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Title: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by mojoman on Nov 8th, 2010 at 1:52pm
By J. Taylor Rushing
In his last two months in office, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist is considering a December surprise: a posthumous pardon for Jim Morrison, lead singer of The Doors, for indecent exposure charges after an infamous 1969 Miami concert. In a phone interview with The Hill, Crist said “stay tuned” regarding the idea of a posthumous pardon for the singer who died in Paris in 1971. Crist on Tuesday lost his independent bid for the U.S. Senate and will replaced by Republican Rick Scott in January. “Candidly, it's something that I haven’t given a lot of thought to, but it's something I’m willing to look into in the time I have left,” said Crist. “Anything is possible.” Morrison, a native of Melbourne, Fla., was convicted of indecent exposure and profanity after a March 1, 1969, concert in Miami in which he allegedly exposed himself and acted lewdly. He had seen a provocative stage play the night before in Los Angeles and was purported to have drank steadily that day en route to Florida. Other band members have stated in interviews over the years that Morrison was clearly drunk at the concert, as obvious from sound recordings which showed he also tried to provoke the audience at various times. Ironically, Morrison was cleared of drunkenness charges in the ensuing trial, as well as a felony charge for lewd and lascivious behavior, but was convicted of exposure and profanity. Morrison and his lawyers had hoped to turn the trial into a First Amendment battle, and he claimed in several later interviews that the trial was a sham. Morrison’s death in 1971 ended the case without him ever serving any prison time. Doors fans have clamored for years to get Morrison’s name cleared, but Crist’s predecessors in the governor’s office were unmoved. In 2007, Crist said he would consider it, acknowledging “there was some doubt about how solid the case was.” Both Morrison and Crist attended Florida State University in Tallahassee, which Crist cites as one reason he is considering the issue. Crist hasn’t moved on a Morrison pardon since then — but time is the difference now. Pardons in Florida must go through the Board of Executive Clemency, which has one final meeting Dec. 9. Crist, Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink, Attorney General Bill McCollum and Agriculture Commissioner Charles Bronson all sit on the board, but all will leave office in January. Crist’s Senate run prevented him from seeking a second term, while Bronson is term-limited, and the unsuccessful bids for governor by Sink and McCollum will force them from office. Under state law, a pardon must have the consent of Crist and at least two other members. Bronson spokesman Terence McElroy said Bronson is willing to consider it, while a McCollum spokesman said McCollum would consider it only if Crist brings it forward. The uncertainty frustrates Doors fans such as Dave Diamond, a TV producer in Ohio who has mounted a petition drive and letter-writing campaign to Crist on Morrison’s behalf for years. Diamond, who has compiled a website and an 11-part YouTube series to explain the effort, wants Crist to see Morrison as a Florida citizen, not a rock star. “Basically all we're doing these days is waiting,” Diamond said Friday. “This is the last chance Gov. Crist will have with the board to make good on his 2007 commitment to give this longstanding case a fair review and a vote in favor for or against the special posthumous pardon request.” Diamond notes the Dec. 9 pardon board hearing falls one day after Morrison’s birthday — the late singer would have been 67 today. In letters to Crist, he notes that in 2003, then-Gov. George Pataki (R-N.Y.) pardoned the late comedian Lenny Bruce for a 1965 obscenity conviction. And in 2006, charges against the late Enron founder Kenneth Lay were tossed by a Texas judge. Both Lay and Morrison died pending appeal, Diamond points out, but Lay’s charges were abated within three months while Morrison’s charges haven’t been reconsidered in 40 years. “We are still hopeful that he will see this case through,” Diamond said of Crist. “He's the only governor in Florida that's even acknowledged this effort at all, and we appreciate his time towards this matter.” Crist said he won’t make the decision lightly, noting the many complexities surrounding the 41-year-old case. Numerous sound recordings from the show exist, for example, but Morrison’s defenders say none of the scores of photographs from the show prove the exposure charge. “We would have to look into all of that,” Crist said |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Pdog on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:10pm
this won't bring Jim back
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by gimmekeef on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:11pm
I'd bet Jesus Crist already has...............
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:38pm gimmekeef wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:11pm:
LOL. I had to reread that. I thought it said Christ considers Jim Morrison pardon. Thought Mojo had a hotline into the G man. :o |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by mojoman on Nov 8th, 2010 at 3:50pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:38pm:
G man=Gazza? When I was back there in seminary school There was a person there Who put forth the proposition That you can petition the Lord with prayer Petition the Lord with prayer Petition the Lord with prayer You cannot petition the Lord with prayer......... |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:14pm mojoman wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
You know Gazza is always Living on a Prayer. :wow |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Pdog on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:25pm
Is Crist a musician? Huckabee got TV show on Fox after he pardoned Keith, but... after reading Keith's book, there was nothing to be pardoned for, he wasn't charged... people confuse me, and the motives to do things like this... who fucking knows, politicians are weird as fuck...
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by mojoman on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:27pm Pdog wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
he was in a trio called the Holy Trinity and before that with the Apostles........ |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Pdog on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:39pm mojoman wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
weren't the apostles a mens choir from new jersey? |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by mojoman on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:47pm Pdog wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:39pm:
you know these guys d? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apostles |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Tom on Nov 8th, 2010 at 5:15pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 4:14pm:
LOL ;D ;D ;D 'cause he's living in sin ;D |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Gazza on Nov 8th, 2010 at 5:54pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 2:38pm:
He has! |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Ginda on Nov 8th, 2010 at 6:17pm
Oh....I think the closeted Charlie Crist has probably given Jim Morrison plenty of thought.
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 8th, 2010 at 6:41pm Gazza wrote on Nov 8th, 2010 at 5:54pm:
Our Lord and savior! |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Honky Tonk Man on Nov 9th, 2010 at 5:01am
Why? It's not like he was wrongly convicted of murder, is it? It was 40+ years ago and is now part of the Morrison mythology. Leave it at that, please.
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Heart Of Stone on Nov 18th, 2010 at 1:55pm
Florida Governor: Why I Want to Pardon Jim Morrison
Charlie Crist tells 'Rolling Stone' that the late Doors frontman was unfairly prosecuted in 1969 Most Popular Estate of Edmund Teske/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty By Andy Greene Nov 17, 2010 5:43 PM EST Forty-one years after Jim Morrison was arrested in Miami for indecent exposure at a concert, Florida Governor Charlie Crist has decided to pardon the late Doors frontman. "After reviewing the case and getting briefed on it, more and more it seems like a real injustice was done," Crist tells Rolling Stone. "It seemed to me that it would be a tragedy to have this be the lasting legacy of his life. I just wanted to give an opportunity for forgiveness." The pardon will go through after a formal clemency meeting on December 9th. Crist does not think it will meet any opposition. Crist admits that the pardon is largely a symbolic gesture. "It's the symbolism of doing what's right," says Crist. "But I'm pretty sure that it's more than symbolic to his family. I used to be attorney general and my predecessor taught me that it's very important to prosecute the guilty, but it may even be more important to exonerate the innocent." Read what Marilyn Manson had to say about The Doors Morrison was arrested after a 1969 concert at the Dinner Key Auditorium in Miami for indecent exposure, even though there was never any proof he actually exposed himself. The incident caused several subsequent Doors concerts to be cancelled and many believe that it hastened the demise of the group. In reviewing the evidence, Crist believes that the Miami authorities unjustly went after Morrison because he was a counter-culture icon. "It has the appearance of that, at a minimum," says Crist. "The spouse of the now-deceased Assistant Attorney General who handled the case recently said her husband thought there was 'flimsy evidence.' That clearly puts forward a bit of doubt about the case itself." Crist, whose term as Florida Governor expires on January 4th, says that this won't be his final pardon. "I'm getting lots of requests in the past few weeks of a similar nature," he says. "But none with the sort of noteworthiness of Jim Morrison." http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/235302 Sorry if it's already been posted. |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by uncleson on Nov 18th, 2010 at 3:54pm
Its about time.
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by corgi37 on Nov 19th, 2010 at 1:50am
Flashing ya dick is a bloody national sport here in Australia! 'bout time the Yanks got with the program.
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Heart Of Stone on Dec 23rd, 2010 at 12:59pm
The Doors Not Satisfied With Morrison Pardon, Want Formal Apology
He 'did not need to be pardoned for anything,' remaining members say Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images By Matthew Perpetua December 23, 2010 10:20 AM EDT The surviving members of The Doors have rejected an official pardon granted to their late frontman Jim Morrison by the State of Florida earlier this month, insisting that the singer is owed a full apology by the State as well as the City of Miami. The pardon, for a lewd and lascivious behavior charge levied after a performance in Miami in 1969, was the result of a unanimous vote by Florida's clemency board, who took into account testimony by witnesses who said that they did not see Morrison expose himself and that the singer was arrested four days after the concert. Jim Morrison's Indecency Arrest: Rolling Stone's Original Coverage Nonetheless, the remaining Doorss, along with members of the Morrison family, have issued a statement insisting upon a formal apology for the singer's arrest and prosecution. In the statement, Morrison's bandmates argue that he did not need "to be pardoned for anything," and allege that the charges "were largely an opportunity for grandstanding by ambitious politicians" and "an affront to free speech." Read Rolling Stone's 1967 review of Strange Days The Doors have plenty of reason to hold a grudge over this charge. This legal trouble is a crucial part of the band's history, and the arrest for charges of indecency resulted in an entire tour canceled by venues in each of the 20 cities on the band's itinerary. The controversy led to further investigation of the band, and intense public outcry from conservative critics. Though Morrison was eventually acquitted of all but two misdemeanor charges and sentenced to six months of hard labor, he was still appealing his conviction at the time of his death in Paris in 1971. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-doors-not-satisfied-with-morrison-pardon-want-formal-apology-20101223 |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 24th, 2010 at 3:40pm corgi37 wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 1:50am:
Joey does it all the time. :perverted |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Bitch on Dec 26th, 2010 at 8:55pm corgi37 wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 1:50am:
I'm moving to Australia! |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 27th, 2010 at 7:09am
Bitch, no need to move that far away! PM me your email address for a photographic treat!
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by Zack on Dec 27th, 2010 at 8:00am Heart Of Stone wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
Indeed, there were 150 photos submitted into evidence at the trial and not one of Mr. Mojo Johnson! Although, according to the Hopkins bio, Jim later said, while sitting in a bar, "I wanted to see what it looked like in the spotlight." He might have just been going for laughs at that point. |
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Title: Re: Crist willing to consider Jim Morrison pardon Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 27th, 2010 at 9:19am Bitch wrote on Dec 26th, 2010 at 8:55pm:
Just give your number to Brett Favre. |
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