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Message started by MaineMotels on Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:22pm

Title: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:22pm
Lurkers can vote
but one vote

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by MaineMotels on Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:24pm
I'm going to go with underrated, if only because I think he has a keen sense of what tunes to cover.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoERITopmpE&feature=related

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Edith Grove on Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:29pm
Underrated - I think he had more to do with the Stones' creativity than most people know, and the Glimmers give him credit for.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Sioux on Jan 11th, 2009 at 6:32pm
I vote "underrated" too. He had melodic, inventive bass lines quite often.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Brainbell Jangler on Jan 11th, 2009 at 8:24pm
I think Charlie's opinion matters most on this question, and while I can't quote him precisely, I recall that he said something to the effect that you don't really notice Bill's playing until he stops and the bottom drops out of the music.  Plus, Bill came up with the riff for "Jumpin' Jack Flash," which alone justifies the underrrated rating.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Kilroy on Jan 13th, 2009 at 8:50pm

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 11th, 2009 at 5:29pm:
Underrated - I think he had more to do with the Stones' creativity than most people know, and the Glimmers give him credit for.


I AGREE THE SOUND HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. HE KNEW WHAT TO PLAY AND WHAT NOT TO PLAY, HIM AND THE DRUMMER MR CHARLIE WATTS MADE ONE OF THE BEST RYTHMN SECTIONS OF ALL TIME.
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Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by wiseblood on Jan 14th, 2009 at 7:04am
Funny topic as I was just talking about this very subject yesterday.

While Bill Wyman isn't the most talented bass player on the planet he was indeed the best bass player for the Rolling Stones.  With Daryl we lose a bit of the unpredictability factor we had with Bill.  Daryl is a monster.  No doubt, but you know he's good for a perfect night every night.  With Bill he was more on par with Keith and company in being quirky and again, the right fit for the band.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Bitch on Jan 14th, 2009 at 7:56am
Underrated.
There is something 'missing' since he left although I love Darryl, Bill had the intertwining STONES vibe down with Charlie and Keef.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by real wild child on Jan 14th, 2009 at 2:20pm
The only thing I know itīs I miss him...
He was at his best in the 78-82 era,especially on tour...

:boring

Comeback Bill!!!!!


Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by texile on Jan 14th, 2009 at 7:13pm

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jan 11th, 2009 at 8:24pm:
I think Charlie's opinion matters most on this question, and while I can't quote him precisely, I recall that he said something to the effect that you don't really notice Bill's playing until he stops and the bottom drops out of the music.  Plus, Bill came up with the riff for "Jumpin' Jack Flash," which alone justifies the underrrated rating.


that's the best explanation...
because i can't put my finger on it.
he seems to not be there, but then you're not really paying attention - because you're too wrapped up in the groove, the feel of the song....
and when you do think about it, you realize that he must be doing something right.
and it's not the same anymore - so that answers the question.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by sammy davis jr. on Jan 14th, 2009 at 8:52pm
WAY WAY Underrated. He's a fucking great bass player. Listen to When The Whip Comes Down for example- bouncing octaves, impeccable timing, awesome fills etc. I would love to hear how songs like Happy or Tumbling Dice would sound if Bill played on them. The rythymn hasn't been as good without him.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Brainbell Jangler on Jan 16th, 2009 at 11:43pm
A buddy of mine I've known since 1967 has been playing bass as long as I've known him.  He has the greatest admiration for Bill's work.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Heart Of Stone on Jan 17th, 2009 at 10:49am
Bill is way underrated, he fits The Stones (with Bass playing, along with being there from the beginning) just perfect, his 60's Bass playing inspired a lot of Bass players in rock, & I do miss him as a member of The Stones, it's too bad the flying got in the way, but he wanted to retire from The Stones anyway, he's a songwriter too, & I think he got sick from not getting credit with the Mick/Keith camp, same with Mick Taylor, he never got credit, that's the way it is with some bands, two ego manics take over.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by glencar on Jan 17th, 2009 at 2:52pm
6 people actually voted "overrated"? WTF? :whydontcha :areyoufuckingserious :wtf3

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Sioux on Jan 17th, 2009 at 3:03pm
"Ban them.....ban them nowwww.....woooooo".

:aimama :boring

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by 72Tele on Jan 17th, 2009 at 5:00pm
Both! When he left the Stones it was  like chili without the beans. Still satisfying but something fundamental is missing. It has nothing to do with Dary,l I mean he must be great, didn't he play in Madonna's band one tour? Bill Wyman  was self taught and a frustrated guitar player. He tried to emulate all the great early American Rock and Rollers but ended up playing with Keith Richards and Charlie Watts. A great mixture of frustration, influence and great musical peers. Alone who really gives a fuck? With Keith and Charlie, pick of the litter.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Brainbell Jangler on Jan 17th, 2009 at 6:24pm

wrote on Jan 17th, 2009 at 2:52pm:
6 people actually voted "overrated"? WTF? :whydontcha :areyoufuckingserious :wtf3

Howe come Darryl was allowed to vote 6 times?

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Zack on Jan 18th, 2009 at 3:51am

72Tele wrote on Jan 17th, 2009 at 5:00pm:
Daryl I mean he must be great, didn't he play in Madonna's band one tour?  


Do I sense a hint of sarcasm here?  

For me the clincher is the story from the OZ tour in 73 where he was so ill with fever he had no recollection of playing the show, but the tape reveals he was note perfect throughout.  That's talent if you ask me.

Title: Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Post by Glimmer Twin on Jan 21st, 2009 at 8:27pm
Way under rated.  Billy come back to the Stones.  :willya

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