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Message started by Starbuck on Aug 21st, 2008 at 1:06pm

Title: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Starbuck on Aug 21st, 2008 at 1:06pm
so mccain doesn't know how many houses he owns? man...don't you fucking hate it when that happens?! gawd...what a headache!

moonie, can you corroborate this?


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WASHINGTON - Days after he cracked that being rich in the U.S. meant earning at least $5 million a year, Republican presidential candidate John McCain acknowledged that he wasn't sure how many houses he and his wealthy wife actually own.
 
"I think — I'll have my staff get to you," McCain responded to a question posed by Politico, according to a story Thursday on the publication's Web site. "It's condominiums where — I'll have them get to you."

Later, the McCain campaign told Politico that McCain and his wife, Cindy, have at least four in three states — Arizona, California and Virginia. Newsweek recently estimated the two owned at least seven properties.

Democratic candidate Barack Obama used the remark to jab at McCain for his views on the U.S. economy. Campaigning in Chester, Va., Obama told voters, "I guess if you think being rich means you've got to make $5 million and if you don't know how many houses you have, it's not surprising you might think the economy is fundamentally strong."

On the campaign trail, McCain doesn't refer to his wife's wealth, estimated by some at $100 million and based on her late father's Arizona beer distributorship.

Obama's campaign has been trying to make the McCains' wealth more widely known to blunt criticism that Obama is an elitist out of touch with ordinary Americans.

Obama and his wife own one house, the family home in Chicago, his campaign said. They bought it in 2005 for $1.65 million after getting advice from Chicago businessman Antonin "Tony" Rezko, an Obama friend and contributor who was convicted in June on more than a dozen felonies in a corruption scandal. The case had no connection to Obama, and Obama has said it was a mistake to work with Rezko on buying the house.

In response to Obama's criticism Thursday, McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers asked: "Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people 'cling' to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who's in touch with regular Americans?"

In the 2004 campaign, Republicans tried to use wealth as a dig against Democratic candidate John Kerry even though President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were multimillionaires themselves. In 2005, Kerry reported a net worth between $165 million and $235 million, most of it controlled by his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry.

According to her 2006 tax returns, Cindy McCain had a total income of $6 million. She has not released her 2007 returns, which she files separately from her husband. McCain's tax returns showed a total income of $405,409 in 2007.

In a forum last week with the Rev. Rick Warren, McCain was asked to define the word "rich" and to give a figure. After promoting his tax policies, McCain said: "I think if you are just talking about income, how about $5 million?" The audience laughed, and he added: "But seriously, I don't think you can — I don't think seriously that — the point is that I'm trying to make here, seriously — and I'm sure that comment will be distorted — but the point is that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues."

Obama, asked the same question at the forum, said those making $250,000 and higher are in the top 3 to 4 percent and "doing well." Obama and his wife, Michelle, reported making $4.2 million in 2007.


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Starbuck on Aug 21st, 2008 at 1:32pm
moonie?


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by mojoman on Aug 21st, 2008 at 1:37pm
get off my lawn!!!!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 21st, 2008 at 1:44pm
this ain't bringing voodoopug back.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 2:26pm
McCain has alzheimers? Veep Lieberman, again? Romney giving tips on eating pussy? Brazil volleyball team sexiest lesbians ever?

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:45pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy



Joe Strummer

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Starbuck on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:01pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy


riffy!

latest polls have indicated the following:

-obama up 10 percentage pts in MN! mccain must choose pawlenty or lose the state.
-the yankees will be watching the playoffs whilst sitting on their overpaid collective patookasses this fall, while the twins are glory bound for the playoffs.
-medicated haze's latest single, "superstar", will be debuted on WRAT's night show next fryday
-the august heat has given pdog a rash on his texass!

please confirm or deny....

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:08pm

Starbuck wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:01pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy


riffy!

latest polls have indicated the following:

-obama up 10 percentage pts in MN! mccain must choose pawlenty or lose the state.
-the yankees will be watching the playoffs whilst sitting on their overpaid collective patookasses this fall, while the twins are glory bound for the playoffs.
-medicated haze's latest single, "superstar", will be debuted on WRAT's night show next fryday
-the august heat has given pdog a rash on his texass!

please confirm or deny....



How did this Rezko guy help? Did he give them a tour of homes, did he pick out the house, did he hand someone cash? I gotta know... Now that I have one home, I want more, and i want help do it, and I don't care how I get them, b/c once i'm rich i'm crushing everyone....
p.s. bucky, your fluffing services needded in the couch aisle.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 21st, 2008 at 6:36pm

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:08pm:

Starbuck wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:01pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy


riffy!

latest polls have indicated the following:

-obama up 10 percentage pts in MN! mccain must choose pawlenty or lose the state.
-the yankees will be watching the playoffs whilst sitting on their overpaid collective patookasses this fall, while the twins are glory bound for the playoffs.
-medicated haze's latest single, "superstar", will be debuted on WRAT's night show next fryday
-the august heat has given pdog a rash on his texass!

please confirm or deny....



How did this Rezko guy help? Did he give them a tour of homes, did he pick out the house, did he hand someone cash? I gotta know... Now that I have one home, I want more, and i want help do it, and I don't care how I get them, b/c once i'm rich i'm crushing everyone....
p.s. bucky, your fluffing services needded in the couch aisle.



Tony Rezko arranged the purchase of the house for The One and His wife. The One got a $300,000.00 break on the price of the house provided He pay full price for the adjacent lot. The One did not want the adjacent lot so convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko came to the assitance of The One. The Convict bought the lot to facilitate the house deal for The One. This all happened while Tony Rezko (The Convct) was under federal indictment for charges ranging from  wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, and attempted extortion. The Convict has since been sentenced to five years. The One got the house though! Oh, plus, The One helped get The Convict over 14 million in federal subsidies for his slum lord operation.


Meanwhile The One's brother lives in a ten foot by ten foot shack in Africa. Hell, at least The One could have let His brother live on the adjacent lot that The Convict can no longer use!



Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 7:17pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 6:36pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:08pm:

Starbuck wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:01pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy


riffy!

latest polls have indicated the following:

-obama up 10 percentage pts in MN! mccain must choose pawlenty or lose the state.
-the yankees will be watching the playoffs whilst sitting on their overpaid collective patookasses this fall, while the twins are glory bound for the playoffs.
-medicated haze's latest single, "superstar", will be debuted on WRAT's night show next fryday
-the august heat has given pdog a rash on his texass!

please confirm or deny....



How did this Rezko guy help? Did he give them a tour of homes, did he pick out the house, did he hand someone cash? I gotta know... Now that I have one home, I want more, and i want help do it, and I don't care how I get them, b/c once i'm rich i'm crushing everyone....
p.s. bucky, your fluffing services needded in the couch aisle.



Tony Rezko arranged the purchase of the house for The One and His wife. The One got a $300,000.00 break on the price of the house provided He pay full price for the adjacent lot. The One did not want the adjacent lot so convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko came to the assitance of The One. The Convict bought the lot to facilitate the house deal for The One. This all happened while Tony Rezko (The Convct) was under federal indictment for charges ranging from  wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, and attempted extortion. The Convict has since been sentenced to five years. The One got the house though! Oh, plus, The One helped get The Convict over 14 million in federal subsidies for his slum lord operation.


Meanwhile The One's brother lives in a ten foot by ten foot shack in Africa. Hell, at least The One could have let His brother live on the adjacent lot that The Convict can no longer use!



Riffy


I'm taking on you on face value, since, like you said this isn't front page news. however, you need to keep in mind, what politicians aren't in some way associated with scumbags, before or after the fact.
Part of the face value, is you've never blinked an eye at the people in industries, like enron, who helped get Bush in office... How is this different? Oh yea... you only hold Democrats accountable...
Joe Strummer!!!!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 21st, 2008 at 7:45pm

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 7:17pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 6:36pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:08pm:

Starbuck wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 5:01pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 4:12pm:
I wonder how many of McCain's houses he bought with the help of convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko? I wonder if the media will ever probe into the very shady dealings to buy said house through slum lord convicted felon Tony Rezko? I wonder why the media never asked John Kerry how many houses he has?


Obama is so fucking toast it's not funny. As he should be. Fuckin' Marxist bastard.



Riffy


riffy!

latest polls have indicated the following:

-obama up 10 percentage pts in MN! mccain must choose pawlenty or lose the state.
-the yankees will be watching the playoffs whilst sitting on their overpaid collective patookasses this fall, while the twins are glory bound for the playoffs.
-medicated haze's latest single, "superstar", will be debuted on WRAT's night show next fryday
-the august heat has given pdog a rash on his texass!

please confirm or deny....



How did this Rezko guy help? Did he give them a tour of homes, did he pick out the house, did he hand someone cash? I gotta know... Now that I have one home, I want more, and i want help do it, and I don't care how I get them, b/c once i'm rich i'm crushing everyone....
p.s. bucky, your fluffing services needded in the couch aisle.



Tony Rezko arranged the purchase of the house for The One and His wife. The One got a $300,000.00 break on the price of the house provided He pay full price for the adjacent lot. The One did not want the adjacent lot so convicted slum lord felon Tony Rezko came to the assitance of The One. The Convict bought the lot to facilitate the house deal for The One. This all happened while Tony Rezko (The Convct) was under federal indictment for charges ranging from  wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, and attempted extortion. The Convict has since been sentenced to five years. The One got the house though! Oh, plus, The One helped get The Convict over 14 million in federal subsidies for his slum lord operation.


Meanwhile The One's brother lives in a ten foot by ten foot shack in Africa. Hell, at least The One could have let His brother live on the adjacent lot that The Convict can no longer use!



Riffy


I'm taking on you on face value, since, like you said this isn't front page news. however, you need to keep in mind, what politicians aren't in some way associated with scumbags, before or after the fact.
Part of the face value, is you've never blinked an eye at the people in industries, like enron, who helped get Bush in office... How is this different? Oh yea... you only hold Democrats accountable...
Joe Strummer!!!!

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I hold Rebuplicans accountable too! Big time! When a Republican is caught doing something shadey they are immediatley called on the carpet for it. Witness the way Larry Craig got zero support from his fellow Repub cronies after the "Wide Stance" episode. Same goes for Mark Foley. Fuck 'em! They're out! Trent Lott was forced out of his leadership position for a joke that was perceived as racially motivated. It wasn't, but even the hint of scandal usually is the death knell in the Republican party. Dems ,on the other hand, circle the wagons and defend the lowliest of scumbags! Witness the way William Jefferson, he of the $10,000.00 in his freezer, has managed to hold onto his position! Look at the way Clinton was defended! Had Bubba been a Republican he would have been tossed out on his ass at the first whiff of scandal involving an intern and a cigar. Those are just facts! All of McCain's houses were bought above board, and perfectly legally. It's mearly a case of class warfare that Democrats have been playing for decades now.

As per Enron. Why is it never mentioned that Clinton was a huge supporter of Enron as well? Why is it never mentioned that Ken Lay spent more days and nights in the White House when Clinton was POTUS?!


The Rezko/Obama conection is all 100% true and can be verified by many sources including trial transcripts. The funny thing is that the media dosen't seem to want to talk too much about this story. Just like they have ignored so many other stories that would kill any chance for The One to win.


Seven Time covers so far for The One in less than a year!! Six Newsweek covers!! McCain? Two Time covers. One Newsweek cover! Remember though, media bias is just a myth!! LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!LOL!



Riffy



Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 8:53pm
Your feelings towards the Clintons are consistent. That I like...
Is McCain's relationship to the long ago, forgotten Keating S&L scandal, less severe, than this slum lord? I've yet to hear of anyone involved in real eastate/property management/developement who has morals or doesn't break laws.
Am I hearing you right, this guy bought a lot, that was part of a purchase that got another property for someONE else at a discount? People do deals like this together all the time, who don't even ever meet face to face. I'm not saying these guys weren't, they may be swapping wives... But, I don't see how this is some huge scandal. You're treating this with the same contempt one should have for people like Mark Foley... I always thought Dems were bigger racists too... The ones who scream foul for blacks and freak when a black family moves in on their block...
I'm either missing something or you're doing the I heard it on the AM radio, that pisses people off about Mexicans ect, on this Revko guy, doesn't criticize Bush and has you convinced Democrats are somehow different than Republicans, in that they aren't Americans and hate America... They all hate America!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Fiji Joe on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:27pm
McCain isn't old and confused.  He's just a fucking retard.  He couldn't answer how many houses he has because he didn't contribute a single penny to purchase them.  He hasn't got a job in his life on his own merits.  Well, except for that time when he was "shave boy" for the North Vietnam Porn Company.  And even then he took way too long to get his work done.  And he wants to be our latex salesman?  

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:32pm

Fiji Joe wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:27pm:
McCain isn't old and confused.  He's just a fucking retard.  He couldn't answer how many houses he has because he didn't contribute a single penny to purchase them.  He hasn't got a job in his life on his own merits.  Well, except for that time when he was "shave boy" for the North Vietnam Porn Company.  And even then he took way too long to get his work done.  And he wants to be our latex salesman?  

funny Seinfeld reference.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:37pm

Fiji Joe wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:27pm:
McCain isn't old and confused.  He's just a fucking retard.  He couldn't answer how many houses he has because he didn't contribute a single penny to purchase them.  He hasn't got a job in his life on his own merits.  Well, except for that time when he was "shave boy" for the North Vietnam Porn Company.  And even then he took way too long to get his work done.  And he wants to be our latex salesman?  



I thought Bush was the retard... he must be a mongoloid!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Fiji Joe on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:43pm

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:37pm:

Fiji Joe wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:27pm:
McCain isn't old and confused.  He's just a fucking retard.  He couldn't answer how many houses he has because he didn't contribute a single penny to purchase them.  He hasn't got a job in his life on his own merits.  Well, except for that time when he was "shave boy" for the North Vietnam Porn Company.  And even then he took way too long to get his work done.  And he wants to be our latex salesman?  



I thought Bush was the retard... he must be a mongoloid!


If Bush is the retard, that would make McCain the guy who lost to the retard...The only thing worse than that would be being the guy who lost to the black man...Shades of Gerry Cooney...Shades of Shirley Hemphill


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Wild Bill on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:59pm
My sister has three houses and she's just a nomal rich person.  I can see how McCain could get cornfused.











Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Nasty Habits on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:25am

Fiji Joe wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:43pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:37pm:

Fiji Joe wrote on Aug 21st, 2008 at 9:27pm:
McCain isn't old and confused.  He's just a fucking retard.  He couldn't answer how many houses he has because he didn't contribute a single penny to purchase them.  He hasn't got a job in his life on his own merits.  Well, except for that time when he was "shave boy" for the North Vietnam Porn Company.  And even then he took way too long to get his work done.  And he wants to be our latex salesman?  



I thought Bush was the retard... he must be a mongoloid!


If Bush is the retard, that would make McCain the guy who lost to the retard...





Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:02am
I want to jump into this.

So many of the people I talk to (disgruntled Hillary supporters) are NOT voting at all.

Too many people have lost their lives to secure my right to vote. Therefore, I refuse to abstain. Hell, write in someone.

I don't care for either of them but one of them will get my vote and it's likely going to be McCain. Lesser of two evils, but WE HAVE TO VOTE!!!!

Any thoughts on this issue????

LJ.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Nasty Habits on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:15am

LadyJane wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:02am:
I want to jump into this.

So many of the people I talk to (disgruntled Hillary supporters) are NOT voting at all.

Too many people have lost their lives to secure my right to vote. Therefore, I refuse to abstain. Hell, write in someone.

I don't care for either of them but one of them will get my vote and it's likely going to be McCain. Lesser of two evils, but WE HAVE TO VOTE!!!!

Any thoughts on this issue????

LJ.


I am amazed at how both candidates seem to have gone out of their way to uninspire me for this particular turn of the wheel.  It is shaping up to be a dreary, dreary fall.  I must admit, I have considered abstaining in November.  

Seriously, a farce, and a dull farce at that.  If this is bread and circuses, the bread is moldy (and stale)(and Wonder) and the circus is two dead elephants, a masturbating monkey, and the clown is asleep in the third row.  


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Nellcote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:17am
Every citizen of the US has an obligation to vote.
Vote Early-Vote Often!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:20am
I can see myself in the voting booth, going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until I finally pull out a coin and toss it in the air.

WORST CHOICES EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LJ.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:00am
" can see myself in the voting booth, going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until I finally pull out a coin and toss it in the air. "



Obama needs Hillary Clinton ( .. and Bill ) more than EVER !!!!!




Please , Obama , pick Hillary as VEEP !!!



" Keep Hope alive RonnieCakes !!! "



J " Snuggles " FLY !!!! ™


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:06am

Joey wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:00am:
" can see myself in the voting booth, going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until I finally pull out a coin and toss it in the air. "



Obama needs Hillary Clinton ( .. and Bill ) more than EVER !!!!!




Please , Obama , pick Hillary as VEEP !!!



" Keep Hope alive RonnieCakes !!! "



J " Snuggles " FLY !!!! ™


Not sure about that Joseph.
Yes...it would secure the Demcrats BUT Conservative Republicans LOVE nothing more than to rally AGAINST the Clintons.

Hillary as VEEP would energize BOTH lethargic campaigns, imo.

LJ.



Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Starbuck on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:07am

LadyJane wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:20am:
I can see myself in the voting booth, going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until I finally pull out a coin and toss it in the air.

WORST CHOICES EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LJ.


these are hardly the worst choices ever.

bush kerry...now that was bad!

and let's not forget harding cox in 20...talk about a goddamned stinker!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:08am


< ------ Hillary for VEEP !!!!!!!



Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:24am
"bush kerry...now that was bad!"

My hatred for Dubya overshadowed ANY difficulty in casting my vote for Frankenkerry.

LJ.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:26am
" My hatred for Dubya overshadowed ANY difficulty in casting my vote for Frankenkerry. "

!!!!!!






Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by nankerphelge on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:35am
While no fan of McCain, I just cannot possibly vote for a man with essentially no qualifications other than Hollywood and the mainstream media think they have found a sellable candidate to the masses.  

That at least a few of said media have flat out admitted to the Obama bias whether it be lib on lib (the nastiest type of porn) or right vs. left.

Exhibits 1 and 2

http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Du4c47X5ASw8

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/08/18/washington-post-admits-proobama-bias.php

There are others - whether admitted or not - such as the NY Time's recent refusal to print McCain's editorial as it stood (ie his opinion) but offer to print a revised copy if it matched Obama's piece (to which McCain was responding), the Time Mag covers, the late-night talk show hoost joke boycott on Obama because there is nothing funny really to joke about, which itself is quite a laugh!  How about Obama's gaffe du jour about his uncle liberating Jews in the concentration camps -- that's pretty funny.  Or what about his Memorial Day speech where he saw a few of the vets in the crowd.  I find the fact that he did not understand one of our nation's most important holidays quite a giggle.  There are so many, and yet.....silence from the mainstream.  His PR team doesn't air that.

But aside from the media crafting of a candidate, he has no published record of what he has ever accomplished.
Prior to his election as US Senator, most of which he has campaigned for President and voted overwhelmingly as "present" at votes which means he took no position, what has he done and what does he stand for - can't really point to a voting record.

Okay, what about his work in Chicago -- what is his record there?
What do we know about it?
Not much really.
I punched "Obama's Illinois voting record" into Google and found these two articles.

The first states it is Pro-Obama - which made me laugh!
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/obamas-voting-record-in-the-illinois-state-senate/

The second is a bit more critical and eye opening.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18967

I would think people that are voting for someone would want to know which one is more accurate, but the media would rather focus on his magic carpet ride around the world.

What else has Obama led?

Well, he has an interesting issue bubbling with respect to his association and relationship with Bill Ayers, an admitted former domestic terrorist.  Obama was chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation, of which Ayers was founder.  

The details of this relationship are out there Scully -- they are locked up in the University of Chicago where boxes and boxes and boxes of records of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge are kept - including documents relating to Obama's work.  Problem is, the guy that was first told he could see them, was later told he could not.  The entire story is quite fascinating and is described in gory detail in that bastion of mainstream news - the National Review.  
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgwZTVmN2QyNzk2MmUxMzA5OTg0ODZlM2Y2OGI0NDM=&w=MA==

Big left media has steered clear of this one.  My god, we can't interrupt the love-in with facts.

What else do we know about the man?
Rezko is still festering.
And for decades, he was a member of a church run by a racist.
How he managed to miss that is absolutely stunning on the issue of the man's judgment.

Add to that his continued change in most every position he has taken in this race is a testiment to the man's inability to make and stick with a principled, reasoned decision.

As much as I dislike McCain both personally as well as his policies, I can see a record of what he has done.
Obama is just empty.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:49am
Very well said, my Sweet Va residin',  fellow Stonesian lushy friend, Nanky.  :booze  :weed

As much as I fear the bolt of lightening that may hit me when my Father (RIP) sees me pull the GOP lever, I just cannot vote for the fraud Obama. He's done NOTHING, imo. Oh that's right. He's a rock star.

Geraldine Ferraro was on Hannity and Colmes last night and she put it best, "You have no idea how many of my Democratic friends are now watching Fox News as it's the only place where you can find ANY REAL information on Barack Obama".

LJ.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:51am
" Geraldine Ferraro was on Hannity and Colmes last night and she put it best, "You have no idea how many of my Democratic friends are now watching Fox News as it's the only place where you can find ANY REAL information on Barack Obama".   "


FUNNY !!!!!!


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:01am

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:35am:
What else has Obama led?

Well, he has an interesting issue bubbling with respect to his association and relationship with Bill Ayers, an admitted former domestic terrorist.  Obama was chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation, of which Ayers was founder.  

The details of this relationship are out there Scully -- they are locked up in the University of Chicago where boxes and boxes and boxes of records of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge are kept - including documents relating to Obama's work.  Problem is, the guy that was first told he could see them, was later told he could not.  The entire story is quite fascinating and is described in gory detail in that bastion of mainstream news - the National Review.  
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgwZTVmN2QyNzk2MmUxMzA5OTg0ODZlM2Y2OGI0NDM=&w=MA==

Big left media has steered clear of this one.  My god, we can't interrupt the love in with facts.

What else do we know about the man?
Rezko is still festering.
And for decades, he was a member of a church run by a racist.
How he managed to miss that is absolutely stunning on the issue of the man's judgment.

Add to that his continued change in most every position he has taken in this race is a testiment to the man's inability to make and stick with a principled, reasoned decision.

As much as I dislike McCain both personally as well as his policies, I can see a record of what he has done.
Obama is just empty.


I'm telling ya Nanky that Annenberg story is huge!! It's massive, and the media? Where are they on it? They are deliberatly ignoring it!!! I don't want to hear any more lying liberal tell me that there is no liberal news bias!! It has become so blatantly obvious it's laughable, and I would laugh about it if the stakes weren't so high. This man is a goddamned disaster. ANYONE THAT WOULD EVEN CONSIDER VOTING FOR OBAMA WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS ABOUT HIM IS A FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!


He has been soooo prepackaged and propped up by the mastabatory media it's pathetic.

Look at these tools that love to slam Fox News. These same idiots hate Fox because Fox has the unmittigated gall to actually try and get to the bottem of Obama's massive faults. They would happily ignore all the FACTS about Barry just because they have some insane idiotic hatered of Bush. The idiocy on the left is stunning! They are so stupid that they can't even see the truth, or more than likely, just happily ignore it.


Obama's acquaintences are a huge concern!!! This insane head fake crap about, "You can't judge a man by his acquaintences! That's guilt by association!" You're damned straight it is! He's guilty as sin!!! He is friends with racists, felons, terrorists, and many other less than trustworthy people.


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:08am
I smell a dream ticket.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:11am
Riffy, don't forget Obama's ties with El Rukn that that the goddam media never talks about.  And don't forget that you heard about it from me first.  I don't want you running around taking credit for anything.  I know more about the El Rukns than any white man still alive.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:13am

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:11am:
Riffy, don't forget Obama's ties with El Rukn that that the goddam media never talks about.  And don't forget that you heard about it from me first.  I don't want you running around taking credit for anything.  I know more about the El Rukns than any white man still alive.

but can you take the rock to the hole?

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:28am

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:11am:
Riffy, don't forget Obama's ties with El Rukn that that the goddam media never talks about.  And don't forget that you heard about it from me first.  I don't want you running around taking credit for anything.  I know more about the El Rukns than any white man still alive.



I wonder is the left leaning Obama cock sucking media would be steering clear of McCain's acqaitences if they included a member of the KKK, a mob boss, or a bomb throwing terrorist. What if McCain was associated with say an abortion clinic bombing/Olympic Eric Rudolph? Think the media would happily ignore that?


Well, that's just what they are doing with regards to Barry's friends!!! It's disgusting! It's also painfully obvious. The media is just keeping their fingers crossed that nobody holds them accountable for journalistic malpractice. They are so in the tank for Obama that they should be on his payroll.


Oh, and then there's this. In the years 2004-2007 McCain donated 48% of his income to charity. Obama? 1%. He's so worried about the little guy! LOL!

Wake up liberals! You are about to destroy the Democrat Party for decades because of this idiot!!


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:36am
Riffy...CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!! you are going to have a coronary.

Many Many members of my former party (I am an Independent now) are fast becoming DeMoCain's!!

I NEVER believed you guys and your Dirty Liberal Media bias stuff. I was blind but now see it clearly.

LJ.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by nankerphelge on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:39am
Personally, I think the major media outlets admit the bias because they are proud of it.

Almost mockingly.

Yet they continue to watch their ratings slide.

Newspaper circulation down to the point they are letting go of entire newsroom staffs.

Liberal butt jockey Bill Maher deems Americans too dumb to be governed.

All plays out of the liberal playbook -- must be tough being so "elite," "enlightened," and "tolerant"

What was that amazingly insulting thing that giant BLOWHARD FPM said as he left here in his estrogen-laced hissy fit?

Something about conservatives holding their opinions just to piss off liberals?

Buncha idiots, all of them....


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:43am

LadyJane wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:36am:
Riffy...CALM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!! you are going to have a coronary.

Many Many members of my former party (I am an Independent now) are fast becoming DeMoCain's!!

I NEVER believed you guys and your Dirty Liberal Media bias stuff. I was blind but now see it clearly.

LJ.


I'm not nearly as worked up over this as it may appear LJ. However, I am flat out stunned that anyone in their right mind would consider voting for this clown. He is in so far over his head that it would be laughable if the stakes weren't so high. Imagine if this assclown were running against Reagan!!!! He would be laughed out of the race for even attempting to match up against the Gipper. He would be loose all 50 states! Or, in Obama speak, he would loose all 57 states!! ROTFLMAO!!


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:50am
More Barry idiocy on display! This is too good! How can the candidate for a major political party be this dumb?!


Riffy

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2UzMjJkMWZiODBmYTRlZDY2NDc0ZWJhMmY1NTM5NWU=


Obama, Fan of Chinese Ports, Trains, and Airports

Obama, yesterday: "Everybody's watching what's going on in Beijing right now with the Olympics , Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now, which means if you are a corporation deciding where to do business, you're starting to think, 'Beijing looks like a pretty good option.'"

Ed and Hugh object, with the latter noting Obama "ignores how those structures were assembled, the source and conditions of the labor, the lack of pollution controls in Beijing and throughout China, the many complaints that Chinese infrastructure outside the Olympics zone remains shoddy, the recent record of Chinese manufacturing scandals, including the heparin fiasco which killed many Americans, and of course the catastrophe brought about by Chinese building standards in the region rocked by the recent earthquake."

But beyond that, let's look at Obama's examples of Chinese excellence...

"Their ports..."

Reuters, July 11: "Severe power shortages across China, especially in the manufacturing hub and export engine of Guangdong, are expected to add further pressure on exports in the second half of the year."

"Their train systems..."

CNN, January 28: In the southern city of Guangzhou, as many as 500,000 train passengers were stranded the past few days when a power failure in neighboring Hunan province crippled the regular train services, local officials said. About 100,000 passengers packed the square in front of the train station while others found shelter in schools and other public buildings while waiting for their trains.

"Their airports..."

Australia's ABC News, July 29, 2008: "Scores of Chinese air passengers have smashed computers and desks and clashed with police after a night stranded at an airport without accommodation, state media said... Frustration at mysterious delays, diversions and cancellations have at times boiled over into violence at Chinese airports as passengers try to storm grounded aircraft and police are brought in to keep the peace. There have also been cases in which passengers, after delayed arrivals, have refused to get off the planes in protest."

... "are vastly the superior to us now."

Yes, their power outages, crowds at train stations, and outbreaks of air rage are vastly superior to ours.


08/22 11:29 AM


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by nankerphelge on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:55am
That's not funny Riffy.
No material for Leno there...

You are right though.

That is why the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party is so steamed - they at least had a candidate with arguably the best overall experience (not to mention management team) for the White House.   Oh wait, there is Joe Biden (snicker snicker - god I hope he gets the Obama nod, that will be hours of entertainment).

The Clintonistas know damn well that Obama is an empty suit.
And they know damn well that under the scrutiny of the watchful conservtaive media (where's that damn fairness doctrine when ya need it) the truth will come out.  

That convention is gonna be a fun one!
I bet the place implodes and sinks deep into the planet's core like a giant liberal China Syndrome (complete with greenhouse gases to warm the atmosphere)....

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:58am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:13am:

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:11am:
Riffy, don't forget Obama's ties with El Rukn that that the goddam media never talks about.  And don't forget that you heard about it from me first.  I don't want you running around taking credit for anything.  I know more about the El Rukns than any white man still alive.

but can you take the rock to the hole?

I'm still all shaken up over the Wariner situation.  I spent most of yesterday drinking at work, throwing paper around the office.  Not good.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:01pm

nankerphelge wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 11:55am:
That's not funny Riffy.
No material for Leno there...

You are right though.

That is why the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party is so steamed - they at least had a candidate with arguably the best overall experience (not to mention management team) for the White House.   Oh wait, there is Joe Biden (snicker snicker - god I hope he gets the Obama nod, that will be hours of entertainment).

The Clintonistas know damn well that Obama is an empty suit.
And they know damn well that under the scrutiny of the watchful conservtaive media (where's that damn fairness doctrine when ya need it) the truth will come out.  

That convention is gonna be a fun one!
I bet the place implodes and sinks deep into the planet's core like a giant liberal China Syndrome (complete with greenhouse gases to warm the atmosphere)....


Did ya see that Obama's peeps never even vetted Cankles?!?! Holy shit is that gonna cause an uproar!

I will say right here and now. McCain is our next president. It won't be close. I just hope that he starts rethinking some of his own idiotic ideas, like immigration, McCain/ Feingold, etc.


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by LadyJane on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:04pm
"That is why the Clinton wing of the Democrat Party is so steamed - they at least had a candidate with arguably the best overall experience (not to mention management team) for the White House.   Oh wait, there is Joe Biden (snicker snicker - god I hope he gets the Obama nod, that will be hours of entertainment).

The Clintonistas know damn well that Obama is an empty suit.
And they know damn well that under the scrutiny of the watchful conservtaive media (where's that damn fairness doctrine when ya need it) the truth will come out."

150% correct.
Which brings me back to my original point.
Howe the hell do I get all of my Hillary supporting friends to NOT sit home and pout?????
Although New York is pretty much a lost cause.

Wonder if Pretty Pony Edwards will be welcome at the Convention??? Another phony.

LJ.


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by nankerphelge on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:04pm
Well the polls seem to be bearing out a shift in both positives and negatives for Obama.
McCain has been effective in getting his messages out (finally) and he absolutely stuck his entire leg up Obama's ass in the debate last week.

(of course the media says it wasn't really a debate now, it was a pre-debate discussion)

The Russian invasion and occupation of Georgia provided even more evidence of the difference in experience, character and judgment of the two men.

74 days right?

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:19pm
Riffy/Moonie 2008.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Nasty Habits on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:33pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:19pm:
Riffy/Moonie 2008.



http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa8/drfilth867411/img_1921.jpg?t=1219426350



Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Nellcote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 12:51pm
Here's your answer on Billary....


Hillary gets stiffed
By: Mike Allen
August 22, 2008 12:38 PM EST

There’s one Democrat who would seem to have little or no chance of being picked by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to be his running mate – his former opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

But it’s not for the reason you think.

Obama has often said, most recently on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on July 27, that Clinton “would be on anybody’s short list.”

But apparently not his.

“She was never vetted,” a Democratic official reported. “She was not asked for a single piece of paper. She and Senator Obama have never had a single conversation about it. How would he know if she’d take it?”

The official also said Clinton never met with Obama’s vetting team of Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy.

And the official said she was never asked for medical records or for any financial 2008 information about her or former President Bill Clinton. The last information the couple has disclosed about taxes and financial holdings was for 2007.

The Clintons also were not asked about donors to the William J. Clinton Presidential Library.

“This would be the biggest leap of faith ever,” the official said. “She’s waiting for the text message like everyone else.”

An Obama aide said "absolutely exhaustive research was done on her over the course of the 16 month primary. She was researched more closely than any candidate in history."

Politico’s Alexander Burns contributed to this report.

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=EB0D720F-18FE-70B2-A89836AC470A50AD

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 1:38pm
" There’s one Democrat who would seem to have little or no chance of being picked by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to be his running mate – his former opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

But it’s not for the reason you think.

Obama has often said, most recently on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on July 27, that Clinton “would be on anybody’s short list.”

But apparently not his.

“She was never vetted,” a Democratic official reported. “She was not asked for a single piece of paper. She and Senator Obama have never had a single conversation about it. How would he know if she’d take it?”

The official also said Clinton never met with Obama’s vetting team of Eric Holder and Caroline Kennedy.

And the official said she was never asked for medical records or for any financial 2008 information about her or former President Bill Clinton. The last information the couple has disclosed about taxes and financial holdings was for 2007.

The Clintons also were not asked about donors to the William J. Clinton Presidential Library.

“This would be the biggest leap of faith ever,” the official said. “She’s waiting for the text message like everyone else.”

An Obama aide said "absolutely exhaustive research was done on her over the course of the 16 month primary. She was researched more closely than any candidate in history."



He can not win unless he picks Hillary ( See : LBJ , circa 1960 -- Ol' Lyin' Down had the cattle votin' out in Texas during the November election that year )

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 1:59pm
Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:19pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "

!!!!!!!


Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:20pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "





Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:21pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "




Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:32pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 1:59pm:
Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back.


Herpes, Jb and the Couch... Which will come back soonest?

Herpes!!!

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:33pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "




Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:36pm
" Herpes, Jb and the Couch... Which will come back soonest? "


!!!!






Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:37pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "




Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 2:39pm
" Shit, Hillary could bring the couch back "




Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:06pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy


Joe Strummer

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:12pm

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:06pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy


Joe Strummer



Joe Strummer wasn't runiing for POTUS, and if he was I would never have voted for him. I liked his music, plus he was a nice enough guy when I met him, but his politics were born out of his life in London. Liberalism is one thing. I can't find any validity in it, but I don't find it too dangerous. Marxism on the hand........google Saul Alinsky. Obama was a member of a Saul Alinsky inspired action group. Their message? Marxism.


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by robpop on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:15pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy






Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:19pm

robpop wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:15pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy





LOL! If only!




Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:26pm
Here's George Walker Bush III's comprehensive illegal immigration plan.  Turn the country's economy into such a Fat (Big Fat), sweltering pisshole that they all the Meskins go running back home seeking prosperity.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,409221,00.html

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:38pm

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:12pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:06pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy


Joe Strummer



Joe Strummer wasn't runiing for POTUS, and if he was I would never have voted for him. I liked his music, plus he was a nice enough guy when I met him, but his politics were born out of his life in London. Liberalism is one thing. I can't find any validity in it, but I don't find it too dangerous. Marxism on the hand........google Saul Alinsky. Obama was a member of a Saul Alinsky inspired action group. Their message? Marxism.


Riffy


People who live in London? Born out of... What...? You lost me. Do you know why i've been putting Strummer name as replies to you? It's b/c I can only imagine how he'd reply to you. He opposed everything you are about politically.

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:51pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:26pm:
Here's George Walker Bush III's comprehensive illegal immigration plan.  Turn the country's economy into such a Fat (Big Fat), sweltering pisshole that they all the Meskins go running back home seeking prosperity.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,409221,00.html


Big Fat Postin'

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Riffhard on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:52pm

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:38pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:12pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:06pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy


Joe Strummer



Joe Strummer wasn't runiing for POTUS, and if he was I would never have voted for him. I liked his music, plus he was a nice enough guy when I met him, but his politics were born out of his life in London. Liberalism is one thing. I can't find any validity in it, but I don't find it too dangerous. Marxism on the hand........google Saul Alinsky. Obama was a member of a Saul Alinsky inspired action group. Their message? Marxism.


Riffy


People who live in London? Born out of... What...? You lost me. Do you know why i've been putting Strummer name as replies to you? It's b/c I can only imagine how he'd reply to you. He opposed everything you are about politically.



Strummer's music was directly influenced by his upbringing in London of the early to mid 1970's. That's what I mean. As for his politics I don't care about his political leanings. I just dig his music.

I was a liberal for a long long time, pdog. I just woke up and realized that liberalism is based more on "feel good platitudes" than it is on any concrete results. I mean look at the race relations that the liberals have long complained about. They only pay it lip service. How many race hustlers can you point to that conservatives support? None! The same could never be said of liberals! They prop up people like Sharpton and Jackson. These guys have a made a career off people's suffering, and their hands are always out looking for more, or shaking down companies to get more. The irony is that liberal policies are directly to blame for almost every problem that blacks face today! Give 'em enough to keep them voting for you, but never enough to become self sufficient. This has led to generation after generation of inner city blacks that have come to know the federal government as daddy. It's a co-dependancy that can be laid directly at the feet of liberal idiocy.

What happens when a minority makes it big that is not a liberal? Just ask Uncle Colin, Uncle Clarence, or Aunt Condoleeza. Blacks that don't talk the liberal talk and walk the liberal walk are castigated as sell outs! I would strongly suggest that you view the linked video from Thomas Sowell. He explains this very well, and he should know. He's blacjk, and he's successful. Guess what Al Sharpton calls him? Well, here's a hint. Mr. Sowell's first name is Thomas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GqDe6zN_mk&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&resnum=0&q=Thomas%20Sowell&um=1&ie


Liberalism is a lie. Conservatives donate way, way, way more money to charities than do liberals. Why? Because liberals love to talk about giving, but like most everything else about liberals it's mainly just to feel good about themselves. For example in the last five years McCain has donated over 28% of his salary to charity. Obama? 3%!!!!! <-----------FACT!

Oh, yeah and here's the proof about the whole charity thing.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html


Riffy

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Pdog on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:27am

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 10:52pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 9:38pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:12pm:

Pdog wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 8:06pm:

Riffhard wrote on Aug 22nd, 2008 at 7:44pm:
Is he a Marxist? Yes! He is a Marxist!







Riffy


Joe Strummer



Joe Strummer wasn't runiing for POTUS, and if he was I would never have voted for him. I liked his music, plus he was a nice enough guy when I met him, but his politics were born out of his life in London. Liberalism is one thing. I can't find any validity in it, but I don't find it too dangerous. Marxism on the hand........google Saul Alinsky. Obama was a member of a Saul Alinsky inspired action group. Their message? Marxism.


Riffy


People who live in London? Born out of... What...? You lost me. Do you know why i've been putting Strummer name as replies to you? It's b/c I can only imagine how he'd reply to you. He opposed everything you are about politically.



Strummer's music was directly influenced by his upbringing in London of the early to mid 1970's. That's what I mean. As for his politics I don't care about his political leanings. I just dig his music.

I was a liberal for a long long time, pdog. I just woke up and realized that liberalism is based more on "feel good platitudes" than it is on any concrete results. I mean look at the race relations that the liberals have long complained about. They only pay it lip service. How many race hustlers can you point to that conservatives support? None! The same could never be said of liberals! They prop up people like Sharpton and Jackson. These guys have a made a career off people's suffering, and their hands are always out looking for more, or shaking down companies to get more. The irony is that liberal policies are directly to blame for almost every problem that blacks face today! Give 'em enough to keep them voting for you, but never enough to become self sufficient. This has led to generation after generation of inner city blacks that have come to know the federal government as daddy. It's a co-dependancy that can be laid directly at the feet of liberal idiocy.

What happens when a minority makes it big that is not a liberal? Just ask Uncle Colin, Uncle Clarence, or Aunt Condoleeza. Blacks that don't talk the liberal talk and walk the liberal walk are castigated as sell outs! I would strongly suggest that you view the linked video from Thomas Sowell. He explains this very well, and he should know. He's blacjk, and he's successful. Guess what Al Sharpton calls him? Well, here's a hint. Mr. Sowell's first name is Thomas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GqDe6zN_mk&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&resnum=0&q=Thomas%20Sowell&um=1&ie


Liberalism is a lie. Conservatives donate way, way, way more money to charities than do liberals. Why? Because liberals love to talk about giving, but like most everything else about liberals it's mainly just to feel good about themselves. For example in the last five years McCain has donated over 28% of his salary to charity. Obama? 3%!!!!! <-----------FACT!

Oh, yeah and here's the proof about the whole charity thing.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html


Riffy


So now it's about blacks... people who were property and denied the right to vote until 40 years ago... You had alot of people doing feel good liberal act, to help, tons of people to cash in always around those programs... You also had massive amounts, of Republicans doing everything in their power to keep blacks segregated. What's your point? That the man who want to be the Republican nominee, voted against MLK having a recognized birthday.
You def/. have the O'Reilly/Hannity race thing going on...
That charity thing is interesting, doesn't name the charities donated to... Or the time actually being of service and getting dirty. And once we see the names of the charities, can we look at their books? It's write off anyway...
It's really funn you mention the red state charieies. The ones that are usully church run, and they are usually for profit with very high payrolls. 75% overhead, for a charity that is going to convince a teen she can't have an abortion.
I get the feeling, you think the other side is out to destroy America. Both sides pretty much blow, the  only difference is Republicnas values towards race, and war and education have always favored you. Seems you, and millions of others, think some shift is coming, and these angry american hating commies are going to take over. I've seen you throw total bullshit numbers as lies around before. There's great energy put inot making people feel scared and hare and be righteous over the other side. It works to, you get people hating and prejudging each other. Good people too, all because some Jack ass like Sean Hannity got picked on by black kids when he was 10.
Your really the free spokesperson for very rich powerful people who stand to loose free and easy money when Obama becomes president. And these people will stop at nothing, to stop Obamam from doing what they've been doing, spending americans money. It's been real easy fleecing the USa with all the privitzation set up by Bush. You get them to privatize, sell/rent what the industry needs, supply them, rent land and equipment, sometime you just own the company doing the work, and then you sell the product back at a high cost, that they paid you to produce. and nothing gets done half the time.
They did it to the point of paying people to pretent they were sellling plutonium in Iraq. Thety spent money, to just amke up a lie for war. And put great energy attacking the patriotism of good americans. Let Obama get a house cheaper, let some old commies club thrive with memebers from all walks of life. They need to do this, they are up against people who started a war in order to bring fast food and lattes to mesopatamia, at a few million dollars a day.
Joe Strummer, Blacks, Terror... oh me

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Starbuck on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:31am
riffy?

why don't just use the web to surf for porn like the rest of us?

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:49am
Sean Hannity sure gits her pussy wet rubbin them tighty whities up her ass

Title: Re: McCain?? McMoonie???
Post by glencar on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 1:04am

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Aug 23rd, 2008 at 12:49am:
Sean Hannity sure gits hillary's pussy wet rubbin them tighty whities up her ass

You sick bastard!

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