a young friend of mine (to whom i have given countless stones cd's and stuff) was in a music store yesterday to pick up a copy of "sticky fingers".  the proprieter of the store told him that the stones had for some times released songs they didn't think were quite good enough under another name. anybody ever heard of this?

When they first started writing their own songs in the early 60s, they used the pen name nanker/phelge.

It appears on a number of their singles.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanker_Phelge

When they recorded sub- par songs, they released them, I believe, under the name..."the beatles".

   :areyoufuckingserious

;D

no, really.....this record store guy seemed to know something i sure as hell don't know!!!  it wasn't nanker/phelge. i know that one... ::) :smoking

well i've been soaking up all things stones in a "hard core" (is that a euphemism for "obsessive"?) way for just on 35 years now and it's news to me

yes, it is. and me too! when my young friend said it, i was stunned speechless! waaayy news to me, too! :wtf1

oldtimer wrote on Jan 12^th, 2010 at 5:01pm:

a young friend of mine (to whom i have given countless stones cd's and stuff) was in a music store yesterday to pick up a copy of "sticky fingers".  the proprieter of the store told him that the stones had for some times released songs they didn't think were quite good enough under another name. anybody ever heard of this?

Not true.

They did give some early Jagger-Richards compositions they didnt feel were right for the Stones to be used by other artists though.

good answer, gazza! maybe that's what the guy meant to say. thanks. :smilestu

Gene Pitney did one of their songs. He had nice things to say about them when he visited Oz before he croaked.

Cliff Richard did one too and only has horrible things to say about them.

But then again, the guy didnt even stick it in Una Stubbs, so what do you expect?

Another guy by the name of Chris Farlowe did "Out Of Time"
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyAzuB1-rE"

corgi37 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 6:29am:

Gene Pitney did one of their songs. He had nice things to say about them when he visited Oz before he croaked. Cliff Richard did one too and only has horrible things to say about them. But then again, the guy didnt even stick it in Una Stubbs, so what do you expect?

:pukey

He gave Sue Barker a pass as well back in the 70s, which was a worse crime.

Heart Of Stone wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 6:36am:

Another guy by the name of Chris Farlowe did "Out Of Time" "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyAzuB1-rE"

Not only did he do it, he got to number 1 in the UK with it. As far as I'm aware, the only Stones cover to have done that.

Farlowe released quite a few Jagger-Richards songs as singles in that era.

His version of 'Out of Time' is actually the same take as the Stones' one thats on 'Metamorphosis' - only with his vocal instead of Mick's. (It's not the Stones playing on this version though - mostly session musicians).

Farlowe's version is better known than the Stones' one, which is why I think it's a bit of a waste that the Stones have never performed the song live. Its one from deep in their catalogue that if they played it, you could guarantee that most people would know it.

Heart Of Stone wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 6:36am:

Another guy by the name of Chris Farlowe did "Out Of Time" "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNyAzuB1-rE"

nice quote HOS...reminds me of the time i was 9 years old

what a voice..

more stones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOU8uKPs3w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3yN0JvG5co

not stones but a piece de resistance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3yN0JvG5co

god wrote on Jan 12^th, 2010 at 5:15pm:

When they recorded sub- par songs, they released them, I believe, under the name..."the beatles".    :areyoufuckingserious

Cute.  Unfortunately, the opposite is true:  When the Beatles wrote a subpar song, they gave it to the Stones, who used it to break into the Top 10 for the first time (see "I Wanna Be Your Man").

P.S.  You don't exist.

:whatapostronnie

Representing the hard core, I say - "Never listen to the record-store guy."

Gazza wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 6:37am:

corgi37 wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 6:29am: Gene Pitney did one of their songs. He had nice things to say about them when he visited Oz before he croaked. Cliff Richard did one too and only has horrible things to say about them. But then again, the guy didnt even stick it in Una Stubbs, so what do you expect? :pukey He gave Sue Barker a pass as well back in the 70s, which was a worse crime.

Sue Barker? The only Sue Barker I know is the former tennis professional....the same?

yep. She dated Cliff in the 70s.

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 6:47pm:

god wrote on Jan 12th, 2010 at 5:15pm: When they recorded sub- par songs, they released them, I believe, under the name..."the beatles".    :areyoufuckingserious Cute.  Unfortunately, the opposite is true:  When the Beatles wrote a subpar song, they gave it to the Stones, who used it to break into the Top 10 for the first time (see "I Wanna Be Your Man")

Quite possibly the most overdetermined example of Beatles/Stones lore. ... The Stones had early hits with songs written by Bobby Womack and Willie Dixon as well ... So what? We're talking about an approximately 18-month period -- a blip by today's standards of writing and recording! -- during which Mick and Keith were honing their craft. "I Wanna Be Your Man" *is* a subpar song. It was grist for the mill.

Gazza wrote on Jan 12^th, 2010 at 6:53pm:

oldtimer wrote on Jan 12th, 2010 at 5:01pm: a young friend of mine (to whom i have given countless stones cd's and stuff) was in a music store yesterday to pick up a copy of "sticky fingers".  the proprieter of the store told him that the stones had for some times released songs they didn't think were quite good enough under another name. anybody ever heard of this? Not true. They did give some early Jagger-Richards compositions they didnt feel were right for the Stones to be used by other artists though.

Isn't that what the METAMORPHOSIS album was all about?!?

Pretty much, yes - although there were a few songs which pre-dated even that material and go as far back as late 1963, eg 'Will You Be My Lover Tonight' and 'It Should be You' for George Bean, 'That Girl Belongs To Yesterday' for Gene Pitney, etc.

I dont think theres anything on 'Metamorphosis' that was recorded any earlier than mid 1964.