Post by mojoman on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:27am
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GENERAL >> MAIN BOARD >> NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1239980139 Message started by BILL PERKS on Apr 17th, 2009 at 9:55am |
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Title: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by BILL PERKS on Apr 17th, 2009 at 9:55am
JUST BOUGHT NO SECURITY AGAIN AFTER BREAKIN THE ORIGINAL 5 YEARS AGO.. THIS CD IS FANTASTIC,VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF 97-99 SHOWS..I REMEMBER NOT REALLY LIKING IT WHEN RELEASED IN 98.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by ijwthstd on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:10am
I liked it a lot when it came out, not so much because it stands alone as a great live album, it was just great to have an awesome versions of a lot of songs like Sister Morphine.
I also like the chick on the cover. Does she post here? |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Nellcote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:21am BILL PERKS wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 9:55am:
Could you have at least waited until the remastered version came out? You know they have mouths to feed. Please, let's not have this happen again. Thank you for your continued support & cooperation. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:26am
" ...... I REMEMBER NOT REALLY LIKING IT WHEN RELEASED IN 98. "
I do not particularly care for your avatar(s) . Fly ! ™ |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by mojoman on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:27am Nellcote wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:21am:
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:27am
" Could you have at least waited until the remastered version came out?
You know they have mouths to feed. Please, let's not have this happen again. Thank you for your continued support & cooperation. " Hi Baby ..... Weeding this evening ?! Red Wine ?! www.HessCollection.com O'kins ! |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Throwaway on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:29am
My fav. from NS:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7852118453671430584&ei=NKDoSdfwNpKWrAKOpayeCQ&q=rolling+stones+saint+of+me&hl=en&client=firefox-a I thought I heard an angel cry.. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by mojoman on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:31am Joey wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:27am:
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:31am ijwthstd wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:10am:
She did but I banned her. Her boyfriend in the pic is actually an optometrist. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:47am
" She did but I banned her.
Her boyfriend in the pic is actually an optometrist. " Gazza .............................. GREAT NEWS !!!! : " Acoustic Groove " is at The Brazen Head tonight What time will you be arriving ?! Katie is now bartending on Friday Evenings and Meghan is back in town and wants her old job back at the Pub ( server / bartender [ weekends ] ) . I will have your pour waiting for you at the ' East Bar ' promptly at 9:45 PM CDT . The Back Patio should be OPEN : http://www.brazenheadpub.com/events.html Keith Moon usually arrives around 11:00 CDT ( ...watch out for Keith ; as you well know , that guy can DRINK !!!! ) Developing ......................................... Jacky ! |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:55am Joey wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:47am:
Im still boycotting the place in protest at Clive's continued absence, Joey. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by mojoman on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:56am ijwthstd wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:10am:
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:58am Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:31am:
These guys are still here, though. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 17th, 2009 at 11:36am
" Im still boycotting the place in protest at Clive's continued absence, Joey. "
Clive works every OTHER Friday evening ......... I believe he has the night off but ' The Groove ' packs them in so he might be working for awhile ... Developing ............................................................................ |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 17th, 2009 at 4:07pm
i think this cd is on of the stone's best live ones. the sister morphine song is great aswell as memory motel. i listened to this a few times this early spring.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Some Guy on Apr 17th, 2009 at 4:36pm
Meghan is in the weeds.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 17th, 2009 at 5:37pm
" Meghan is in the weeds . "
Meghan sounds like a very classy restaurant . Also , Meghan is the name of a bartender ( she recently returned from Oregon ) at The Brazen Head . Word . |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by SweetVirginia on Apr 17th, 2009 at 5:53pm
Joey, I'm not so sure the ladies at the Brazen Head give you their real names.....
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 17th, 2009 at 6:08pm wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 4:07pm:
well, the Stones performed 'Memory Motel' very nicely, but Dave Matthews' presence on it was about as welcome as a fart in a space suit.... |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by ijwthstd on Apr 17th, 2009 at 6:57pm Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 10:31am:
YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO You make me cry like a baby and shit liquid. I am hoping for a re-issue with bonus pictures. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 17th, 2009 at 8:29pm ijwthstd wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 6:57pm:
(courtesy, IORR) Photos were all taken at the Stones concert in Vienna Neustadt, Austria in July 1998. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 17th, 2009 at 8:57pm Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 6:08pm:
It would also be nice if they sang the WHOLE thing and didn't skip a verse. Plus I'm pissed that as great as the opening night NS show was in Oakland. Front row/best Stones EVER. I did not get MM....And after 19 shows,still have'nt.....Now that makes me shit liquid. :will-ya |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by mojoman on Apr 18th, 2009 at 12:36am Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 8:29pm:
luckily there are no outake photo's from oakland 97. we piss anywhere man indeed...... |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Zack on Apr 18th, 2009 at 5:39am
Perks, you are a radical. First Dirty Work, now this.
Any album that starts with YGMR and features Dave Matthews should be put up against the wall. Haven't you got Blessed Poison for goodness sake? P.S. You need to come around more. Joey's running amok. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by corgi37 on Apr 18th, 2009 at 7:32am
Thats pretty harsh to ban her, Gazza, just because her b/f was a optometrist.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by PartyDoll MEG on Apr 18th, 2009 at 7:35am
Perks..
You had me madly looking for this "wonderful" album :D in my organized chaos. Then, I found myself frantically trying to remember what was on it-other than "Memory Motel." Guess where I found it? It was next to DMB's "Crash"!!!!! No... I did not take it out and play it. I just relocated it to its proper spot on the shelf. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Joey on Apr 18th, 2009 at 10:34am
" Joey, I'm not so sure the ladies at the Brazen Head give you their real names.. "
< ------ Joey loves ' Bar Talk ' Oh, Lil' Fella ( Lil' Fijikins ) ....... you BAD !!!!! O'kins ! ™ |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by ijwthstd on Apr 18th, 2009 at 12:19pm
Thanks Gazza, they definitely used the hottest chick for the cover.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 18th, 2009 at 12:32pm corgi37 wrote on Apr 18th, 2009 at 7:32am:
:smile Looking at her, its a bit hard to believe her boyfriend is too bothered about his eyesight..... |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 18th, 2009 at 12:32pm ijwthstd wrote on Apr 18th, 2009 at 12:19pm:
Pretty stiff competition there, eh? |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 18th, 2009 at 4:03pm Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 6:08pm:
i think he blended in quite well in that song...it was perfect for him just like eddie vedder doing wild horses with mick. it nice that the stones share the stage and songs with other people. :wtf1 |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 18th, 2009 at 6:39pm
It sure is. Sometimes it just doesnt work out, though.
Pity, because they did some glorious versions of 'Memory Motel' on that tour (the Bremen broadcast for one). |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by glencar on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:25pm
I'm one who doesn't have a problem with DM on MM. He's got a nice voice & he blends in nicely. I don't really like his band that much either.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:41pm
i don't know what the chief's problem with the dmb is, but he sure sounds good singing with mick...much better than jack white dueting on loving cup from shine a light. like bitch pointed out awhile back he sounds like a little boy and i agree. dave mathews does not sound like a little boy. dave is an experienced singer.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:45pm wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:41pm:
Saying it was better than Jack White on SAL is damning with faint praise. I like Jack but that was simply an example of a poor song choice that didnt work. Nothin' against Dave personally - dont know enough about him to be honest - however Memory Motel is pretty special as its unusual in a Stones song to hear Mick and Keith trade lead vocals. Its also one of my favourite Stones songs, so I just saw it as an opportunity missed to get a good live rendition recorded for posterity. We waited a long time to get them to play it (I think Voodoo Lounge and BTB/No Security were maybe the only tours when they did) |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:58pm Gazza wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:45pm:
who'd a thunk eh. i sometimes wonder if the stones think they fucked up. i am not a large fan of the white stripes but when i first heard he was going to sing next to mick i was very excited...what the hell was i thinking. but i do think the stones, by and large make good decisions who sings with them. it will be interesting, if and when they tour again to see who they ask as guest appearances. :thatwassmart |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 19th, 2009 at 8:04pm wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 7:58pm:
this is true. Although sometimes its the ones that sound exciting on paper that end up being underwhelming. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 19th, 2009 at 8:07pm Gazza wrote on Apr 19th, 2009 at 8:04pm:
and he was a perfect example.....i guess. :wtf1 |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Saint Sway on Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:51am
No Security is a good live cd to turn your non fanatical friends onto bc its not smothered with the usual greatest hits. Some really good songs on there like Live With Me, Respectable and Morphine - that the non Stones fan that just owns 40 Licks might not otherwise know of.
hopefully one day they'll release a DVD of the tour bc it was THE COOLEST intro ever and seeing them rock on the no frills stage is a great antedote to all the naysayers that complain of the glitzy circus like stadium shows where they hide behind all their bells and whistles |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Zack on Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:59am Saint Sway wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:51am:
Is this a serious post about the Rolling Stones? Sway, are you feeling alright? |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:07am
When it came out, they made a conscious decision to not include any songs that had been on any live album in the last two decades, hence the somewhat ambitious (by Stones standards) track selection.
Unfortunately, the album absolutely tanked commercially - it was probably the worst selling and lowest charting album whose release they'd ever sanctioned. Even more unforgiveable when you consider that two weeks after it's release they announced the extension of their 1997-98 with a US leg named after the album which saw them ask (successfully) their fans to dig deeper and fork out unprecedently sky high prices to see them. A bit of a watershed on reflection. From then on there was more emphasis than ever before on getting rich bums on seats even if they often belonged to people who werent that interested in hearing anything beyond the 'hits' - although to the band's credit on that particular tour they still made the effort to dig deep and pull out a few fresh gems from the back catalogue. I remember Jagger commenting at the time that he'd introduce something like 'Moonlight Mile' and he could see bemused faces in the first few rows groaning to the effect of 'what the fuck is this?'. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:12am Saint Sway wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:51am:
as you probably know, the two shows at the end of the NS leg in San Jose were filmed for release, but the project was eventually shelved. Not sure why, but I think it was along the lines of the Stones/Jagger being dissatisfied with the performance. Pity. It was a good tour (despite Ronnie being largely AWOL throughout - although I'm sure thats nothing that a few overdubs couuldnt have fixed) and as you say, that intro was something special. It was also probably the last tour where Keith was consistently great. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Saint Sway on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:17am
agreed Gazza
most notable difference between SAL and NS is that on NS Keith played his instrument during You Got The Silver |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:25am
I honestly think that the reason Keith no longer plays and sings at the same time is related to a motor skills problem brought on by his accident. He only started doing this from the fall '06 American tour onwards. He's mentioned in interviews that he takes anti-seizure medication and its quite possible that playing guitar and singing at the same time could lead to a co-ordination problem that could trigger seizures. (he did have a few 'moments' of imbalance during the 2007 leg, remember, even falling over on at least one occasion).
Were you at the Hartford shows on that tour? Those two were my first US Stones shows and the first time (after 14 stadium shows) that I'd seen them play indoors. Voodoo, jaxx and myself decided to go to those shows and meet up for the first time as they'd decided to skip New York and these were the closest. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Saint Sway on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:33am Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:25am:
I was at the 1st of the 2 Hartford shows. Excellent. One of my favorite ever (I've been to over 50 shows) Drank at a pub down the block from the Civic Center where the Shidoobees had a gathering. Then went to the restaurant bar (Chuck's Steak House I think) in the Civic Center right before the show (had no interest in seeing the goo goo dolls) and was quite impressed with how it looked like the bar was looted by vikings!!! They were completely out of all whiskeys and bourbons - the racks behind the bar were all empty!!! Some hard drinking Stones fans had done us proud there. I wound up drinking B&B as it was all they had left. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:41am
the pub where we had the pre-show party was called The Hartford Brewery. Just a couple of blocks from the concert venue. Presumably its the same one you were in, as Stonesdoug was there as well. Princess Margaret from Shidoobee who lived locally organised it. Theres a few photos of us elsewhere on this website taken from it. We didnt hear a note of the Goo Goo Dolls either! Night two wasa bit better, I thought. Great seats helped and they did 'I Got The Blues' for the first time since its debut at the Marquee show in 1971. Made up for the disappointment in not getting 'Moonlight Mile' (it alternated with 'Memory Motel' which we'd got on night 1)
So there you go. We were probably standing drinking next to each other and didnt know it. You're a few shows up on me - I'm on 47. Then again, the fuckers havent played in MY neck of the woods since September 1965, when I was 2. >:( |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:51am Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:07am:
I know what you mean Gazza. When me and my buddy were in the front row for opening night in Oakland and Keith started playing YGTS. We went nuts...and everybody else around us looked at us like we were. Because they had no idea what song that was. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by mojoman on Apr 20th, 2009 at 11:46am Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:12am:
they filmed san jose? holy shiite!!! i only saw a couple of shows on that tour the second night sacramento and the second at the sja. both i thought were great. the moonlight mile is burned forever in my memory. didnt they rehearse at the fillmore? wish i could have made the hartford shows in 99 my brother had tix, i grew up bout 5 miles away and saw my first there in 81. a friend of friend owned the brewery which sadly is now defunct. to think that all you bastards were partying there kills me...... |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:24pm mojoman wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 11:46am:
Yep..they rehearsed at the Fillmore for a week and then moved to the Kaiser Arena in Oakland for dress rehearsals before the opening night at the Oakland Arena on January 25th. here we were at the Hartford Brewery...ten years younger and (in the case of Voodoo and I anyway), about 30 pounds lighter (sitting for several hours a week looking after a website takes a physical toll..LOL) |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Saint Sway on Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:28pm
thats so funny Gazza! I remember people in the bar with the Police tape wrapped around them
little did I know then that one of them would turn out to be Gerardo LOL |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:11pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:07am:
i saw one of the two shows they did for no security in hartford conn. we drove to the venue with no tickets in hand, but i must say i think i lucked out. i bought 2 tickets from a scalper and i paid 275 for them. at the time this was the most i ever paid to see the stones. the seats were really good ones tho...they were 1st row in the seating section just off to the side from the b stage...say around 7 oclockish. money well spent. it was the first time i heard micks voice actuallcrack and it was during honky tonk woman. i think the highest i have paid is 2 hundred for 1 ticket. :wtf1 |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Egon on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:24pm Gazza wrote on Apr 17th, 2009 at 8:29pm:
How the hell did that photographer manage to not take a picture of a fan in a suit |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:27pm Egon wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:24pm:
Two reasons, Egon 1) It was in Europe 2) It was 1998. Scruffy bastards still made up most of the audience at Stones shows back then. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by platter on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:54pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 5:27pm:
who you calling scruffy? it took 3 hours for my girlfriend to get nice and ready before this show. she looked beautiful. :booze |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by tumbledsomebody on Apr 21st, 2009 at 10:14am
was the girl on the cover GYPSY? (was she the one Gazza banned)??
inquiring minds are wondering??? I never know what the hell is going on in here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vwx8C43IGA |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 21st, 2009 at 10:29am Tumbled wrote on Apr 21st, 2009 at 10:14am:
I WAS joking, Sioux..LOL |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gimme Shelter on Apr 21st, 2009 at 11:27am
I went to both Sacramento shows on the NS Tour and they were incredible!!!!!!! Even though Mick had the flu at the first show the audience didn't know it during the performance.
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by tumbledsomebody on Apr 21st, 2009 at 1:13pm Gazza wrote on Apr 21st, 2009 at 10:29am:
Oy vey I never could afford to go to a stones show until 2002. isn't that criminal |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Soldatti on Apr 21st, 2009 at 7:12pm
A decent live album, but the St. Louis show is way better.
Not impressed about the NS tour. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by ijwthstd on Apr 21st, 2009 at 11:13pm Gazza wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:12am:
I was never really all that bummed that San Jose was never released, the shows weren't that good compared to the earlier ones in the tour. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm ijwthstd wrote on Apr 21st, 2009 at 11:13pm:
Yeah the Oakland show was far superior to both SJ shows. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 4:58pm sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
certainly was. One of the Stones' stronger 'opening nights' down the years |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by sweetcharmedlife on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 12:14am Gazza wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 4:58pm:
Yeah Gazza...Getting Oakland' is even better than getting Omaha'd :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Zack on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 6:35am sweetcharmedlife wrote on Apr 22nd, 2009 at 2:55pm:
Great show indeed. Would have been nicer if Ronnie had plugged in, though. Maybe it's just the version I have (called On The Moonlight Mile), but he's like, nowhere. |
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Title: Re: NO SECURITY APPRECIATION THREAD Post by Gazza on Apr 23rd, 2009 at 6:47am
I think that was pretty normal on that tour.
Ronnie said in an interview during the Licks tour that there have been tours that he simply doesnt remember doing. I would hazard a guess that No Security would be pretty near the top of that list. Musically, the only downside on an very good series of shows. |
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