So how many people were on the Grassy Knoll, and  What song of the Stones was on the Radio airwave  Nov 22, 1963?
What were you doing Where were you??

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Kilroy wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 9:05am:

So how many people were on the Grassy Knoll, and  What song of the Stones was on the Radio airwave  Nov 22, 1963? What were you doing Where were you??

Such a terrible anniversary.  I was at school and the announcement was unbelievable.  Teachers and students were crying.  We wanted to know if there hadn't been a mistake - couldn't President Kennedy just be wounded?  He couldn't be dead.  That night my entire family cried as we watched the news.  Such grief and rage that this had happened.  We hated the city of Dallas.  We didn't WANT LBJ as president.  We wanted JFK back.  We cheered when Jack Ruby (before our very eyes) shot Lee Harvey Oswald.  We thought at least the monster had been punished.  We thought he had acted alone back then.   Watching the funeral brought a huge wave of almost indescribable grief and then there was emptiness as the days passed.  Recordings of his speeches were purchased and played but he was gone and life had to go on.  And it did but it was never the same and I never hear the date November 22 without remembering.

Kilroy wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 9:05am:

So how many people were on the Grassy Knoll, and  What song of the Stones was on the Radio airwave  Nov 22, 1963? What were you doing Where were you??

I was in my 5th grade classroom. We watched reporting on TV.

I was in school..a Catholic one.(I survived it -yes I did ;))

We(the entire school) were immediately marched over to church and told and of course then we did what Catholics do.. ;)

I remember watching the coverage non stop on the telly for days. I believe school was canceled the next day, but there is where my memory fails me.

No idea what Stones song, Kilroy...
Sorry..what a poor historian I would make ;D

THE OFFICIAL DAY THAT THIS COUNTRY WENT IN THE TOILET...

BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 10:36am:

THE OFFICIAL DAY THAT THIS COUNTRY WENT IN THE TOILET...

Yes. ... and if you don't believe the official story you're a "conspiracy theorist", and if you do then you're a fool.

I have no memories at all as I was only 3.
I'm sure my Parents (especially Dad) were devastated.

A horrible day in our history. Horrible.

RIP President Kennedy.

LJ.

I was a baby and my mom was playing with me on the floor.
I don't remember it but she talked about it quite a bit.

After she died I found a whole bunch of different newspapers that she had taken very good care of from that week.

Very sobering to look at them 45 years later.
What a crazy time in our history with the height of the cold war and our President assassinated.

No wonder people bought bomb shelters!

I was in utero; my parents were at a hotel in Williamsburg, VA on a short vacation when they got the news.  

Clearly it was the Cubans who hired Oswald with Soviet assistance.  The missile crisis humiliated Castro.

Yes Nanky. The newspapers!
Same here.
Found them all when I had to break up the family home.

I once bought my Dad a Time Life book on the Camelot years for Xmas.
He couldn't look at it without tearing up. You don't forget the times when you see your Father's big blue Irish eyes fill with tears.

May they all Rest in Peace.

LJ.

Ten Thousand Motels wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 10:55am:

Yes. ... and if you don't believe the official story you're a "conspiracy theorist", and if you do then you're a fool.

Interesting theory here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkrjjTkjdk

I was sitting at the front door in my pram, apparently...

what's a pram?

half of me was in my mother's ovary and the other half was in my pop's testicles (possibly the left), where i would safely stay for the next 9 years and change.

kennedy is always glorified...mainly because the way he died, and the fact that he was young and good looking. had he lived, perhaps he would have been sucked intot the quagmire of vietnam like his successor....in any case, i don't think he would have turned out to be the saint that he is generally considered to be today.

Oh, we know he wasn't a saint....not by ANY stretch of the imagination....


A pram is a baby carriage. It's a very cool word, I think.  :)

I was 11. In Miss Heflin's 6th grade reading class. The janitor came in, and whispered in her ear to come out into the hallway. Then he evidently told her that Kennedy had been shot. She came back in the room, crying, and told us. Stunned silence. It was almost time for the last period of the day--Mr. Lippert's science class. As a group, we all changed classes together, so we silently went up the stairs to his room. I remember everything as if it just happened yesterday. The room was dark, save for a small desk lamp, lit up, on his desk. We all filed in, silently {I mean, serious. A group of 6th graders who didn't say a word for the rest of the day...}. Mr. Lippert had taken some kid's science project, a ham radio, and had tuned into a broadcast {the one with Walter Cronkite}. I remember putting my head down on the cool desk top and just listening. Not long after, it was reported that Kennedy had died. We just stayed there, listening, until the class, and the school day, was over.

Mom picked me up in our old black '51 Studebaker. I had saved some money to buy a horse statue I'd been eyeing in the local hardware store. But it was dark, cold, rainy.....and I just wasn't in the mood to do anything but go home. Wisely, my Mom said "Well, since you were going to buy the horse anyway, and since it's on the way home, why don't you go ahead and buy it?" So, I did. A black mare that I named Sonora Star. And I still have that horse statue. And every time I hold that horse in my hands, the entire day comes flooding back. So yes, in the long run, I'm glad I bought that black horse on that blackest of days....

The next day was Saturday and I spent most of my time, in the den, watching everything unfold on TV. That went on into Sunday, and then all day Monday {which was a day with schools and businesses closed}. My Dad thought I was obsessed. I guess maybe I was. But I knew, even in my little 11 year old mind, that it was a pivotal day in our nation's history. And the first of several assassinations that would haunt us during that most fascinating, and tumultuous, of decades.

I was born in 1967... I never experienced someone being assasinated and having it be a global event until John Lennon. And that sucked, so I'm sure this was very much the same!

i am not sure where i was. i was only 1 year old.  probably playing with my blocks.

:pullanolte

" ....on the Grassy Knoll, and  What song of the Stones was on the Radio airwave  Nov 22, 1963?
What were you doing Where were you ?? "


The assassination of JFK was THE most significant event in the short history of the United States of America because it led to the Watershed Presidency of one Lyndon Baines Johnson .

If JFK had not been assassinated then LBJ NEVER would have become President -- He ( LBJ ) would have been too old in 1968  ;  had the heart condition  ( used to joke that men in the Johnson Family never had long lives  ) ;  was despised by the Kennedys ( RFK did not even TRY to hide his antipathy towards Lyndon ) and was about to be dumped from the 1964 Ticket ( ..was not ' needed ' anymore what with JFK's seventy percent approval rating nation-wide ) .  


Before Lyndon Johnson became President there was no such thing as the following :


The Civil Rights Act
The Voting Rights Act
Medicare
Medicaid
Clean Water Act
PBS
Fair Housing Act
HUD
HEW
OSHA
All Great Society Legislation
All ' War on Poverty ' Legislation
Young Joey
....oh , and before Lyndon Johnson became President .. very few people had ever heard of the word : Vietnam .


LBJACKY !  

Joey wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 4:49pm:

" ....on the Grassy Knoll, and  What song of the Stones was on the Radio airwave  Nov 22, 1963? What were you doing Where were you ?? " The assassination of JFK was THE most significant event in the short history of the United States of America because it led to the Watershed Presidency of one Lyndon Baines Johnson . If JFK had not been assassinated then LBJ NEVER would have become President -- He ( LBJ ) would have been too old in 1968  ;  had the heart condition  ( used to joke that men in the Johnson Family never had long lives  ) ;  was despised by the Kennedys ( RFK did not even TRY to hide his antipathy towards Lyndon ) and was about to be dumped from the 1964 Ticket ( ..was not ' needed ' anymore what with JFK's seventy percent approval rating nation-wide ) .   Before Lyndon Johnson became President there was no such thing as the following : The Civil Rights Act The Voting Rights Act Medicare Medicaid Clean Water Act PBS Fair Housing Act HUD HEW OSHA All Great Society Legislation All ' War on Poverty ' Legislation Young Joey ....oh , and before Lyndon Johnson became President .. very few people had ever heard of the word : Vietnam . LBJACKY !

BAD FACTS AS USUAL JOEY...LBJ'S GREAT SOCIETY JUST RAN OFF KENNEDY'S COATTAILS AND GOT PASSED TO HONOR OUR SLAIN LEADER.
LBJ WAS NOT GOING TO BE DROPPED IN 1964.

YOUR BOY'S CONTRIBUTION WAS ESCALATING THE VIETMAN WAR AND COSTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES.. NOT EVEN W HAS THAT MUCH BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.


HE ALSO PROBABLY HAD KNOWLEDGE OR A PART IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION.

RIP LBJ  

" BAD FACTS AS USUAL JOEY...LBJ'S GREAT SOCIETY JUST RAN OFF KENNEDY'S COATTAILS AND GOT PASSED TO HONOR OUR SLAIN LEADER.
LBJ WAS NOT GOING TO BE DROPPED IN 1964.

YOUR BOY'S CONTRIBUTION WAS ESCALATING THE VIETMAN WAR AND COSTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES.. NOT EVEN W HAS THAT MUCH BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.


HE ALSO PROBABLY HAD KNOWLEDGE OR A PART IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION.

RIP LBJ  "


************* SIGH !!!! ****************



www.ROBERTCARO.com

"To show power truly you not only have to show how it is used but also its effect on those on whom it is used. You have to show the effect of power on the powerless."

—Robert A. Caro.

I was not even close to being born yet for the Assassination of Kennedy (John).  

Pearl Harbor, JFK Assasination, and 9/11 are the three tragic days this country will never forget.

If you were alive and were old enough for any of these shocking events you always remember just what you were doing that day and possibly exactly how you found out.



Ian

'I Wanna Be Your Man'

Ian Billen wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 9:21pm:

I was not even close to being born yet for the Assassination of Kennedy (John).   Pearl Harbor, JFK Assasination, and 9/11 are the three tragic days this country will never forget. If you were alive and were old enough for any of these shocking events you always remember just what you were doing that day and possibly exactly how you found out. Ian

well i remember where i was on the day of 9/11 and how i found out about it, but honestly i do forget what i was doing.

:pullanolte

" If you were alive and were old enough for any of these shocking events you always remember just what you were doing that day and possibly exactly how you found out.  "

< ---- Joey was very busy ' straining stool ' during EACH of these events .

So True Lil' Fella ( Lil' Fijikins ) ........ so true !!!!



'kins ! ™

Did anyone else ever see the hilarious Seinfeld spoof with Keith Hernandez and the magic loogie?

I was a kid back then but remember the news on the TV and my mom crying about it  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:23pm:

Did anyone else ever see the hilarious Seinfeld spoof with Keith Hernandez and the magic loogie?

no i didn't.  was it anything like that scene in that adam sandler movie where he is teaching a young guy how to spit.  he hawks a loogie and just before it hits the pavement he sucks it all back up again.  

:pullanolte

wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:27pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 23rd, 2008 at 12:23pm: Did anyone else ever see the hilarious Seinfeld spoof with Keith Hernandez and the magic loogie? no i didn't.  was it anything like that scene in that adam sandler movie where he is teaching a young guy how to spit.  he hawks a loogie and just before it hits the pavement he sucks it all back up again.   :pullanolte

Not at all.  The Seinfeld bit was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkCQ8qR5-i0

robpop wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2008 at 12:31pm:

wrote on Nov 23rd, 2008 at 12:27pm: sweetcharmedlife wrote on Nov 23rd, 2008 at 12:23pm: Did anyone else ever see the hilarious Seinfeld spoof with Keith Hernandez and the magic loogie? no i didn't.  was it anything like that scene in that adam sandler movie where he is teaching a young guy how to spit.  he hawks a loogie and just before it hits the pavement he sucks it all back up again.   :pullanolte Not at all.  The Seinfeld bit was funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkCQ8qR5-i0

Yeah that's the one...Classic.

I remember that morning (it was still before lunch on the West Coast when we heard the news).  I was nine years old; it was a Friday.  The doomsday foreboding of the Cuban Missile Crisis was barely a year past.  The young President, the one my even younger mother had worked to help elect, the color TV image that had replaced the black & white Eisenhower memories of my preschool days, was dead.  Shot dead.  As dead as a guest star on Maverick or The Untouchables.  But this was a whole new script; the star of the show was dead, and his slow-drawling, cold-eyed, gun-slinging Texas sidekick had taken over.  But the gunplay wasn't over, and two days later, the accused shootist is cut down like a dog in front of all of us in a perfect cinematic melding of cowboy and gangster imagery.  Reality assumed the form of our dominant national myths, reflections of the Great Myth of the Dying God and Sacrificed King.  And with the collective psyche in this atavistically aroused state, eleven times seven days from that Sunday when the life of the stray goat Oswald was offered up in expiation for the death of the King, four minstrel-magicians appeared in our midst to lead us away from the blood-stained altars of our ancestors.  Our culture of music and joy meant life to us as surely as their culture of hatred and violence meant death:  to JFK, Malcolm, Martin, Bobby, Fred Hampton, the Vietnamese people and all its other victims.  It was all about the music, but the music was about so much more than only rock'n'roll.

" LBJ WAS NOT GOING TO BE DROPPED IN 1964. "


WHAT .. ?! .... !!!! :


http://forumspile.com/Shit-Flag.gif



JFK treated Lyndon with respect but everyone else around Kennedy made fun of the Vice President .

Whenever V.P. Johnson went on overseas trips , Bobby Kennedy used to send uncoded messages to the embassies ( uncoded so that EVERYONE could read the damn things ) stating that the Vice President of the United states does NOT speak for the government and is NOT to be greeted as an emissary of the President .


They ( The Kennedys ) were just ASKING for it !!!!!!



" Hit Me RonnieCakes !!! "




LBJOEY !!!!!

Sioux wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2008 at 3:04pm:

I was 11. In Miss Heflin's 6th grade reading class. The janitor came in, and whispered in her ear to come out into the hallway. Then he evidently told her that Kennedy had been shot. She came back in the room, crying, and told us. Stunned silence. It was almost time for the last period of the day--Mr. Lippert's science class. As a group, we all changed classes together, so we silently went up the stairs to his room. I remember everything as if it just happened yesterday. The room was dark, save for a small desk lamp, lit up, on his desk. We all filed in, silently {I mean, serious. A group of 6th graders who didn't say a word for the rest of the day...}. Mr. Lippert had taken some kid's science project, a ham radio, and had tuned into a broadcast {the one with Walter Cronkite}. I remember putting my head down on the cool desk top and just listening. Not long after, it was reported that Kennedy had died. We just stayed there, listening, until the class, and the school day, was over. Mom picked me up in our old black '51 Studebaker. I had saved some money to buy a horse statue I'd been eyeing in the local hardware store. But it was dark, cold, rainy.....and I just wasn't in the mood to do anything but go home. Wisely, my Mom said "Well, since you were going to buy the horse anyway, and since it's on the way home, why don't you go ahead and buy it?" So, I did. A black mare that I named Sonora Star. And I still have that horse statue. And every time I hold that horse in my hands, the entire day comes flooding back. So yes, in the long run, I'm glad I bought that black horse on that blackest of days.... The next day was Saturday and I spent most of my time, in the den, watching everything unfold on TV. That went on into Sunday, and then all day Monday {which was a day with schools and businesses closed}. My Dad thought I was obsessed. I guess maybe I was. But I knew, even in my little 11 year old mind, that it was a pivotal day in our nation's history. And the first of several assassinations that would haunt us during that most fascinating, and tumultuous, of decades.

that's a watershed moment..
i wasn't born yet, but my mom remembers ironing and watching as the world turns when the news came on....
in a way, i envy those of you who carry that memory....
it was tragic, but it seemed to bond you to something epic and deep in our national conscousness and to time when everything seemed possible.
i've never had that.

It really was the first time since WWII, I guess, that the nation had come together so closely, so quickly. I was born 7 years after the war ended....

There were many, many moments in the 60's that were so amazing, so shocking and breathtaking, so life changing....and you just had to "be there" to really understand what it was all about. There was a lot of "bad"---Vietnam, the assassinations of JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, and Bobby Kennedy, many who lost lives and property in the quest for equality of ALL men....There was SO much "good"---the music!!!!, the space race {it was a BIG deal}, fashion, the arts...even "classic" TV and some great movies. Watershed moments, for sure. Thankfully I was awake, alert, and in my right mind for the entire decade. I wouldn't have wanted to miss anything.....:)

And, if someone offered to give me 10 or 20 years of my life back, to turn back the clock, if I would give up living through the 60's, I would have to say NO. Even as a teen, I knew I was living through an amazing time. It was early '66 and I was listening to the radio--the DJ was practically wetting his pants in his excitement and anticipation for playing the newest Beatles song on the air for the first time. And it was in that brief moment that I realized that 1. This was an AMAZING time to be alive. and 2. This was an AMAZING time to be a teenager. Very, very true. :)

"back and to the left.......back and to the left"

"back and to the left.......back and to the left"

Ade ..... you make young Joeykins smile .


J " Snuggles " Fly ! ™

it's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma, Joeykins.  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

" it's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma, Joeykins.  "


< --- So is Joey's arse !!!!



Oh, Lil' Fella ( Lil' Fijikins )   ...   How COULD you ?!   ...before a Holiday nonetheless . Why ?!

Joey wrote on Nov 24^th, 2008 at 4:15pm:

" LBJ WAS NOT GOING TO BE DROPPED IN 1964. " WHAT .. ?! .... !!!! : http://forumspile.com/Shit-Flag.gif JFK treated Lyndon with respect but everyone else around Kennedy made fun of the Vice President . Whenever V.P. Johnson went on overseas trips , Bobby Kennedy used to send uncoded messages to the embassies ( uncoded so that EVERYONE could read the damn things ) stating that the Vice President of the United states does NOT speak for the government and is NOT to be greeted as an emissary of the President . They ( The Kennedys ) were just ASKING for it !!!!!! " Hit Me RonnieCakes !!! " LBJOEY !!!!!

HE WAS GOING TO DROP LBJ AND PUT DAVID FERRIE ON THE TICKET!
THAT'S THE TICKET!

JOEY,OSWALD HAD MAGGIE'S DRAWERS!

" HE WAS GOING TO DROP LBJ AND PUT DAVID FERRIE ON THE TICKET!
THAT'S THE TICKET!

JOEY,OSWALD HAD MAGGIE'S DRAWERS!  "


Perks ....................................................................... !!!! :


I would like to baste you in milk for 48 hours, hog-tie you and let hungry baby lambs skeletonize your quivering, quaking carcass.





http://www.shetlandtourism.com/images/Cunningsburgh%20Show%20Sheep.jpg

" JOEY,OSWALD HAD MAGGIE'S DRAWERS!  "


Katy tried
I was halfway crucified
I was on the other side
Of no tomorrow
You walked in
And my life began again
Just when I'd spent the last piaster
I could borrow
All night long
We would sing that stupid song
And every word we sang
I knew was true
Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
Are you crazy are you high
Or just an ordinary guy
Have you done all you can do
Are you with me Doctor

Don't seem right
I've been strung out here all night
I've been waiting for the taste
You said you'd bring to me
Biscayne Bay
Where the Cuban gentlemen sleep all day
I went searching for the song
You used to sing to me
Katy lies
You could see it in her eyes
But imagine my surprise
When I saw you

Are you with me Doctor Wu
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew
She is lovely yes she's sly
And you're an ordinary guy
Has she finally got to you
Can you hear me Doctor