I'll Cast the first vote.

Why the fuck not?
My friend is a member of the IORR board and when he told me politics were a no-no, i thought that was stupid. What are they, children? I keep politics out of the work environment, social scenarios as much as i can, but on a message board, I think its totally acceptable.
I wonder if the more conservative Stones fans don't like it because they have that sinking feeling that the Stones are not conservative.
I've dissagreed with Steel Wheels, RiffHard plenty of times and people, including me, can get pretty sanctimonious and downright nasty.
But the great thing is that on another thread, I will wholeheartedly agree with Steel or Riff about Exile On Main Street....that's a great thing, being able to dissagree and then get over it.

To me its no more irrelevant than any other off topic subjects. Its unrealistic to expect people to live in some kind of vacuum.

The only issue is that - unlike those other off topic subjects - too many people cant be trusted to keep it civilized.

Once it descends into sermonising, trolling or personal abuse, then it crosses the line.

I would love for it to be a limitee, but civil debate, but it is niether... I say no... if it is a strict no, then I can avoid it altogether, I get sucked in to easy... and I hate that I've oarticipated in the things Gazza is mentioning...

YES...because you can always do what I do and ignore them completely.

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 6:12pm:

YES...because you can always do what I do and ignore them completely.

teach me how you do it... i get sucked in... it is horrible.

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 6:12pm:

YES...because you can always do what I do and ignore them completely.

So you're ignoring this thread?  :forfucksake

Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
I want to just show you what my politics are.
I'm a political man and I practice what I preach.
I'm a political man and I practice what I preach.
So don't deny me baby, not while you're in my reach.
I support the left, though I'm leaning, leaning to the right.
I support the left, though I'm leaning to the right.
But I'm just not there when it's coming to a fight.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
I want to just show you what my politics are

Anytime you have two or more people, you have politics.  Politics is in almost everything in life and almost everything in the world can have a political component to it.  Talk of kicking Ronnie out of the band, for example, is political - the governing body in that case is most likely The Glimmer Twins.

:smilestu

Wild Bill wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 9:00pm:

Anytime you have two or more people, you have politics.  Politics is in almost everything in life and almost everything in the world can have a political component to it.  Talk of kicking Ronnie out of the band, for example, is political - the governing body in that case is most likely The Glimmer Twins. :smilestu

That's good......... no that's great, that's really great.........I vote for you. Very well said!

Wild Bill wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 9:00pm:

Anytime you have two or more people, you have politics.  Politics is in almost everything in life and almost everything in the world can have a political component to it.  Talk of kicking Ronnie out of the band, for example, is political - the governing body in that case is most likely The Glimmer Twins. :smilestu

there's a distinction when it comes to social poltics and the politics of ruling a country and justice and law ie: govt.

I see your ppint, because they can be much alike, but also completely different... socially when someone feels crossed, like a couple where a partner cheated and friends take sides... there's an emotional aspect and a social dynamic... where in politcs, even though you have people who disagree on cetain topics, they still will hangout and even can be friends.... you see it all the time... as an example, there's people here, who no longer are my friend b/c of a disagreemnt, yet the politicians who diagreed, may have no problem with each other... kinda ironic!!! Yet, I think it was the intent of politicians and others to get people fired up against each other, so they can keep a focus of the fact, they are not really serving the public. It's brilliant in that sense... and the media is their greatest tool... and we are just tools!!!

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 3:47pm:

Should Politics be Allowed on Rocks Off?

I told you once and I told you twice... For me is OK, but first I don't read it

If it is a discussion, I mean dialogue with arguments is good, but it always end in rude fights, insults and similar and the end is having people leaving the board even that the administrators don't give a fuck.

So if you enter into that, do it at your own risk

I miss moonwillow

So be it....Let the fur fly....I'm not the one cleaning up other people's dog shit. :will-ya :willya :booze :warhorse

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 9:17pm:

I miss moonwillow

he's a facebook junkie now.

Starbuck wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 10:04pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 9:17pm: I miss moonwillow he's a facebook junkie now.

Stinkle, can you stop the leak?

Starbuck wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 10:04pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 9:17pm: I miss moonwillow he's a facebook junkie now.

You mean soon to have identity stolen junkie? :pullanolte

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 10:06pm:

Starbuck wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:04pm: Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 9:17pm: I miss moonwillow he's a facebook junkie now. Stinkle, can you stop the leak?

if only max were here.

Maxlugar!
Riff and Nellcote have nothing on his classic manic rants and paranoias... they were a joy to read.

I am so left, my left arm looks like my right arm. I despise conservatism of any kind.

But i love you all.

texile wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 10:46pm:

Maxlugar! Riff and Nellcote have nothing on his classic manic rants and paranoias... they were a joy to read.

I am not a role model.
Or a fashion model at that.
I am who I am.

Nellcote wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2010 at 7:55am:

texile wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:46pm: Maxlugar! Riff and Nellcote have nothing on his classic manic rants and paranoias... they were a joy to read. I am not a role model. Or a fashion model at that. I am who I am.

new model army...

Pdog wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2010 at 8:24am:

Nellcote wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 7:55am: texile wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 10:46pm: Maxlugar! Riff and Nellcote have nothing on his classic manic rants and paranoias... they were a joy to read. I am not a role model. Or a fashion model at that. I am who I am. new model army...

This Year's Model? :whydontcha

I get a laff when it comes down to whose side is right... the only thing that pisses me off is when it creeps into a thread started by someone and the topic gets hijacked by mud slinging. Stones fans should have more class and respect for their peers than to do that.

corgi37 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2010 at 7:14am:

I am so left, my left arm looks like my right arm. I despise conservatism of any kind.

Jon, is that you???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/corgi37/Copyofjanvoy4004.jpg http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/386244.jpg

Is it just me or do conservatives seem less intelligent, less funny, less happy, less sexual and a whole hell of a lot less fun?  

But they do have Jesus and all the phony bullshit that goes with him.

" if only max were here "



http://www.grioo.com/images/rubriques/7/1005.jpg !!!!!!!

Stones and politics?  Mick marched to the American Embassy in London in 1969 to oppose the Vietnam War.  'Nuff said.

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2010 at 1:40pm:

I get a laff when it comes down to whose side is right... the only thing that pisses me off is when it creeps into a thread started by someone and the topic gets hijacked by mud slinging. Stones fans should have more class and respect for their peers than to do that.

Espicially when the most personal attack,disrespectful.hate filled posts come from 1 person.

72Tele wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2010 at 2:43pm:

Is it just me or do conservatives seem less intelligent, less funny, less happy, less sexual and a whole hell of a lot less fun?   But they do have Jesus and all the phony bullshit that goes with him.

That's weird, I kind of thought that Jesus was on the left or a least very liberal in his day, I thought he was against the way religion was being practiced in his day, clearing the temple of all the bad stuff, and teaching things like love your neighbor. I don't think that Conservatives have the corner on less intelligent, less funny, less happy or less anything than say liberals. I kind of think that both sides right and left, can at times, show their ass pretty well.  IMO.

Edith Grove wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 7:48pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:12pm: YES...because you can always do what I do and ignore them completely. So you're ignoring this thread?  :forfucksake

I am a sucker for polls!!!

Pdog wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 7:00pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 1st, 2010 at 6:12pm: YES...because you can always do what I do and ignore them completely. teach me how you do it... i get sucked in... it is horrible.

First...you have to live in Washington, DC for  20 years...
then you get so sick of it...
too many people, having too many opinions...
and your head starts to explode...
so you drink...
laugh at them...
and you still read the Washington Post every morning like your life depends on it...

There isn't an opinion I haven't heard as a bartender in DC...from locals...tourists...lobbyist...non-profits anarchists...or soviet dissidents...

You just listen...nod...shrug your shoulders from time to time...and get a good tip!!!

This is a joke, right?

why not start a politics thread and ban the offending parties from posting in that thread?

Gazza wrote on Jun 1^st, 2010 at 5:52pm:

To me its no more irrelevant than any other off topic subjects. Its unrealistic to expect people to live in some kind of vacuum. The only issue is that - unlike those other off topic subjects - too many people cant be trusted to keep it civilized. Once it descends into sermonising, trolling or personal abuse, then it crosses the line.

       
      Yes,I agree with Gazza ,
.....and I understand Pdog.  Unfortunately very often I see just the same (and I even don't have in view our board) - people begin to talk as best
friends, then they touch on a politics, and 10 minutes later they are at each other's throats. And one even doesn't listen another and doesn't try to understand - everyone listens only himself.... And it's impossible to listen and understand anything without respect for the individual.
    As Voltaire said - “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”  

Heavy question. I never post on this kind of thread, but I've been fucked up for several days and here ya go. When your with your Stones friends partying, does it matter what their politics are? Where they come from? Their past? Who likes who? We got a beautiful thing going, why fuck it up with world affairs. Enjoy what you have now, we are not getting any younger. You earn what you reep in this world.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

I'm the plow man in the valley...........with a face full of mud..........................

I'm the man who brings ya roses................ when ya ain't got none...............................

TomL wrote on Jun 4^th, 2010 at 8:39pm:

Heavy question. I never post on this kind of thread, but I've been fucked up for several days and here ya go. When your with your Stones friends partying, does it matter what their politics are? Where they come from? Their past? Who likes who? We got a beautiful thing going, why fuck it up with world affairs. Enjoy what you have now, we are not getting any younger. You earn what you reep in this world. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. I'm the plow man in the valley...........with a face full of mud.......................... I'm the man who brings ya roses................ when ya ain't got none...............................

Nuff said. :smilestu