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Message started by moy on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm

Title: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest day
Post by moy on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm
http://www.mercurynews.com/music/ci_13881533?nclick_check=1

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Gazza on Nov 29th, 2009 at 4:32pm
Link didn't work for me, Moy.

Not sure if its linked to the article you posted or not, but there's a one hour BBC radio special on Altamont next Saturday (5th December) at 10 pm.



Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Gazza on Nov 29th, 2009 at 4:44pm
Here's the details :

Shedding Hippie Blood: The Altamont Story
Listen:Next on:
Saturday, 22:00 on BBC Radio 2


Synopsis:

Huey Morgan tells the story of the Rolling Stones' 1969 Let It Bleed tour, a milestone in rock history that defined an era, and its tragic finale at the Altamont Speedway.

The band's previous tours had been brief, incandescent sets played to mostly screaming teenage girls. But as the 60s grew to a close, the Stones' music had evolved. They played longer sets, which charted their influences by including tracks by their blues heroes, and as Bill Wyman said; "for the first time the audiences were actually listening to what we playing".

1969 was the year of the free rock festival. The Stones' Hyde Park concert in London in July was followed a month later by Woodstock and, as their Let It Bleed tour rolled triumphantly across America, the Rolling Stones decided to end the decade with a massive free concert to thank their US fans for their continuing support.

The concert, held at Altamont Speedway in the scrublands of Northern California on 6th December, was meant to be the West Coast's answer to Woodstock but the event turned out so differently, some believe it signalled the end of the peace and love era. It was badly organised, Hell's Angels were providing security, and trouble started early on. Four people died including a young black man who was stabbed and kicked to death, at the front of the stage, as the Rolling Stones played Under My Thumb.

The programme features contributions from those who were on the road with the Stones on this groundbreaking tour including Mick Jagger's personal assistant, Georgia Bergman; the tour's business manager Ron Schneider; production manager Chip Monck; tour manager Sam Cutler; journalist Michael Lydon; photographer Ethan Russell; director Albert Maysles; and the Guardian's Eamonn McCabe.

Shedding Hippie Blood provides a fascinating insight into what Rolling Stone magazine at the time called "the biggest rock tour music has seen". It was a tour that defined an era with The Stones basically inventing stadium rock as their ground breaking journey unfolded. But it also represented the dark side that had emerged from a counterculture without control, conscience or conviction.






http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p6bnd




Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by corgi37 on Nov 30th, 2009 at 3:48am
Gawd, it's like it's like it was the end of the frigging world. Personally, i think there should be more German Shepherds roaming the stages. WOuld love to see a couple, or maybe even a Rottweiller or 3, onstage with U2.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Bitch on Nov 30th, 2009 at 8:08am
Yeah I watched it on GIMME SHELTER a few times, it happens so fast. My question is, who made the decision to hire Hell's Angels's as security? Or did they just show up and take over on their own? Hells Angels are a wild bunch of liquor, crystal meth and cocaine abusers ~ a stereotype for sure ~ but I know some of them and they are all night partiers in excess. They get some good shit!

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by riffkeither on Nov 30th, 2009 at 8:33am
here a link a the new rock n folk summary dec 2009

http://www.rocknfolk.com/site/zoom.php?sommaire=2165

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Heart Of Stone on Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:59pm

moy wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm:
http://www.mercurynews.com/music/ci_13881533?nclick_check=1


I have no trouble with this link (as Gazza earlier had) this explains who hired the Angels, Rock Scully, & explains quite a bit about it.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Wild Bill on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:05pm

moy wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm:
http://www.mercurynews.com/music/ci_13881533?nclick_check=1


I thought rock's darkest day was when Stevie Nix joined Fleetwood Mac.


Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm
People that were crushed in Cincinatti when doors opened for The Who might disgree on the Darkest Day comment

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Gazza on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:06pm

Bitch wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 8:08am:
Yeah I watched it on GIMME SHELTER a few times, it happens so fast. My question is, who made the decision to hire Hell's Angels's as security? Or did they just show up and take over on their own? Hells Angels are a wild bunch of liquor, crystal meth and cocaine abusers ~ a stereotype for sure ~ but I know some of them and they are all night partiers in excess. They get some good shit!



Well, I think the idea was that it was a bit unrealistic to expect 300,000 hippies - many of whom would have been off their tits on dope -  to be comfortable with being 'policed' by regular cops.

The local Hells Angels also did security at Hyde Park five months earlier without any incident. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a bit naive to expect the San Francisco chapter to be cut from the same cloth as their London counterparts. I think they had been hired as security at similar events in that area before without much bother though, so it wasnt as crazy an idea at the time to hire them as it does with the benefit of hindsight.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Heart Of Stone on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:12pm
I think when Lennon got shot, that was a dark day, as far as Altamont goes, I read about it in the newspaper, people just thought oh, another Rock festival, it wasn't looked upon as a dark day, it was to the families of that Hunter guy who got killed, but then again he had a gun pointing, I think Lennon's death really affected more people then that.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:37pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:06pm:
The local Hells Angels also did security at Hyde Park five months earlier without any incident. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a bit naive to expect the San Francisco chapter to be cut from the same cloth as their London counterparts. I think they had been hired as security at similar events in that area before without much bother though, so it wasnt as crazy an idea at the time to hire them as it does with the benefit of hindsight.


Interesting how the article downplays the "security" tag.

"Arguably the most infamous decision was to invite the Hells Angels to the party. Although the popular perception is that the bikers were hired as security, the arrangement was in reality much less formal. Scully and others say that in exchange for $500 in beer, they would park their hogs near the stage to provide a visual deterrent to anybody who might rush the stage or equipment. Hells Angels members have said the club had done the same for Grateful Dead shows in the past."

Visual deterrent?

If Mick had looked over at the Angel with the melting face, he might've been scared off...  


Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Gazza on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:55pm
I would certainly have thought that sitting/standing at the front of the stage en masse with pool cues would have been an even bigger 'visual deterrent' than the motorcycles!

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by AngieBlue on Nov 30th, 2009 at 6:06pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm:
People that were crushed in Cincinatti when doors opened for The Who might disgree on the Darkest Day comment


Agreed.  And John being shot by a 'fan.'  

The Angels had done security for the Grateful Dead without much trouble.  Mistake to hire them in hindsight, but it isn't very smart to bring a gun to a concert and whip it out less than a 100ft. from the stage either.  The guy should not have died, I'm not trying to justify that at all.  Just imagine what would happen now?  Pulling a gun out in front of a cop at a public event?

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Nellcote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 6:29pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm:
People that were crushed in Cincinatti when doors opened for The Who might disgree on the Darkest Day comment

Or the Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island where over 100 died.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:04pm

Nellcote wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 6:29pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 4:09pm:
People that were crushed in Cincinatti when doors opened for The Who might disgree on the Darkest Day comment

Or the Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island where over 100 died.

Exactly. Or the Metallica concert in Europe where many people died. Or this tragic event,or that one. Unfortunately way too many. But on the plus side. No matter how many dark days. We just keep rocking on right. :keithpunky :willya

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Bitch on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:31pm
Yeah well the Hells Angels DO make good 'visual deterrants' ~ I wouldnt want to fvck with those guys! I was always scared of them even though I acted like I wasnt. They are some crazy mother fvckers! So who hired them? I dont think MICK would of offered to pay them $500 in beer, so was it KEEF? He seems more likely to get involved with that type of crowd! Nobody wants to claim responsibility for it? Yeah, hind site is 20-20.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:33pm

Rock Scully

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Bitch on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:39pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:33pm:
Rock Scully

Who is he ~ the head Hells Angels guy?

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:43pm

"Rock Scully, the longtime manager of the Grateful Dead and one of the primary organizers of the festival."

www.mercurynews.com/music

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Bitch on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:49pm
Thanks lefty, I cant get that link. Cool name, too, it sounds insane.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by left shoe shuffle on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:58pm

Here's the article...

40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest day

By Jim Harrington
>@bayareanewsgroup.com
Posted: 11/28/2009 12:00:00 AM PST
Updated: 11/29/2009 03:51:26 AM PST

It was supposed to be "Woodstock West" — a free concert that would draw hundreds of thousands of fans, feature some of the biggest names in rock and solidify the still-blossoming Flower Power movement.

The Altamont Speedway Free Festival was also envisioned as the most famous music event in Bay Area history. It became just that, but for all the wrong reasons.

"It was just a big mess," says Rock Scully, the longtime manager of the Grateful Dead and one of the primary organizers of the festival.

About 300,000 fans turned out on Dec. 6, 1969, to the racetrack outside of Livermore to see the Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane and others. What they found was a venue ill-equipped to handle such a large crowd and a scene that devolved into a violent antithesis of the peaceful gathering in Woodstock 3½ months earlier.

By the time the night was over, four people were dead — two from hit-and-run accidents, one from drowning in an irrigation ditch and, most notoriously, one from repeated stab wounds at the hands of a Hells Angels member during a confrontation in front of the music stage.

Forty years later, organizers and witnesses still shake their heads over the string of bad decisions that added up to one of rock music's darkest days. While the tragedy was aired to the world in the Stones' documentary "Gimme Shelter," Scully says the 1970 film only hints at the horror that played out.

"Visually, I don't think anything could really nail down how terrible it was."

Concert nobody wanted

The Altamont story begins in London, where Scully had gone in mid-1969 to scout locations for a free concert featuring the Dead and the Airplane. He talked to the Stones, who were about to roll out on a North American tour, and wanted to do a free West Coast concert.

"They were taking some flak for their high ticket prices, and I just suggested that they play in Golden Gate Park," recalls Scully, who now lives in Monterey. "That's where it all started."

Scully, who'd helped with many free shows in the Bay Area, secured a concert permit for the park. One of the conditions, however, was that it couldn't be announced until 24 hours beforehand. Jagger, for whatever reason, spilled the news to the media, and the permit was instantly revoked.

Organizers found a new option in Sears Point (now Infineon Raceway) in Sonoma County. Work crews picked a small hilltop where they could erect a stage, which would have allowed bands to perform some 10-to-15 feet above the crowd. It could have been a vital safety feature.

"If (the Rolling Stones) had played at Sears Point, nothing would have happened," says Dennis McNally, longtime Grateful Dead publicist.

But Sears Point owners became peeved when they learned that the Stones planned to make the concert a pivotal scene in "Gimme Shelter." The festival again found itself without a home.

With just two days until showtime, Altamont Speedway owner Dick Carter offered his track, and organizers began a mad scramble to get it ready. By now, the momentum to put on the concert had attracted the likes of prominent San Francisco attorney Melvin Belli and Woodstock co-creator Michael Lang as organizers. But Bill Graham, the most experienced concert promoter in Northern California, wanted no part of it, says Gregg Perloff, co-founder of the Berkeley based concert promoter Another Planet.

"He said it was unsafe," says Perloff, who worked alongside Graham for more than a decade.

The day of the festival, Scully recalls, was a "doomsday scenario." The venue lacked the proper medical staff, parking space or other facilities to host a crowd that size, he says. Traffic was snarled for miles, as concertgoers simply abandoned their cars.

Arguably the most infamous decision was to invite the Hells Angels to the party. Although the popular perception is that the bikers were hired as security, the arrangement was in reality much less formal. Scully and others say that in exchange for $500 in beer, they would park their hogs near the stage to provide a visual deterrent to anybody who might rush the stage or equipment. Hells Angels members have said the club had done the same for Grateful Dead shows in the past.

But by the time the second act, Jefferson Airplane, took the stage, trouble had started. The Hells Angels and members of the increasingly unruly crowd began to fight. The film "Gimme Shelter" shows Airplane singer Marty Balin being knocked out by a Hells Angel.

"There were 30 to 50 (bikers), and however many hundred thousand people in front of them," McNally says. "There were a lot of very crazy, drug-addled people."

Deadly encounter

Witnessing the security problems, the Grateful Dead declined to play. But the show went on with performances by the Flying Burrito Brothers and Crosby, Stills & Nash. Then the Rolling Stones took the stage, and within minutes, chaos ensued. During their third number, "Sympathy for the Devil," the Stones had to stop playing.

Although Jagger begged fans to "just be cool down in the front there," the scene grew uglier. Eighteen-year-old Meredith Hunter reportedly tried to get onstage and was knocked back by the bikers. He returned with pistol in hand and was knifed by Hells Angel Alan Passaro — a scene captured in "Gimme Shelter."

"I saw the guy, Meredith Hunter, with his gun out, and I thought, 'Oh, crap, this is not good,' " Scully says. "He was just running around the crowd — it was sick — just stepping on people. I just prayed that somebody would stop him, but who is going to wrestle a guy to the ground with a gun at a concert like that? "... Had (the Angel) not been there, there would have been havoc."

Hunter died from his wounds, and autopsy reports showed that he was on methamphetamines at the time. Passaro was acquitted of murder charges after the jury viewed concert footage and decided that he had acted in self-defense.

The Stones, who may or may not have known that Hunter had died, returned to play eight more songs. According to Alamo resident Bob Matthews, who recorded the performance and still holds the tapes, the band delivered an inspired second set that closed, ironically, with "Street Fighting Man," a song that might have rung the closing bell on the Woodstock era.

"There's more than a grain of truth to that," McNally says. "The whole point of Woodstock was, you put 400,000 people together in a somewhat stressful situation and everyone behaves beautifully. Then, "... you get Altamont."

"That was such an awkward, horrible place to end up," says Scully, the anguish still evident in his voice 40 years later. "We had such lofty ideals going into the whole thing. It was awful."


www.mercurynews.com/music

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Lantern_High on Dec 1st, 2009 at 9:00am

Heart Of Stone wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:59pm:

moy wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm:
http://www.mercurynews.com/music/ci_13881533?nclick_check=1


I have no trouble with this link (as Gazza earlier had) this explains who hired the Angels, Rock Scully, & explains quite a bit about it.

I can't see the Mojo's link.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Heart Of Stone on Dec 1st, 2009 at 9:44am

Lantern_High wrote on Dec 1st, 2009 at 9:00am:

Heart Of Stone wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:59pm:

moy wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 1:12pm:
http://www.mercurynews.com/music/ci_13881533?nclick_check=1


I have no trouble with this link (as Gazza earlier had) this explains who hired the Angels, Rock Scully, & explains quite a bit about it.

I can't see the Mojo's link.


You mean you can't get it? Gazza mentioned earlier he couldn't get it either, I guess it depends on what part of the world you live in, or something.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 6:32am
An article by the very same Ethan Russell

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/6690506/The-Rolling-Stones-at-Altamont-the-day-the-music-died.html

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by uncleson on Dec 3rd, 2009 at 3:53pm

Heart Of Stone wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:12pm:
I think when Lennon got shot, that was a dark day, as far as Altamont goes, I read about it in the newspaper, people just thought oh, another Rock festival, it wasn't looked upon as a dark day, it was to the families of that Hunter guy who got killed, but then again he had a gun pointing, I think Lennon's death really affected more people then that.


I agree.  Another dark day was the day Buddy Holly's plane went down.

Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by left shoe shuffle on Dec 5th, 2009 at 10:48am

Rock & Roll's Worst Day

The aftermath of Altamont

JOHN BURKS Posted Feb 07, 1970 12:00 AM


Photograph by Ethan Russell courtesy of Let It Bleed

It was perhaps rock and roll's all-time worst day, December 6th, a day when everything went perfectly wrong. Altamont remains Topic A among the musicians who were there.

After all, it's not every day that a rock and roll band's performance, let alone the Rolling Stones', is accompanied by a knifing, stomping murder within a scream of the stage.

"The violence," Keith Richards told the London Evening Standard, "just in front of the stage was incredible. Looking back I don't think it was a good idea to have Hell's Angels there. But we had them at the suggestion of the Grateful Dead. "The trouble is it's a problem for us either way. If you don't have them to work for you as stewards, they come anyway and cause trouble. "But to be fair, out of the whole 300 Angels working as stewards, the vast majority did what they were supposed to do, which was to regulate the crowds as much as possible without causing any trouble. But there were about ten or twenty who were completely out of their minds -- trying to drive their motorcycles through the middle of the crowds.

"Really, the difference between the open air show we held here in Hyde Park and the one there is amazing. I think it illustrates the difference between the two countries. In Hyde Park everybody had a good time, and there was no trouble. You can put half a million young English people together and they won't start killing each other. That's the difference."

While Richards was satisfying the British press with his incredibly naive view of Western civilization, Meredith Hunter lay dead.

The Maysles Brothers, the film company which had shot the whole Stones' tour, complete with its violent climax at Altamont, had gotten some remarkable footage of Hunter's killing. No less than three cameras had caught the action, and one of them had the entire sequence from the time Hunter was knifed and down, surrounded by Angels. The face of the knifesman was clear, according to Maysles executive producer Porter Bibb.

Which makes it the hottest film property of 1970. Universal Pictures has already weighed in with the highest bid, (reportedly a higher than $1 million guarantee) and will release the movie by early summer.

The principal camera on this sequence was positioned fifteen feet over the stage, on the Grateful Dead's truck, perhaps thirty to thirty-five feet from the spot where Meredith Hunter was fatally stabbed. Amazingly enough, according to Bibb, the whole sequence is perfectly exposed and perfectly in focus. He could not let the press see it, he said, because the killer was too easily identifiable, especially by his Angels' colors on his back. If this information were to get out, Bibb and the Maysles fear they would be killed. They won't tell the cameramen's names for the same reason.

But Bibb was willing to give quite a detailed account of what's on the film, as he sees it. For one thing, the film shows Hunter making at least two charges on the stage during the forty-five minutes before his stabbing. Many others did the same that afternoon.

Then the camera picks up Hunter some eighteen or twenty rows out in the front-stage audience. (According to Rolling Stone's eyewitness account, the incident began at stage left, with an Angel grabbing Hunter's head, then punching him, then chasing him into the crowd, then knifing him in the back, as Hunter ran. It would be at this point that Hunter would appear back in the crowd, about to pull his gun. Which is what happens. Sheriff's detectives investigating the killing believe -- based partly upon photos subpoenaed from Rolling Stone -- that Hunter was at stage left, and was chased back to where the Maysles cameras pick him up.)

A pair of white men, one of them an Angel, run by Hunter, the black man. The Angel apparently brushes his arm. It looks as if Hunter is trying to brush something away where the Angel bumped him. He makes a face at the stage (perhaps a grimace), sticks out his tongue, and, as the lights catch his eyes, they look glazed.

With his right hand he reaches within his lime green suit coat -- the look on his face is extremely agitated -- and pulls a dark object out of his pocket. Simultaneously, he begins lurching forward, but unevenly, so it's difficult to tell what he's doing.

Six or eight Hell's Angels, who are standing at the front of the stage, start toward him, forming what looks like a protective football cup in reverse. A semi-circular cup facing Hunter.

A white girl in a white knit overblouse grabs Hunter's right arm, and appears to be shouting at him. There is a soundtrack, but none of this can be heard, for the Stones are into "Sympathy for the Devil" at high volume. (The girl is evidently Hunter's girl friend, Patty Bredahoff, who affirms that she was wearing a white knit overblouse. She has been instructed to give no interviews by the sheriff's men, and is following orders. Except to tell Rolling Stone that she has no recollection of tugging at Hunter's arm.)

Hunter brushes the girl aside. She grabs his left arm. He keeps on walking, dragging her forward.

The Angels begin to close in on him.

"It seems," says Bibb, "to last a thousand years, but it's maybe only five seconds."

For one fleeting moment, Hunter brings his right arm across the girl's white dress, in the camera's line of sight. There seems clearly to be the outline of a gun, though there's no detail on the object itself.

For that moment, the girl is the center of the action, frantically trying to pull Hunter away.

The crowd steps back.

Behind the semi-circle of Angels, between the stage and their backs, another Angel appears. Another of the cameras catches him reaching down to pick something up. It glints.

This Angel is wearing an orange bandanna around his neck -- probably a handkerchief knotted at his throat-and full Angels' colors. (Meaning that he is a full brother, not a prospective joiner; it was the "prospects," as they are called, who were responsible for a good portion of the earlier violence.)

A few frames later it is clear that he is holding a long silvery knife.

Suddenly he leaps through the air, over the backs of the other Angels, like a halfback slicing through the line.

His arm sweeps up to its highest reach, knife in hand, the knife once again clearly visible.

In one sweeping arc, the Angel grabs Hunter's right hand with his (the Angel's) left, spinning Hunter around so that he is facing away from the Angel, away from the stage--and--down comes the long knife, plunging deep into Hunter's right shoulder blade. The Angel rides Hunter to the ground, knifing him at least once more on the way down, midback. It's a classic street-fighter's move, beautifully executed.

And that is the last we see of Hunter for a long two minutes or so, as the Angels gather, tightly around, keeping everyone else at a distance. Before Hunter disappears, blood stains can be seen widening on his suit.

The coroner says there were five stab wounds. The film accounts for only two, once again suggesting the possibility that Hunter may have been stabbed earlier.

Then Angels and others carry Hunter away.

According to Bibb, the killer splits immediately after the other Angels gather around Hunter and is not seen again in another frame. No telling where he went.

In one frame, just before he is jumped, there is an unmistakable orange flash at the end of the pistol, Bibb adds. It lasts only for this one frame. Bibb is not saying this is a gunshot, and he's not saying it's not. It might be, say, a reflection off someone's watch or glasses. "The Angels say there was a shot fired," says Bibb. "I can't tell you. It's impossible, really, to tell what it is. None of us heard a shot." Bibb was eager to make one point: "This film is not going to exploit the killing. We had decided before Altamont to do a film, before we had seen any film of the killing or any of that. It doesn't hinge on the murder. We don't want to exploit the sensationalism of the thing."

The arrangement with the Stones is that they and the Maysles own the film 50-50 and are coproducing it. The Stones will help with the editing, but the Maysles have creative control over the cutting. This should begin before February.

There will be, in addition to the Altamont scenes, footage from the tour in New York, Boston, Florida, and the recording studio sessions in Muscle Shoals.

David Maysles was quoted in Rolling Stone's first Altamont story as telling one of his camera-men not to shoot one especially grotesque scene, to seek out good vibes instead. It's true, he did say that, according to Maysles executive producer Porter Bibb, but that was before the Maysles had truly grasped that ugliness and violence was the true nature of the day.

"We want to make it clear," Bibb said repeatedly, "that this film is going to be about violence about the relationship between the Stones and their American audience, and about the relationship of both to violence."

It was understood that Allen Klein, the Stones' manager, was going to make some sort of statement concerning Altamont on January 12th. But it never happened, and Klein was said to be en route to England, unavailable for comment, the following day.

Neither did anyone have anything to say about the insurance policy the Stones were said to have taken to pay for any damages during the concert. Plenty of ranchers whose fences were brought down, people whose heads were split, and so on, would like to know about that one.

Though Sam Cutler, who was responsible for paying the Angels $500 worth of beer to police Altamont, claims he's just been taking it easy since Altamont -- "my part in it is finished, it's up to others to take care of the left-over details" -- Sheriff's investigators have spoken with him twice, it is learned.

Detectives Chisholm and Donovan, who are pursuing the murder case for the Alameda County sheriff's department, say it's very nearly together enough to be presented to the District Attorney and the Grand Jury. They have two eye-witnesses, including Patty Bredahoff, Hunter's girlfriend, and are eager to get in touch with the eyewitness quoted in Rolling Stone, since his testimony would make their case that much stronger.

The eyewitness, who preferred to remain anonymous, fearing that the killer and his friends might get him, should be aware that he is one of several who saw it happen, and would not stand alone, and therefore has, the detectives feel, little to fear. To reach them, the phone number is 483-6520.

"It looks good," says Donovan of the information they've got. Asked whether it was an Angel who killed Meredith Hunter, Donovan said that was "reasonable to assume." Porter Bibb, of the Maysles organization, says the killer is quite recognizable in profile, in full face, and in three-quarter view. Donovan agrees (though Rock Scully, one of the Grateful Dead's managers, has seen the same footage repeatedly and claims identification would be very difficult).

One weird Altamont story has to do with a young Berkeley film-maker who claims to have gotten 8 mm footage of the killing. He got home from the affair Saturday and began telling his friends about his amazing film. His house was knocked over the next night, completely rifled. The thief ripped off only his film, nothing else.

Another far-out (and unconfirmed, because the Angels are not talking with the press) report from someone close to the Angels was that they were in possession of Meredith Hunter's pistol, wanted to turn it over to the Sheriff's investigators -- obviously, it would be useful to establish self-defense -- but didn't know how to go about doing it. If true, the Angels evidently solved their own problem. It is learned that investigators have had the gun since shortly after New Year's.

Mrs. Alta Mae Anderson, Meredith Hunter's mother, still had not been contacted by anyone involved with the free concert by January 5th, when she appeared before the Alameda County Planning Commission to request that the Altamont Raceway, where Hunter was killed, be turned into a public park.

"My son's blood is on the land," she said, "and I would like to see the land serve a useful purpose for the youth of Southern Alameda County. I cannot bring my son back, but by your action you may prevent any more wrongful deaths at Altamont."

In the end, the commission voted to allow the speedway to continue holding races, but barred any future rock and roll events, and limited the number of spectators to 3,000.

One sympathetic mother whose own teen-age son was only a few feet from the killing, Mrs. Cayren King, of Oakland, put Mrs. Anderson in touch with Ephraim Margolin, a respected (and tough) San Francisco civil liberties attorney, to represent her interests in the trial that is (reasonably) certain to come.

Meanwhile, many were growing impatient with the length of time it's taken for the District Attorney to move. He hasn't moved yet. Some claim that Alameda County authorities do not want to damage the fragile truce which exists between police and Hell's Angels.

But Rock Scully said it would be a "drag if it has to go through a courtroom scene." He has tried to put Altamont out of his mind, to concentrate on more positive matters. But Scully, the man who worked with Stones road manager Sam Cutler on advance preparations before the Stones' higher managerial echelons arrived in the Bay Area, says everybody he knows "is still upset about the whole thing."

"We were all dupes," he says, rather cryptically. "The thing wasn't ever straight. Everybody got had."

Having met with the Angels a couple of times, Scully says they don't dig having the film shown, because they feel it would be exploitation of the Angels.

(Another source says that the Maysles showed the film to the Angels in San Francisco, privately, and that the Angels' leaders demanded $6000 each for nine different California chapters. A total of $54,000. No confirmation on this from the Maysles. The Angels are said to have demanded the money or else . . .)

In any case, Scully now feels that the whole thing was a disaster, and feels foolish, in a way, about his participation in it.

"The Stones, man," he says, "they wrote the script. They got what they paid for. Let it bleed, man. There's never gonna be another one like it. Anybody should have seen this would have happened -- this whole trip, man -- if somebody tried to buy another Woodstock. We should have seen it, but we couldn't see that."

[From Issue 51 — February 7, 1970]

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Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Gazza on Dec 5th, 2009 at 1:11pm

Gazza wrote on Nov 29th, 2009 at 4:44pm:
Here's the details :

Shedding Hippie Blood: The Altamont Story
Listen:Next on:
Saturday, 22:00 on BBC Radio 2


Synopsis:

Huey Morgan tells the story of the Rolling Stones' 1969 Let It Bleed tour, a milestone in rock history that defined an era, and its tragic finale at the Altamont Speedway.

The band's previous tours had been brief, incandescent sets played to mostly screaming teenage girls. But as the 60s grew to a close, the Stones' music had evolved. They played longer sets, which charted their influences by including tracks by their blues heroes, and as Bill Wyman said; "for the first time the audiences were actually listening to what we playing".

1969 was the year of the free rock festival. The Stones' Hyde Park concert in London in July was followed a month later by Woodstock and, as their Let It Bleed tour rolled triumphantly across America, the Rolling Stones decided to end the decade with a massive free concert to thank their US fans for their continuing support.

The concert, held at Altamont Speedway in the scrublands of Northern California on 6th December, was meant to be the West Coast's answer to Woodstock but the event turned out so differently, some believe it signalled the end of the peace and love era. It was badly organised, Hell's Angels were providing security, and trouble started early on. Four people died including a young black man who was stabbed and kicked to death, at the front of the stage, as the Rolling Stones played Under My Thumb.

The programme features contributions from those who were on the road with the Stones on this groundbreaking tour including Mick Jagger's personal assistant, Georgia Bergman; the tour's business manager Ron Schneider; production manager Chip Monck; tour manager Sam Cutler; journalist Michael Lydon; photographer Ethan Russell; director Albert Maysles; and the Guardian's Eamonn McCabe.

Shedding Hippie Blood provides a fascinating insight into what Rolling Stone magazine at the time called "the biggest rock tour music has seen". It was a tour that defined an era with The Stones basically inventing stadium rock as their ground breaking journey unfolded. But it also represented the dark side that had emerged from a counterculture without control, conscience or conviction.






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Bumping this up. 10 pm (UK time)  BBC Radio 2

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Title: Re: 40 years after Altamont, rock music's darkest
Post by Voodoo Chile In Wonderland on Dec 7th, 2009 at 12:52pm
Altamont -- the Day Woodstock Died
By David Comfort
Published: December 07, 2009
http://www.thewrap.com/blog-entry/altamont-day-woodstock-died-11394?page=2

“You feel a responsibility. But I didn’t think of these things that you guys thought of, you in the press: this great loss of innocence, this cathartic end of the era ... I didn’t think of any of that.” -- Mick Jagger, to Rolling Stone’s Jann Wenner, 1995, explaining his reaction to the Altamont murder

Shortly after the Stones' disastrous concert 40 years ago, on Dec. 6, 1969, Rolling Stone magazine wrote a requiem, calling it “the product of diabolical egotism, hype, ineptitude, [and] money manipulation.”

As for the latter charge, Jagger had never made any bones about why he’d gotten into the rock 'n' roll business. It “seemed like the only way I was going to get the kind of bread I wanted,” he said.

During their 1969 U.S. tour, the Rolling Stones -- introducing themselves for the first time as “The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World” -- sold more than $1 million in tickets. When asked during a press conference if he was at last satisfied, Sir Mick famously replied, “Financially dissatisfied, sexually satisfied, philosophically trying.”

But, countering charges that his band was gouging fans with exorbitant ticket prices, Jagger agreed to a climactic free concert. Altamont was dubbed “Woodstock West,” after the historic love and peace festival which had taken place four months before while the "bad boys" of rock were in London recording "Let It Bleed."

Unaware that their lyrical carnages might become a concert reality, the Stones -- allegedly at the suggestion of the Grateful Dead’s manager -- engaged the California Hells Angels for stage security. Earlier that year, the band had successfully used a British chapter of the motorcycle gang for their Hyde Park concert held in memory of their founder Brian Jones, who had drowned in his swimming pool.

Fortunately for the frugal Mick, the California Angels demanded no cash for their services, but only 500 cases of beer. Which, during the earlier acts that day (Santana, Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young, the Jefferson Airplane), they supplemented with fistfuls of reds and Owsley acid.

The unpleasantness began when the Angels got to chilling fans with sawed-off pool cues, then KOed the Airplane’s singer, Marty Balin, when he objected. At this point, the Dead split while the splitting was still good. “It was a nice afternoon in hell,” Jerry Garcia later recalled.

At 5:50 that cold, December afternoon, just after darkness fell, an 18-year-old black youth, Meredith Hunter, was stabbed five times. Fleeing the Angels, he had pulled a revolver while Jagger sang “Under My Thumb.”

A few songs before this, Sir Mick had already had to interrupt “Sympathy for the Devil.” “Hey, people -- who’s fighting and what for?” he’d asked the wasted multitude. “Why are we fighting?”

After Hunter vanished under a hail of Angel blows, Jagger stopped dancing again. “If we are all one,” he pleaded, “let’s f---ing well show we’re all one!”

But Woodstock was ancient history. As the fans recoiled from the boy’s writhing body, Stanley Booth, the Stones’ biographer, caught a look. There was “a big hole in his spine … and his temple,” he later wrote. “You could see all the way in.”

Fifteen minutes later, stagehands had succeeded in carrying Hunter backstage through the mob. As he bled to death, the Stones played “Brown Sugar.” They followed it with "Let It Bleed’s" “Midnight Rambler.” “I stick my knife right down your throat, baby, and it hurts.”

By the time Hunter drew his last breath, the Angels were pummeling a naked girl unconscious on stage. Jagger, trying to appeal to their manly instincts, told them a group effort was not necessary for one acid-wasted chick.

Not appreciating security suggestions from a cross-dressing, mascaraed rooster, the bikers gave Jumpin Jack Flash the look Marty Balin had seen. Meanwhile, their leader put a gun to Keith Richards' head and said: “You keep f--in’ playing or you’re dead.”

The other half of the Glimmer Twins now began singing with new conviction.“Yeah, I see the storm is threatening my very life today. If I don’t get some shelter, I’m gonna fade away.”

After "Gimme Shelter," Sir Mick exhorted the 350,000 breathlessly: “Are we okay, I know we are . Are y’havin a good time? OHH-yeah!” He took another shot of Jack Daniels. “Well, there’s been a few hang-ups you know, but I mean generally you’ve been beau-ti-ful – you’ve been so groovy!”

The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World wrapped the set up with their “Street Fighting Man” swansong.

Then they made a run for the ambulance which had come too late for Hunter.

Jumping from it into an awaiting chopper, Richards yelled, “They’re sick, man -- they’re worse than the cops!”

“I’d rather have had cops!” Jagger shot back.

The Stones left for London the next day, escaping the process-server who tried to serve them Wrongful Death suit papers from Hunter’s mother, Altha. The band lawyers attempted to have her $500,000 lawsuit thrown out on a technicality. When the effort failed, Jagger & co. offered Altha $10,000. She accepted.

Meanwhile, the five Stones had attended a private viewing of their vanity documentary, "Gimme Shelter." After the climactic Altamont footage, they left the theater expressionless and without a word.

Since the event 40 years ago, the Stones have said little. But, when pressed, the ever candid Keith once explained: “For all the control you have over an audience, it doesn’t mean you can control the murders.”

Then he added: “What is evil?...

Everybody's Lucifer!

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