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Message started by BILL PERKS on Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:28pm

Title: RIP STU!
Post by BILL PERKS on Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:28pm
RIP STU! 24 YEARS GONE BY BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN HERE. :smilestu

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Post by Heart Of Stone on Dec 12th, 2009 at 12:33pm
Same here, R.I.P. Stu.

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Post by Gimme Shelter on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:03pm
RIP Stu :sad :smilestu

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Post by steel driving hammer on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:07pm
Chuch Level is so awful.

Stu was so good.

Rest In Peace all you Bastards!








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Post by Gazza on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:32pm
Charlie (or was it Ronnie) said at his funeral "Who's going to tell us off NOW"?

Another huge reason why he's still missed so much. :sad

RIP Stu.

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Post by GotToRollMe on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:33pm
RIP Stu.
:sad

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Post by mojoman on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:46pm
:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

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Post by steel driving hammer on Dec 12th, 2009 at 1:48pm
The Best...IMFO.

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Post by Factory Girl on Dec 12th, 2009 at 2:16pm
Both Stu and Nicky gone gone.  Huge fucking loss.

RIP Ian Stewart.  Thank you kindly.

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Post by Edith Grove on Dec 12th, 2009 at 4:24pm
RIP Stu


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/leepullen/h5-stufromstu-1.jpg?t=1260656583

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Post by Sioux on Dec 12th, 2009 at 5:06pm
Stu......the second Stone......always remembered and loved.

I LOVE Fabio's Stu drawing. :) I remember it from last year {?}. It's a wonderful recollection of what Stu was all about. 8-)

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Bingo on Dec 12th, 2009 at 5:41pm
The man should have been officially a Rolling Stone. RIP Stu.

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Post by LadyJane on Dec 12th, 2009 at 8:10pm
He will ALWAYS be an official Stone in my mind and heart.



RIP Stu.  :smilestu

LJ.

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Post by Kilroy on Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:48pm
the more I find out about this guy The more I realize what great musician really are.
He was defiantly one of the greats. The Stones IMO have Suffered somewhat with out this magical piece of the puzzle.
Thank you Jeri For the Photo.
IAndrums006.jpg (Attachment deleted)

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 13th, 2009 at 1:03am
Without ROCKSOFF...I would never have known the politics/genius behind STU!!!

RIP  dear soul!!!

you are loved and missed!!!!

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 13th, 2009 at 1:04am

Bingo wrote on Dec 12th, 2009 at 5:41pm:
The man should have been officially a Rolling Stone. RIP Stu.



I think we at RO...make him "official"!!!

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Zack on Dec 13th, 2009 at 1:32am
"It was Stu's band." - Keith

"Come you little showers of shit, you're on." - Stu

"The Rolling Stones, my little three-chord wonders." - Stu


RIP

:sad

RIP

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Post by Gazza on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:50am

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 12th, 2009 at 4:24pm:
RIP Stu


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/leepullen/h5-stufromstu-1.jpg?t=1260656583



I love that photo. The deference in Mick and Keith's faces is striking. It's like "OK, oh master - enlighten us!"

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:49am
Posted by with sssoul on IORR:



sorry, no credits

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:50am
Posted by Rockman on IORR:



once again, no credits, sorry!

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:55am

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:49am:
Posted by with sssoul on IORR:



sorry, no credits


That pic was posted as a header some years ago, it comes from the Ed Sullivan Show rehearsals on November 18, 1969

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Ginda on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:05pm
The Loog had his head up his ass when he decided Stu didn't fit the image.  He made them better.  RIP

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Teiz on Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:05pm
Great Header, great thread honouring a big man. RIP :sad

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Post by Bitch on Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:34pm
RIP Stu.

I thought it was STU who decided he didnt want to be an 'official' Rolling Stone because he didnt enjoy the limelight and wanted to be a 'behind the scenes' guy, which suited his personality.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Ginda on Dec 13th, 2009 at 4:02pm

Bitch wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:34pm:
RIP Stu.

I thought it was STU who decided he didnt want to be an 'official' Rolling Stone because he didnt enjoy the limelight and wanted to be a 'behind the scenes' guy, which suited his personality.


It was Andrew Loog Oldham who thought six in a group was too many and that Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  

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Post by uncleson on Dec 13th, 2009 at 4:26pm
RIP Stu.

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Post by left shoe shuffle on Dec 13th, 2009 at 4:49pm

24 years gone...
RIP, Stu.

Another nice photo from Jeri Holloway.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Paranoid Android on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:03pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart_(musician)

Does anyone know what exactly he did on UNDERCOVER??? I just got the 2009 release...and am really loving it...(I always did)...also...it states in the WIKI article he did not play on BB...why was this?!?

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:51pm

Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
The Loog had his head up his ass when he decided Stu didn't fit the image.  He made them better.  RIP


8 years ago I asked Andrew Loog Oldham why he fired him, this was his answer word-by-word

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."

:wtf3

Later in an interview, I think the one by Lisa Robinson he told that he was happy that way, not being a member of the Rolling Stones but being with them full time

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 13th, 2009 at 10:01pm

Teiz wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:05pm:
Great Header, great thread honouring a big man. RIP :sad


This was the first header this year, courtesy of Fabio "Hot Stuff" (Can't get enough)



Then this one by Dezo Hoffmann

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Ginda on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:03pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:51pm:

Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
The Loog had his head up his ass when he decided Stu didn't fit the image.  He made them better.  RIP


8 years ago I asked Andrew Loog Oldham why he fired him, this was his answer word-by-word

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."

:wtf3

Later in an interview, I think the one by Lisa Robinson he told that he was happy that way, not being a member of the Rolling Stones but being with them full time


Thanks Voodoo.  What other questions did you ask him?  I think it's interesting he still thinks it was the right call.  No way of telling now whether it was or wasn't, but I can tell you as a fan from day one that having Stu as a Stone would not have put me off at all.  That the Stones like to credit/blame ALO for "firing" Stu isn't a total surprise.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Irina on Dec 14th, 2009 at 11:35am







Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Gazza on Dec 14th, 2009 at 11:50am

Paranoid Android wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:03pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart_(musician)

Does anyone know what exactly he did on UNDERCOVER??? I just got the 2009 release...and am really loving it...(I always did)...also...it states in the WIKI article he did not play on BB...why was this?!?


Undercover album credits by nzentgraf.de

Line-up ‘Undercover’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘She Was Hot’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               STU (p)/Chuck Leavell (p)  
                Line-up ‘Tie You Up’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bass, bvoc)/CW
                               (dr)/Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Line-up ‘Wanna Hold You’: KR (voc, gtr)/RW (gtr, bass, bvoc)/CW (dr)
                 Line-up ‘Feel On Baby’: MJ (voc, harm)/KR (gtr, voc)/ RW (gtr)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Robbie Shakespeare (bass)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘Too Much Blood’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                                Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Jim Barber (gtr)/The Sugarhill Horn Section
                                CHOPS (horns)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘Pretty Beat Up’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (bass, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bvoc)/BW
                               (p)/CW (dr)/STU (org)/David Sanborn (sax)/The Sugarhill Horn
                                Section CHOPS (horns)
                 Line-up ‘Too Tough’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Line-up: ‘All The Way Down’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/ RW (gtr, bvoc)/
                                BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Chuck Leavell (el p)
                 Line-up ‘It Must Be Hell’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bvoc)/BW
                               (bass)/CW (dr)/Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Note: Lots of percussion was played on the album by BW, STU, Moustapha
                           Cisse, Brahms Coundoul, Martin Ditcham and Sly Dunbar.

Nicky Hopkins plays all of the piano parts on 'Beggars Banquet'. Why not Stu? Probably more to do with different styles than anything. Hopkins played most of the piano parts for the years he worked with the Stones as he was technically more versatile I suppose. Stu was more of a boogie-woogie type of player. He plays piano on tracks such as 'Jumpin Jack Flash', 'Let It Bleed' , 'Brown Sugar', 'Dead Flowers', 'Honky Tonk Women', 'Shake Your Hips', 'Stop Breaking Down', 'Silver Train' and 'Starfucker', 'IORR' and 'Dance Little Sister' from that 1968-74 era but thats about it as far as the studio releases go.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:29pm
[quote author=Ginda

Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  [/quote]


And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

RIP Stu.

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Post by Ade on Dec 14th, 2009 at 4:02pm
gone but never forgotten - you are much missed Mr Stewart.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by axl79 on Dec 14th, 2009 at 4:09pm
RIP STU
You will never be forgotten!

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by StPeteStone on Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:15pm

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:29pm:
[quote author=Ginda

Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  



And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

RIP Stu.
[/quote]

I pretty much agree with everything you said.  He looked more like a someones dad then a member of a pop group and that's a shame it mattered but it did.  What's a quiff?

RIP

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by left shoe shuffle on Dec 14th, 2009 at 7:15pm

StPeteStone wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:15pm:
What's a quiff?


A hairstyle...

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Ginda on Dec 14th, 2009 at 9:18pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 7:15pm:

StPeteStone wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:15pm:
What's a quiff?


A hairstyle...




And WHAT a hairstyle.  Thank you kindly.

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Post by Ginda on Dec 14th, 2009 at 9:22pm

StPeteStone wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:15pm:

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:29pm:
[quote author=Ginda

Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  



And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

RIP Stu.


I pretty much agree with everything you said.  He looked more like a someones dad then a member of a pop group and that's a shame it mattered but it did.  What's a quiff?

RIP
[/quote]

Maybe he did (or he and the other Stones) made the right call.  My point was that I've always had eyes for the Mickster, so Stu wouldn't have influenced me one way or the other.  Water under the bridge now.

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 14th, 2009 at 10:07pm
Other header, as you can see Stu could have had a better look, even as an early punk

:smilestu


In memory of the second Rolling Stone!
© Stu's Family Archives from the book "Stu" with thanks to Hannalee!

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 15th, 2009 at 8:52am

Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:03pm:
Thanks Voodoo.  What other questions did you ask him?  I think it's interesting he still thinks it was the right call.  No way of telling now whether it was or wasn't, but I can tell you as a fan from day one that having Stu as a Stone would not have put me off at all.  That the Stones like to credit/blame ALO for "firing" Stu isn't a total surprise.


It was back in 2001, dotmusic made something like a "interview by the fans" that was the only I made and the one he selected as the very first in the final document and the one with more details and exlpanations.

He can't sleep because of that LOL

:sad :smilestu

Title: Re: RIP STU!
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 17th, 2009 at 10:38pm

In memory of the second Rolling Stone!
Musicland Studios, Munich - November 1973
© 1973,2009 Michael Putland

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