Always wanted to know what he meant.

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Or was it a Mojo thing...?

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The little bitch can't handle Tabasco.  :pukey

It gave Mick acid reflux?

steel driving hammer wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 3:03pm:

It gave Mick acid reflux?

Or a fire in the hole..... :blankfriggingstare1

Wow, haven't given this one a listen in forever.  I think MT is incorrectly credited with the slide - it sounds like all Keef.

Been thinking to myself, surley looks a treat...

http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/louisiana/images/s/dining.jpg

steel driving hammer wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 3:09pm:

Been thinking to myself, surley looks a treat... http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/louisiana/images/s/dining.jpg

Out of season now. Mudbugs start up again around March/April.

Your up pretty late Edith no?

Everyday is in season! lol

Armadillo is always in season !

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Allright,somebody help me out and remind me what song this is from again? :-[

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Till The Next Goodbye




(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

Honey, is there any place that you would like to eat?
I know a coffee shop down on Fifty-Second Street
And I don't need no fancy food and I don't need no fancy wine
And I sure don't need the tears you cry
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you
Yeah, a movie house on Forty-Second Street
Ain't a very likely place for you and I to meet
Watching the snow swirl around your hair and around your feet
And I'm thinking to myself she surely looks a treat
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you
I can't go on like this, can ya? Can ya?
I can't go on like this, can ya?
You give me a cure all from New Orleans
Now that's a recipe I sure do need
Some cider vinegar and some elderberry wine
May cure all your ills, but it can't cure mine
Your Lou'siana recipes have let me down
Your Lou'siana recipes have surely let me down
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you
Till the next time that we say good bye
Til the next time that we kiss goodnight

:weed

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 3:24pm:

Armadillo is always in season ! http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/50802193_665c0be30f.jpg

'Possum on the half-shell.

Throwaway wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 3:06pm:

Wow, haven't given this one a listen in forever.  I think MT is incorrectly credited with the slide - it sounds like all Keef.

I have the opposite view, that Keith isn't playing on the song at all.

Thanks EG. I don't feel so stupid now,since it's a bit of an obscure tune.

I've always thought it meant that what she is trying to share with the guy in the song be it drink, drug, companionship, etc....just isn't working. They can't make the relationship work, but can't say goodbye to one another. She tries and tries, but to no avail. What works for you doesn't work for me.

I always thought the recipe MICK wasnt impressed with was the elderberry wine. If you ever tried it, it's nasty and I am a wine drinker, so I guessed MICK didnt like the wine and it made him sick, got him down and sick to his stomach.

Elderberry Wine
Available on the album Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player
Music: Elton John
Lyrics: Bernie Taupin
Piano: Elton John
Bass: Dee Murray
Electric guitar: Davey Johnstone
Brass arrangement: Gus Dudgeon
Trombone: Jacques Bolognesi
Trumpet: Ivan Jullien
Saxophones: Jean-Louis Chautemps, Alain Hatot


There's a fly in the window
A dog in the yard
And a year since I saw you
There's a trunk in the corner
I keep all my letters
My bills and demands I keep too

Well I can't help thinking
About the times
You were a wife of mine
You aimed to please me
Cooked black-eyed peas me
Made elderberry wine

Drunk all the time
Feeling fine on elderberry wine
Those were the days
We'd lay in the haze
Forget depressive times
How can I ever get it together
Without a wife in line
To pick the crop and get me hot
On elderberry wine

Round a tree in the summer
A fire in the fall
Flat out when they couldn't stand
The bottle went round
Like a woman down south
Passed on from hand to hand

Drunk all the time
Feeling fine on elderberry wine
Those were the days
We'd lay in the haze
Forget depressive times
How can I ever get it together
Without a wife in line
To pick the crop and get me hot
On elderberry wine

© 1972 Dick James Music Limited

[quote author=fuman quote]


I have the opposite view, that Keith isn't playing on the song at all.[/quote]


agree - i don't keef was anywhere near this tune....
its got MT and MJ all over it and its a great one.

I like your take Steel, -
this is one of those songs where Jagger uses some weird, esoteric references that are impossible to decipher, but yeah -
the essence of the song to me is that these two can't live with each other, but can't without each other....
I have a friend who called me up one day and asked: What does this song mean?
but i think that's it - two people who are always saying goodbye because they implode, but are always thinking about each other apart.

:sad

here's a new tangent.....
has anybody else ever used "louisiana recipes" in a lyric.   I think not.
THEREIN LIES THE GREATNESS OF THIS BAND

texile wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 9:14pm:

[quote author=fuman quote] I have the opposite view, that Keith isn't playing on the song at all.

agree - i don't keef was anywhere near this tune....
its got MT and MJ all over it and its a great one.

I like your take Steel, -
this is one of those songs where Jagger uses some weird, esoteric references that are impossible to decipher, but yeah -
the essence of the song to me is that these two can't live with each other, but can't without each other....
I have a friend who called me up one day and asked: What does this song mean?
but i think that's it - two people who are always saying goodbye because they implode, but are always thinking about each other apart.
[/quote]

You sure?  I dig the tune a lot - but you can definitely hear Keith on backing vox..and that slide part seems a bit simple for Little Mick.  Check out the playing during the "Can't go on like this" bridge - slide as single notes, doesn't resemble MT's style at all.

Bitch wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 7:09pm:

I always thought the recipe MICK wasnt impressed with was the elderberry wine. If you ever tried it, it's nasty and I am a wine drinker, so I guessed MICK didnt like the wine and it made him sick, got him down and sick to his stomach.

The "cure-all from New Orleans" contained not just elderberry wine but cider vinegar as well.  Having visited the Voodoo Museum in the French Quarter, I am reminded by "Louisiana recipes" of that aspect of New Orleans' Creole culture.

Steel Wheels wrote on Oct 14^th, 2009 at 7:00pm:

I've always thought it meant that what she is trying to share with the guy in the song be it drink, drug, companionship, etc....just isn't working. They can't make the relationship work, but can't say goodbye to one another. She tries and tries, but to no avail. What works for you doesn't work for me.

___________________


The thread presents a decent question and I agree with your take. As well, Mick is being typically "Mick" in his balladry in saying that unlike his chic, in this song, he's a sick, tormented soul that needs something much more than any type of home cooking or old fashioned recipe to bring him peace with himself and inner happiness which initially he thought may be possible and in hopes of making a strong and stable relationship.


This, in addition and in conjunction to your thoughts on these lines is what I think Mick means in this number. It is in the vain of a Stones ballad to have these deeper meanings. Much more than the typical ballads other artists do where in their ballads it is more often the simple equation of ..."I love you and how happy (or sad) I am". Many Stones songs and their ballads go much deeper than typical.

This is what makes so many Stones songs, and as well in case this ballad's meaning so unique and in a way ....very weary, at times drugged out, and kinda strange to the every day individual. Yet ...they understand. This is a major part of what has always made The Stones ....The Stones.


*I realize you know all this, but I did want to add my two simple bits. Cheers mate and nice insight. ;)


Ian

[quote author=Throwaway

You sure?  I dig the tune a lot - but you can definitely hear Keith on backing vox..and that slide part seems a bit simple for Little Mick.  Check out the playing during the "Can't go on like this" bridge - slide as single notes, doesn't resemble MT's style at all.[/quote]


can't bet my life on it, but i was always under the belief that Keef was very nearly inactive throughout alot of GHS and IORR...i may be wrong, but all those parts sound like MT to me....he added more fluid, melodic flourishes than Keef.....
plus, this was at that point where Keef was becoming less and less interested in the Stones albums.

Yeah I've always loved this song. The New York - New Orleans dynamic is a vast contrast in cultures. NY = sophistication. New Orleans = down home. So it's a tale of lovers from different cultures who cant seem to make it last.   Drink to it.  One more point is that when this song was written all the movie houses on 42nd Street were all XXX rated, this was the dirty and gritty 'porno district', NOT a lovely place to meet, unless you are a hooker!

TILL THE NEXT GOODBYE
(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

Honey, is there any place that you would like to eat?
I know a coffee shop down on Fifty-Second Street
And I don't need no fancy food and I don't need no fancy wine
And I sure don't need the tears you cry
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you

Yeah, a movie house on Forty-Second Street
Ain't a very lovely place for you and I to meet
Watching the snow swirl around your hair and around your feet
And I'm thinking to myself she surely looks a treat
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you

I can't go on like this, can ya? Can ya?
I can't go on like this, can ya?

You give me a cure all from New Orleans
Now that's a recipe I sure do need
Some cider vinegar and some elderberry wine
May cure all your ills, but it can't cure mine
Your Lou'siana recipes have let me down
Your Lou'siana recipes have surely let me down
Till the next time we say goodbye
Drink to it
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time we say goodbye
Till the next time that we kiss goodnight
I'll be thinking of you
I'll be thinking of you