assuming that there is such a thing as fair play in business when working with professionals.

Who did The Stones turn to when they needed art for the "Shattered" single?

"Shattered" was supposed to be released as a 45 single and I had a meeting with Mick that resulted in me creating artwork for it. I used a contact sheet of head shots of Mick that I'd taken and that he had marked up. In that case I was experimenting with Color Xerox, a process that was quite new and visually exiting for me at the time. The record was released in November '78 in quite a small run. I saw it listed as a very rare 45 sleeve in a catalog for vinyl singles recently.

Did Corriston play any part in that sleeve's creation?

Peter art directed and I created the illustration based on the aforementioned contact sheet that Mick had marked up. In most of our dealings with musicians, Peter usually handled negotiations and contractual details.

What about Jagger (or the other Stones) -- did they have much input?

Working on various covers for the Stones, Mick and Keith were the two individuals that had approval and at times were of quite different mindset about visuals. In most cases it was Jagger who approved art and signed off on it. I was in a few meetings where Charlie Watts was present, in which he killed quite a few of our concepts with loose remarks that he made.

What artwork will The Stones be using for the Some Girls re-issue?

I have not spoken with anyone at Universal in London, and can only assume that they are using material that they have in their archive. I have in my archive the original sketches and markups for the various presentations and meetings and a lot of the art that was not used and was consequently not published.

Have they consulted with either you or Corriston?

I have not had contact with Peter for quite a while professionally, but was asked to clear some of the images legally that I had created after the initial release.

Don't you have a veritable treasure trove of artwork from the original series?

I am in possession of the first sketches and quite a few of the various incarnations that the album cover went through. I have also created and reprinted some of the Hollywood fems versions that had originally been planned. I have a updated version that is a veritable altarpiece to pop art.

I still think that the concept has a lot of possible applications, besides it being appropriated by almost every young kid that puts his picture into the cutouts and all the other bands that use the cover's iconic status as a invitation to pay their homage to it.

In what other ways have you revisited the concept?

I did a "Some Girls Bar" as a conceptual work of art in Basel, Switzerland, together with a young architect named Christian Wassman a few years back. And I have designs for a three-dimensional structure and a deconstructed version that turns into a tunnel-like structure filled with the art. Then there are of course a bunch of ideas for interactive content for the digital set.

Do The Stones know about either your archives or you subsequent creations?

I have not had much contact with Jagger or Keith after Undercover was released in 1983, so I think it is safe to say that they are not aware of any of this.

What about Corriston?

I know that Peter has been trying to get a tablet application together for this, but I have not been asked by him to contribute anything.

Will you be showing some of the Some Girls art coincident with the album's re-issue?

If there is interest and opportunity, I might consider opening my vault -- what I call the "Area 51 of graphic art" -- and show some of the treats that have been slumbering there for the past thirty years.

Do you think you'll finally be credited?

I think I would have to hire a lawyer and do some legal arm wrestling to get them to add my name at this point.

This wasn't the only time you worked with Corriston or The Stones, was it?

I have worked with Peter on and off, for a good portion of the last thirty years, in addition to Some Girls there was Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You, Undercover, Jagger's She's The Boss, and a solo album for Keith Richards. But after 9/11 our paths diverged. Peter moved away from NYC to the countryside. He gets to listen to the bees and I am still here in Manhattan getting the buzz from the street, so to speak.

Were you credited on any of your other Stones' cover work?

My work on Emotional Rescue and my contribution as the photographer of the cover of Tattoo You in 1983 has also not been credited in print. I received credit on Undercover, for which I did all the art.

How do you feel about not receiving credit where due?

It is nice to get one's ego stroked by seeing one's name in print and receiving professional accolades. But creative people and artists are only tapping into a big stream of ideas that exist out there in space. We are just conduits of ideas, and as such, we make the ideas appear, so sometimes just being able to do the work is reward enough.

Will you be revisiting the Undercover series ala Some Girls?

I might turn my collection into a book or a catalog if I find the right publisher for it -- and if I feel the need to set the record straight.

What is your main objective vis-a-vis the Some Girls re-issue?

I've reached out to the label, but have received no response yet, so I can't say at this point if they'll take advantage of my input. It would be nice to launch something in tandem, or to start up the Some Girls Bar as sort of a franchise. I am keeping an open mind.

posted by John Hood. @ 10:51 AM

http://www.theviewfromherenow.com/

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Post by Some Guy on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 2:04pm

tonight the dvd plays :booze :weed

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Post by Nellcote on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 3:59pm

Big night tater.

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Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 4:03pm

THE DVD IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME IN 2011..I THINK. :nooslajaleisk

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Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Dec 27^th, 2011 at 11:00pm

The hairstyles during 'Live Of Texas' come close to giving me the horn, quite frankly.
Bitch, Gazza, et al.... have you had similar near-tumescences?

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Post by Gazza on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 7:43pm

A pretty funny interview with Ronnie and Charlie, broadcast on a Dutch TV special last night called "Top 2000 a Go Go", as they discuss making "Some Girls"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qz5V9N8mMEM#!

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Post by gotdablouse on Dec 30^th, 2011 at 4:48am

Thanks for the link, good stuff indeed, sounds like they had a pretty hectic ride in the late 70s, early 80s, with Keith in "control"...

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Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 30^th, 2011 at 8:45am

In that quick clip...Miss you and Night Fever do sound similar...

Charlie laughing at 5:50 is really nice to see

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by luxury on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

Dont Be a Stranger! Ha! Mick's gettin bored and calling all the bimbos outta the woodwork.

I love this track

Title: Re: Some Girls Deluxe - Coming November 21st!
Post by Some Guy on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 5:07pm

I'm drinking a nice wine and playing this dvd tonight :weed