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Title: Stones in the Aughts Post by Mel Belli on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 7:42pm
Just *one* studio album; one solo album; one "EP."
Nearly a billion dollars' worth of touring. Shall we call it the Lost or Lopsided Decade? |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by straycatuk on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 1:28am
Retirement fund decade. Maybe the next one can be the "save the legacy" decade ........................... I won't hold my breath !
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Gazza on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 7:50am Mel Belli wrote on Dec 22nd, 2009 at 7:42pm:
One solo album??? Tsk tsk. Be fair. Mick released two (Goddess and Alfie) and Ronnie released one. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Mel Belli on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 8:33am
Thank God for Dave Stewart?
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Throwaway on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 8:41am
So little to choose from, but at least they played a lot of shows. From my POV:
Best new song: Oh No Not You Again Worst new song: Sweet Neocon Best instrumental performance: Rock Me Baby (Ronnie) Best live guest: Buddy Guy (Champagne and Reefer or Night Time) and AC/DC Worst live guest: Chui San or whoever on Wild Horses Best vocal performance: That's How Strong My Love Is Best live rarity: Learning the Game Warhorse you never want again: It's Only Rock and Roll Favorite live moment at a show you attended: 11/17/06, AC NJ, Loving Cup |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Mel Belli on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 8:54am
Stretching back more: just four studio albums in 20 years.
I believe this is what military folks derisively call "retired on active-duty." |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by PartyDoll MEG on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 9:06am
Oh Mel..you are killing me! ;D ;D ;D
Hey you know you'll go see these old farts if they get off their lazy asses to perform for their loyal subjects -even if Ronnie is out there trying to remember what song he is suppose to be playing and Keith is posing while Blondie plays his classic riffs. Seriously, we are all crazy to be so in love with a band that hasn't produced much in the way of really good new shit in YEARS!!( typing this as Dead Flowers is playing in the background) ... Bring on the tour ... |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Mel Belli on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:04am
I guess so. ... But, God, would I like them to shake things up somehow. The idea of paying hundreds to hear 18 or 19 of the same songs again just does not overjoy me. ... Enough of that. As Keith said a couple decades ago, "Happy Christmas!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW0qHSX8r9Q |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:34am
They Aught to fucking tour :willya
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 1:14pm
I might be the only person in the world that feels this way, but A Bigger Bang is one of my all-time great albums. I love the production of it-it feels like a tight, cohesive album that is very well recorded. It sounds great through my stereo system. It's a rock record recorded with guitar, drums, a vocal track, bass, and more guitars. At times, it's just the original three members of the band and if anyone knows how to do blues and rock, it's those cats.
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 25th, 2009 at 8:07pm Throwaway wrote on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 8:41am:
Ah, yes, the fabled "Best Weekend Ever" for those of us lucky enough to be there. ;) |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by LadyJane on Dec 26th, 2009 at 12:16am GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 8:07pm:
Agreed. At least we HAD another decade. I'll take that over the alternative. LJ. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Gazza on Dec 26th, 2009 at 9:27am LadyJane wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 12:16am:
Yep. This time NEXT decade its highly unlikely we'll be having this debate. We should make the most of it. A GREAT decade from the perspective of getting the opportunity to see lots of shows around the world (even though they only played shows in 5 out of the 10 years) and making and sustaining friendships. Wouldnt have missed all that for anything. I got to see the Stones perform 26 times in England, Scotland, Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany and the US in this decade alone - which included two trips to New York and one to Los Angeles, three trips which would not have been possible without the kindness and generosity of fellow fans. I'll even forgive the band for not having played my home city since 1965.... On the down side, the band have definitely coasted towards retirement for the entire decade and the cost incurred to fans of padding that retirement fund is getting more and more prohibitive whilst the Stones milk their tax-free wealth - plus its a bit frustrating from the POV of someone who unconditionally loves their music that while the band like to publicly insist that they're a living, breathing, current act and who wont open their archives as a result, at the same time they're not making any new music either and insist on tailoring their show and any releases to the sort of fans for whom '40 Licks' is the extent of their interest. Unfortunately if they leave it much longer to treat their archives with the respect it deserves, there wont be enough of their true fanbase left to be interested. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 26th, 2009 at 11:37am Gazza wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 9:27am:
Which is exactly why YOU should be the Keeper Of The Archives. I could forgive Cohl all the rest of his diabolical designs if he would just do this one good thing. Yer da poifect man for da job! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by corgi37 on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:06am
It's all very depressing when you think of it. But we are not alone. No one really gives a stuff about a Macca or Neil Young album. Even U2's sales are down. I think the final nail is in for the so-called "heritage" acts.
Sure, some may have a lauded album that might dent the charts, but mainly it's all over for everyone. No matter what anyone does, it wont match what they've already achieved decades ago. And that goes for U2, Greenday anyone else you wanna name. It's all just nostalgia for most, and trying to live up to hype for others. As most of the important people smack into 70, there is a massive gap. This is all off the top of my head, but maybe only Springsteen is a going concern. And lets not even mention Dylan's Christmas album! Quickly looking back, we've seen the demise as major recording acts like REM, The Cure, Stones, Young, all the old metal bands, geez, there's so many. And the ones people were talking about only a year or two ago that were to carry the torch have all gone bust. Jet, Hives, White Stripes etc - all gone or going. Shit, Aussie's own "next big thing", WOlfmother, lasted all of 1 album! Rock as we know it, is long dead. Who the hell knows what will spring up in 5-10 years. Whatever it is, we will have to realise that the Stones etc are as relevant to anyone like Al Jolson was to kids in 1969. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by PartyDoll MEG on Dec 27th, 2009 at 8:38am
we is getting old.....
but I refuse to say rock and roll is dead. Maybe the groups we grew up with are dying off and on their last legs, but I will forge ahead looking for the next Bruce Springsteen, Mick Jagger (Brandon perhaps?), and Dylan. I will go see these old guys that turned me on to music any chance I get and I most certainly will continue to seek out new groups that maybe have just a glimmer of what it takes. I'll drag myself with my cane and without my hearing aids to go see them- for this is what will keep me young. I will not sit around and long for the old days.. This last decade was not a creative one for the Stones. Maybe those years are all dried up for them. It was a great touring decade for them however, especially the Licks Tour. Play your entire catalog you old geezers and for god's sake leave the damn Vegas act behind. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by gimmekeef on Dec 27th, 2009 at 10:34am
I've been on the Stones train since 1963...I'm riding it to the last stop Streets of Love be damned!
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Riffhard on Dec 27th, 2009 at 11:11am
It is a bit ironic that their last album is called A Bigger Bang, and they are just slow burning their way towards a long rich retirement. No doubt deserved, mind you. However it's also revealing that Mick continually harps on about hating to "revisit" the band's past while at the same time donating 90% of the last decade making a killing doing just that live on stage. It just goes to show that if you give hundreds of millions of dollars to 4 band members that have worked together for thirty or fourty some odd years they are going start to drift from each other personally and professionally. Milk the catalouge for all it's worth, while keeping the vaults locked as a golden parachute for later. Then just put some asses in the seats with "revisited" live versions of old warhorses and watch the bank bulid.
That said, I'll be lining up to buy tickets to the next tour the moment that it is announced. I love to revisit the Stones' past as well as my own. Riffy |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 27th, 2009 at 11:47am
People have been saying rock & roll is dead for the last 40 years.But Macca,Neil,Springsteen,Dylan and others continue to tour regularly and fairly succefully. As far as making quality new music. Their aren't many acts,old or new making good new music.IMHO. Live music will continue to thrive as a form of entertainment. But,recording new music may soon be dead. Or available in far different ways then we've ever known it.....Bunch of old fucking geezers that we are. So I'm ready for the Stones victory lap tour. :warhorse
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 27th, 2009 at 5:51pm
For all the setlist-whining that goes on around here, I gotta say that last tour I got to hear everything I wanted with the sole exception of "Let It Loose," including You Got The Silver, Wanna Hold You, Connection, Rocks Off, Worried About You, Paint It Black, Love Is Strong, Ruby Tuesday, Heartbreaker, The Worst, She's So Cold, She Was Hot, Out Of Control. Live With Me, Sway, Far Away Eyes, Little T&A, Rambler, Under My Thumb, Just My Imagination, No Expectations, Can't You Hear Me Knocking, All Down The Line, Ain't Too Proud To Beg, and Loving Cup.
Not too shabby! "Well the preacher kept right on saying that all I had to do was send Ten dollars to the church of the sacred bleeding heart of Jesus Located somewhere in Los Angeles, California And next week they'd say my prayer on the radio And all my dreams would come true..." |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Ginda on Dec 27th, 2009 at 5:58pm
It pains me to say this but I think I've paid to see my last Stones show. Especially if Ronnie (scuffed up but insurable) is still in the lineup. If Ronnie is replaced by someone whose presence and abilities can shake up the standard setlist it will be a different story. I'll never get better seats than I had last time (meaning being able to see the B stage with the naked eye). Money is too tight for another rerun.
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 27th, 2009 at 5:58pm Riffhard wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 11:11am:
I'll be lining right up with ya, Riffy! I'm in it for the duration! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by sweetcharmedlife on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:03pm GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 5:51pm:
How many shows did that take you? |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:05pm PartyDoll MEG wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 8:38am:
There's only ONE Jagger and ONE Dylan. Everything else is derivative, to one degree or another. Go back to Rock and Roll 101. Do NOT pass Go. Do NOT collect $200! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Bitch on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:57pm GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 11:37am:
Yes I COMPLETELY AGREE and I told Gazza he should send a resume to APPLY FOR THE JOB ~ invent the job, dammit! Gazza knows more about how to best manage the Stones material then they do themselves! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by PartyDoll MEG on Dec 27th, 2009 at 9:52pm GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:05pm:
Oh now don't get your panties in a bunch. Yes there is only one Jagger and one Dylan. But if I live longer than the two of them, I am sure gonna look for some young "wanna be" to listen to (actually there are a few derivatives out there already)! ;) Is Rock and Roll 101 in Jail? ;D |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by corgi37 on Dec 28th, 2009 at 5:26am
The point i was trying to make is that rock and roll just does not have the influence it once did. Once upon a time it changed peoples lives. It affected events. It has been the major cultural influence of the past 55 years (except for technilogical advances/inventions). But its very limitations are so evident now.
Once it was the focal point. Just watch as it becomes more and more marginalised. Give it 5 - 10 years, and rock will be relegated to low rating niche stations like swing, easy listening 50's & jazz are now. There are no new Stones, Led Zepp's, Ac/Dc, Who or Beatles. Like i wrote earlier, some DID crop up, but they soon die off. The closest thing is U2, and i think they are heading into Stones territory circa 1989. Which is - the people will come and see you, but wont care about current music. There last album was a flop by their standards. But i will cling to the Stones because even their worst crap is preferred by me to most anything else. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Gazza on Dec 28th, 2009 at 10:57am corgi37 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 5:26am:
Sadly I think you're right on all counts... |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 28th, 2009 at 3:10pm
I challenge all of you to create your own reality. In my mind, in my home, it's Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Dylan, Black Crowes, John Lee Hooker, B.B. King, Stevie Ray, Chuck Berry, and plenty of blues and jazz all day, every day.
I don't need new Dylan or Chuck. In my circle of friends and family, emails and phone calls and conversations happen DAILY about the Stones and these other artists I've mentioned. I also have Sirius radio which caters to my likes. At any time I can switch to a station featuring one of the above musicians if I program my radio to do so. It's only rock and roll....you know the rest! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 28th, 2009 at 4:41pm PartyDoll MEG wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 9:52pm:
See, this is why I'd much rather be with the boys... |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 28th, 2009 at 4:46pm Steel Wheels wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 3:10pm:
There goes one now! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by corgi37 on Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:35am
So what you are saying Steel Wheels, is that you will secede from society and live your own imagination? Sounds a bit like Pete Townshends "Lifehouse".
Fair enough too! I found a great channel by clicking on the microsoft radio station icon that for some reason was on my favourites list. I guess it's there by default. They play only songs from 1969. I started school that year, so i can re-live my childhood!! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Steel Wheels on Dec 29th, 2009 at 2:52pm
I'm not saying to live your imagination, but rather create the world in which you want to live. If you like rock music, listen to it. Jazz. Go for it. Do not settle. Find something you love and love it. Make the most out of it. Imerse yourself in it 110%.
I have no idea who is on the radio these days. They are all the same and I'm completely out of the loop. I wouldn't know the bands and singers at the top of the charts if they walked into my home and performed their singles. Now if Mick and Keith showed up, that's a different story. I got room for Charlie's drum kit. Move that in and we're talking. The Stones ARE. They are a current band, they are making current music. They have not become a nostalgic act for me. People will argue with me. But for me, in my reality, it might as well be 1969 for as fevered as I am over this band. I want new albums, tours, songs, quotes, tee shirts, pictures...I want it all. Don't stop. Keep it coming. Stones continue to captivate me. |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Jan 1st, 2010 at 10:00pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Dec 27th, 2009 at 6:03pm:
Either 7 or 8 - I'd have to go through my ticket stubs again. And SOMEONE - ahem - needs to update the setlists pages around here! 8-) I'm salivatin' for a tour! I wanna show off my new Keith bracelet! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jan 1st, 2010 at 11:01pm GotToRollMe wrote on Jan 1st, 2010 at 10:00pm:
Ok. well I went to 6 on the ABB tour and I didn't get Worried About You,Love is Strong,Ruby Tuesday,Heartbreaker,Out of Control,Sway,No Expectations,Can't You Hear Me Knocking,AIn't Too Proud to Beg or Loving Cup......I did get Start Me Up,Brown Sugar,Tumbling Dice,Jumping Jack Flash,Satisfaction and Sympathy For The Devil 6 times though.....And Sweet Virginia once. My biggest nugget of the tour. :warhorse :keithpunky |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 2:22am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 1st, 2010 at 11:01pm:
Ya gotta get offa that left coast and get thee to an MSG show this time around! |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by corgi37 on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 5:18am
I got "Angie"! Oh, and "LSTNT" (with Darryl on backing vocals!).
Daethgod hit the jackpot. He got "worried bout you". |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by andrews27 on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:02am
Suggested compilation title: "Fraught in the Aughts"
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by gimmekeef on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 9:22am corgi37 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 5:18am:
Atlanta Feb 2006 we got Sway and Worried back to back.Suweeeeeetttttt The set list Jumping Jack Flash Let's Spend The Night Together It's Only Rock'n Roll Oh No Not You Again Sway Worried About You Tumbling Dice Midnight Rambler Night Time Is The Right Time --- Introductions This Place Is Empty (Keith) Happy (Keith) Miss You (to B-stage) Rough Justice Get Off Of My Cloud Honky Tonk Women (to main stage) Sympathy For The Devil Start Me Up Satisfaction You Can't Always Get What You Want (encore) Brown Sugar (encore) |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 1:03pm GotToRollMe wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 2:22am:
Amen to that sister. That's my new years resolution. :willya |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by GotToRollMe on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 1:47pm
Hallelujah! We'll have a bible meeting!
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Gazza on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 1:50pm andrews27 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 7:02am:
They already released a compilation of the songs they released in the '00's...it was called 'A Bigger Bang' >:( |
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Title: Re: Stones in the Aughts Post by Boomy on Jan 2nd, 2010 at 3:32pm
Bummer that all we got were the ABB and 40L tracks in the 00's. What can ya do? Just see 'em live! Oh fuck yeah!
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