Post by Starbuck on Mar 15th, 2011 at 9:41pm
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 2:02pm:
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i, too, am still basking in the glow of '91.
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Title: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:27pm
I have nothing to say ... just wanted to start the thread.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:58pm
I'm suffering from short term memory loss. Can someone remind me again who won the World Series last year?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Mar 14th, 2011 at 1:05pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:58pm:
wow..our first grand stander of the new season!.....Go Nats!!!!!!..hey they just sent 18 year old phenom Bryce Harper down to A ball....after he hit .389 this spring.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Mar 14th, 2011 at 1:24pm
Wilson Valdez is hitting .518 for the Phillies right now. Methinks it don't mean much. (Which isn't to say that Harper won't be a stud in the near future...)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 14th, 2011 at 2:02pm gimmekeef wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 1:05pm:
I'm still basking in the afterglow of 2010 and not quite ready to start the 2011 season just yet. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Mar 14th, 2011 at 4:34pm
howe's this for a lineup:
1. spann 2. nishioka 3. mauer 4. morneau 5. delmon 6. cuddy 7. kubel 8. valencia 9. casilla off the bench: jim "mr 600" thome best lineup i've seen in years. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Mar 15th, 2011 at 11:09am Starbuck wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 4:34pm:
Good luck..good to see the small markets in the mix! No telling where we're at this year..hopefully we can still compete, we still have a pretty solid starting rotation. Seeing CC in a Red Sox uni hurts me to the core.. :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 15th, 2011 at 11:24am Starbuck wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 4:34pm:
Yeah,that looks like a lineup capable of losing to the Yankees again. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Mar 15th, 2011 at 9:41pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 2:02pm:
i, too, am still basking in the glow of '91. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Mar 20th, 2011 at 6:37pm
As we speak, my son is getting fielding practice from gene larkin.
(in my best Mel Allen): how about that!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2011 at 9:24am
Opening day today. Go Giants :willya.........And useless stat of the day. Yankees fans might want to root for Kentucky to win the Final Four. Every year since 1949 that UK has won an NCAA basketball championship,the Yankees have won the World Series. :smilemick
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Bingo on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:08pm
Go Uconn!!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:15pm Bingo wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:08pm:
dude are you hittin it already? :smoking |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Bingo on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:02pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:19pm
Geez,did I get mixed up....Am I supposed to talk about baseball on the weeding thread?...Oh that's right,this is Rocks Off.Everything is a weeding thread. :weed :wow :willya
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:25pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:19pm:
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/little-big-man/?scp=1&sq=tim%20linsecum&st=cse |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:36pm mojoman wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:25pm:
Nice read Mojo. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Mar 31st, 2011 at 2:24pm
another season....another opener...Nats down 2-0 into the 8th......
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Some Guy on Mar 31st, 2011 at 2:58pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:58pm:
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU EARNED! CHICKENFOOT's Sammy Hagar and Joe Satriani will perform the national anthem at the St. Louis Cardinals vs. San Francisco Giants game on Saturday, April 9 at AT&T Park in San Francisco, California. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Mar 31st, 2011 at 3:15pm Some Guy wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Never fear the Foot :sad |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Pdog on Mar 31st, 2011 at 3:32pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 9:24am:
haven't the yankees won like 20 other years worth of championships since then? if you jump in a pool full of water, you might get wet.... hahaha |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by AngieBlue on Mar 31st, 2011 at 4:31pm
It's cold and drippy out at the K today for Opening Day. Need your long johns.
Kind of the way the Royals have played baseball the last few years....drippy. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Throwaway on Apr 1st, 2011 at 5:59am
When the pitching matchups for a series is discussed, always funny to see the O's #3 vs. a decent team's - it's like comparing the latest Stones album to Exile :forfucksake
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by AngieBlue on Apr 1st, 2011 at 3:50pm
A-Rod Nearly Outearns Kansas City Royals
http://www.kmbc.com/sports/27390928/detail.html You get what you pay for. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Joey on Apr 1st, 2011 at 5:55pm Go Cubs !!!!! !!!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Joey on Apr 3rd, 2011 at 9:42am
FUNNY !!!!
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/chicago-cubs-cant-believe-theyre-doing-this-again,19870/ " CHICAGO—Cubs players, coaches, and management expressed disbelief Thursday, questioning whether they were out of their minds for participating in another Major League Baseball season. "Why the hell are we still putting ourselves through this?" left fielder Alfonso Soriano said during an Opening Day press conference, adding that no one on the team has ever been happy at the end of the season, during the season, or at the beginning of the season, which, according to Soriano, is when everyone actually feels the most hopeless. "We just have to admit to ourselves that the Chicago Cubs should not be playing in a professional baseball league. Can we all just do that and put an end to this misery?" While attending his last batting practice before Opening Day, third baseman Aramis Ramirez acknowledged he has struggled to understand why the Cubs would bother playing in yet another pointless baseball season when, he said, it will be abundantly clear a month before the All-Star break that the team has no chance of getting to the World Series. Growing increasingly frustrated, Ramirez slammed his helmet to the ground and launched into a tirade, saying that agreeing to take part in another 162 games was a waste of everyone's time. "Another spring, summer, and fall out the fucking window," Ramirez said as several of his teammates, coaches, and team chairman Tom Ricketts nodded their heads in agreement. "I don't even know why we're here. Seriously, Ryan [Dempster], why are you here right now? Kosuke [Fukudome], what do you expect to get out of all this? Kerry [Wood], that you came back to this team after playing for the New York Yankees makes me fucking sick to my stomach for you and your family." "Year after year we all know this is going to end badly, but here we are," Ramirez added. "It's the very definition of insanity." Manager Mike Quade, visibly exasperated by a spring training he described as "the same old pathetic shit," echoed the sentiment of his players, admitting that the Cubs were destined to put all of their fans, family, and friends through hell in a "miserable, futile season." Insisting the Cubs would accomplish nothing special in 2011, Quade predicted the team would temporarily raise expectations after a fairly decent start, lose several key players to injuries, fall into a slump for two crucial months, and then provide a torturous glimmer of hope with a brief comeback that would ultimately be followed by complete and utter collapse. Quade added that even if the Cubs were to somehow make the World Series, they would inevitably lose in a devastating fashion that would physically and emotionally destroy anyone associated with the team in any way for decades to come. "There's nothing I can do as a manager that's going to make a difference," said Quade, who in between hitting ground balls to his infielders could be heard mumbling, "I hate my life." "Christ, am I really about to put myself through six excruciating months of tinkering with batting orders and pitching rotations as if we have a serious shot of ending a century of mediocrity? It's fucked up, but the answer is yes. And hearing myself say that makes me feel like I'm having a massive anxiety attack." "Every time I walk out to the mound I just assure the guys that at least we will all be dead eventually," Quade continued. When asked to voice their thoughts on the hopeful promise of Opening Day, several Cubs responded with "Ugh," "Not this crap again," "Thanks for ruining a perfectly nice day, asshole," "We're going nowhere," and "Please, make this nightmare stop." Despite the rampant cynicism and despair coming from the Cubs' clubhouse, team president Crane Kenney remained optimistic, saying there was still hope that a wealthy investor would eventually buy the franchise and mercifully shut it down for good. "Some of the folks around here say that I'm a dreamer, or that I have my head in the clouds because I believe there's somebody out there who will save us from the Cubs," Kenney said. "But if that's the case, then I'm no more deluded than those poor fucks in the stands who actually believe the Cubs will win a World Series in their lifetimes." "I guess they're the most pathetic in all of this, because they choose to come back," Kenney added. "And pay good money to do so." |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 4th, 2011 at 6:19am
nellepoof? sean? how's things going up francona way?
tee hee! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 7:43am Starbuck wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 6:19am:
Was thinking about driving to Bahston & jumping off the Tobin Bridge, however, gas is too high, so I'll take the subway. Check back with me in October, Buckpuckett.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:27am Nellcote wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 7:43am:
Good point Nellie. I was thinking of taking a trip over the Golden Gate Bridge.Literally. But I'll hold off for the moment. No matter how bad are baseball teams are. At least we don't live in Minnesota. :nanker |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 5th, 2011 at 8:24pm
nellie, the sox and twins are playing like joey posts. what is the solution?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 5th, 2011 at 8:25pm
BTW, anyone up for a RO fantasy league this year?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 5th, 2011 at 9:25pm
huge win, folks. thanks for coming tonight and drive safe.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:50am
Cole Hamels roughed up last night ... I don't think I've ever seen a pitcher get two hits in the same inning.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 6th, 2011 at 11:18am Mel Belli wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:50am:
almost went to the game last night but balked....blantons looking much better |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 6th, 2011 at 11:28am Starbuck wrote on Apr 5th, 2011 at 8:25pm:
I'm in one and half my team's already hurt. :kissmyass |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Apr 6th, 2011 at 2:50pm
less than a week into the season my Nats are comfortably last...where they shall remain until 2013.....
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Apr 6th, 2011 at 5:39pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:27am:
On my way to the skyway bridge; just thought I'd check in... :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 6th, 2011 at 6:38pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 5:39pm:
Make sure you bring Manny with you and throw him over first. :nanker |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 6th, 2011 at 8:09pm
petey....will the rays win any this year?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:34pm
Howards the man!!!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 7th, 2011 at 9:32am mojoman wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:34pm:
No Timmy is the MAN!! :willya :booze |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 11:37am
The Red Sox better win today or we may have to talk Nellie out of jumping off of the green monster. :o
Oh yeah and Giants home opener today. Raise the World championship banner today. :willya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 8th, 2011 at 4:21pm
Bye Bye Manny.........
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/ramirez-retires-after-testing-positive/?hp |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 4:36pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 5:02pm mojoman wrote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 4:21pm:
If he was taking performance enhancing drugs.He wasn't taking enough of them. :boring |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 8th, 2011 at 6:05pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 5:02pm:
SCL?  images_006.jpg (Attachment deleted) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 8th, 2011 at 6:14pm mojoman wrote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 6:05pm:
He definitely took enough! :willya :booze |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 9th, 2011 at 11:55pm
Just to make sure that the government doesn't come after me for purgery. I will admit right now that I have used performance enhancing drugs while posting on Rocks Off. Oh it's true,it's true. :thatwassmart :weed :booze :keithpunky :willya
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Apr 10th, 2011 at 8:48am
Ryan Franklin is the new '09 Brad Lidge.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:13pm Starbuck wrote on Apr 6th, 2011 at 8:09pm:
I'd like to thank the City of Minnesota for helping us get our team on track. :smilemick |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:28pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:13pm:
RIM!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 19th, 2011 at 2:21pm
Timmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 19th, 2011 at 4:18pm
that was harsh.
nathan blows the weekend and removes himself from closer status. then capps gives up a dinger in last night's game....man....gonna be a long summer.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 20th, 2011 at 6:01pm
SCL?
Major League Baseball Takes Over Dodgers MLB Commissioner Bud Selig announced Wednesday that his office will assume control of the Dodgers' operations. Owner Frank McCourt needed a personal loan from Fox in order to meet the Dodgers' payroll last week. The official statement from Commissioner Bud Selig: "Pursuant to my authority as Commissioner, I informed Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCourt today that I will appoint a representative to oversee all aspects of the business and the day-to-day operations of the Club. "I have taken this action because of my deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Dodgers and to protect the best interests of the Club, its great fans and all of Major League Baseball. My office will continue its thorough investigation into the operations and finances of the Dodgers and related entities during the period of Mr. McCourt's ownership. "I will announce the name of my representative in the next several days. The Dodgers have been one of the most prestigious franchises in all of sports, and we owe it to their legion of loyal fans to ensure that this club is being operated properly now and will be guided appropriately in the future." Once among baseball's glamour franchises, the Dodgers have been consumed by infighting since Jamie McCourt filed for divorce after 30 years of marriage in October 2009, one week after her husband fired her as the team's chief executive. Frank McCourt accused Jamie of having an affair with her bodyguard-driver and performing poorly at work. The Los Angeles Times reported this week that Frank McCourt had arranged a $30 million loan from Fox, the team's television partner. Selig has not approved a new longterm contract between team and Fox, and the Times said the money was needed to make payroll. Selig's move might be seen by some as a precedent should the New York Mets have additional financial problems. With owners Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz under pressure from a lawsuit tied to the Bernard Madoff swindle, the Mets borrowed $25 million last year from |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 20th, 2011 at 6:43pm
Don't know why the league is taking over the Dodgers. The McCourt's are doing an awfully fine job of ruining that franchise themselves. Maybe old smiling Bud should take over the Twins. :forfucksake
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Apr 20th, 2011 at 7:36pm
howe many days till spring training?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:27am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Apr 21st, 2011 at 2:07pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:27am:
yes, yes!!! mojo!!! est 2008 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 10:58pm
Bucky???????? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICKaVAbACek
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Apr 26th, 2011 at 10:51am
Is it wrong to look past this (hotly anticipated) year and want to fast-forward to the day when Jimmy Rollins and Raul Ibanez's contracts are not renewed? ... I wonder which team would take a chance and give Jimmy a one-year deal.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Apr 26th, 2011 at 9:07pm
Jimmy will be fine. Let's not worry about him just yet.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Apr 27th, 2011 at 11:07am Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 9:07pm:
True. There's more than enough to worry about in Ibanez alone. According to the Phillies Nation blog (http://philliesnation.com/archives/2011/04/bumblers-on-the-corners): "Of the 186 qualifying major leaguers, Raul Ibanez has produced the lowest WAR, -1.0. You read that correct. Ibanez is 186th of 186. To those unfamiliar, WAR stands for Wins Above Replacement. It is as all-encompassing a stat as you will find; WAR takes into account offense, defense, and the difficulty of one’s position. Take Chase Utley, for example. Utley has averaged a little over 7.0 WAR per season since 2007. This theoretically tells us that if the Phillies started Michael Martinez in those four years rather than Utley, they would have won about seven fewer games per year. Get it? Good, let’s move on to Ibanez. "Ibanez has been worth -1.0 WAR so far. That would be one win below replacement. He has cost the Phillies 5.4 runs at the plate and 5.9 runs in the field. After Tuesday’s frustrating loss, Ibanez’ slash-line sat at .171/.253/.232. His .485 OPS is lower than Placido Polanco‘s slugging percentage." All one can say is, Wow. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Apr 29th, 2011 at 12:19pm
If we could play the twinks say 20 more times this season. I think we could have a chance at making the playoffs! :smilemick
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 29th, 2011 at 1:01pm StPeteStone wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 12:19pm:
You make young Bucky cry like a girl. ;D |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 30th, 2011 at 2:03pm
The offensively challenged Giants suffer another blow.Pablo Sandoval out 6-8 weeks with a broken hand....Calling all 3rd baseman who can hit above the mendoza line. :retarded
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 1st, 2011 at 9:51am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 30th, 2011 at 2:03pm:
Nats and Giants really laying the lumber on....lol..my Nats have like 6 guys in lineup hitting .220 or less!...surprised by nats pitching so far as its keeping them near .500 which is much better than I thought. May drive 2 hours to Rome GA today to watch Bryce Harper play in A ball....... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 1st, 2011 at 12:30pm gimmekeef wrote on May 1st, 2011 at 9:51am:
Just watch the Nats if you want to see a minor league team. ;) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on May 1st, 2011 at 2:42pm
They're giving the Giants all they can handle, though, aren't they? :)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 1st, 2011 at 3:13pm Mel Belli wrote on May 1st, 2011 at 2:42pm:
Sigh,the truth hurts. :will-ya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on May 9th, 2011 at 10:10pm
...sigh....
Twins Venn Diagrams, 2011 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on May 13th, 2011 at 11:45am
meanwhile, our thoughts and prayers turn to harmon...
----- Killebrew ends fight vs cancer, looks to hospice By DAVE CAMPBELL, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 12 minutes ago MINNEAPOLIS (AP)—Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew said Friday he will no longer fight his esophageal cancer and is settling in for the final days of his life. The Minnesota Twins released a statement on Friday from Killebrew, who said he has “exhausted all options” for treatment of the “awful disease” and that the cancer is incurable. “It is with profound sadness that I share with you that my continued battle with esophageal cancer is coming to an end,” he said. “My illness has progressed beyond my doctors’ expectation of cure.” The 74-year-old Killebrew said he will enter hospice care. “I am comforted by the fact that I am surrounded by my family and friends,” he said, thanking fans and well-wishers for their support and encouragement. “I look forward to spending my final days in comfort and peace with (wife) Nita by my side.” Killebrew, who lives in Arizona, was diagnosed with cancer in December. Killebrew hit 573 home runs and made 11 All-Star appearances during his 22-year career spent mostly with the Washington Senators and Twins. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1984 and was fifth on the career home run list when he retired in 1975 after one season with the Kansas City Royals. Killebrew currently ranks 11th on the all-time homer list, and his eight seasons with 40 or more homers still is tied for second in league history to Babe Ruth. Killebrew was able to travel to Fort Myers, Fla., for his annual stint as a guest instructor at spring training. He was in good spirits, quipping that Twins manager Ron Gardenhire gave him the OK to show up a little late. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 13th, 2011 at 12:18pm
Best wishes to Harmon Killebrew. Doesn't sound good.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 13th, 2011 at 12:19pm
The Giants are En Fuego...and in first place. The title defense is on. :booze
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 17th, 2011 at 12:34pm
RIP Harmon Killebrew.......was a great player and person.......he will be missed.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on May 17th, 2011 at 2:24pm
wow...that was fast.
-------- Grace and humility defined the great slugger Harmon Killebrew Story Highlights Former Twins Hall of Fame slugger Harmon Killebrew died of cancer at 74 Many of Killebrew's 573 career home runs were epic, but he didn't like attention Killebrew had very neat signature and felt fans should be able to read autographs PRINT EMAIL FACEBOOK DIGG RSS SHARE Decrease font Decrease font Enlarge font Enlarge font Former Twins Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew hit 573 home runs in 22 seasons from 1954-75. Former Twins Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew hit 573 home runs in 22 seasons from 1954-75. TSN/Icon SMI Nobody had more wrong names than Harmon Killebrew, whose nickname --Killer -- always seemed ironic, in the way huge bikers are called Tiny, or sweet puppies are called Mad Dog. When Killebrew retired from baseball in 1975, having circled more bases with his head down than any player in baseball history, he became the first Killer on record to sell insurance in Boise, Idaho. Harmon's first name was no better, as it always got shortened to Harm, an ill-fitting verb for a guy who -- 30 years after teammate Danny Thompson died of leukemia -- kept alive a golf tournament in memory of the Twins shortstop. Killebrew died of cancer Tuesday in Scottsdale, Ariz., at age 74. Worse still was that surname, Kill-a-Brew, which inspired a college drinking game called Harmon Killebrew. Never mind that the Killer's beer of choice was the one he marketed: Killebrew Root Beer, a phrase underscored on bottles by the words "Old-Fashioned," which would complete the public perception of Killebrew -- Loyal Friend, Insurance Salesman, Root Beer Aficionado -- if he weren't also a Hall of Fame Slugger. There was something Old-Fashioned about the 573 home runs he hit, the second most of any righthander in American League history, behind the decidedly New-Fashioned Alex Rodriguez, who admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs. Killebrew was Pez, not PEDs, square in body -- 5-foot-10, 213 pounds -- and square in spirit. Asked in a 1963 Sports Illustrated profile if he had any unusual hobbies, Killer replied: "Just washing the dishes, I guess." "Killebrew is so quiet that sportswriters have given up trying to jazz up his image," Time magazine lamented the following season, in a brief, rare, never-to-be-repeated profile. "There is nothing especially exciting or colorful about Harmon Clayton Killebrew," Baseball Digest concurred, the same summer, "except that he hits home runs farther and more frequently than any one else on the current scene." By then, Killebrew was averaging a homer every 12 at-bats, the best rate since Babe Ruth, and the nation's scribes could scarcely ignore him. Though they both wore number 3, Killebrew was never going to be Ruth. He didn't go out, he didn't go ballistic, he didn't go anything but bald. And yard, of course. Killebrew went yard in ways that few hitters ever have. He was the first man to hit a ball over the leftfield roof at Tiger Stadium, three decks and 94 feet off the ground. He hit the longest home run in the history of Metropolitan Stadium, home of the Twins. When it finally landed in the bleachers, 520 feet from home plate, the Twins painted that seat red, which had the same effect on Killebrew's face. POSNANSKI: Sudden rise of a Heartland hero In 1969, when he hit 49 home runs and drove in 140, Killebrew was at once the league's Most Valuable and Least Voluble player. He even led by silence. A simple glare from Killebrew conveyed to Twins teammates that they shouldn't throw their bats, or helmets, or comport themselves in any way that was -- the worst possible word -- unprofessional. The ridiculously long home run, then, was his sole expression of immodesty. His very first homer, as an 18-year-old rookie with the Washington Senators in 1954, was literally a tape measure shot: The team's p.r. director measured it out the next day. The Senators were getting killed by the Tigers -- Washington would lose 18-7 -- and Detroit catcher Frank House told Killebrew, in what was likely an effort at reverse psychology: "We're going to throw you a fastball." It says much about the square-dealing young Harmon that he took the catcher at his word, and sat on Billy Hoeft's fastball, which he promptly hit 476 feet. CORCORAN: As a slugger, Killebrew ahead of his time There would follow, over the next 22 seasons, 572 more home runs, 11th most in history. It's a happy coincidence that Killebrew grew up in Idaho to become synonymous with taters. He was born in Payette, the fourth child of Harmon, a housepainter, and his wife, Katherine, whose three boys often played baseball in the yard. When Katherine complained that they were tearing up the lawn, Killebrew's father told her: "We're raising boys not grass." Killebrew was still a boy, just 17, when he signed with the Senators as a $30,000 bonus baby. In 1961, he moved with the team to Minnesota, to Metropolitan Stadium in Bloomington, where I grew up. By the time I was attending games at Met Stadium, Killebrew had retired, and so I remember him as an occasional Twins broadcaster, face framed by a fringe of white. I remember his soft voice, pronouncing the surname of Twins infielder Ron Washington as "Warshington." Mostly I remember that the street leading to the stadium was renamed in his honor, so that I -- and a lot of other Minnesotans -- associate some of life's happiest memories with Killebrew Drive. It is one of a handful of monuments in Minnesota to a man who -- without a bat in his hands -- never called attention to himself. There's a bronze statue of Killebrew outside the Twins' new home, Target Field, that is exactly what the 11-time All-Star never claimed to be: Larger-than-life. Killebrew knew, as he endured esophageal cancer, that life was larger than he, and released a statement on May 13 expressing his "profound sadness" that this "awful disease" had "progressed beyond my doctor's expectation of a cure." In the end, that dignity and humility were what endeared Killebrew to Minnesotans. They will serve as his signature -- along with his actual signature, which was the cleanest in baseball. When he went into hospice care, several Twins and ex-Twins said Killebrew admonished them as young players for the sloppiness of their signatures. The fan that waits for a player's autograph, Killebrew believed, should be able to read it. And so the man with the imperfect name signed that name perfectly. Thanks to him, so do Joe Mauer and Torii Hunter and Justin Morneau. That legacy of class and quiet decency is the true measure of Killebrew's tape-measured life. Which isn't to say that Minnesotans don't love the long ball. Of course we do. When the Met was razed, and replaced by the Mall of America, Killebrew's red bleacher seat was bolted high above the mall's central atrium, in roughly the same space it occupied at the ballpark. It is there to this day, a permanent testament to one man's baseball-crushing powers, on a street still called Killebrew Drive, now and forever a Boulevard of Broken Seams. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/steve_rushin/05/16/harmon.killebrew/index.html#ixzz1MdhatWIX |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on May 18th, 2011 at 8:43pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 20th, 2011 at 9:28am Starbuck wrote on May 18th, 2011 at 8:43pm:
prefer Eva myself.........she's in my cleanup spot. thumbnail_001.jpg (Attachment deleted) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 26th, 2011 at 11:04am
Oh,the horror,the horror. Buster Posey out for the year with broken leg and torn ligiments. Scott Cousins said he wasn't trying to hurt him when he came into the plate. No,that's why he looked like a defensive back breaking drilling a receiver. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/6592107/did-scott-cousins-do-anything-wrong
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on May 26th, 2011 at 11:43am
Red Sox.
I'm just saying. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 26th, 2011 at 2:53pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 11:04am:
I heard they are fining James Harrison of the Steelers for this............ |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 26th, 2011 at 3:31pm gimmekeef wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Dude acted like he was James Harrison. Some bordeline benchwarmer who's an 0-4 away from being sent down to the minors takes out the future of the franchise. :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on May 26th, 2011 at 7:20pm
First time I saw it, I thought it was clean. Game was on the line, the throw was there, etc. But the more I watch it, the more queasy I get. Posey was not touching, let alone blocking, the plate. Wasn't as blatant as Nyger Morgan, but still a punk move....
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 26th, 2011 at 9:39pm Mel Belli wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
Yeah Mel. I can't help but think if this was an everyday player,he slides around the tag. This guy had no concept. Meanwhile,reality sets in among Giants fans.AKA depression. For a guy who is in only his second year. He is a huge fan favorite. Speculation on his replacement ranges from Bengie Molina to Pudge Rodriguez....Any old warhorse catcher will do. :warhorse |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 27th, 2011 at 6:52am sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 26th, 2011 at 9:39pm:
My Nats will send you Pudge for any A ball hitter batting .270 or better...he's done. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on May 27th, 2011 at 9:12pm
interesting two part question: omar visquel. discuss.
1) will he make 3000 hits? he's at 2818 right now and hitting .311 in games he's played in this season. 2) will he need to make it to 3K to be HOF worthy? similarly.... 3) will pudge make it to 3K? 2832 right now....first ballot HOFer? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on May 30th, 2011 at 11:49pm
Ok Bucky. It is Memorial day , and the Pirates are still relevant, uhnlike the twins.....
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 31st, 2011 at 9:37am robpop wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 11:49pm:
Minnesota 17 35 :willya :solongsucker |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on May 31st, 2011 at 1:47pm
You know what's great about the Phillies right now, aside from the wins? It's that you can't point to anyone on the team and say, "He can't keep up those numbers ... he's bound to cool off." Everyone is playing at or below capability.
Which means: High hopes, baby, high hopes! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on May 31st, 2011 at 1:59pm Mel Belli wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 1:47pm:
Funny,you could say the same thing about the Giants. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on May 31st, 2011 at 3:23pm Mel Belli wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 1:47pm:
Hey Mel I hear you are starting on the mound for the Phils against my Nats tonight....and are the heavy fave!..good luck on the season...I'm already looking toward the June draft ffs.......again |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 1st, 2011 at 6:58am gimmekeef wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 3:23pm:
Wow Mel were out there disguised as Cliff Lee last night? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 1st, 2011 at 8:10am
Actually, I think it must have been Barry Zito :)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 1st, 2011 at 9:24am gimmekeef wrote on Jun 1st, 2011 at 6:58am:
Nice way to put the jinx on the Phils GK. Feel free to do it again whenever you want. :willya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 2nd, 2011 at 4:32am
What pitcher leads MLB in wins
http://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/correia_kevin.jpg?w=320 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 4:48am
Buccos blow a seven run lead to the Mets...Now the Phillies come to town.. :sad
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by lotsajizz on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 5:59am
I despise all teams from Philadelphia. Kill 'em Bucs!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 7:46am
Phillies had trouble with Pirates last year, if I recall ... Lost three out of four. Kyle Kendrick, of all people, was the only one to come away with a win. The Fightins do have full-power lineup for the first time this year, though.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 9:03am robpop wrote on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 4:48am:
The battle of Pennsylvania. :interestingstuffronnie |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 12:43pm lotsajizz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 5:59am:
:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 6th, 2011 at 2:02pm lotsajizz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 5:59am:
Two out of three ain't bad! Now time for the first pick in the draft, when there is not a stand out player. Pirtaes pitching has been solid all year. I'm hoping for the power hitting third baseman from Rice. Rendon would be a nice piece. It's a good feeling to wear my Pirates' cap around without being ridiculed. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 6th, 2011 at 2:13pm
I'm liking the Giants chances of repeating more and more all the time. :willya
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 6th, 2011 at 3:00pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 2:13pm:
Careful..my Nats curse could be unleashed!..but tonight I focus on the draft hoping Nats get a high school outfielder Bubba Starling.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 6th, 2011 at 3:10pm
Word is the Pirates will take Gerrit Cole with the first overall pick.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:12pm robpop wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 3:10pm:
Indeed they will.....hope he works out for them......loved the Buccos since Bob Prince and teh green weenie days..... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:47pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 4:12pm:
Thank you GK. He's not as a sexy of a pick as Stephen Strasburg or Bryce Harper, but hopefully he will be an effecitive MLB pitcher. I was hoping for a power hitter, but Rnedon seems to be a gamble. A gamble the Pirates cannot afford to take. Bring on the draft! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 6th, 2011 at 5:05pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 3:00pm:
The Nats are in town. Timmy will get career K #1000 tonight. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:16pm
Watch out for the unsung power trio: Espinosa/Nix/Morse.
Zimmerman will be back soon ... Werth might get hot ... Harper up next year. Watch out, NL East. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 7th, 2011 at 10:01am Mel Belli wrote on Jun 6th, 2011 at 8:16pm:
now we add Rendon who was talked a while back as 1st overall.....injuries are a concern though....MLB draft is a much bigger crap shoot than NFL so really hard to know..... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 7th, 2011 at 10:44am
Another day....another amazing comeback by the GMen! :keithpunky
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 7th, 2011 at 12:10pm
Yes, the sweet-charmed luck of the Giants continues ... I will say, it's been impressive how they've rebounded from the Posey disaster.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jun 7th, 2011 at 12:22pm
posey is suddenly available in my fantasy league!
meanwhile, the hottest team in baseball just beat the division leaders....cleveland's inevitable collapse begins! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 7th, 2011 at 1:30pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 7th, 2011 at 12:22pm:
Indians are dropping faster than Joeys pants in a porta potty............ |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 7th, 2011 at 1:44pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 7th, 2011 at 1:30pm:
Rim!.....Or should I say bowl. :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 8th, 2011 at 4:08am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 7th, 2011 at 10:44am:
Don't worry Fred, the Pirates will take care of the D-backs, while the Giants are losing to the Nats. :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 8th, 2011 at 12:23pm
Did we know that Joey Votto's plate intro is "Paint It Black"? ...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by robpop on Jun 10th, 2011 at 4:31am
41 years ago this Sunday the greatest athletic achievement ever occurred happened. Let's celebrate! Join the Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=118014271564424
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Jun 10th, 2011 at 7:07am So far-so good for Red Sox vs. Yanks |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 10th, 2011 at 11:13am
The Giants have taken an interesting approach to hitting and scoring runs. They've decided to do it every other day. Since they got shutout last night I guess I can count on them lighting up th scoreboard for 2-3 runs tonight. :smilemick
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 10th, 2011 at 1:04pm
The Phillies have morphed into the Giants, which may be even be an overstatement. They seem to max out at 5 hits, 3 runs per 9 innings. ... A Good Phight blogger gamely tried to make the case that their impressive record is all we should ultimately focus on.
Using Hamels's last start against the Dodgers as an example, he asked: "After all, would it have made a difference if the team won last night's game 8-0 instead of 2-0?" The short answer is, Yes. And the long answer is, Hell yes. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 10th, 2011 at 1:34pm Mel Belli wrote on Jun 10th, 2011 at 1:04pm:
Well you can tell the steroid era is over. Not too many teams really hitting well. Now that the players can't juice anymore.Maybe they should go back to juicing the ball up. :-? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 10th, 2011 at 1:38pm
Yeah, remember all the talk during the 'roid era that umpires should call an old-school strike zone: letters to knees? Imagine if today's pitchers got that!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:14pm
I have Phillies tickets up for sale. PM me if interested.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:29pm Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:14pm:
Things have gotten that bad in Philly already that the ticket dump has started? ;) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:44pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:29pm:
with charlie manuel being ejected from the game the second time this year ya never know |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:23pm
I'm just trying to gather money for the Stones tour next year! I'm actually sick and can't go to the next few games in my ticket package.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:28pm Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:23pm:
Hope you get better Steel Wheels. Just kidding ya a little bit about the Phills. :) |
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Title: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 12th, 2011 at 5:59pm
It was 41 years ago today that pitcher Dock Sebastian Ellis of the Pittsburgh Pirates threw a no-hitter against the San Diego Padres while on acid. That's right, you read it right, Ellis threw a major biffing league no-hitter while on LSD. El Es Dee. Lysergic.
One or two no-hitters have been thrown drunk and a handful coked up (Clemens), but no one has ever come close to repeating Ellis' spectacular performance, before or since. It's unlikely anyone has even tried. So today let's remember Ellis' work with the acid curve. Here, check out this NPR documentary of the event: http://www.dockshort.com/dockshort/ ("High as a Georgia pine.") And please support his candidacy for Cooperstown and the Baseball Hall of Moof. Ellis has been unfairly kept out of Cooperstown because of the goddam liberal media (Ellis was an outspoken conservative, Nixon fan, member of El Rukn). |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by lotsajizz on Jun 12th, 2011 at 6:21pm
Viva Dock Ellis!
:smoking |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Edith Grove on Jun 12th, 2011 at 6:26pm
Is this the new political thread ?
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 12th, 2011 at 6:39pm
Best thread ever, hands down!
Thank you Moonie for educating the youth and the misinformed. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:04pm
Things are improving, getting better. This ship is slowly being turned around after such ineptness. Keep on keeping on.
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:17pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:04pm:
Suddenly, the other boards are no longer laughing at us. This is a groundbreaking, cutting edge material. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Edith Grove on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:34pm |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:36pm robpop wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:17pm:
Yes, I know and a sleeping giant was awoken. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:10pm Edith Grove wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 7:34pm:
Once upon a time Williams was funny, unlike Joe Buck. Joe Buck shows what a stick in the mud he is at 4:25. We know where he posts... |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Bingo on Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:17pm |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Bingo on Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:19pm |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Bingo on Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:43pm
Food for thought....You know how sometimes, in school, military service, jobs etc...you write your last name first, followed by initial of first name. i.e. Smith, J.
Ellis, D. :weed :weed :weed |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 12th, 2011 at 8:58pm
From the leftard conservative bashing website known as "wikipedia":
------ As Ellis recounted it: I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria. I was zeroed in on the (catcher's) glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times. The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. I started having a crazy idea in the fourth inning that Richard Nixon was the home plate umpire, and once I thought I was pitching a baseball to Jimi Hendrix, who to me was holding a guitar and swinging it over the plate. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me.[6] |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 12th, 2011 at 9:10pm |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 12th, 2011 at 9:13pm
Nobody west or east of Yinzville cares about this. :sad
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 12th, 2011 at 10:21pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 9:13pm:
twins on the rebound....16 games out twelve days ago...9 today! |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 12th, 2011 at 10:53pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 9:13pm:
We're working on that. Its a matter of awareness, not geography. He threw a no-hitter on acid, for Christ's sakes. It's impossible not to care, unless you're a Mormon or something. Ellis has been fishsmacked by the liberal media all these years, just like Henry James. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 12th, 2011 at 11:27pm
The liberal media and Obummer have had it in for Ellis for years! Yes, that's right folks! Open your eyes, fffs!
Bucky |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 12th, 2011 at 11:38pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 11:27pm:
You mock that which you do not understand. Look at the way he's been treated. Most people don't even know Ellis threw on no-hitter while tripping on LSD. You never hear it reported. MLB refuses to acknowledge the feat. Same with the Guiness Book of World Records. All because of politics. Kids aren't even taught it in school. I spent 8 years in the Pittsburgh Public School system, and I can't recall ever being told about the LSD no-hitter. Not even mentioned in textbooks. Blackballed. Banned. Censored. Redacted. Purged. Penciled. Abrogated. Disgorged. Sublimated. Subsumed. Repurgicated. Repugnant. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Edith Grove on Jun 13th, 2011 at 4:58am sirmoonie wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 11:38pm:
Could it be because we only have this guy's word that he pitched while on acid? If there's any proof out there, I'd like to hear it. :whydontcha |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 13th, 2011 at 7:24am
I need to see footage of the game. Does MLB.com carry that?
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Pdog on Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:03am
I threw a party and then threw up on acid... hall of moof here I come!
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by gimmekeef on Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:17am
This is big news in the ATL.....I was on acid myself and the pitch calls were perfect. A great post to move us away from the summer doldrums and is Some Guy approved!......that is all........please resume your normal posting
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 13th, 2011 at 9:40am Starbuck wrote on Jun 12th, 2011 at 10:21pm:
Even fewer care about that. :nooslajaleisk |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:11pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 7:24am:
There is an online petition for MLB to release footage of the game. MLB claims that there is no footage of the game. HBO does have footage of a post game interview. As for the proof that Ellis did it. I doubted it at first also (GDLM kept me from the facts). Living in Pittsburgh, I got to hear a few other players' accounts of the game. I could only to come to one conclusion...He did it. He really fucking did it. As far as proof that somebody did acid 41 years ago, I think that is a good as it gets. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by gimmekeef on Jun 13th, 2011 at 1:40pm robpop wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 12:11pm:
Babe Ruth may not have pointed to center field either......but I believe he did! |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 13th, 2011 at 3:00pm
I was hoping that lotsajizz and myself could have a word with Sangy next week about this game. Upon further research Manny Sanguillen was not the catcher. Jerry May caught this game.
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:23pm Edith Grove wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 4:58am:
It's admissible. Admission against interest. Who the fuck goes around admitting that? He needs Steve Blass to come clean? Christ almighty, fucking piss. A no-hitter was thrown that night. He's described various effects of acid. Ellis was a nut job to begin with - he did lots of acid. That was a dose-throw, and no one can seriously deny it. Ask yourself, would you deny his acid skills if he was white? |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Edith Grove on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:47am sirmoonie wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:23pm:
WTF dude? I simply questioned the accuracy of this claim based on the fact that only Ellis himself claims this. Why bring race into it? You also state something that I suspect as well, that Ellis is a "nut job," which only leads to further question anything that Ellis claims. Need I say more? :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by robpop on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:58am Edith Grove wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:47am:
EG, take a look around, and decide if you really belong at RO. Read into Moof's post...did you get it yet? |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 14th, 2011 at 5:24am
I'm thinking this is an old wives tale.
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:43am Some Guy wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 5:24am:
speaking of old wives, before this thing gets too far i'd like to publicly apologize for michele bachman. please keep in mind we did give the world bob dylan, charles schultz and the '91 twins. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:50am Starbuck wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:43am:
worst debates ever. This is gonna be a piece of cake, cake walk. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 14th, 2011 at 9:49am Starbuck wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:43am:
She's got bigger balls than Tim Pawlenty. :boring |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 11:03am Edith Grove wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:47am:
Will you stifle yourself, dingbat? We know from the girlfriend that Ellis dosed when he woke up. We know all the the lord hath revealed. We know more than that even. Why would he lie about it? He was all clean/sober when he revealed his wonderous work. LSD! LSD! Whacka whacka muck muck. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 14th, 2011 at 11:26am
I don't know man, I ain't buying it.
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:24pm Edith Grove wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:47am:
edith, we won't bring up when you questioned whether or not moonpiddle was on rum when he made his "man alone with a mini bar" post. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:36pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:24pm:
I only drink beer/ale and red wine. But are there seriously people who question my intoxication? What do I have to do to prove that I have never posted sober? |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:40pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 11:26am:
Why not? What proof do you people have that he wasn't on acid? Jesus fucking Magruder Christ, he no hit the dog ass Padres. No No'ed the fucking Padres in the dexedrim mist. He was high as a goddam Georgia Pine. You people are worse the the Birthers. There will never be proof good enough for you. You sicken me. Sicken me like an illness. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:07pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA5JwXK8R3M
Where are the Soberers now? Bunch of goddam Mormons, I swear to fucking Christ. He's selling LSD baseballs for memorabilia! Who is your Leviathan? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYtRZGMpdt0 Sing a song for Dock Ellis, threw a no-hitter on LSD......clouds are swirling so softly......hair curlers.....last batter looked like Elvis.....this is the best day of the summer..... |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:10pm sirmoonie wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:36pm:
Maybe you should drop some acid. You'd make more sense. :pukey |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Joey on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:19pm
" Ellis has been unfairly kept out of Cooperstown because of the goddam liberal media (Ellis was an utspoken conservative, Nixon fan, .... " ? " . "
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:25pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:10pm:
No way, Sasquatch. I'm fucking crazy on LSD. My friends call me the Negro Rasputin, when I'm frying. I don't think I've ever posted on LSD. Just alcohol, cocaine, crack, and meth (shot up). Maybe marijuana once, but I can't remember. Dock Ellis on LSDeeeee............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg9DXRP4Ywo&NR=1 |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Some Guy on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:31pm sirmoonie wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:40pm:
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:39pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:31pm:
There he is. Taken the day before he shut out the Expos on shrooms. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by gimmekeef on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:57pm sirmoonie wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:39pm:
Hey lay off my Expos!.....it was the Padres ffs.....if it was my Spos I'm sure Coco Laboy or John Boccabelllllllllllllla would have gotten a hit! |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Edith Grove on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:57pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 12:24pm:
I did that? Really? I must have been on acid. :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Brainbell Jangler on Jun 14th, 2011 at 5:37pm
1) Snopes verifies the acid no-hitter story and provides supporting details.
http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseball/ellis.asp 2) I would be interested in knowing howe many of those who expressed skepticism about this story have actually dropped acid. I suspect that the skeptics are not experienced Space Rangers. Those whose ideas about howe LSD really works come from anti-drug propaganda rather than experience would probably have a hard time believing this story; those of us with substantial field experience are in a better position to judge. 3) The more dubious story is that Ellis was some sort of reactionary Nixon-lover. That seems highly (no pun intended) unlikely. Perhaps confusion arose over Dock's comment that, during his psychedelic no-hitter, the umpire at one point appeared to be Tricky Dick. 4) I never thought about the "Ellis, D." thing; eerie. Brainy |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by mojoman on Jun 14th, 2011 at 6:18pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:43am:
bachman makes me moist |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 14th, 2011 at 6:45pm mojoman wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 6:18pm:
Yes Mojo,she's definitely cougariffic! |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Brainbell Jangler on Jun 14th, 2011 at 7:18pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 6:45pm:
As the saying goes, No politician can say bat-shit crazy reactionary stuff with my dick in her mouth. :perverted Brainy |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:45pm
yeah...she's one hot cougar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rUBomKvY0 (1:38, 2:15, 3:27...hell, the whole thing!) |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 8:47pm |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Joey on Jun 14th, 2011 at 9:08pm
" homophobia is all the rage these days! "
You Tell ' Em B- B- Bucky ?! ( " Carissa " ) ... !!!!! : |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 10:16pm Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
I respectfully disagree with your attitude towards CS Cat. IV. You are a condescending, know-it-all person, and I've never figured out why. Like a chocolate milk issue. Anyway, its abuse, not use, that will set you free. Anyone can do drugs. Few can use drugs. Burroughs noted you can do anything sober that you can do intoxified. Hit me. Hit myself. Pop. Here it comes. |
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Title: Re: Dock Ellis - No No Anniversary Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 10:58pm sirmoonie wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 10:16pm:
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jun 14th, 2011 at 10:59pm
my god...dock ellis just lost his own thread!!!
moonie? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sirmoonie on Jun 14th, 2011 at 11:38pm
Getting merged into a baseball thread is humiliating enough. What the fuck does humiliating black guys throwing acid no-hitters have to do with faggity ass white-boy baseball?
I fear there is no need for me here. Keep getting waxed, as if I were nothing but a Homewood-Brushton Annex type, trying to qualify for PPS system lunch coupons. I've moved on from those days. Please check this for more Dock Ellis: http://www.facebook.com/dockumentary You know, the great triumvirate of whining, dopey twits has apparently left in humiliation, but the IQ level here has not increased. Figure that fucking math out. huh? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Some Guy on Jun 15th, 2011 at 8:08am
seriously?This is akin to putting the is Keith bald into the Keith in NYC thread. Tactless.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 15th, 2011 at 9:28am
Meet the new Palin...same as the old Palin.........now back to Dock and the acid.....btw Bucky you forgot Prince in your homie run down.....
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Some Guy on Jun 15th, 2011 at 9:47am gimmekeef wrote on Jun 15th, 2011 at 9:28am:
it's lost all it's cachet. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sirmoonie on Jun 15th, 2011 at 11:15am Some Guy wrote on Jun 15th, 2011 at 8:08am:
The merger was ill-thought. My petition to de-merge should be granted. The LSD content will overwhelm the baseball content like crabgrass. No one really gives a rip about baseball, but we all love LSD. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 15th, 2011 at 11:23am
The merger is done. So be it. Now if we can only get the Joey and JB threads merged. :willya
Back on topic. Another Giants win last night. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Bingo on Jun 15th, 2011 at 11:25am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sirmoonie on Jun 15th, 2011 at 11:30am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 16th, 2011 at 6:43am
Look out...my Nats are coming on.......(there I go jinxing myself)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 16th, 2011 at 7:00am
Wait a minute ... are we talking baseball again?!
St. Louis pitching has been the sh*ts lately. That division is wide open... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 16th, 2011 at 9:11am
Yes back to baseball. Another day another win for the Gigantes! :booze
Oh and congrats to the Bruins on winning the Stanley Cup. Nellie may not be sober until football season. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sirmoonie on Jun 16th, 2011 at 10:37am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by leonid on Jun 17th, 2011 at 2:03am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 1:37pm
SCL....we'll trade you a box of frosted flakes, one of joey's pairs of tighty whities and butch wynegar for mason bumgartner...
no wait...on second thought, we'll keep the frosted flakes! 8 consecutive hits! tee hee! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Joey on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 1:39pm
" 8 consecutive hits! tee hee! "
******* SIGH !!!! ********** Bucky ( " Carissa " ) ?! .. !!!! : !!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 1:43pm Starbuck wrote on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 1:37pm:
I was waiting for you to crawl out from under your rock and bless us with posts on loan from Joey. Yes bad night for the G men....But I woke up this morning in San Francisco and your still in Minnesota. I'll take that over a baseball game anyday. WINNING! :pullanolte |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 2:38pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 1:43pm:
puter's in the shop....stopped over at my sister's to gloat. dude only struck out the pitcher! tee hee! giants vs twins....world series preview? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Joey on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 2:42pm
" I was waiting for you to crawl out from under your rock and bless us with posts on loan from Joey. "
I feel ya S.C.L. If a man wants to be called ( " Carissa " ) then we should respect our brother B-Bucky's wishes ....... B- Bucky ( " Carissa " ) ?! !!!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 5:42pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:05am
Bring on the parade.....my Nats hit .500!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:42am
I feel like there's been quite a bit of good luck in there, especially the last two nights -- but well done anyway! You can't argue with 10 out of 11...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:31am Mel Belli wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 7:42am:
yes luck indeed.....but over the years Nats have been snake bit so it all evens out.....Heck if they really were lucky Strasburg would have them 6 games over .500....hope they trade Marquis soon before he plops back to earth. Long way to go to catch your Phils but at least it is fun to follow them finally. Love that Espinosa kid.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:36am
Bucky?
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Minnesota 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 6 3 San Francisco 0 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 X 5 7 1 WP: R. Vogelsong (5-1) LP: N. Blackburn (6-5) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 10:07am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 22nd, 2011 at 5:42pm:
Primo Catch in the high ender seats! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 12:39pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 9:31am:
The Nats helped the Phils pull away from the Braves last season. I hope they do it again! Other than the painted-on beard, I did Danny too :) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 3:51pm
Wow ... Nats go a game above .500 and get ready for a roadtrip, and Riggleman resigns!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 4:01pm Mel Belli wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 3:51pm:
What a shock.....team wouldnt pick up his option.....so he ups and quits?......something fishy here.....Calling Joe Torre! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 4:08pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 4:01pm:
Hey GK,I think your the man for the job. :wtf3 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 5:15pm
Bucky?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E MIN 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 4 0 SF 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 X 2 8 0 W: Lincecum (6-6) L: Duensing (4-7) S: Wilson (21) I didn't even have to run to my sister's house to gloat either. :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:23pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 23rd, 2011 at 4:08pm:
Well Nats called me....but only offered a one year contract with club option for 2013 at 600k per....I said no because it would cut into my posting time here. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:40pm
Riggleman has not mastered the art of timing I see.
The way the Nats are playing, he could have called his shot for dough. Not certain he ever gets hired again after this. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:03pm Nellcote wrote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:40pm:
Thats for sure Nellcote......just saw this picture taken this morning from Riggelmans office.........  Riggs.png (Attachment deleted) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:04pm gimmekeef wrote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 12:23pm:
thats postin!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:08pm mojoman wrote on Jun 24th, 2011 at 1:04pm:
Well Nats fans are glutton's for punishment that's for sure. :scary |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Jun 28th, 2011 at 8:46pm
Clif Lee was dealing tonight.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jun 28th, 2011 at 9:09pm Steel Wheels wrote on Jun 28th, 2011 at 8:46pm:
Tip of the hat to Beerleaguer: Lee gave up one run -- on a bloop single -- in the entire month of June. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jun 29th, 2011 at 3:53pm
How sweep it is. The Giants take 2 from the Cubs and Zito comes back strong. :willya
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Edith Grove on Jul 1st, 2011 at 5:51am
The Physics of Cheating in Baseball
Corked bats and juiced balls have long plagued baseball, but do they really help a player’s game? Four scientists found surprising answers By Christopher Solomon Smithsonian.com, June 24, 2011 The issue of juiced baseballs surfaces every couple years during the month of April due to a high rate of home runs hit. Ed Wolfstein / Icon SMI 756 / Ed Wolfstein / Icon SMI / Newscom The Physics of Cheating in Baseball Cheating in sports might be as old as the race between the tortoise and the hare. But not all trickery actually works, especially in baseball. A corked bat can hit the ball farther, right? That’s a myth, say physicists studying the national pastime. And can making a baseball moister really thwart a slugger from putting one in the bleachers? Well, maybe—depending on how hot it is outside. To separate fact from fiction, four scientists from three universities spent days firing baseballs at bats. The results are published in “Corked Bats, Juiced Balls, and Humidors: The Physics of Cheating in Baseball” in the June issue of the American Journal of Physics. To Cork or Not to Cork In June 2003, Chicago Cubs slugger Sammy Sosa was caught using an illegal corked bat—hardly the first time it’s happened in the Major Leagues. A corked bat is one in which a cavity is drilled out of the barrel and filled with a lightweight material such as cork. It was scandalous…but does it work? That’s the question that intrigued Alan Nathan, a professor emeritus of physics at the University of Illinois (and a die-hard Red Sox fan). “There was some anecdotal information from players that there’s something like a ‘trampoline effect’ when the ball bounces off a corked bat,” says Nathan, one of the authors of the new study. So the researchers hollowed out a bat, stuffed it with bits of cork and fired a ball at the bat from a cannon. If anything, the ball came off the corked bat with a slower speed than off a normal bat. Less velocity means a shorter hit. Their conclusion: the trampoline effect was bogus. But there was another way corking might work: a corked bat is a few ounces lighter than an unadulterated one, and a lighter bat means a batter can swing faster, which means he can generate more force and hit the ball farther. Right? Not quite, as it turns out. A batter indeed can swing a lighter bat faster, but a lighter bat has less inertia. So there’s a trade-off, says Lloyd Smith, an associate professor of engineering at Washington State University and a co-author on the paper. By once again firing a ball at a bat at WSU’s Sports Science Laboratory, the researchers found that a heavier bat still hit the ball harder (and therefore farther) than a lighter, corked bat. “Corking will not help you hit the ball farther,” says Smith. “That’s not to say that baseball players are dumb,” Smith is quick to add. Players may have another reason to cork their bats: to make the bats lighter so players can, in baseball argot, “get around on a pitch” quicker, allowing them to wait a split second longer before swinging, which gives them more time to judge a ball’s path and to make adjustments during the swing. “So, while corking may not allow a batter to hit the ball farther, it may well allow a batter to hit the ball solidly more often,” the researchers write. Smith summarizes it this way: “If your goal is to hit more home runs, you should have a heavy bat. If your goal is to have a higher batting average, you should have a lighter bat.” Keith Koenig, a professor of aerospace engineering at Mississippi State University and a fellow baseball researcher, trusts the paper’s results but cautions that a bat-swinging machine can never fully predict what might actually happen out on the diamond when real batters swing bats. “If we allow corked bats in the Major Leagues, would there be more home runs?” Koenig muses. “That’s the kind of question that can’t be answered just from lab tests.” Good Hitters—or a Juiced Baseball? Every few years, during the month of April, Nathan says, batters start hitting home runs and the cry goes up: The baseball isn’t what it used to be! It must be juiced! (Why always in April? “Because in April there’s not enough data to be statistically significant…and people start to speculate,” Nathan says wryly.) The issue of juiced balls surfaced again in 2000 when the first two months of the season saw home runs hit at a notably higher rate than the same period the previous year. To test the speculation that something had changed with the balls, the researchers compared the bounciness of balls from 2004 with a box of unused balls from 1976 to 1980. They shot the balls at a steel plate or a wooden bat at 60, 90, and 120 miles per hour and measured their bounciness after a collision—what physicists call the coefficient of restitution. The result? “There was no evidence that there was any difference in the coefficient of restitution of the different balls,” says Nathan. One caveat: the scientists can’t say that balls made in other years aren’t livelier. How times change, though: these days we’d more likely attribute a rash of home-run slugging to performance-enhancing drugs, not the ball. The Humidor: Not Just for Cigars Anymore Coors Field, home of the Colorado Rockies in mile-high Denver, is a pitcher’s nightmare and a batter’s nirvana. The air is only 80 percent as dense as air at sea level, and because there’s less air resistance, balls fly farther and pitches cannot curve as much. That means more hits and more home runs. For the first seven seasons at Coors Field, there were 3.2 home runs per game, compared with 1.93 home runs at the Rockies’ away games. To try to discourage the mile-high bonanza, in 2002 the Rockies started storing game balls in a humidor that kept the balls at a constant 70 degrees Fahrenheit and 50 percent relative humidity instead of Denver’s typical 30 percent humidity. The idea was that higher humidity reduces the bounciness of the ball and slightly increases its weight. Indeed, the average number of home runs at Coors Field dropped 25 percent from 2002 through 2010. But is the humidor really to thank (or blame) for the decrease in home runs? To test the theory, the authors placed several dozen balls in conditions ranging from 11 percent to 97 percent relative humidity for weeks, and temperatures from the 30s to nearly 100 degrees, then fired them against metal cylinders that approximate bats. Again measuring the coefficient of restitution, they found that the colder and moister a ball was, the less bounce it had. Translation: a ball hit on a hot dry day at an Arizona ballpark will go noticeably farther than the same ball hit on a frigid, foggy day at Boston’s Fenway Park. As for Denver’s Coors Field, the researchers calculate that a humidity increase from 30 percent to 50 percent would take 14 feet off a 380-foot fly ball—enough to decrease the chances of a home run by 25 percent. Not long ago, Nathan says, a reporter in Arizona contacted him and told him that the Arizona Diamondbacks were considering installing a humidor at their stadium, too. Nathan did the math—this time starting at the desert-air base-line of 20 percent relative humidity, and conditioning balls to 50 percent relative humidity. “That would be an even greater reduction in the number of home runs, more like 37 percent,” he says. The Diamondbacks later put those plans on hold. Everybody, it seems, likes at least a few homers between their peanuts and Cracker Jack. Christopher Solomon is a writer in Seattle. In Little League, coaches usually stuck him in right field. Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Physics-of-Cheating-in-Baseball.html#ixzz1QqieLL00 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jul 1st, 2011 at 7:24am
so...John Elway really didnt have a cannon for an arm either?......hmmmmmmmmm
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 1st, 2011 at 9:19am
Wow,somebody's been doing some serious editing on this thread. Didn't realize BV was now part of the unholy trinity.post soon to be deleted :solongsucker
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 3rd, 2011 at 11:13am
Hitting problems? What hitting problems. Giants hang 15 on the Tiggers. Zito looks good again. Going for the sweep today. Can someone on the east coast please inform ESPN that the Phillies and Red Sox are not going to be in this years World Series. Well at least not the Phillies. The Gigantes will be going for the repeat. :willya :booze
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 3rd, 2011 at 12:02pm
Bruce Bochy takes advantage of being the NL All Star manager. Takes 4 pitchers. Lincecum,Cain,Vogelsong and Wilson.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jul 3rd, 2011 at 2:20pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 3rd, 2011 at 11:13am:
:nomames |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 9th, 2011 at 6:26pm
Derek Jeter gets his 3,000 hit with a big fly and a big 5-5 day. Congrats DJ. :booze
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Bingo on Jul 9th, 2011 at 7:16pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 9th, 2011 at 6:26pm:
3 singles, a double, HR, and knocks in the winning run in the bottom of the 8th. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jul 9th, 2011 at 9:24pm
also today cliff lee hit a home run!!! damn my tix are for tommorow!!!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 9th, 2011 at 9:59pm Bingo wrote on Jul 9th, 2011 at 7:16pm:
Hey Bingo. I still can't believe that Jeter is the first Yankee to get 3000 hits. That just blows me away. :o |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 11th, 2011 at 6:32pm
Roy Halladay named NL starter tomorrow. Bruce Bochy has promised to keep him on a strict pitch count. No more than 150 pitches. :perverted
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:10pm
Wonder why Boch didn't take any of his position players to Phoenix :)
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:15pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:10pm:
Don't worry Mel. Their will be a Panda sighting tonight. Replacement for Reyes. :will-ya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:56pm
Saw Panda playing first the other night. Now short? Dude's everywhere, man!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 12th, 2011 at 1:09pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:56pm:
When you have a 22 game hitting streak. They find a place for you. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Jul 12th, 2011 at 2:32pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 12:10pm:
well when he brings his whole pitching staff???????????????? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 12th, 2011 at 10:25pm
Fear the beard. BW for the save. NL and the under for the cabbage. :willya :booze
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 13th, 2011 at 8:23am gimmekeef wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 2:32pm:
I was funnin'. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 14th, 2011 at 10:52am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jul 20th, 2011 at 3:04pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 26th, 2011 at 3:29pm |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 26th, 2011 at 5:22pm
I was really looking forward to tonight's Worley-Lincecum showdown -- but apparently Timmy is so intimidated by the Vanimal that's he's come down with the shits!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 26th, 2011 at 5:33pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 26th, 2011 at 5:22pm:
:forfucksake :aimama :nooslajaleisk |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 26th, 2011 at 8:21pm
The Vanimal strikes again!
Looks to me like he's benefiting from some fortunate BABIP, but I'll take it. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 26th, 2011 at 9:18pm
That's a'wright. We'll give you that one. Barry Zito aka the sacrificial lamb. I like our chances the next 2 nights. Lincecum and Cain VS hasbeen and noname. :willya :smilebrian
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 26th, 2011 at 9:48pm
Cole Hamels, a has-been? Seriously?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jul 27th, 2011 at 9:49am
i was keeping track of that pirates braves game last night....call for instant replay anyone??
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:51am Starbuck wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 9:49am:
Worst call in the history of organized sports. Has anybody seen Robpop? Somebody stop him from killing that umpire. :pukey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:17pm
Giants get Carlos Beltran....It's on kiddies....It's on! :booze :willya
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Jul 27th, 2011 at 3:19pm
Last night I walked past the hotel the Giants are staying.
That's all for this post. Nothing to report other than a coach or someone affiliated with the team was outside smoking. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Bingo on Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:10pm
RIP Hideki Irabu...early reports are saying he took his own life.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jul 28th, 2011 at 8:18pm Bingo wrote on Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:10pm:
Former Yankees pitcher Hideki Irabu found dead By ROBERT JABLON, Associated Press 19 minutes ago LOS ANGELES (AP)—Hideki Irabu joined the New York Yankees 14 years ago in a swell of international excitement. The quirky, flamethrowing Japanese right-hander seemed destined to become a pioneering star for American baseball’s marquee franchise. Irabu never reached those enormous expectations, and his career spiraled. On Wednesday, the 42-year-old was found dead, an apparent suicide in a home in Rancho Palos Verdes, a wealthy Los Angeles suburb. “He was a world-class pitcher,” said former major league manager Bobby Valentine, who managed Irabu in Japan in 1995. “When Nolan Ryan saw him, he said he had never seen anything like it. There were just some days when he was as good a pitcher as I had ever seen. A fabulous arm.” Los Angeles County coroner’s official Ed Winter said his office is investigating Irabu’s death as a suicide, revealing no additional circumstances. An autopsy will be performed Friday or Saturday. Irabu was billed as the Japanese version of Ryan when he arrived in the United States in 1997, a hard-throwing starter with a 98-mph fastball who excelled as a strikeout specialist—an almost unfair addition to the defending World Series champions. After an impressive debut with the Yankees that summer, he was a disappointment to the Yankees and himself during three seasons in the Bronx. Instead, he was forever tagged with a label from late Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, who called him a “fat … toad” after Irabu failed to cover first base during an exhibition game. Irabu finished 34-35 with a 5.15 ERA in his tenure with the Yankees, two years in Montreal and a final season in the Texas bullpen in 2002. He was a member of two Yankees teams that won the World Series, but his only postseason action was a single relief appearance in the 1999 AL championship series when Boston tagged him for 13 hits. Irabu pitched in an American independent league and signed with a Japanese team in recent years while living with his family in Southern California. Neighbors believe Irabu had grown despondent recently because of a split with his wife. Mary Feuerlicht said she was about to go pick up her son on Wednesday morning when a man came running down the driveway from Irabu’s large two-story home, perched atop a hill with views of the harbor and downtown Los Angeles, pleading with her to call police. Feuerlicht said she was later told by sheriff’s deputies and the man who asked her for help that Irabu’s wife had left him, taking their two young daughters. She hadn’t seen Irabu’s wife and children for two months, but said the family regularly left town for the summer. “When I saw him for the past month or so he seemed kind of down,” she said. “He wasn’t kind of perky like I’ve seen him before.” Ichiro(notes) Sakashita, who identified himself as Irabu’s friend, arrived late Thursday to place huge bouquets of flowers in front of the former player’s home. Sakashita said Irabu wanted to become a baseball coach and stay involved with the sport after his retirement, but ultimately decided to spend time with his family. Sakashita said Irabu and his wife had been separated for about a month. “He decided to go to heaven,” he said. “So we must accept that.” Irabu’s death is the second apparent suicide by a sports figure this week. Police say American Olympic freestyle skier Jeret “Speedy” Peterson shot himself in a Utah canyon on Monday. Valentine said he got the news about Irabu on Thursday when it came across on his mobile phone. “I got a little sick to my stomach, actually,” he said. Irabu was one of several pitchers from Japan who hoped to duplicate Hideo Nomo’s trailblazing achievements in the major leagues. Irabu also was a curiosity—he taped magnets all over his body when he pitched, hoping they would bring wellness. Although Irabu largely struggled in the majors, he left a lasting legacy. Several big stars, from Ichiro Suzuki to Hideki Matsui(notes), followed Nomo and Irabu from Japan to the United States. “He was one of the pioneers,” Valentine said. “There was a lot riding on his shoulders.” Irabu starred in Japan for nearly a decade before the San Diego Padres purchased his contract from the Chiba Lotte Marines. But Irabu declined to join the Padres, insisting he would only play for the Yankees. The Yankees put together a package and traded for Irabu a few months later and signed him to a four-year, $12.8 million contract. “We are deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Hideki Irabu,” the Yankees said in a statement. “Every player that wears the Pinstripes is forever a part of the Yankees family, and his death is felt throughout our organization.” Irabu pitched just eight games in the minors before making his big league debut at Yankee Stadium on July 10, 1997. The crowd was buzzing even before his first pitch, and fans on two continents watched him. T-shirts with “Typhoon Irabu” were on sale at the concession stands at Yankee Stadium and sushi was sold alongside the hot dogs and beers. With current Yankees manager Joe Girardi as his catcher that night, Irabu retired the first six Detroit batters, striking out four of them and showing a 96 mph fastball. He fanned nine in 6 2-3 innings and got the win. When he walked off the mound in the seventh inning, Yankees fans gave him a standing ovation. Some even bowed with both hands over their heads, and Irabu came out of the dugout for a curtain call. That, however, was perhaps his finest moment in the majors. “He was a work in progress. It just didn’t progress I guess the way he had planned or the way some people planned,” Valentine said. Irabu posted a team-leading 16 saves—the only saves of his major league career—with Texas in 2002. He then returned to Japan for the 2003 season and enjoyed renewed success, earning a win in the All-Star game, going 13-8 and helping Hanshin win its first league title in 18 years. Irabu made a comeback in April 2009 in the independent Golden Baseball League, going 5-3 with a 3.58 ERA for the Long Beach Armada. He then returned to Japan and was introduced that August as a member of the Kochi Fighting Dogs, saying, “I have high expectations for myself.” But Irabu also had off-the-field trouble in recent years. In August 2008, he was arrested in Japan for allegedly assaulting a bartender after drinking 20 mugs of beer. Police said he became angered after his credit card was rejected. In May 2010, Irabu was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol in Gardena, another Los Angeles suburb. Police said he was stopped after his car drifted outside of traffic lanes and he nearly collided with a parked car. He posted $5,000 bail but it was not immediately clear whether he was criminally charged. “I think that he was one of his own worst enemies,” Valentine said. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jul 29th, 2011 at 9:32am
mel, who is the phil's official closer now? i have bastardo and madson on my fantasy team, but i am not sure about keeping both. what is the progress report on lidge? has he been solid since returning...when was it...last week?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:45am
TIMMY!! :willya :booze
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Jul 29th, 2011 at 12:49pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 11:45am:
:wtf3 |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 29th, 2011 at 1:27pm Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 9:32am:
For now, the answer seems to be "both." Lidge's slider has been great since coming back, but I still don't see fastball command.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 29th, 2011 at 1:33pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
They didn't need a closer the last two days. ;) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Jul 29th, 2011 at 9:43pm Mel Belli wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
crap. i hate tying up two roster spots. oh well. is oswalt done? should i take a chance? i need some serious pitching. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 30th, 2011 at 10:19am Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 9:43pm:
Oswalt does not appear to be done. Expect him back in August. And he's typically a very good second-half pitcher. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Jul 30th, 2011 at 10:20am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 29th, 2011 at 1:33pm:
No, they did not ... and maybe the Giants shouldn't have used theirs last night [smiley=happy.gif] |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 30th, 2011 at 11:44am Mel Belli wrote on Jul 30th, 2011 at 10:20am:
Shit happens. Nice pickup by the Phills (and Eagles) yesterday. See ya in the NLCS. :willya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 11th, 2011 at 12:55pm
I have to pay for the post season invoice that just arrived. Perfect timing.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Aug 15th, 2011 at 10:35pm
with the twins' season officially over (dated retroactive to approximately the fifth game of the season), we've been waiting for this puppy, which came tonight:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18042497&topic_id=8878976&c_id=mlb thome is my homie! fastest to 600 with the exception of ruth. amazing. first ballot HOF. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 16th, 2011 at 7:04am
Everyone likes this guy. Good for him.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Aug 16th, 2011 at 8:09am Starbuck wrote on Aug 15th, 2011 at 10:35pm:
My congrats to Thome is a bit guarded. So long as there are no ex-girlfirends or trainers coming forward to say he doped & his noggin does not become abnormally large. BTW, BuckoViola, was Thome your homie when he was hitting many of those homahs as a member of division foes The Tribe & Crazy Sox? Finally, BuckoDelmon, thanks for the series win last week. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Aug 16th, 2011 at 10:08am |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 16th, 2011 at 10:47am Mel Belli wrote on Aug 16th, 2011 at 10:08am:
You can't spell blown save without BW. :nooslajaleisk :'( |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Aug 16th, 2011 at 11:05am
In fairness to the guy, whom I like, it looked like he was still feeling the back tweak...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Aug 16th, 2011 at 1:02pm
in other news.....my Nats grabbed a nice haul of more young rookie players at draft signing deadline. loading up the farm system finally. 2013 should be a good year with the young talent putting them at least in wild card contention.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 16th, 2011 at 1:18pm
Hey GK. Watching the Giants Braves game last night. Theye really pack 'em in.in the ATL don't they. Geez,they have a playoff team and nobody shows up?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Aug 17th, 2011 at 8:15am
Charlie Manuel: You have a bullpen. It's a pretty good one. Use it!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Aug 17th, 2011 at 3:10pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 16th, 2011 at 1:18pm:
Well they have never loved pro sports here as the college teams rule. Stadium is nice but right downtown and a pain to get to. Besides Braves did sell well when Uggla was streaking but now reality of being 10 games back of the billion dollar Phillies sets in. In many markets high definition TV has resulted in lower attendance. Also it is first-second week back at school for kids and that factors in too. Oh and it's been 95- 100 degrees here for weeks. For me......bring on the NFL baby! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 17th, 2011 at 3:43pm Mel Belli wrote on Aug 17th, 2011 at 8:15am:
The one time I have to root for the Phills. :pukey |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Aug 17th, 2011 at 5:40pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 17th, 2011 at 3:43pm:
And I the Giants! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Aug 17th, 2011 at 6:04pm
I was at Saturday's Phils game. What a great park. It still impresses me after all these years.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Aug 20th, 2011 at 9:30am
time to break up my Nats!.......only 3 games under .500......
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Aug 21st, 2011 at 2:33pm
I was at the Nats game Saturday night. What a night. Biggest crowd ever at Nationals Park...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 21st, 2011 at 5:41pm gimmekeef wrote on Aug 20th, 2011 at 9:30am:
Need thier help next week GK. Diamondbacks coming to town. Somehow in spite of looking more like a MASH unit than a baseball team,my Giants are still hanging right there. :willya |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 3:08pm
I'll keep my fingers crossed we can help out!.....but regardless I can't see anyone getting by the Phils in the playoffs but you never know.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 3:11pm gimmekeef wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 3:08pm:
That's what they said last year. ;) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 6:38pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 22nd, 2011 at 3:11pm:
:forfucksake |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Aug 27th, 2011 at 10:44am
interesting story on justin verlander. i'm not a fan of the tigers, but he is one of the best of this generation, no? does he have a shot at 300? you be the judge!
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/eye-performance/201108/screw-math-why-justin-verlander-has-pitchers-chance-300-career-wins |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:30pm
I think it's time to cue up the Journey...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 5th, 2011 at 10:27pm
Verlander seems a lock for the AL Cy Young.
But the NL is a tossup right now. Will Clifton Phifer and Harry Leroy split votes and deliver it to Kershaw? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 15th, 2011 at 8:31am
My playoff ticket should be arriving shortly.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 15th, 2011 at 9:35am
More upheaval in Giants land. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/14/MN5L1L4S5V.DTL
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 9:41am Mel Belli wrote on Sep 5th, 2011 at 10:27pm:
Some are calling for Verlander as MVP. This could be a valid year in his case. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 17th, 2011 at 10:02pm
Another division title! Yeah!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 7:06am
A hint of hope in Nats land after a 4 game sweep of the Phillies Triple A lineup. Young pitchers are looking great and we even have a shot at .500 this year now. Nothing to brag about I know but at least hope for the future. Good luck to all in the playoffs and maybe in 2013 my Nats can bust in.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 8:14am
Phillies will win again eventually. I just hope it's before April.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 8:26am Mel Belli wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 8:14am:
someone jettisoned oswalt in my fantasy league and i picked him up before yesterday's start. now i'm 2.5 points behind the leader. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 9:28am
Oswalt was good last night. Bad fielding led to the first two runs. He probably should've been pulled after the 7th. He's the least of my worries right now.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Sep 29th, 2011 at 12:04am
holy mary mother of god!
today is proof positive why we love baseball so much. nellie, meanwhile, will not be reporting to work tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:18am
Best night of regular-season ball, ever.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:25am
It was actually laughable, to lose the last game of the season & still have chance, then 3 minutes later lose a shot at the playoffs.
I knew when the Devil Rays got six runs, then tied the game, and The Sox could not score insurance runs, karma had shown itself. Andino for the Orioles has turned out to be quite a Sox killah. Oh well. It still does not sting as bad after winning in '04 & '07. Will make for shake ups in staff & management in Bahston this wintah. Upward & Onward! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:50am Mel Belli wrote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:18am:
i was flippin back and forth between comcast and espn, couldnt believe once the sox started playing again that they went to that over the tampa/ny which was already in extra innings!!! poor chipper thought he had a hit there adios tonto..and congrats to Charlie and the rest. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 29th, 2011 at 11:06am Starbuck wrote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 12:04am:
Nellie is busy organizing a hit squad should Jonathon Papelbom make the mistake of trying to reenter the P.R.O.M...........But that was some crazy shit last night. Throwing my postseason support towards the Detroit Tigers or Tampa.......Or whoever is playing the Phillies. :loloncemore |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Sep 29th, 2011 at 7:38pm
gotta root for the rays. most amazing comeback i've ever seen in a baseball game...and with so much on the line.
as long as the spankees get knocked out, i'm fine with whoever wins. phils will be tough to beat....although we said that last year too.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:14pm
Enjoy the playoffs guys for those of you that made it.....I will take solace in Strasburg winning my Nats last game with 1 hit through 6 and 10k's...for the 42nd year in a row we Expo/nats fans say....theres always next year.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Sep 30th, 2011 at 8:33am Starbuck wrote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
:smilemick |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Sep 30th, 2011 at 8:43am Starbuck wrote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
Phils last year + Cliff Lee = that much tougher. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 30th, 2011 at 11:13am Starbuck wrote on Sep 29th, 2011 at 7:38pm:
The Rays are this years Giants. :charlieperv |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by StPeteStone on Sep 30th, 2011 at 10:04pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 30th, 2011 at 11:13am:
Yeah baby..we do have the pitching!!! Hopefully it holds up. Complete Game James tomorrow night. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Pdog on Oct 2nd, 2011 at 9:56pm
so stressed out watching game 2 card/phils...
go philly |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 2nd, 2011 at 11:14pm
That sucked.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 8:47am
Nothing about that game from the fourth inning on made any frickin' sense whatsoever. Cliff Lee squandering a comfortable lead to the likes of Ryan Theriot and John Jay? The Phillies getting one hit over six innings against a patchwork bullpen that they absolutely annihilated just one night before?
Of all the teams the Phillies have brought to the postseason, this is one is by far the best. And yet now they're in a real fight. The arbitrariness of the playoffs -- especially the five-game series -- sucks. The sheer amount of luck involved -- it's almost not worth your time and emotional investment. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 9:42am
I was at that waste of time. I should have stayed home.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 10:06am
Playoffs = crapshoot. It's unfortunately that simple. The Phillies were lucky to win in '08. The team keeps improving, with (it now seems possible) steadily less success in the postseason.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 11:12am Mel Belli wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 10:06am:
yer breaking my heart Mel |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 11:43am mojoman wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 11:12am:
Rough day in Philly all the way around huh boys? :stinkypost |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 11:50am
I could give two shits about the Eagles and their dog killing thug of a QB.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 1:37pm Steel Wheels wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 11:50am:
It's their dog shit defense you should be worried about.....Leave Vick alone. he did his time. Thier are guys in the NFL who killed people and didn't do jail time. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 4:00pm
Why should I be worried about a team I don't follow?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 4th, 2011 at 8:21pm
I need a cardiologist.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 4th, 2011 at 10:57pm
I knew the Phills would win today. Wish I would of bet the crap out of them instead putting in a stupid parlay with the Rays. :-[
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:52am
[quote author=sweetcharmedlife link=1300123669/300#314 date=1317787027]I knew the Phills would win today. Wish I would of bet the crap out of them instead putting in a stupid parlay with the Rays. :-[/quote]
Parlays are for suckers...you know that!..lost more $ on them than anything else and stopped em years ago. BTW congrats to the Tigers!!!!! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:02am gimmekeef wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:52am:
AROID striking out last=priceless. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 7th, 2011 at 12:02pm gimmekeef wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:52am:
Worked out ok last night on the Tigers and the under. :booze We would like to thank the New York Yankees for their particpation in the 2011 MLB season. We have some lovely parting gifts for you on your way to the golf course.....And make room in your foursome for the Phillies. :solongsucker |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Pdog on Oct 7th, 2011 at 5:11pm
all I have to say, is in this pic
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:32pm
I wish I was feeling more confident. Doc will be good, I have no doubt. But the bats...
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by mojoman on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:15pm Mel Belli wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:32pm:
you called it Mel............. :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:34pm
mel, take the rest of the night off.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:34pm
Utley and Ibanez just missed homers, but it was Carpenter's night -- and maybe St. Louis's year.
I don't know what changes next year, if they stick with this core lineup. They're old and in marked decline. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:36pm mojoman wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:15pm:
no shit! mel? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:56pm
Didn't take a crystal ball to see it coming. They basically went .500 for September, and it showed in this series: poor, aimless approaches at the plate. Some sloppy fielding, to boot.
Howard's contract extension through 2016 looks like an albatross right now. Rollins is likely gone. Utley and Polanco can't seem to stay healthy. I don't expect Victorino to have the kind of season he had this year... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 8th, 2011 at 5:38am
Hot damn! I was hoping the big fella would smack a home run. I can still say I saw some of the best Phillies games of my life this year. No hate on this team. At the end of the day it's just a game...a really really fun game.
2012 Phillies here I come! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 8th, 2011 at 11:59am Mel Belli wrote on Oct 7th, 2011 at 10:56pm:
Tough one Mel.....lets just say it was "in the cards".....next year player wise it's tough to say...I'm willing to pay Werth's bus ticket back to Philly if you want him! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 8th, 2011 at 1:13pm
Thanks for the offer, gimmekeef, but we have plenty of dead wood locked up on the payroll already!
The Nats' medium-term horizon looks very bright. The Phillies', not so much. It's going to take some very creative business management to rebuild the offense without holding a firesale. |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 8th, 2011 at 1:20pm
I'll bet the Fox execs are drooling at the prospect of a Milwaukee/Detroit World Series. :boring
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 8th, 2011 at 2:22pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 8th, 2011 at 1:20pm:
no doubt although that is what I am hoping for myself. hell they canceled the 94 season in mid year...just to keep my Expos out of the Series! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Oct 12th, 2011 at 7:27pm
nellie, please explain. epstein to the cubbies?
if he wins a series in five years, he is in the HOF, no? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 12th, 2011 at 11:03pm Starbuck wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 7:27pm:
No. God couldn't win a World Series with the Cubbies. :forfucksake |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 28th, 2011 at 11:38am
Best World Series game ever?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 28th, 2011 at 11:43am
It's weird. I'm like viscerally bothered by the Cards' defiance of probability. I take a certain comfort level in data, reason, all that stuff. Fairy Tales don't inspire me; they scare me. Then again, maybe it's because this particular Fairy Tale victimized my team.
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:25pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 11:38am:
A terrific game indeed, stayed up for the whole thang. Washington never should have batted for Feldman in the 11th, as he was their best pitcher. Jacoby Ellsbury, and several others would have tracked down that triple by Freese Jump ball with the below game, however Fisk "magic dance" homah beats last night's homah by Freese.... Game 6 Boston 7 Cincinnati 6 Tuesday, October 21, 1975 at Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts This game would go down as one of the greatest games not only in World Series and post-season history, but baseball history as well. Thanks to three days of rain in Boston, Sox manager Darrell Johnson now had the luxury of both of his best starters, Luis Tiant and Bill Lee, available for Games 6 and 7 at home to try to stave off the Reds. Fred Lynn opened the scoring in the first with a two-out, three-run homer off Reds starter Gary Nolan. Meanwhile, the fresh Tiant breezed through the first four innings, holding the Reds to all zeros. The Reds finally broke through in the fifth. With two on, Ken Griffey sent a drive to deep center that Lynn almost made a spectacular leaping catch on against the wall. Lynn would suffer a rib injury, but would continue the game. Both runs scored as Griffey ended up with a triple. Johnny Bench singled Griffey home to tie the game at 3–3. In the seventh, George Foster put the Reds ahead with a two-run double and, in the top of the eighth, César Gerónimo hit a solo homer to chase Tiant and give the Reds a 6–3 lead. In the bottom of the eighth, Pedro Borbon was on the mound, with Rawly Eastwick warming up in the Reds' bullpen. Borbon gave up a single to Fred Lynn, and then walked Rico Petrocelli. Eastwick was brought in, and proceeded to strike out Dwight Evans and retire Rick Burleson on a line-out to left, Eastwick looked on his way out of the inning. Bernie Carbo, a former first-round pick of the Reds, who had pinch-hit a home run in Game 3, was called on to bat for Roger Moret. Sparky Anderson was on the top step of the dugout, ready to call in left-hander Will McEnaney to pitch to the left-hand hitting Carbo. Anderson said later that he was concerned that the Sox would call on Juan Beniquez to pinch hit for Carbo if he made the move. Carbo looked hopelessly overmatched by Eastwick, and on a 2–2 pitch, fouled off a pitch on a swing that was described as having "all the athletic grace of a suburbanite raking leaves." On the next pitch, however, Carbo tied the game with a three-run home run just to the left of dead center field. Supposedly, as Carbo approached third base on his home run trot, (it was more of a sprint) Carbo yelled out to former teammate Pete Rose, "Hey, Pete…don't you wish you were that strong?" To which Rose replied, "This is fun." Carbo admitted in an interview with ESPN in 2010 that he was stoned on drugs and alcohol during this at-bat as well as in Game 7.[9] The Sox looked poised to win the game in the bottom of the ninth. With McEnaney, the Reds' seventh pitcher, on the mound, the Sox loaded the bases with no outs. Denny Doyle walked and went to third on a Carl Yastrzemski single. McEnaney then intentionally walked Carlton Fisk to load the bases to face the left-handed hitting Lynn. Lynn flied out on a short fly ball to Foster in left, and Foster gunned down Doyle, who tagged up and attempted to score. McEnaney then retired Petrocelli, ending the jam. Doyle would later admit that, when he tagged at third, he thought he heard Sox third-base coach Don Zimmer yelling "Go, go, go!", when, in reality, Zimmer was screaming, "No! No! No!". In the top of the eleventh, with Griffey on first, Joe Morgan hit a deep drive to right off Dick Drago that looked to be headed over the fence. Evans, however, made a spectacular catch near Pesky's Pole in right to rob Morgan and doubled Griffey off first. The Reds mounted another threat in the top of the twelfth. Tony Pérez and Foster slammed one-out singles off Rick Wise, but Wise retired Dave Concepción on a fly to right and struck out Geronimo. In a fitting end to such an exciting game, Fisk faced Pat Darcy, the eighth pitcher that Reds manager Sparky Anderson used. Fisk took Darcy's second pitch and lifted a high drive down the left-field line. The ball struck the foul pole just above the Green Monster. In what has now become an iconic baseball film highlight, the NBC left-field game camera caught Fisk wildly waving his arms to his right after hitting the ball and watching its path while drifting down the first base line, as if he was trying to coax the ball to "stay fair." The ball indeed stayed fair and the Red Sox had tied the Series. (According to the NBC cameraman Lou Gerard located above the third base stands, cameramen at the time were instructed to follow the flight of the ball. Instead Gerard was distracted by a rat nearby, thus he lost track of the baseball and instead decided to capture the image of Fisk "magically" waving the ball fair) The game was ranked Number 1 in MLB Network's 20 Greatest Games |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:17pm
Yeah Nellie. Not the best played game,with all the errors and pitching meltdowns. But hard to beat the drama. Rooting for the Cards to close it out. I'm a LaRussa fan....Not mention a significant piece of cabbage on St Louis. :boring
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Nellcote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:27pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:17pm:
Was a 10 on the Wicked Pissa index. LaRussa is a great strategic manager. I'm a AL man, however, it's my view Carpenter comes up big & STL finds a way to win, just like they have since mid August. I would not want to be on the other end of a Nolan Ryan discussion anytime today.... |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 28th, 2011 at 10:13pm
I am officially against the postseason, as currently constituted. Teams like New York, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia win their divisions by comfortable margins -- and they sit home to watch a wildcard duel with a weak-division winner. The wildcard is crap. The short series is crap. And, with MLB mulling a further dilution of the playoffs, it only promises to get worse.
Congratulations, Cardinals. You came out ahead in the casino. Kindly take your winnings and get out of my sight! |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 29th, 2011 at 9:37am
Mel sometimes even 200 million isn't enough to win.....Congrats Cards on a great win and without wild cards who would care about baseball when teams are in first by 20 games?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 29th, 2011 at 10:44am gimmekeef wrote on Oct 29th, 2011 at 9:37am:
That's a problem with the culture, not with baseball. Manufacturing "excitement" may be a way to satisfy the average football-loving, short-attention-span sports fan, but the integrity of the game has been compromised. If we're going to expand the wildcard and focus more on playoff drama, then MLB needs to lop off at least 30 regular-season games, and maybe more. If having the most wins after 162 games doesn't ultimately matter, then what's the point of having such a long season? |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 29th, 2011 at 12:56pm
Baseball lost its integrity a long time ago when they put an asterisk on Maris' record and looked the other way at steroids. Football loving short attention span fan? Gee Mel you know me well!...heck I'm still mad at baseball for 1994 when they robbed my Expos of a series........
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 29th, 2011 at 2:30pm Mel Belli wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 10:13pm:
If it was the Phillies who won the wild card and then the World Series you'd be telling us what a great idea it is. ::) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 29th, 2011 at 3:09pm
Gimmekeef: The attention-span comment was not directed at you personally, my brother.
Sweetcharmedlife: I will not deny that you might be right ;) |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by gimmekeef on Oct 29th, 2011 at 4:54pm Mel Belli wrote on Oct 29th, 2011 at 3:09pm:
Mel...we're cool no problemo |
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Oct 30th, 2011 at 5:21pm
The question now is, where goes Pujols?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Steel Wheels on Oct 31st, 2011 at 3:20pm
The real question is when do the Phillies send me the invoice for the 2012 tickets....I can feel it coming soon!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Nov 6th, 2011 at 10:24am
phils sign thome? huh? mel, please explain. you ain't gonna give him a glove, are you?
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Mel Belli on Nov 6th, 2011 at 7:01pm
I'm hearing he's gonna train to play once or twice a week at first until Howard comes back....
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:01pm
Nice trade by the Giants. Getting Melky Cabrera for Jonathon Sanchez. I would of traded that nutcase Sanchez for a used rosin bag. But we get an actual real life hitter instead, nice!
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Title: Re: MLB 2011 Post by Starbuck on Nov 8th, 2011 at 1:06pm
cabrera was a great midseason pickup for my fantasy team. he hit over .300 for the second half. why is he wandering around so much? you'd think someone would lock him to a long term deal.
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