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Message started by Edith Grove on Aug 19th, 2011 at 3:14pm

Title: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 19th, 2011 at 3:14pm
Never heard this before. What's the story here?

Never seen the pic on the video, either..... :blankfriggingstare1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xZaY2DFJOA

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by steel driving hammer on Aug 19th, 2011 at 5:06pm
That was played at the C10 Weeklong end...

Song kind of grabbed me by the boo boo...

Recorded June 26 - 28, 1968, never released.
 
Lead Vocals: Mick Jagger Guitars: Keith Richards, Brian Jones (slide) Bass: Bill Wyman Drums: Charlie Watts Keyboards: Nicky Hopkins Harp: Mick Jagger or Brian Jones.

Right Gazza?



Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Aug 19th, 2011 at 5:13pm
"Still a fool" for me it's the greatest outtake from the Brian Jones era and maybe from the entire studio sessions 1962-2018, couldn't believe why they didn't make Beggars a triple album, just with this and the singles you have the second record and the third with outtakes like Downtown Suzy later released in Metamorphosis, Familiy; Lady, etc

I included this song in my first radio special about Brian Jones, in 2006, probably the best combination of Brian and Nicky

:smilebrian

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Ginda on Aug 19th, 2011 at 5:52pm
That was nice. Thanks!

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Paranoid Android on Aug 19th, 2011 at 6:01pm
Isn't it great to explore on your own...and  find a real gem like this after all this time?!?

Like a little secret no one ever told you!!! :o :o


Thanks for finding it!!! :)

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Aug 19th, 2011 at 6:09pm
Does anybody here has this outtake from the same session "Give me a Hamburger to go"??

:willya

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 19th, 2011 at 8:15pm
That video was just put up today.

Already has 88 views thanks, I'm sure, to Rocks Off.  :areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by KMC on Aug 19th, 2011 at 8:29pm
By coincidence, George Thorogood has put TWO TRAINS on his new cd, plus several old numbers done by the early Stones and their own 2120 SO. MICHIGAN AVE.

http://theaudioperv.com/2011/07/01/george-thorogood-and-the-destroyers-to-release-2120-south-michigan-avenue-on-july-12th/

You can catch a few seconds of each on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/2120-South-Michigan-George-Thorogood/dp/B0051YKU6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1313803676&sr=1-1

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 19th, 2011 at 9:11pm
Here's another from "TheKeefriff"

http://youtu.be/5kOqaTs-1Gg

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Bingo on Aug 19th, 2011 at 10:22pm
Merci. As Kermit Ruffins would say..."Yes indeedy...all aboard!!!"

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Aug 21st, 2011 at 4:16am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Aug 19th, 2011 at 6:09pm:
Does anybody here has this outtake from the same session "Give me a Hamburger to go"??

:willya



Here you go, Voodoo.  

Hamburger To Go (also sometimes known as 'Stuck Out All Alone')

13-18 May 1968: Olympic Studios, London.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kOqaTs-1Gg
 

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 21st, 2011 at 6:26am
What a great cover of Still A Fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Gazza on Aug 21st, 2011 at 11:13am

steel driving hammer wrote on Aug 19th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
That was played at the C10 Weeklong end...

Song kind of grabbed me by the boo boo...

Recorded June 26 - 28, 1968, never released.
 
Lead Vocals: Mick Jagger Guitars: Keith Richards, Brian Jones (slide) Bass: Bill Wyman Drums: Charlie Watts Keyboards: Nicky Hopkins Harp: Mick Jagger or Brian Jones.

Right Gazza?


Mick on harp. 100%. You can tell he's vocalising through the harmonica mike at 7:12 and 7:57.

The best Stones outtake ever IMO. Can understand why they left it off Beggars Banquet, though. A ten-minute cover on a record that only has room for about 45 minutes of music would have meant three or four Jagger/Richards songs being omitted, which is a shitload of lost publishing royalties.

This is why we collect unreleased material, folks.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 21st, 2011 at 1:02pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 19th, 2011 at 9:11pm:
Here's another from "TheKeefriff"

http://youtu.be/5kOqaTs-1Gg

Stuck Out All Alone sounds better than Still a Fool.imo. Their is a reason the Stones don't do 10 minute songs and their is a reason some songs are outtakes. Wouldn't repalce anything on BB with either of those songs. But it is always fun to hear the outtakes anyway.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 21st, 2011 at 1:39pm
Here's another one TheKeefriff just put up.
SFTD, 1975 at Madison Square Garden w/ Santana and (supposedly) Keith on bass.

Anyone know the story about this one?
Why would Keith go to bass rather than having three guitars, an where did that leave Bill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOM9hWVeI0o

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 21st, 2011 at 3:24pm
In the early days of Napster, I found an unreleased Stones track which featured the lyrics "I won't fuck you too much." Mick and Keef traded vocals.
Been looking for it ever since.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 12:51am

Gazza wrote on Aug 21st, 2011 at 11:13am:
A ten-minute cover on a record that only has room for about 45 minutes of music would have meant three or four Jagger/Richards songs being omitted, which is a shitload of lost publishing royalties.


Spot-on - and we have to ask ourselves: what on earth could they possibly omit to make room for it? Sympathy For The Devil? Stray Cat Blues???

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Gazza on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:02am
'Prodigal Son' would certainly have been the obvious contender for the exit door as its also a blues cover. I'd imagine the levity of 'Dear Doctor' on an otherwise 'dark' album would have seen it stick out a bit like a sore thumb and maybe 'Factory Girl' would have gone too. Three songs I happen to like very much, and which whose omissions on an 8-track 'Beggars Banquet' would have made for a weaker album (I prefer all three of those songs to 'Jigsaw Puzzle' and 'Salt of The Earth' but I doubt that they'd have dropped either of those as both are quite long tracks which would have required quite a bit of work to put together)


Not sure I agree that there were enough finished songs of sufficient quality to warrant a double-LP. There were certainly enough for a CD however, although seeing that from a 2011 perspective is a bit pointless.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Pdog on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 8:06am
Gazza hits the nail on the head... and sadly b/c of the split with allen Klein, lost gems, really only made it out as bootlegs... I remeber when ABB came out, Back of my Hand reminded me of this song... I really wanted them to jam it out  long and just extend it... I just felt a connection between both songs... and it's b/c that sound and style is for me, the root of their music.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by homesickjameswilliamson on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 8:32am

Steel Wheels wrote on Aug 21st, 2011 at 3:24pm:
In the early days of Napster, I found an unreleased Stones track which featured the lyrics "I won't fuck you too much." Mick and Keef traded vocals.
Been looking for it ever since.


i found this on a bootleg called made in the shade outtakes i think, which is a misnomer considering MITS is a compilation but thats what it was called

the song is called I Need You

just did a quick google search;
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/rolling-stones-made-in-the-shade-outtakes-56633.html

or

http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,628756,651315

links are dead but thats what you're looking for

if i have time later i'll upload the song unless someone beats me to it, didn't find any youtube links of it either

its a great song, Let's Go Steady is also great

edit:

one of these should work
http://www.multiupload.com/3UFS4Q61DB

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Some Guy on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 9:14am

homesickjameswilliamson wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 8:32am:

Steel Wheels wrote on Aug 21st, 2011 at 3:24pm:
In the early days of Napster, I found an unreleased Stones track which featured the lyrics "I won't fuck you too much." Mick and Keef traded vocals.
Been looking for it ever since.


i found this on a bootleg called made in the shade outtakes i think, which is a misnomer considering MITS is a compilation but thats what it was called

the song is called I Need You

just did a quick google search;
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/rolling-stones-made-in-the-shade-outtakes-56633.html

or

http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,628756,651315

links are dead but thats what you're looking for

if i have time later i'll upload the song unless someone beats me to it, didn't find any youtube links of it either

its a great song, Let's Go Steady is also great

edit:

one of these should work
http://www.multiupload.com/3UFS4Q61DB

That is a great song- it's on you tube somewhere, I found this though-http://youtu.be/EKAW0hXWFl8


Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Love Child on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 2:50pm
Hey Lee!

The photo was taken on May 12th, 1968. Backstage @ NME poll winner's thingie-pie in Wembley.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 4:20pm

Gazza wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:02am:
'Prodigal Son' would certainly have been the obvious contender for the exit door as its also a blues cover. I'd imagine the levity of 'Dear Doctor' on an otherwise 'dark' album would have seen it stick out a bit like a sore thumb and maybe 'Factory Girl' would have gone too. Three songs I happen to like very much, and which whose omissions on an 8-track 'Beggars Banquet' would have made for a weaker album (I prefer all three of those songs to 'Jigsaw Puzzle' and 'Salt of The Earth' but I doubt that they'd have dropped either of those as both are quite long tracks which would have required quite a bit of work to put together)


Not sure I agree that there were enough finished songs of sufficient quality to warrant a double-LP. There were certainly enough for a CD however, although seeing that from a 2011 perspective is a bit pointless.

You prefer PS,DD and FG over JP and SOTE? W-w-w-what? :stinkypost

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Gazza on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 4:37pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 4:20pm:

Gazza wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 7:02am:
'Prodigal Son' would certainly have been the obvious contender for the exit door as its also a blues cover. I'd imagine the levity of 'Dear Doctor' on an otherwise 'dark' album would have seen it stick out a bit like a sore thumb and maybe 'Factory Girl' would have gone too. Three songs I happen to like very much, and which whose omissions on an 8-track 'Beggars Banquet' would have made for a weaker album (I prefer all three of those songs to 'Jigsaw Puzzle' and 'Salt of The Earth' but I doubt that they'd have dropped either of those as both are quite long tracks which would have required quite a bit of work to put together)


Not sure I agree that there were enough finished songs of sufficient quality to warrant a double-LP. There were certainly enough for a CD however, although seeing that from a 2011 perspective is a bit pointless.

You prefer PS,DD and FG over JP and SOTE? W-w-w-what? :stinkypost



Yes.

Jigsaw Puzzle - good though it is - is the weakest song on the album for me.

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by homesickjameswilliamson on Aug 30th, 2011 at 11:07am

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RNXQF3Q4

I Need You

sorry it took longer than i said

great song, if you haven't you should consider downloading the album from the links i previously posted

HJW

Title: Re: Ya learn something new every day...
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Sep 1st, 2011 at 3:08pm

Gazza wrote on Aug 23rd, 2011 at 4:37pm:
Jigsaw Puzzle - good though it is - is the weakest song on the album for me.



Its funny how we all differ. I struggled with Beggars Banquet on my first few listens, but Jigsaw Puzzle was the one track that kept drawing me back. It has a cool groove and I've always liked the bass line.

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