Just read that in the Jade Jagger boutique opening topic :

"Joined by girlfriend L’Wren Scott, Mick had left Paris, where he was working"

Hum...if this is true, what is Mick working on and most importantly WHERE ?!

I caught that too...I would love to have him as my waiter in some brasserie

Voodoo or Mojo they didnt know why Mick was doing in Paris?
I've read too.

Does MICK own a big home in France? I thought he did. Maybe he has a studio set up there!

Well he has this castle in Joue les Tours in the Loire Vallée where ABB was recorded and I just found out he had a flat in downtown Paris, but I doubt he has a studio in there. The plot thickens, I'm surprised Ianbillen hasn't jumped in yet!

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 7:59am:

I just found out he had a flat in downtown Paris,

Yeah, and Mr. Sarkozy thought it may be a little too close to Ms. Sarkozy's.  :perverted

Hehe...actually that's how I found out about that flat, when the Sarkozy couple, or rather Carla in view of the price, thought of buying YSL's former flat (if that's what you can call a 700sqm "domain" on the left bank of the Seine in Paris).

Bitch wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 7:01am:

Does MICK own a big home in France? I thought he did. Maybe he has a studio set up there!

Thats probably a couple of hundred miles south of Paris. He does have a studio in it. Thats where the Stones recorded much of their last album.

If he has a flat in Paris once again, it must be a new one. First I've heard of it.

Same here, we'd heard about Keith's flat, rue du Faubourg Saint Honoré, but not Mick's, apparently located 55 rue de Babylone.

Rue de Babylone? Now THAT'S a "Stonesy" address!!

Left bank just north of the Jardin du Luxembourg, if I'm not mistaken.

Barely a 20 minute stroll from Keith's place, then. Maybe shorter for L'wren.

I didnt realise you actually lived in Paris, gotdablouse. What part?

or: micks working paris

Gazza wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 3:28pm:

Rue de Babylone? Now THAT'S a "Stonesy" address!! Left bank just north of the Jardin du Luxembourg, if I'm not mistaken. Barely a 20 minute stroll from Keith's place, then. Maybe shorter for L'wren. I didnt realise you actually lived in Paris, gotdablouse. What part?

Just outside to the East actually.

I thought Keith had sold his apartment or at least had stopped using it ? I haven't heard of it since the interviews he gave there in the late 70s. Come to think of it he wasn't staying at the Warwick in 85 during the infamous DW sessions.

Yeah, I havent heard any mention of Keith being in Paris in recent years. Not sure if he still has that place. Seems to spend all his time now in Connecticut with some trips to Redlands and his place in the Caribbean (Turks & caicos, I think?)

Maybe he gave it to Marlon? I dont know.

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 7:59am:

The plot thickens, I'm surprised Ianbillen hasn't jumped in yet!

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Alright I'll bite. As totally out of the norm and nutty it is for me to take this stance I still gotta express it....

Just by Mick "working" in France is really no reason to get excited... the guy works on several projects. He even has his own film company as we all know. As well if it IS studio or writing work it could be for something un-related to The Stones. If the article said ..."working on The next Stones release" or something to that effect I would pay more attention here.

HOWEVER. Here is what truly does excite me. A particular user on iorr and from stonesvikings named something along the lines of "Bjorlf" is always "in the know" through an inside connection. He even named what the title A Bigger Bang was a week before we got wind of the rumor. As well he was first to hear it. He heard it two weeks before any of it was exposed to us. He is well respected for getting the inside scoop for them at iorr.org and Stonesvikings.

Well he said very recently that The Stones have already spent ample time in the studio working on the next Stones album. He did not say it was extremely recent, yet he says they already spent considerable studio time on it (although he gave no indication if he knew how far they have come with the album).

THIS word from Bjolf or whatever is what actually really excites me. He isn't one to cry wolf or over exaggerate things either.

Ian

I like the word working................. did some one say Beer. :blankfriggingstare1

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Ian Billen wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 9:09pm:

A particular user on iorr and from stonesvikings named something along the lines of "Bjorlf" is always "in the know" through an inside connection.

Bjornulf Vik is the iorr.org webmaster.
He's also published his fan club magazine for close to 30 years.

Definitely an insider...

Ian Billen wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 9:09pm:

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 7:59am: The plot thickens, I'm surprised Ianbillen hasn't jumped in yet! Well he said very recently that The Stones have already spent ample time in the studio working on the next Stones album. He did not say it was extremely recent, yet he says they already spent considerable studio time on it (although he gave no indication if he knew how far they have come with the album).Ian

Well that's good to hear, not in the least because it means they've been putting in some work over the years, not rushing it at the last minute like they've doing it since 1989 (with VL being en exception to some extent) as if they were recording albums each year.

Ian Billen wrote on Nov 28^th, 2009 at 9:09pm:

gotdablouse wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 7:59am: The plot thickens, I'm surprised Ianbillen hasn't jumped in yet! _____________________ Alright I'll bite. As totally out of the norm and nutty it is for me to take this stance I still gotta express it.... Just by Mick "working" in France is really no reason to get excited... the guy works on several projects. He even has his own film company as we all know. As well if it IS studio or writing work it could be for something un-related to The Stones. If the article said ..."working on The next Stones release" or something to that effect I would pay more attention here. HOWEVER. Here is what truly does excite me. A particular user on iorr and from stonesvikings named something along the lines of "Bjorlf" is always "in the know" through an inside connection. He even named what the title A Bigger Bang was a week before we got wind of the rumor. As well he was first to hear it. He heard it two weeks before any of it was exposed to us. He is well respected for getting the inside scoop for them at iorr.org and Stonesvikings. Well he said very recently that The Stones have already spent ample time in the studio working on the next Stones album. He did not say it was extremely recent, yet he says they already spent considerable studio time on it (although he gave no indication if he knew how far they have come with the album). THIS word from Bjolf or whatever is what actually really excites me. He isn't one to cry wolf or over exaggerate things either. Ian

Bjornulf . A user? he's the site owner.

He was actually very vague about what he said. As is actually often the case. "Quite a bit of studio time already" to be precise.

I think its quite natural to expect Mick to 'work' from time to time, in the sense that he would be working on songs. Its what a writer does. I'm  less convinced about the 'Stones' having been 'recording'as a unit though. They simply haven't been as much as in the same country at the same time to have done that - certainly not for any reasonable length of time. If they've been recording as a unit, its been down to the magic of pro tools!

[quote author=Gazza  his place in the Caribbean (Turks & caicos, I think?)
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Yep - and it one of our great nations few remainng overseas territories  :D

at this point the Stones got like 3 mediocre songs in the hopper and they know it

Well now I know who Bjornulf really is. I feel a bit silly in not knowing initially. However it was best to speak up, and gain the insight versus not saying anything at all and still being completely in the dark about it.

and as Gazza stated, he is pretty vague most of the time about what he knows or has heard in relation to Stones dealings before it is public knowledge. You can't blame him. It is a sign of professional entertainment conduct one might say. Yet at least he gives some basic info. which is the way it should be.

Cheers Everyone.


Ian

Gazza wrote on Nov 29^th, 2009 at 10:57am:

Ian Billen wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 9:09pm: gotdablouse wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 7:59am: The plot thickens, I'm surprised Ianbillen hasn't jumped in yet! _____________________ Alright I'll bite. As totally out of the norm and nutty it is for me to take this stance I still gotta express it.... Just by Mick "working" in France is really no reason to get excited... the guy works on several projects. He even has his own film company as we all know. As well if it IS studio or writing work it could be for something un-related to The Stones. If the article said ..."working on The next Stones release" or something to that effect I would pay more attention here. HOWEVER. Here is what truly does excite me. A particular user on iorr and from stonesvikings named something along the lines of "Bjorlf" is always "in the know" through an inside connection. He even named what the title A Bigger Bang was a week before we got wind of the rumor. As well he was first to hear it. He heard it two weeks before any of it was exposed to us. He is well respected for getting the inside scoop for them at iorr.org and Stonesvikings. Well he said very recently that The Stones have already spent ample time in the studio working on the next Stones album. He did not say it was extremely recent, yet he says they already spent considerable studio time on it (although he gave no indication if he knew how far they have come with the album). THIS word from Bjolf or whatever is what actually really excites me. He isn't one to cry wolf or over exaggerate things either. Ian Bjornulf . A user? he's the site owner. He was actually very vague about what he said. As is actually often the case. "Quite a bit of studio time already" to be precise. I think its quite natural to expect Mick to 'work' from time to time, in the sense that he would be working on songs. Its what a writer does. I'm  less convinced about the 'Stones' having been 'recording'as a unit though. They simply haven't been as much as in the same country at the same time to have done that - certainly not for any reasonable length of time. If they've been recording as a unit, its been down to the magic of pro tools!

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I think Pro-tools is going to be used if they are together as a unit, or as in your scenario, sending each-other sound tracks digitally and adding their own bit. It seems to come into play one way or another in almost every major recording acts recordings now-a-days....even if it is simply used as a fix, snip, and edit program (which is its main strength).

Still, lets say they HAVE been recording together as a unit. My question is yours ....when....?
They have been at separate ends of the world from each-other more lately from what I've read and followed of them as you pointed out.

Is it possible they have got together as a group for weekend/week spurts here and there in working something up? I mean, I suppose thats possible but it isn't their style so I am still clueless on how, and IF they actually spent plenty of studio time on this as Bjorlf said. He is normally pretty credible is why I took the comment so seriously and why I'm pondering this as you are..



Ian

Well I believe all of the Stones have turned up in Europe lately except Keith, or maybe he has snuck in Under the Radar.  

Bitch wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 8:13am:

Well I believe all of the Stones have turned up in Europe lately except Keith,  [/i]

Hardly a major accomplishment to turn up there considering all of them except Keith live there for at least 10 months of the year!! ;)

And if Keith ain't there, there's no Stones.

Gazza wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 10:14am:

Hardly a major accomplishment to turn up there considering all of them except Keith live there for at least 10 months of the year!! ;) And if Keith ain't there, there's no Stones.

What you're saying Gazza,.. may scare me. No Stones?
No Party. ;-)

Lantern_High wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 10:24am:

Gazza wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:14am: Hardly a major accomplishment to turn up there considering all of them except Keith live there for at least 10 months of the year!! ;) And if Keith ain't there, there's no Stones. What you're saying Gazza,.. may scare me. No Stones? No Party. ;-)

No, Lina. What I meant was that if Keith wasnt present, then its highly unlikely that the rest of the Stones would be recording together.  [smiley=smiley.gif]

Someone has to whip them into shape. :)

I have a hunch they're not recording new material. I think 2010 will be given over to marketing the Exile reissue, including any possible live dates. The old stuff sells better. It worked with Licks, after all. Maybe Mick will put out a solo record nobody cares about to feel current, but I'd say some outtakes from Exile w/ new overdubs are most likely. That's my two cents.

Gazza wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 10:31am:

Lantern_High wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:24am: Gazza wrote on Nov 30th, 2009 at 10:14am: Hardly a major accomplishment to turn up there considering all of them except Keith live there for at least 10 months of the year!! ;) And if Keith ain't there, there's no Stones. What you're saying Gazza,.. may scare me. No Stones? No Party. ;-) No, Lina. What I meant was that if Keith wasnt present, then its highly unlikely that the rest of the Stones would be recording together.  [smiley=smiley.gif] Someone has to whip them into shape. :)

Gazza,
A simple act, someone has to make the dirty work..
Find out where is Keith. And whip him on.
Take out Mick from the Notting Hill Boutique or any party he could be.. whip him too
Throw them in a recording room, and lock them once again.
You've to stay outsisde as you were a whippin' post.
tied them to the whippin post.
Andrew O, has back said them. Dont make sense my post, but I dont delete. :-)

Maybe not a bad idea based on the lackluster ABB, I'll be missing the "rush" of a new Stones release though...Granted with some more inspired playing and production and only 10 songs it could have been a different story.

polytoxic wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 11:05am:

I have a hunch they're not recording new material. I think 2010 will be given over to marketing the Exile reissue, including any possible live dates. The old stuff sells better. It worked with Licks, after all. Maybe Mick will put out a solo record nobody cares about to feel current, but I'd say some outtakes from Exile w/ new overdubs are most likely. That's my two cents.

A horrible concept, if it happened.

Mick Jagger touring behind a record he doesnt like or believe in that much and then not wanting to play many songs from it after the tour starts.

Cant see that happening.....oh, wait a minute,  they did that last time out.

Which was quite understandable, because Bang was well below average.  I'd rather see them tour behind a hit comp or a extended reissue than have them damage their legacy with another stinker like Bang.

They puled it off with B2B and that was probably their best tour ever, it doesn't take a lot when you think of it, two or three memorable songs, good playing (no drums by Mick please and get a guitar player who can play good licks, like Waddy), good production (can Was) and there you go. "Rain Fall Down" and "ONNYA" were the only standout tracks on ABB that they didn't manage to play live properly and also with maybe LMDSlow and LIND they didn't even try.

Teiz wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 12:14pm:

Which was quite understandable, because Bang was well below average.  I'd rather see them tour behind a hit comp or a extended reissue than have them damage their legacy with another stinker like Bang.

They've toured behind 40 Licks twice in a row. To do it a third time would be ripping the arse out of it.

I loved the Licks Tour. It had a great deal of pleasant surprises for me. While the Bang Tour had some great moments, it was IMO a step back. The extra gigs in Europe in 07 had more interesting sets btw.  

Teiz wrote on Nov 30^th, 2009 at 1:13pm:

I loved the Licks Tour. It had a great deal of pleasant surprises for me. While the Bang Tour had some great moments, it was IMO a step back. The extra gigs in Europe in 07 had more interesting sets btw.

Odd - I dont think they played anything at all in 2007 that hadnt been played in 2005/2006.

I loved the Licks tour as well. My favourite of all the tours I've seen. However, the interest in it was in the extensive dip into their back catalogue that they did at the arena and theatre shows. It made up for the lack of new material. The stadium shows were little more than a greatest hits set - and the ABB tour was basically a continuation of that.

The lack of new ground being broken creatively and the decline in performance levels made it a significant step back for me as well. Thats based on the recordings I've heard of the shows overall. I still enjoyed all 13 of the shows I attended however, and a couple at least were on a par wth pretty much any Stones gig I've seen.

I got All Down The Line, CYHMK?, She Was Hot, Sweet Virginia and It's All Over Now in Nijmegen in 2007. For a gig at a big festival site, that's quite something. The 2006 European gigs were a bit more static IMO, though they did do Sway on a few occasions (to be truthful, it didn't work well live though I'm glad I got to see it). Don't get me wrong though, I had a great time in 2006 too. It's just that Licks was better for me. I got to see them at a club gig back then, so I guess it's hard to top that in a stadium.

"if Keith ain't there, there's no Stones." .....


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You know, .. how true that statement is. I never realized it but they have up-started or worked for time periods on recording projects without Ronnie, without Mick, even at times without Charlie BUT it just doesn't happen without Mr. Keith Richards.

Sure he may not be present on a song or two once in a great while BUT as far as not being around when the writing process or working up a song goes or not being around when starting a recording project Keith is ALWAYS there. Now that I think about it he is the one "needed" ingredient. It just don't start to go down without him.


Nice Observation Gazza. You could not of put it more simply "No Keith ....no Stones". It's just that simple folks.


Ian

Well MICK was in NY for fashion week, maybe KEEF was there too, he ususlly goes with Patty and his 2 'model' daughters. Could be possible. No Ronnie but they dont need him yet, or Charlie. They can finish it off later. I wonder if L'Wren and Patty get along, that would make it more convenient if they liked each other socially, both being models and fashionistas!