Listened to it in its entirety today. This is probably the only Stones album that doesn't move me at all. The album cover is boring and lame, the lyrics are completely pointless, the guitars are uninspired and thin, and the production is soulless with no dynamic sound at all. You can definitely tell that it was digitally produced. The only redeeming factors are the open-g riff of "Rock and a hard place" and "slipping away," which is a great, great tune.  

Not to mentioned it was followed by their least rock n' roll tour. Your thoughts?

"  This is probably the only Stones album that doesn't move me at all. The album cover is boring and lame, the lyrics are completely pointless, the guitars are uninspired and thin, and the production is soulless with no dynamic sound at all.  "


This makes young Joey sad .


Steel Wheels is a GREAT album   ****   ( " Terrifying "  is one of the Stones BEST songs as well as " Almost Hear You Sigh " )  . The live version off of ' Tokyo " The Egg " '90  ' is killer amd simply breathtaking .

You may NOT touch My Monkey !!!!!!   Ninea !!!  ... NINEA SHEA !!!!!

" Hit Me Ronnie !!!! "

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I have a soft spot for that album because it was new when I was a lad who just discovered how great the Stones are. These days, I spin it probably once a year, if at all. Lets just say it's not one of their greatest. The only two albums I spin less are Bang and B2B. Bang is not even on my iPod. Steel Wheels is.

my first show was at the metrodome in november of 89. loved the 50 foot inflatable women on "HTW"....so i have a soft spot for the album.

wait a minute.

i think 1989 was the last time i listened to that album. nevermind!

Great album and tour. 25 to 28 song set lists, filled with rock and roll classics like Bitch, Shattered, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Midnight Rambler, and Jumpin' Jack Flash. That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's....Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes was one of the people singing the praises of that album and tour.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 8:45pm:

Great album and tour. 25 to 28 song set lists, filled with rock and roll classics like Bitch, Shattered, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Midnight Rambler, and Jumpin' Jack Flash. That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's....Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes was one of the people singing the praises of that album and tour.

I agree with you, "That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's...."
If you remember the shit that was going on then you d have to agree also, God bless The Stones.............They've saved R N R for me for years.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 8:45pm:

Great album and tour. 25 to 28 song set lists, filled with rock and roll classics like Bitch, Shattered, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Midnight Rambler, and Jumpin' Jack Flash. That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's....Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes was one of the people singing the praises of that album and tour.

I think everyone in the band was very "on" during that tour, especially Mick. His voice was very powerful and he was extremely active on stage. But there's so much reverb in the sound, and the way everything is rehearsed and all the lights and people on stage take away the intimacy and rawness of the Stones, which to me is what makes 'em so special. Gotta say though, this version of "bitch" really rocks. Just listen to Keith's solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-clO9--xszc

AND JOEY!!! Some new material, I see. I like!

Kilroy wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 9:02pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:45pm: Great album and tour. 25 to 28 song set lists, filled with rock and roll classics like Bitch, Shattered, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Midnight Rambler, and Jumpin' Jack Flash. That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's....Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes was one of the people singing the praises of that album and tour. I agree with you, "That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's...." If you remember the shit that was going on then you d have to agree also, God bless The Stones.............They've saved R N R for me for years.

I was not alive during that time.  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey



I thought Nirvana was credited with saving Rock n' Roll, no?

Loved the Steel Wheels tour.

A healthy dollop of new stuff mixed with nuggets like 'Ruby Tuesday', 'Play With Fire', 'Dead Flowers'...

And the 'Paint It, Black', '2000 Light Years', 'Sympathy' and 'Gimme Shelter' segment still blows me away.  

But - "saving rock and roll" is a wee bit of hyperbole, imo.
Others might suggest that all the extra musicians marked the start of the "Vegas" Stones era.

I UNDERSTAND EVERYONES COMPLAINTS ABOUT STEEL WHEELS ALBUM AND TOUR.BUT I LISTEN TO IT PROBABLY ONCE A MONTH ,AS I DO ALL THEIR RECORDS ..IT GOT THEM BACK TOGETHER AND HELPED ME HAVE SOME OF THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE...VERY SOFT SPOT FOR STEEL WHEELS...THE SONGS THAT STAND THE TEST OF TIME ARE ALMOST HEAR YOU SIGH,CONTINENTAL DRIFT,SLIPPIN AWAY AND BLINDED BY LOVE..THE REST ARE PRETTY MUCH THROWAWAYS..ESPECIALLY ROCK AND A HARD PLACE..

Holden wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 9:15pm:

Kilroy wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:02pm: Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:45pm: Great album and tour. 25 to 28 song set lists, filled with rock and roll classics like Bitch, Shattered, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Happy, Before They Make Me Run, Midnight Rambler, and Jumpin' Jack Flash. That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's....Chris Robinson of the Black Crowes was one of the people singing the praises of that album and tour. I agree with you, "That tour was so rock and roll, many people credited it with saving rock and roll in the late 80's early 90's...." If you remember the shit that was going on then you d have to agree also, God bless The Stones.............They've saved R N R for me for years. I was not alive during that time.  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey Yes Them To most definitely but for me an old guy The Stones have continued to save the Rock nd Roll IMO But yes The Boys  With Teen Angst, saved it also for many............ I thought Nirvana was credited with saving Rock n' Roll, no?

1989 was a great year for rock and roll. Aerosmith's PUMP, Slowhand's Journeyman, Flowers in the Dirt by Sir Paul, and Steel Wheels. Steel Wheels was everywhere. The press was all over the album and tour, and news seemed to make magazine and tv show appearances for months afterward. The album was also radio friendly, and the stations in Philly, WMMR and WYSP, played cuts from it all the time.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 9:56pm:

1989 was a great year for rock and roll. Aerosmith's PUMP, Slowhand's Journeyman, Flowers in the Dirt by Sir Paul, and Steel Wheels. Steel Wheels was everywhere. The press was all over the album and tour, and news seemed to make magazine and tv show appearances for months afterward. The album was also radio friendly, and the stations in Philly, WMMR and WYSP, played cuts from it all the time.

YEP..THE STONES RULED THE WORLD THAT YEAR,NO DOUBT..3.4 MILLION IN 59 SHOWS!

Steel Wheels hasn't been in the CD player since I transfered my favourite tracks onto my i-Pod. To be honest, I really don't think it'll be getting another turn untill the time comes when my current i-Pod needs replacing.

As an album? It's OK. There are some very good numbers: 'Sad, Sad, Sad', 'Almost Hear You Sigh', 'Mixed Emotions', 'Slipping Away' etc. It is a lot better than some give it credit for.

Actually got this out a couple of months ago. I used to absolutely adore it, but i have calmed down now. It's ok. The 80's production ruins it for me.

But i still love "hearts for sale" & "Almost hear you sigh". And "mixed emotions" is ok too. RAAHP kind of goes no where, and oh my, the synth on it spoils it so bad!

Horrible, dated production mars what are a decent collection of songs. The mixes on the 'Monitor Mixes' recordings (first made available exclusive to Rocks Off four years ago!) are what I prefer to listen to.

Unfortunately they decided to mix the balls out of the songs.

Still some great moments. 'Continental Drift' is still one of my ten favourite Stones songs ever and "Almost Hear You Sigh" isn't far behind it - up there with 'Wild Horses' and the like as one of their finest ballads. "Slipping Away" may have become a bit over-familiar with being played frequently in concert down the years, but it contains one of Keith's best ever vocal performances. Jagger's singing also shows a return to form after the way he tended to bark and growl his way through much of the 80's.

Still a bit of affection for that era as it's the album many of us never thought they'd make again. Yet, two decades later, if they went just three years between albums we'd be saying "why so soon?"

Holden wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 6:53pm:

The only redeeming factors are the open-g riff of "Rock and a hard place" and "slipping away," which is a great, great tune.

Pretty sure Mick played RAAHP in standard...

I'm lukewarm on the album, more or less for the sonic-related reasons Gazza and others have mentioned, but the tour will always stand out as a highlight for me. First show, at age 13. The excitement surrounding the "reunion" was staggering. They were still a relevant presence on MTV.

Charlie Watts never sounded better, in my opinion, than he did in '89-90. After his brief phase as a junkie jazzer, he was a total monster.

Starbuck wrote on Jul 18^th, 2010 at 7:47pm:

my first show was at the metrodome in november of 89. loved the 50 foot inflatable women on "HTW"....so i have a soft spot for the album. wait a minute. i think 1989 was the last time i listened to that album. nevermind!

my only copy is on vinyl so i think that was the last time i listened to it...........

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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 11:07am:

The true end of the creative, inspired glimmer twin's Rolling Stones and the rise of the souless, banal, corporate Stones, Inc. machine

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

Some Guy wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 10:53am:

don't ask don't tell

It's no ER.

1989 was a stones resurgence and it was seminal for fans. After a string of crappy Mick solos and fights etc..the hype during that period was exiting. But it has dated, mainly due to what others have said, the thin, tinny 80s sound. However, Sad, Sad, Sad and Slipping Away are two of my favorite Stones songs so it had merit. Overall, in retrospect, it sounds thrown together for the sole sake of touring.

One of the most underrated Stones albums. It's also their last album for me that was truly an album in the sense that the diversity of the songs work very well together and the progression as you listen to the whole thing is very smooth. As everyone has mentioned, the production killed the true strength of the songs. It still has magical moments though:

-Mick and Keith harmonizing on Slipping Away (why the live version always bores me because there is no Mick)

-Terrifying: one of their last riffs that carries throughout the song and one of Ronnie Wood's finest moments ever as a Stone with that solo (at least I think it's him).

-Continental Drift: a return to Morocco and a nod to Brian Jones.

-Almost Hear You Sigh: pure beauty

-Just the energy of being back together

I walked into a chain restaurant called Bertucci's the other day.  Opened the door, immediately
heard the sounds of Terrifying.  Folks I dined with looked at me enough to say "is this....?" where before they could
finish I said ...1989-Steel Wheels, where they all dug the cut.  Best jazzy-long hypnotic instrumental middle since CYHMK for me......

texile wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 2:18pm:

1989 was a stones resurgence and it was seminal for fans. After a string of crappy Mick solos and fights etc..the hype during that period was exiting. But it has dated, mainly due to what others have said, the thin, tinny 80s sound. However, Sad, Sad, Sad and Slipping Away are two of my favorite Stones songs so it had merit. Overall, in retrospect, it sounds thrown together for the sole sake of touring.

Too true. Having not been allowed to go to Buffalo on the Tattoo You tour (I was 14, and my older brother wouldn't take me....after a few years I understood why) I thought it was all over. So it felt like a miracle that they were back. The tour was great. The last with Bill and the last in the days before you knew the setlist in every other city before you went to the show in your town. I remember actually thinking "holy shit, I can't believe they're playing sympathy for the devil " The album....yeah I haven't really played it that much. The last time was about two or three years ago. I couldn't make it all the way through. There are good bits and pieces though. And Continental Drift was the best opening tape for a Stones concert ever.

I listen to Steel Wheels 7 X 70 X 700 times more than ABB.

ABB was like a bad INXS album.

I will always have fond memories of Steel Wheels becuase it's the first album I got to see them tour behind. I still think there are some great songs on there.

andrews27 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

I listen to Steel Wheels 7 X 70 X 700 times more than ABB. ABB was like a bad INXS album.

Ain't nothing wrong with INXS.

[quote author=polytoxic [/quote]

Too true. Having not been allowed to go to Buffalo on the Tattoo You tour (I was 14, and my older brother wouldn't take me....after a few years I understood why) I thought it was all over.  [/quote]

That seems to be a running theme here: I was 15 in 81 and my dad refused to let me go with my older, crazy cousin....he offered, but it was out of the question. I remember going to the Astrodome several times during the 80s and always felt like something was missing, having missed out on the second coming in 81. So when 89 rolled around, I was esctatic and that first time will never be rivaled. Its amazing how many os us are the same age.

I have to add that while i didn't get to go in 81, my crazy cousin, God bless him, bought me not one, but two concert shirts from the show and my mother drove to his mom's house to pick them up. The shows were on a Thursday and Friday and i managed to miss school both days, at home just listening to the Stones and imagining and watching the local news segments. I went back to school on Monday wearing my shirt, telling anybody who asked what a great show it was. It gave me a certain cache of cool. But I was a fraud.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 11:33am:

Some Guy wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:53am: don't ask don't tell It's no ER.

9 am, baby.

Oh YAH.

"Sad Sad Sad" – 3:35
"Mixed Emotions" – 4:38
"Terrifying" – 4:53
"Hold on to Your Hat" – 3:32
"Hearts for Sale" – 4:40
"Blinded by Love" – 4:37
"Rock and a Hard Place" – 5:25
"Can't Be Seen" – 4:09
"Almost Hear You Sigh" (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards/Steve Jordan) – 4:37
"Continental Drift" – 5:14
"Break the Spell" – 3:06
"Slipping Away" – 4:29

I like this album.

A lot.


I don't listen to it quite frequently... maybe like once every two years, but "Can't Be Seen" or the last song are really good and they are proof that Keith Richards doesn't need Mick Jagger

Mel Belli wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 6:18pm:

andrews27 wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 5:13pm: I listen to Steel Wheels 7 X 70 X 700 times more than ABB. ABB was like a bad INXS album. Ain't nothing wrong with INXS.

I mean bad, bad INXS.  Every song on ABB sounds like a straining to reinvent the wheel.  And  the cock-rock songs sound old and age-inappropriate.  At their age, Muddy Waters may have been howling his old get-laid songs...but was he grinding out new ones? Maybe these guys are better off refitting their cast-offs, as on Tattoo You and the Exile bonus disc.

B2B felt more like a wheel-reinventing effort. "Might as Well Get Juiced," for example: an otherwise fine, simple blues number, ruined by a lot of trendy noise. On ABB, there was none of that. Did Mick sing about cock, tits, and booty with embarrassing frequency? Yes. But that's a different story.

lavendar wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 8:44pm:

Oh YAH. "Sad Sad Sad" – 3:35 "Mixed Emotions" – 4:38 "Terrifying" – 4:53 "Hold on to Your Hat" – 3:32 "Hearts for Sale" – 4:40 "Blinded by Love" – 4:37 "Rock and a Hard Place" – 5:25 "Can't Be Seen" – 4:09 "Almost Hear You Sigh" (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards/Steve Jordan) – 4:37 "Continental Drift" – 5:14 "Break the Spell" – 3:06 "Slipping Away" – 4:29

Half of it is ok,the other half,not so much.

texile wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 7:00pm:

I went back to school on Monday wearing my shirt, telling anybody who asked what a great show it was. It gave me a certain cache of cool. But I was a fraud.

Haha! I got the tour program book! My brother kept the shirt. Same reaction, same feeling.

Later I found out he and his friends all dropped acid at the show, so no wonder he didn't take me, but amazing he didn't lose the program. I still have it.

He bought me a program too! And when my mom took me to my aunt's to pick it up, she gave me his David Dalton book, the first one with all those Dominique Tarle photos....and so it wasn't a total disgrace, but at the time, I thought it was the end too.

MrPleasant wrote on Jul 20^th, 2010 at 12:40am:

I like this album. A lot. I don't listen to it quite frequently... maybe like once every two years, but "Can't Be Seen" or the last song are really good and they are proof that Keith Richards doesn't need Mick Jagger

But that's just two songs Mr.Pleasant....out of 12.

[quote author=andrews27 [/quote]

I mean bad, bad INXS.  Every song on ABB sounds like a straining to reinvent the wheel.  And  the cock-rock songs sound old and age-inappropriate.  At their age, Muddy Waters may have been howling his old get-laid songs...but was he grinding out new ones? Maybe these guys are better off refitting their cast-offs, as on Tattoo You and the Exile bonus disc.
[/quote]

Sadly, that's my take too. Jagger started singing exclusively about sex in the 80s, with a few exceptions.
It's like he had somehow stopped evolving intellectually after Undercover. And that explains what happened to the Stones' decline throughout the 80s, 90s, 00s.....I'm fine with another reissue as opposed to a new release if that's all he has to offer now. Then again, PMS is a great song, so maybe Jagger will enter a new phase in his life and we will be rewarded with intelligent, soulful lyrics....
Jagger's stunted growth kept the Stones from growing musically and, IMO, is the reason they lost their cultural relevance, despite the big money-making tours. Its a subject that has yet to be fully explored. WTF happened to Mick Jagger after 83?

Mel Belli wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 6:18pm:

andrews27 wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 5:13pm: I listen to Steel Wheels 7 X 70 X 700 times more than ABB. ABB was like a bad INXS album. Ain't nothing wrong with INXS.

As long as you don't listen to 'em in excess, right??

Never, the tour was good, the album sucks.

Steel Wheel was thrilling to hear during that year (1989) because The Stones had returned. Personally I never listen to it as an album anymore and haven't since 1990-91.

Steel Wheels is a soundtrack to an enormous tour rather than an album that stands on it's own. While not a terrible album I find it mediocre besides a few good tracks. It has this fastly recorded 1989 slick  production that, while at the time was fresh sounding, could of been much, much better as a whole if only they would of reconciled 6 months earlier. Not a failure or disappointment of an album but it was no Exile on Main Street...

It is quite experimental in a few places which I appreciate. I will say it has a certain "place" and it definitely has a theme. Every time you hear a song from it you get taken back to 1989 which is nice because you reminisce. 1989 with The Stones was a dream come true. Magical year.


Ian

The Stones opened the tour in Philly. They love opening tours here. September 1989 was crazy. Hells Angels showed up here to protest them, radio stations played Stones all the time, newspaper people followed them....it was great. Local news channels were on the beat too. It really was a magical time.

" The Stones opened the tour in Philly. They love opening tours here. September 1989 was crazy. Hells Angels showed up here to protest them, radio stations played Stones all the time, newspaper people followed them....it was great. Local news channels were on the beat too. It really was a magical time "


I have heard that Philly is a Great Rock n ' Roll Town !!!!

www.rememberthespectrum.com

Joey wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 9:38pm:

www.rememberthespectrum.com

first JFK stadium, then the Vet, and now the spectrum. why must they destroy it?
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