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Title: miss you or hot stuff
Post by platter on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 6:14pm

i know...this is killing me too.

people please discuss.

:wtf1

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Paranoid Android on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 6:53pm

I think MISS YOU is one of the GREATEST songs of all time...Hot Stuff is a fine song...but just doesn't do it enuff for me...a waste in concert...would be better off used (recorded) as the band struts to the B Stage on foot.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by shotaway2 on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 6:59pm

Great question.
I prefer Hot Stuff for it's funkiness. Maybe just too burnt out on Miss You.

Hot Stuff sort of set the disco stage for the mass success of Miss You.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Edith Grove on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 7:57pm

Hot Stuff by a country mile. :thatwassmart

<- Disco still sucks !!

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 9:14pm

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 7:57pm:

Hot Stuff by a country mile. :thatwassmart

<- Disco still sucks !!

Yes disco does still suck.Which is why I despise both of these songs. As well as Fingerprint File. Because of that faux disco type sound. Either give me a lovely beautiful ballad. Or give me a balls out rocker. You can take the disco sound and shove it up someone's :kissmyass :willya

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Sioux on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 11:15pm

I pretty much agree. That's why I asked on another thread if I was the only fan who DIDN'T really like "Miss You". ;)

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Honky Tonk Man on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 3:34am

Miss You

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Zack on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 4:02am

Hot Stuff is pure James Brown derivitave. Miss You was perfect for the moment, is original, and has the coolest bass line ever. No contest.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by cabledogg2 on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 7:57am

No question HOT STUFF is a much better song than MISS YOU..................

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by platter on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 10:23am

after i posed this question i went and listened to hot stuff like 5 times in a row. i didn't need to listen to miss you because i knew i prefered that one. i just needed to check my head.

i think both are great tunes.

:wtf3

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Edith Grove on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 10:31am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 9:14pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 31^st, 2009 at 7:57pm:

Hot Stuff by a country mile. :thatwassmart

<- Disco still sucks !!

Yes disco does still suck.Which is why I despise both of these songs.

Funny, I never thought of HS as a disco tune. Sounds more reggae to me, but I suppose I can hear some disco in it.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Throwaway on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 11:21am

Studio: Miss You (especially the 8-11 minute versions)

Live: Hot Stuff (especially LYL)

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by GotToRollMe on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 11:30am

I like 'em both a lot, but I'd have to go with "Miss You"- the 12-inch version in particular.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH80IG9Rn7s

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Factory Girl on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 11:35am

OMG, I thought this thread was about a former poster Miss U.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by stonedinaustralia on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 4:05pm

Zack wrote on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 4:02am:

Hot Stuff is pure James Brown derivitave. Miss You was perfect for the moment, is original, and has the coolest bass line ever. No contest.

ah Zack - must disagree - i thought the straightfoward 4/4 beat of Miss You was not that original or exciting - i love sugar blue's harp - now i agree that was an original sound (ha! - tell that one to Larry Adler!) - well at least a break-away from mick's more or less blues harp stylings

HS on the other hand, while JB derived - to a degree I would say, not "pure(ly)" - for me taps deep into keith's own brand and idea of funkiness (for want of a better word) - the (hot) stuff indeed, which sets him apart from all others and HS is where it emerged fully formed, practically without warning - i can think of no other track released before it (ok - maybe Luxury at a pinch) that - overtly at least* - predicts it

* the fact is compared to his peers even keith's rock and roll eg JJF RO MM has an inherent "funk" that none of his peers (excepting Jimi, if you consider him one) could come close to

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by MrPleasant on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 7:34pm

I pick both!

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Gazza on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 7:51pm

Miss You by a mile. Especially the longer version. Its simply a GREAT record. "Hot Stuff" is merely a really good groove.

That said, I never wish to hear Miss You in concert again. Theyve never been able to do it justice live, especially after 1982. Hot Stuff has been badly overlooked post 1976. They did an absolutely smoking version of it - with a great horn arrangement - at the opening Voodoo Lounge show in DC in 1994, and then unforgivably dropped it from the rest of the tour. Its hardly been played since.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Fabio Hot Stuff on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 4:41am

. . .

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by speedfreakjive on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:53am

Gazza wrote on Feb 1^st, 2009 at 7:51pm:

I'd agree, Miss You is almost seminal, whereas Hot Stuff is an experimental groove that points towards Miss You and Emotional Rescue,
I'd say that the St Louis 98' version of Miss You is awesome though :wtf2

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Gazza on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:57am

The Bridges tour performances were the nadir. 12 minutes of arseing about which could have been used for two songs, but which basically were used to give Keith and Ronnie a cigarette break while Mick did that tiresome never-ending foreplay routine with Lisa and her shoe.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Throwaway on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 10:38am

Gazza wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2009 at 9:57am:

I try to skip it on the DVD. The real question for you masochists is, what's worse: Miss You live (after 82) or Rain Fall Down live??

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Gazza on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 10:54am

aside from the infamous "Salt Lake Incident" trainwreck, I quite liked Rain Fall Down when it was played live. In fact, it was one of the few ABB songs that they did justice to.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by glencar on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 11:38am

I wish they had done IWTL more than once/twice.

My vote is also for Miss You. And Miss U.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Bitch on Feb 3^rd, 2009 at 8:57pm

My favorite MICK-ism in Hot Stuff when he says 'SHAKE IT TUP' his hot British is so sexy, I just LOVE MICK's voice in Hot Stuff! It's a great song for fvcking. :perverted

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by texile on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 6:36pm

like others have pointed out,
hot stuff is a great riff, groove...
but miss you?
simply the last great stones classic.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by MaineMotels on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 7:05pm

Hot Stuff....
but...
.....Whopper or Big Mac?

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by platter on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 7:13pm

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 7:05pm:

Hot Stuff....
but...
.....Whopper or Big Mac?

big mac...no pickle.

Title: Re: miss you or hot stuff
Post by Gazza on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 7:19pm

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Feb 5^th, 2009 at 7:05pm:

Hot Stuff....
but...
.....Whopper or Big Mac?

Big Kahuna Burger!!