ROCKS OFF - The Rolling Stones Message Board | |
http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl
GENERAL >> MAIN BOARD >> Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1298379231 Message started by Edith Grove on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 6:53am |
Title: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Edith Grove on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 6:53am
IT'S MONKEE BUSINESS AGAIN!
The Monkees are set to tour Britain this year - 45 years after they first formed Tuesday February 22,2011 By Adam Edwards Here they come, walking down the street … 45 years after they first formed the original TV boy band are back – and they are touring Britain this year In 1966 Britain ruled the airwaves. We had knocked the US off its rock and roll perch with our pop groups – first and foremost The Beatles but also The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks and The Hollies. So America took a leaf out of our book. A group of actors and musicians were brought together for an American network TV show modelled on The Beatles’ film A Hard Day’s Night. With the show came a soundtrack album that shot to the top of the charts in both the UK and the US. Within a year the band had outsold The Beatles and The Stones combined. Their name? The Monkees. Here was a phenomenon that nobody had predicted – a manufactured boy band that became for a short time the most successful pop act on the planet. So much so that Jimi Hendrix was once their opening act (dropped after complaints that his act was too erotic). John Lennon called them “the Marx Brothers of rock”. You could even argue that without them there would have been no Take That, Boyzone or JLS. Even the Sex Pistols, who were created by Malcolm McLaren, included a Monkees song, (I’m Not Your) Steppin’ Stone, in their repertoire. Yesterday it was announced that three of the four Monkees, Britishborn Davy Jones plus Mickey Dolenz and Peter Tork, have reformed to celebrate their 45th anniversary and will tour the UK this spring. Only Mike Nesmith – the one with the woolly bobble hat – will be missing. “At first The Monkees were seen as a poor imitation of The Beatles, particularly in the UK,” says Peter Buckley in his book Rough Guide To Rock. “They weren’t a proper band who had grown up together and played together. They were strangers who could sing a bit.” It was a 1965 advertisement in the daily show business newspaper Variety that prompted 437 hopefuls to audition for a TV show about four young men sharing a carefree lifestyle. The format of the show, the first of its kind, involved the day-to-day adventures of a pop group obviously modelled on The Beatles. The music was written and performed by session musicians. The first episode aired the following year and became an almost instant hit. The songs from the show were put on to an album, called with perhaps a slight lack of originality The Monkees, but which nonetheless became a bestseller around the world with such chart-toppers as Last Train To Clarksville and I’m a Believer. Merchandising was not slow to follow – from a Monkee Talking Hand Puppet to Monkee toy wallets and pencil cases. Davy Jones became a teenage pin-up – the Justin Bieber of his day – while the others all had large followings and their own fan clubs. A second No1 album followed, which musically had almost nothing to do with the band. However its success put enormous pressure on them to play live. Eventually they would do so – but only after it was revealed that they had not played their instruments on their albums. “The press went into full-scale war against us,” said Mike Nesmith later. “They said that The Monkees were four guys who had no credits, no credibility whatsoever and have been trying to trick us into believing they are a rock band. It was not true but it stuck.” By 1968 viewing figures for the second TV series began to drop and after 58 episodes the show was cancelled. A year later Peter Tork announced he was leaving. The Monkees released two albums as a trio, neither of which was particularly successful, and finally in 1970 they were reduced to a duo, Mickey Dolenz and Davy Jones. “The Monkees have been dismissed as the work of a bunch of hired hands,” said Buckley. “But their records are celebrated by many as the pinnacle of trash culture, mixing poppy psychedelic with catchy folk rock. Almost by accident they were a credible band – although the band was never going to make it with the rock crowd.” They did make one last effort to be taken seriously with the production of the feature film called Head, co-written by the actor Jack Nicholson. It was a dig at hippy culture and had a cast that included boxer Sonny Liston and rock star Frank Zappa. But neither the film nor the soundtrack album was a success. And that might have been that with The Monkees forgotten like so many other Sixties and Seventies bands. But their undeniably catchy tunes and, most important of all, endless repeats of their hit TV show kept them in the public’s memory. In 1986, five years after the birth of music channel MTV, the station ran a 24-hour Monkees Special. It sparked a huge interest among a new generation of pop fans. It led Tork, Jones and Dolenz to get back together for a 20th anniversary tour. Nesmith, who had been more disillusioned than the others by the whole Monkees experience in the Sixties, refused to take part. The band later re-issued on all its old albums on CD which all made it into the American charts again. “The MTV generation loved the Monkees re-runs,” said Buckley. “It has been said that the Monkees were the first MTV band. And certainly they began the idea in the Sixties – albeit accidentally – of using a music video as promotion and the marketing of a TV show to pre-teen audiences.” Now 45 years after the group was first manufactured, Jones, Dolenz and Tork are to tour once more, with dates lined up at numerous UK venues this May, including Liverpool, Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham and London’s Royal Albert Hall. Nesmith continues to refuse to rejoin the band. “Mike Nesmith is not an entertainer in the sense that Mickey, Peter and I are,” said Jones last year. “He has his back to the audience half the time. He’s a brilliant businessman but as a person he’s very aloof and separate.” They may have been created by television executives and their musical reputation may be a bit suspect, even though the film Head and the album from it are now regarded as cult classics. However anyone who ever sang along to that catchy Monkees theme tune will be delighted to hear that here they come, walking down the street all over again. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/230515/It-s-Monkee-business-again-/It-s-Monkee-business-again-#ixzz1EgviNe4A |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by gimmekeef on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 7:05am
A Bigger Lip Synch Tour?.......what a joke.....Herman's Hermits opening?
|
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Kilroy on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 9:07am
Next! :boring
Some good songs and..................Next! I rather see paint dry, or Herman Hermits. Never like Mickey's setup of the drums. :wtf3 |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Some Guy on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 9:38am
the economy is tough.
|
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:40am
I'm sorry,no Mike Nesmith,it's not The Monkees.
|
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by AngieBlue on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 12:23pm
No Jimi to open for them.
No Mike Nesmith. Nope, not the same. |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Heart Of Stone on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 12:29pm
When they came out, a lot of people liked them but I never took them serious, I am & was a big Stones fan, also into garage bands, San Francisco era bands & blues, etc. I saw a movie about them a while back, I forget the name of it, one of those made for T.V. movies, which enlightened me a lot about what really was going on, that two of them were musicians, & they wanted to write their own songs, which the T.V. people & Don Krishner didn't want, they wanted to continue to have the top songwriters, Boyce & Hart, Neil Diamond, etc to write all their songs.
To go on a tour will just be a money making scheme, their just a nostalgic act that really were just around for 4 years, & Mike Nesmith, by not going with them, shows he doesn't care for the money, maybe he wants his reputation kept in tack. The Song "Steppin' Stone" was done before The Monkees did it, Paul Revere & Raiders had it on a album "Midnight Ride" in '65, another song written by one of those top songwriting teams or people. I liked "Pleasant Valley Sunday" that's probably the only song that sticks out as great. |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Some Guy on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 12:36pm
sources tell me they will wait till 2016 for the 50th anniversary.
|
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Sioux on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:21pm
Ahhhh, the "pre-fab 4"...er..."3" :)
As a young teen, I liked the show. Not that much on TV for us teenyboppers! Yes, Nesmith and Tork were musicians. Tork hung in the Village, and his friend, Stephen Stills actually auditioned for the part that Pete eventually got! Interestingly enough, last year, Dolenz and Mark Lindsay did a number of concerts around the country, along with....yep. Peter Noone {Herman} lol Anyway, they would all do some of their hits, and then Dolenz would come out and start "Steppin' Stone". Mark would come out and say "Hey! I did that song too!" And they would procede to do it together. The Raider's version was kick ass, compared to the Monkees---the biggest difference being Mark's growling, grown-up-man vocals as opposed to Mickey's rather lame, boyish sound. |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Stark on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:26pm
........Actually the story goes that Nesmiths Mother invented and patented White-out ( The stuff used for erasing typing and writing mistakes) and inherited a fortune.
So, $$$$$$$ was not a factor in him needing to join the re-union whereas the other three I'm sure could use the cash |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by gimmekeef on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:26pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:40am:
didn't you mean Neil Diamond as he wrote and played on some of the hits....??????? |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Stark on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:48pm
Not talking about the 'behind the curtain people who pulled the strings.......Just the main reason why Nesmith has always opted out of Reunions.He inherited more than I'm sure the whole Monkees earnings from day one added together. In addition to which I think he always felt that he was the 'Real' Musician in the band so a double whammy of FU
However...who was on The Brady Bunch and had Marcia petition to appear and date her? White out inheritance?...............Go on a date w/ Marcia? These are the stuff that big tough men must sort out |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Edith Grove on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:55pm Sioux wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:21pm:
Well, I'm glad that worked out the way it did ! :smilemick |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by sweetcharmedlife on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 2:10pm gimmekeef wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:26pm:
Now that I didn't know. :wtf1 |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Starbuck on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 5:57pm
at the very least, we should be happy that peter is in touring shape. he has had bouts of cancer.
howe many well known bands from the 60s still have all four members left alive?? |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Joey on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 6:18pm
" howe many well known bands from the 60s still have all four members left alive ?? "
!!!!!! |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Sioux on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:54pm Edith Grove wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:55pm:
I agree! |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Sioux on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:57pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 2:10pm:
Yeah, they recorded a lot of people's songs, including Carole King, Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and Neil Diamond. " I'm a Believer", "Look Out, Here Comes Tomorrow" and "A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You" were all Diamond compositions. I liked Nesmith's songs actually. :) Hey, I was just a kid then! lol |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Sioux on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:59pm Starbuck wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 5:57pm:
Very true. He's been through the mill with a rare type of head and neck cancer. He has a pretty cool band as well, called "Shoe Suede Blues". |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Edith Grove on Mar 5th, 2011 at 6:04am
Secret life of Mike Nesmith, the missing Monkee
by Simon Boyle, Daily Mirror 5/03/2011 THE man refuelling his car in a blue sweater and baseball cap could pass for any one of millions of pensioners the world over. But this particular driver, who goes unrecognised by even his own neighbours, is far from normal. Most OAPs haven’t shifted 50 million records and amassed a personal fortune of more than £30million. This one has – and if you look a little closer you might recognise the reclusive Mike Nesmith, the missing Monkee. Nesmith, who quit as the band’s woolly hat wearing lead guitarist in 1970, was pottering about as normal this week after his old bandmates Davy Jones, Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork announced a surprise reunion tour. He now lives in Carmel, a small town buried in a valley between the hills of northern California, where he walks down the high street without attracting a second look from other residents. In fact the musician, whose band outsold The Beatles and The Rolling Stones combined in 1967, is so secretive even his closest neighbours are oblivious to the superstar in their midst. The hairdresser who trims his neat back and sides even offered the “nice old man” a discount on his recent cut. Jodi Sherman, who runs a salon near Nesmith’s home, gasped as she saw a picture of the star. Jodi, 58, says: “Oh my God, I cut his hair! I used to listen to them all the time. I would never have guessed... holy c**p! “He was here a couple of weeks ago. I didn’t know he had a dime. I was thinking he’s quite poor, so I cut him a break. I recently raised the price of our haircuts to $27 but I gave him his for $25. He’s paying $27 next time.” She rushed over to her appointments book, where “Michael” had been scrawled in between hair rinses for “Maggie” and “Peg”. “You would never know he’s a multi-millionaire,” adds Jodi, who has lived nearby for 20 years. “We chat as I work but he’s never once mentioned being in The Monkees. He’s a real nice person, but nobody around here knows who he is. “He doesn’t act like a celebrity. He wears normal clothes. He seems such a regular guy and he’s very modest. He absolutely does not flash his wealth about.” The Monkees were formed in LA in 1966 and enjoyed a string of massive global hits including Daydream Believer. They also had a hugely successful TV show, whose theme tune Hey, Hey, We’re The Monkees was instantly recognisable around the world. But as tensions increased in the band, Tork left in 1969, followed a year later by Nesmith, who was forced to buy out the remaining three years of his contract to concentrate on his solo career. Hearing about his decision to turn down The Monkees’ reunion offer, Jodi, 58, insists: “He should join them for sure. When he next comes in I’ll tell him, ‘You need to go on that tour, it’ll be fun’.” Nesmith, 68, lives a five-minute drive away on a private gated community called Sleepy Hollow. According to a property website he bought his £1.7million home in 2001 – a year after he married his third wife Victoria Kennedy. When the Mirror spoke to other locals they react with similar shock. Looking at his picture, Mary-Ann Goings, who is in her 50s and works at the grocery store, exclaims: “Oh yeah, I see him in here all the time. I didn’t know he was one of The Monkees. I hadn’t a clue that was him. “I never knew I was serving groceries to a multi-millionaire Monkee and I’m a big fan. He comes in pretty regular with a younger woman.” Trish Weber, 47, who works in the deli, says: “I’ve lived here all my life, I know exactly who Mike Nesmith was as I’m a huge Monkees fan, but I had no idea he lived right on our doorstep.” Nesmith’s substantial personal fortune received a hefty cash injection in 1980 when he inherited the estate of his mother Bette. While Michael was a 13-year-old schoolboy, Bette invented the typewriter correction fluid which would later become the Liquid Paper empire, before her business was sold to Gillette for £30 million. Nesmith received around £15million in cash when his mother died a few months after the sale. Despite his wealth, his favourite restaurant is still the local steakhouse, Wills Fargo, where he always has the £9.19 Cobb salad. He may have refused to join the Monkees’ forthcoming reunion tour in May, but Nesmith keeps himself busy. He has run a media company since 1974 called the Pacific Arts Corporation. The company’s small studio in Sand City – around 20 miles from Nesmith’s home – allows local bands to record music and upload it to the web. He is also president of the Gihon Foundation – a charity set up by his mother in 1978, and which received the second half of her fortune. According to their website, “the foundation produces live performances of emerging and established artists which it delivers free and open to the public”. One worker at the furniture warehouse next door to his studio, Eric Maximoff, 39, says: “He is still deeply passionate about the music business, but he doesn’t want to be in the limelight himself.” His colleague Ana Warner, 42, adds: “He doesn’t flaunt his fame. If he did, people would constantly ask him about being that guy from The Monkees.” That may be true – but they’re just trying to be friendly... http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/03/05/secret-life-of-mike-nesmith-the-missing-monkee-115875-22966741/ |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Paranoid Android on Mar 5th, 2011 at 8:01am
Nesmith was so cool...he really had a passion for music and the industry...
I recall a speech he once made ( for the grammys?) where he felt disgusted about the racial polarization of music... claiming that stations and formats claiming to be "Black Stations" and the Rock v Disco wars etc were appaling and that music transcends all racial barriers etc...it was really quite moving and radical and obvious at the same time. He had a great sense of humor too...see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNJy-OgCzB0 |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 5th, 2011 at 8:42am
Thanks EG, great article, I think Mike had his fill of being one of the Monkees, & just wants to live a private life, surprised a lot of people didn't recognize him, but then again The Monkees were back in the 60's, quite a while ago.
|
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Zack on Mar 5th, 2011 at 8:51am Stark wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 1:48pm:
That was Davy. He even cut a track on the show. It went, "Girl, look what you've done to me," and went on to say something about making the "mornings brighter" and the "nighttimes nicer." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7TxTU_LYp0 |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Heart Of Stone on Mar 7th, 2011 at 4:59pm
Exclusive: The Monkees Resolve Personal Issues for 45th Anniversary Tour
'I had a meltdown on the last tour,' says guitarist Peter Tork. 'I ticked the other guys off good and proper' Peter Tork, Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz of The Monkees pose during portrait session to announce the bands 45th anniversary tour held at The Groucho Club on February 21, 2011 in London, England. Dave J Hogan/Getty Share327 By Andy Greene March 7, 2011 12:15 PM ET When The Monkees last hit the road together 10 years ago things didn't go so well. Guitarist Peter Tork quit near the end, later telling the press that Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz were drinking to the point that they became "mean and abusive." In 2009 Jones told the National Enquirer that he had no interest in a reunion, adding that he "couldn't imagine sharing a stage with Micky Dolenz." So it came as surprise last week when they announced a 45th anniversary world tour. "It was the estimation of certain professional people that this could work," Tork tells Rolling Stone. "They asked if the three of us were interested in doing it. After some discussion we all said 'yeah.' That's just about the bottom line of it." Random Notes: Rock's Hottest Pics In a significant shift, Tork now takes full responsibility for the backstage problems on the 2001 tour. "We were getting along pretty well until I had a meltdown," he says. "I ticked the other guys off good and proper and it was a serious mistake on my part. I was not in charge of myself to the best of my ability – the way I hope I have become since. I really just behaved inappropriately, honestly. I apologized to them." He now says alcohol played only a small role in the group's problems. "I'm sure it played a part, but I cannot honestly say it was anything more than a very slight part," he says. "It could have been very, very minor. But the main thing was that I had a meltdown and I messed up." With the personal problems resolved, the three remaining Monkees were able to sit down and plan their tour. "We're going to do all the Monkee hits," Tork says. "Starting with the five major ones: The two believers ['Daydream Believer' and 'I'm A Believer'], 'Last Train To Clarksville,' 'Pleasant Valley Sunday' and '(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone.' Then we'll do the top twenties and the top hundreds and then the obscure ones." Of the many deep cuts to draw from, Tork hopes to revive the a cappella song "Riu Chiu," and "As We Go Along" and "Porpoise Song" from the Head soundtrack. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/exclusive-the-monkees-resolve-personal-issues-for-45th-anniversary-tour-20110307 |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Child of the Moon on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:10am Starbuck wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 5:57pm:
Agreed, Bucky! I'm glad Peter is doing better. The guy is the soul of that band, and certainly the only one who still is devoted to playing music for a living. I make no secret of the fact that I have always loved the Monkees, both on record and on film, so it's cool to see 'em getting ready to hit the road again. Funny, I was just thinking about it not two days ago... Anyway, I feel like the detractors are just too narrow-minded in their musical viws to actully discover what else they did besides I'm a Believer and Last Train to Clarksville. In my humble opinion, their third album, Headquarters, is the best (and most sophisticated) garage band album ever made. Not a whole lot of other bands were playing pedal steel guitar and banjo on their albums during the Summer of Love. I refer you to "I'll Spend My Life with You," "You Told Me," "Mr. Webster," "Shades of Gray," and "Band 6." |
Title: Re: Hey! Hey! It's the Monkees again ! Post by Child of the Moon on Mar 14th, 2011 at 12:13am Heart Of Stone wrote on Mar 7th, 2011 at 4:59pm:
Now, those, right there? I would pay damn good money to hear those played live. Well, technically, I have already heard 'em do Porpoise Song, back in '97. Needless to say, it was awesome. |
ROCKS OFF - The Rolling Stones Message Board » Powered by YaBB 2.5.2! YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2025. All Rights Reserved. |