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Title: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by BILL PERKS on Jun 28th, 2010 at 6:25pm
JUST GOT THE NEW DVD..GREAT CONTENT ,GOOD INTERVIEWS WITH THE BAND.. MY ONE COMPLAINT WAS NOT ONE WORD ABOUT STU!
DEFINATELY WORTH THE PURCHASE, BUT MY MAIN IMPRESSION WAS 'MAN THESE DUDES ARE OLD !!' I REALLY CANNOT SEE THEM HITTIN THE ROAD AGAIN,MAYBE A FEW SHOWS |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by corgi37 on Jun 29th, 2010 at 9:12pm
No Stu. No Billy Preston. No Dr. John. No backing singers (Mick probably doesnt remember them, but i know Keith does. Every time they play in L.A. he makes sure they get tix). No Bill Plummer. No mention of re-discovered songs. No mention of what they added.
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Deathgod on Jun 29th, 2010 at 9:26pm
and does anyone give a rats what a Black Eyed Pea and that pasty Jack White think ?
Why do the Stones have to align themselves with these idiots. :wtf3 |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Some Guy on Jun 29th, 2010 at 10:21pm
now I don't like it
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by texile on Jun 30th, 2010 at 1:57pm
Still haven't seen it. I think it was alwayts inevitable that many of us would be dissapointed about what's not in it. We've been living with it for decades.....this is a 60-minute doc.
I do wish Billy, Nicky etc....were mentioned. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Holden on Jun 30th, 2010 at 3:06pm Some Guy wrote on Jun 29th, 2010 at 10:21pm:
Some Guy, you kill me. :smilemick |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Tumbled on Jul 1st, 2010 at 10:49am
I noticed Charlie has trouble talking as if swallowing at same time but liked to hear his opinon and Keith is noticeably shaky maybe due to blood sugar or meds or something and seemed depressed to me (maybe due to being unemployed or dau posing nude lol?). I was hoping they would be able to enter the nellcote house or that there was video footage of the sessions but alas not. still it was a good shot at explaining things. It was nice to hear Bill's input and Anita's take on that time it must have been difficult having so many people crashing there.
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by BILL PERKS on Jul 1st, 2010 at 11:59am
they are finally showing their age
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Tumbled on Jul 1st, 2010 at 12:37pm
BILL you are writing in lower case. this is significant.
[I think the last 4 year tour took it out of em.. as it would anyone] |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by dadrob on Jul 1st, 2010 at 5:21pm
holy crap is Liz Phair a talentless dim wit. I went to school with her n she is just horrible...cannot sing either
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Bitch on Jul 1st, 2010 at 6:10pm
I learned a few new tidbits of information from watching the DVD. I never knew eight guitars and a sax were stolen right out from under their stoned noses! And I was impressed to see the beauty of Nellcote, and it's location on the water, so is that the Riviera? I didnt realize there wasnt much furniture there and the sofas were used only for the guitars! Anita bought pillows and rugs which were used 'hippie style' on the floor! I found Stones in Exile interesting! Slice of Stones history from very different era, back in the early days. Sweet.
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Steel Wheels on Jul 1st, 2010 at 10:02pm
Liz Phair was the only one in that bonus section who knew what she was talking about. I thought she was right on the fucking money. That girl knows Exile inside and out. I did turn off the bonus feature when Don Was started to compare Exile to Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness so if she does speak after that, I didn't hear it. But what I did hear from her was superb. The guy from the Black Peas was full of shit. I don't buy that he was walking around with Exile on vinyl in his school bag in 1993 and 1994 and laying it on people. There's no way that was happening. In 93 and 94 the only record players you'd see were curbside waiting for the trashmen. I was the only person I knew of at that time in high school and college with a working record player.
Jack White saying one of the reasons he likes the album is that it fucks with the reviewers is bullshit. Have you ever liked something because of the effects it had on a journalist or reviewer? Fuck that! That's nonsense. One thing I did notice in the documentary was it seemed there were scenes that were shot last year that they tried to manupulate to look like it was 1972. That annoyed me and once I noticed it, I questioned every scene. "Is this real or is this Memorex?" Check out the dice rolling scene, the clip of the record player spinning with a Tumbling Dice poster in the background, And no mention of Stu in the documentary was odd. Not one word at all. I'd like to know what the director and the editors cut out of the film-but maybe I'll find some Stu content in the bonus material. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by andrews27 on Jul 1st, 2010 at 11:00pm
If you picture the Stones as a bunch of Mistah Kurtzes, that 'Heart of Darkness' blurb may be unintentionally accurate.
And how many people made it through their first try at reading 'Heart,' anyway? As many as got 'Exile' on first hearing? |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Steel Wheels on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 5:41am
Heart of Darkness is one of my favorite books actually.
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by BILL PERKS on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 8:28am
THE "EXILE FANS " FEATURE WAS AN ABOMINATION..I NOW KNOW DON WAS IS A JACKASS SO I GUESS I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM IT..,SCORCESE 'S COMMENTS WERE STUPID..I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT THE BROTHER FROM PEAS THINKS OR JACK WHITE FOR THAT MATTER...ALL MICK'S "BOYS" DOING HIM A "SOLID" ,I GUESS ..MATT CLIFFORD WAS UNAVAILABLE ,I SUPPOSE..WORKING ON THE REMASTERED GODDESS IN THE DOORWAY !
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Ade on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 9:36am
you've nailed it, sir. :areyoufuckingserious
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by keefchik on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 10:28am
i wasn't very impressed either... nothing new here, not really...
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by corgi37 on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 8:58pm
No wonder Jagger doesnt like to re-visit the past. The GHS dvd/cd upgrade might be a while off.
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by stonedinaustralia on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 6:58pm Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 2nd, 2010 at 5:41am:
mine too and comparing it to Exile is aty best a stretch at best if not a lot of pretentious bollocks -imho |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Tumbled on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 7:11pm Deathgod wrote on Jun 29th, 2010 at 9:26pm:
I really don't know...it seems pretty insecure to have to rely on these young chickens for back up |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by corgi37 on Jul 4th, 2010 at 5:01am
Liz Phair is hot!
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by texile on Jul 5th, 2010 at 5:43pm stonedinaustralia wrote on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 6:58pm:
Pretentious is an understatment. Bollocks is correct. The simple truth is that Exile was a moment of transition for the Stones, looking back at thier littered, often mispent past and moving forward.....its got chaos and confusion, but also hope and love. I hate the kind of pseudo music criticism/philosophizing like Was going on about the "undercurrent of evil" - this makes the music impersonal. The Stones have always been able to capture the zeigiest of the times, but ultimately at the heart of it all, their work is personal, which makes it last. At least Liz Phair was talking about what it meant to her, , not like Was who turned it into some intellectual whatever. This is painful to listen to. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Deathgod on Jul 5th, 2010 at 7:10pm
Exile is and will always to me be a dirty, stinky, rock n roll album from my fave band.
Its one of the best and the Stones dont need no fancy boys talking it up. :whydontcha That Black Eyed Pea wouldnt know the power of a killer Stonesy lick and lyric if it was jimmying out of the ipod in his Hummer. But .. he does get to stand behind that Fergie nightly on stage .... :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by texile on Jul 5th, 2010 at 8:01pm Finally watched it over the weekend and loved it. I thought the director did a phenomenal job at making it all so seamless. Loved the way he started with the "heads", then Mick and Charlie in the studio, and the way he segues back to 72 with footage of Mick and Charlie....excellent! Amazing footage......and the "renactments" were sublte and not distracting at all. I loved how Kijak used huge portions of songs and just let them play out and those early in-the-studio tracks! I wanted more of that! Listening to how Ventilator Blues started with that simple blues riff has made me appreciate the song all the more. The first time i saw it, i thought that shot of Jagger with that random black chick kind of, well, random and wondered why they left it in and how Jagger felt about it. But the second time I watched it, it fit perfectly. Throughout the film we see Jagger in pics with Bianca and he's in Paris, blah, blah.....it all seems so idylic...and then near the end, in LA, we see Jagger with that random chick and its like, what a prick! I mean, we know he was randy, but this just drives it home in a way that is kind of sad. Keith fucked up his life with drugs, but Jagger fucked up his life and relationships with his bad behavior with random sex. It made it seem balanced in that the film did not shy away from Keith's drug problems, so Mick's indiscretions should be shown as well. It made me feel bad for all of Mick's women and children. It was a subtle subtext for me. I also love that shot where Mick is in some room after a show, obviously exhausted and a little out of it, and then the camera pans to show Keith in bed, flaking out, while Shine a Light plays. I never thought of that song like that, but it was poignant. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Heart Of Stone on Jul 5th, 2010 at 8:26pm Tumbled wrote on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 7:11pm:
I don't even think they were even born back then, Black Eyes Peas to me is a bunch of hip hop crap. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by texile on Jul 5th, 2010 at 9:06pm
SO only old farts can be stones fans?
Actually, the Peas have been doing a "killer, Stonesy" live version of Miss You for years, way before they became popular and Fergie played "Sweethearts Together" as her firs dance at her wedding. Benicio Del Toro has mentioned the Stones before, how he was growing up and discovered them from Emotional Rescue....As for Jack White, the Stripes are blues-based so it makes sense that he would be a Stones fans. And Sheryl Crow and Liz Phair seemed to be real fans of the album.....The guy from the Kings of Leon sounded like he just discovered them and Don Was was as pretentious as ever and Scorsese sounded academic. I don't begrudge them their Stones love, but they just were not necessary. Thses kind of guests, talking heads, always date a doc like this. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Heart Of Stone on Jul 6th, 2010 at 7:30am texile wrote on Jul 5th, 2010 at 9:06pm:
I guess I am a old fart, I saw The Black Eyed Peas on a awards show on T.V. I thought what kind of music is this?????? give me Rock & Roll or Rhythm & Blues or Blues any day. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Egon on Jul 6th, 2010 at 10:17am
It arrived chez moi from amazon yesterday.
I was all excited, to watch it this weekend. Now, not so much anymore... |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by texile on Jul 6th, 2010 at 2:25pm Egon wrote on Jul 6th, 2010 at 10:17am:
I was like that before I watched it, ready to be dissapointed, but I loved it. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by NoBozos on Sep 18th, 2010 at 12:14pm
there's something about that album, the footage they use, that 'era' that reminds me of one of those old Italian horror movies. It's all just so raunchy, sleezy, sticky, nasty, and incredible.
Learning about the 8 year old kids rolling joints for the grownups was pretty eye opening! I could sit there and watch that raw footage that they shot back then all day long. I'd love to see all of that stuff. I wouldn't care if it's just them standing there talking and smoking cigarettes. The era I call the "world champship run"-love it |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Honky Tonk Man on Sep 18th, 2010 at 2:53pm
I still yet to purchase this - and this someone who forked out for the super-deluxe Exile package! I didn't even bother to watch it on the telly!
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by corgi37 on Sep 19th, 2010 at 7:46am
They left out a hell of a lot of stuff. I only read today about the Kings of Leon at some festival. All the other acts gave them some upraised fingers because of their "diva" antics.
And the dude from Leon embarrassed himself AND us fans by trying to tell us the album was "cool". Fuck him. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Tumbling Dijs on Sep 19th, 2010 at 4:00pm Tumbled wrote on Jul 1st, 2010 at 10:49am:
I thought the opposite of Keith. I can't remember seeing him so calm. How he talks, and not laughing hystericly after every sentence, not scratcing his head, not schratching anywhere, and just talking sense. The first sober interview in a few decades I've seen. |
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Title: Re: Stones In Exile Dvd Post by Steel Wheels on Sep 19th, 2010 at 5:40pm
No mention of Stu was odd. The scenes that were shot to look like the 70's sucked and pulled me right out of the documentary. I watched it once and put it away. It's really not that good. I could give two shits about pop stars who think it's cool.
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