Well it has been reported that The Rolling Stones will search, or re-negotiate a record contract, with the possibility of a tour deal to coincide or be some how included with the contract after the Shine A Light promotions were finished. Needless to say they are finished now.

-I am assuming they are talking about this right now or are starting to move all the way in that direction. If so, I am assuming they will have a contract in place by September and will officially begin the writing/recording process around the same time.  


Any thought on this?


Ian

It would be great news if true but if it was in progress somehow I think we might have heard something. Surely Mick will take the lead and report to the other 3 if and when there is an offer to consider.Based on sales I doubt they are a "hot" commodity in todays market.In fact they may forego a deal beyond a one off to avoid comparisons with other star performers long term deals.Live Nation I'm sure would love to scoop them and Cohl can no doubt make that happen.Really though it may take until later this year for them even to decide if they want to do anything regarding a new cd or even a mini tour.But surely as they see how this board as been hijacked by useless political debates they'll come to their senses soon and see how badly we need them to continue!

I tend to think that Keith will (if it happens) take the lead. Wasn't it Keith who got them their contract with Virgin? I thought Virgin took on the Winos first album and then it led into the Stones.  [smiley=tongue.gif]

Ian Billen wrote on Jun 4^th, 2008 at 8:26pm:

Well it has been reported that The Rolling Stones will search, or re-negotiate a record contract, with the possibility of a tour deal to coincide or be some how included with the contract after the Shine A Light promotions were finished. Needless to say they are finished now. -I am assuming they are talking about this right now or are starting to move all the way in that direction. If so, I am assuming they will have a contract in place by September and will officially begin the writing/recording process around the same time.   Any thought on this? Ian

I'd imagine moves have been afoot since before SAL came out - although its not like theres any rush.

I dont think theres a chance in hell that they'll stay with EMI. Theyve been absolutely useless in selling Stones product in the last few years, are dropping artists left right and centre as they're in a financial mess - plus the Stones have NEVER renewed a record contract.

I also think its going to be very unlikely any record label is going to offer them anything more than a short term contract when taking into account their age and their lack of productivity in the last two decades. That, plus the fact that the days of big record contracts are pretty much over.

Their main selling point with Virgin in 1991 was their back catalogue. Theres only so many times you can repackage that however. I'm not convinced theres much mileage in their post 1970 catalogue unless a new label can find a new way of rehashing it - maybe with unreleased material etc. Its certainly the only way I'd be persuaded to buy that stuff again.

The Stones major source of revenue now is in ticket sales. Which is why I expect any future record contract to be tied in with that in the way Madonna and one or two other acts have done with Live Nation.

They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.

Some Guy wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 11:10am:

They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.

i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition.
With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction.

no?

Egon wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 11:42am:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am: They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve. i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition. With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction. no?

funny...
Rare Licks??

" i thought we were 1st gonna get Rarities I, the extra special limited edition.
With extra rare bonus material AND a dance remix of Satisfaction. "


How about a dance remix of Indian Girl ?!


Now THAT would be something special .

Joey go ahead and head home early today.

" I'd imagine moves have been afoot since before SAL came out - although its not like theres any rush.

I dont think theres a chance in hell that they'll stay with EMI. Theyve been absolutely useless in selling Stones product in the last few years, are dropping artists left right and centre as they're in a financial mess - plus the Stones have NEVER renewed a record contract.

I also think its going to be very unlikely any record label is going to offer them anything more than a short term contract when taking into account their age and their lack of productivity in the last two decades. That, plus the fact that the days of big record contracts are pretty much over.

Their main selling point with Virgin in 1991 was their back catalogue. Theres only so many times you can repackage that however. I'm not convinced theres much mileage in their post 1970 catalogue unless a new label can find a new way of rehashing it - maybe with unreleased material etc. Its certainly the only way I'd be persuaded to buy that stuff again.

The Stones major source of revenue now is in ticket sales. Which is why I expect any future record contract to be tied in with that in the way Madonna and one or two other acts have done with Live Nation.  "


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Some Guy wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 11:10am:

They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve.

If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead.

" If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead "


Christ  , that is what they call ,  ...........     "   Brazen Head Postin '   "




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Well mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono.

Gazza wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 4:23pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:10am: They always got that Rarities Volume II up their sleeve. If so, they can remove it from their sleeve and insert it up their arse instead.

all up above the rim.

Jumping Jack wrote on Jun 5^th, 2008 at 5:00pm:

Well mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono.

Correct

" mick will certainly squeeze Cohl for more than what he is paying the other hos in his stable including Madona and Bono "


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If they go to Wal-Mart, after the E*gl*s - I'm retiring.

I cant see another tour. I think there are too many factors that could pose serious risks to a financial windfall.

1. Economy - The Yanks are stuffed. Their dollar is diving. People are losing their homes. Iraq is sapping the life out of everything and everyone. There is not a A-class porn star on the horizon. Things are bad!
2. Fuel - The absolute killer at the moment. The extra costs would be so massive, that ticket prices would have to go through the roof and again, that leads to the economy question and if people can afford (or are willing) to part with big bucks for hearing the same fucking songs they only just heard a couple of years ago.
3. Nothing to promote - There is no new album coming up. There will be nothing again i reckon. And as sales of ABB in the U.S. show, no one there wants a new cd. Whats the point anyway? They'll play no frigging songs off it. And, as people they are living in the streets, with only their flag and a gun for comfort, buying a lame ass Stones cd of new music is way down the list. And again, people mourn for a leading porn star since Jenna retired. Sadness is all around.
4. Too old - I dont think they could handle a big tour. I really dont. And they have few new fans. I dont think the Stones are too old for a 3 month U.S. tour, but i think the fan base is too old to give a shit and fork out upwards of maybe $600 for a ticket.
5. Ticket prices - All linked to the above reasons, this would HAVE to be the most expensive show ever. The band simply would not accept a lesser take home fee. They just wouldnt. They aint doing this for our benefit, are they? It's not the right time in the current economic climate to mount a tour. Unless they cut back on the crewk and i cant see them giving up their robe holders and pillow fluffers. Plus, U2 are due to start up soon, so if there's 1 major expense some one is prepared to outlay, i think they would win.

Plus, the world needs a new superstar of porn real bad! THAT takes priority i feel.

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As part of his many "change" promises Barack Obama has stated the cure for the American economy is a huge Stones stadium tour with a set playlist of 16 songs and tickets averaging $300.This is the only specific strategy to date from his campaign.

I dunno, yes alot of ppl in america wont wana buy tickets, but some might, and they could do a short midsized theatre tour

also shien a light did well both the movie and esp the soundtrack, which reached no2 or something in the UK, so they can still sell, and the reason they sold so well? the promotion, shine a light had brillaint promotion, mustve cost millions, so if they did that with even a mediocre 25th or watever album tehy could sell well, i cant recall the promotion for ABB was it big? suppose they did have the tour to raise awarness

anyway, i think a tour is always on the cards, esp if they pull the "1930s aged female movie star" thing and call it their farewell tour - like cher, shes callin it a farewell concert, think shes only doin like 3 probly, dunno, but they shud do that another 3 times and be serious about the last one as theyll be like 71 average, then they can settle down and just do wat les paul does walk to the local bar and play guitar for a couple hours every night

and keep in mind, the problem with your main point about the economy - though a valid one (and if you wanna know about living in shit, live in the UK gordon browns gonna tax tax soon! lol) have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live


HJW

U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now.

homesickjameswilliamson wrote on Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:32am:

have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live HJW

Dylan does not and never has charged "astronomical amounts of money" for shows in the UK (and unlike Neil Young & Tom Waits (both of whom only play here once every few years) he isnt playing the UK this year anyway). His most recent UK shows last year had prices of £37.50 and £32.50. And there was a free priority ticket allocation for the 'hardcore' fans, so I got seats in the front 6 rows for the three arena shows I bought tickets for. It ended up even costing me less than what most fans paid for because I didnt have to get the tickets through ticketmaster.

Waits and Young charged high prices for shows in THEATRES. Its still cheaper than what the Stones and Madonna charge for nosebleeds in a stadium. (Young at Manchester Apollo - £65 and £75, I think. Waits in Edinburgh - £95 and £75.). Those venues hold 2,500 - 3,000 people.

Not everyone feels the need to push ticket prices through the roof or screw their fans with $100 presales (where the best tickets are siphoned off to brokers and overpriced travel companies). Springsteen and Prince being the obvious examples when it comes to artists who can fill large arenas or stadiums and who can make their shows very affordable.

Whether there is another tour, and at what scale, will determine if the Stones truly do it because they love to play live.--will a certain someone's ego allow for smaller venues/cheaper ticket prices?  With this economy, and judging from the few sell-outs last go-round, he better put that thing on a leash...

homesickjameswilliamson wrote on Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:32am:

and keep in mind, the problem with your main point about the economy - though a valid one (and if you wanna know about living in shit, live in the UK gordon browns gonna tax tax soon! lol) have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live HJW

Except a lot of the ticket sales from the last few tours were more than likely purchased on credit, and there is less of that to go around. As far as "favourite band" goes, a lot of the die hards have been shoved aside over the past decade and that's not who have been primarily filling the seats in recent years.

Ticket sales are way down in the U.S., even the Police who last year were among the top tours of all time are selling only a fraction of the seats this year.

Only Radiohead and a couple of country tours are filling venues to the brim. There are still successful tours but things are obviously on the wane across the board. Not really sure how $200-500 tickets would do in this climate by a band who has been almost perpetually on tour the last decade.

They could do it but would probably have to keep it in arenas and with less dates than the past few tours. Like 30-40 shows instead of 75 to keep demand up.

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6^th, 2008 at 8:58am:

U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now.

No name, no firm info, but a partial track list….

No Line On The Horizon” - Bono and Edge played this song for a USA Today writer during an in-the-car interview at the Sundance Film Festival. On hearing it, writer Anthony Breznican says “heavy distortion fills the car,” and later adds: “The song is rough, weaving between brutal guitar blasts underscoring the mellow title refrain.” Edge explains that the song “It came out of a new distortion box that my guitar tech got.”
Unknown Title - in the same interview with Anthony Breznican, Bono and Edge played a second song whose opening lyric is, “It’s six o’clock…”. Bono tells Breznican that numbers are significant in each of the new songs.
“If I Could Live My Life Again” - Bono says this song is “inspired by the great Argentinian poet Jorge Luis Borges.” Bono said he had just begun the song while speaking with author Michka Assayas in December, 2005. Their interview appears as the extra material in the paperback version of Bono in Conversation with Michka Assayas.
“Love Is All We Have Left” - a song Bono named during his May, 2006, trip to Africa as one that he had recently written. “It’s like an old Broadway tune. I thought it was a Frank Sinatra song,” Bono said.
“North Star,” a song from the How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sessions which included a guest organ appearance from Michael W. Smith. In this CCM article, Smith describes the song as a tribute to Johnny Cash.
“Mercy“, one of the last songs to get cut from How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, described in Blender magazine as “a six-and-a-half-minute outpouring of U2 at its most uninhibitedly U2-ish”
“Lead Me In The Way I Should Go” — a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in this February, 2003, interview with Bono in Grammy Magazine
“You Can’t Give Away Your Heart” - a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in SPIN magazine

luxury wrote on Jun 6^th, 2008 at 10:47am:

Whether there is another tour, and at what scale, will determine if the Stones truly do it because they love to play live.--will a certain someone's ego allow for smaller venues/cheaper ticket prices?  With this economy, and judging from the few sell-outs last go-round, he better put that thing on a leash...

this is true.

You could conceivablyhave the scenario that given the choice between having to downscale in case the demand isnt what it used to be or not playing at all, they choose the latter option.

An ultimatum like that doesnt tend to be much of an incentive for a band who always feel like they have to outdo (and outgross) everything that's gone before.

Some Guy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2008 at 11:20am:

“North Star,” a song from the How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sessions which included a guest organ appearance from Michael W. Smith. In this CCM article, Smith describes the song as a tribute to Johnny Cash.

Interesting if true, as the title is a direct lift from Bob Dylan's quote on the news of Cash's death - "Johnny was like the North Star".

Gazza wrote on Jun 6^th, 2008 at 10:21am:

homesickjameswilliamson wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 8:32am: have you noticed all or most ppl on tour are charging astronomical amounts of money, neil young, and tom waits and dylan for example, and they know they can do it too, and sure look at live nation paying $100m for madonna and $150m for jay-z, they know ppl will go to see them, u'no, ppl will work extra shifts or borrow money or steal just to see their favourite band or artist, esp if -like the stones - it could be the last time they see them live HJW Dylan does not and never has charged "astronomical amounts of money" for shows in the UK (and unlike Neil Young & Tom Waits (both of whom only play here once every few years) he isnt playing the UK this year anyway). His most recent UK shows last year had prices of £37.50 and £32.50. And there was a free priority ticket allocation for the 'hardcore' fans, so I got seats in the front 6 rows for the three arena shows I bought tickets for. It ended up even costing me less than what most fans paid for because I didnt have to get the tickets through ticketmaster. Waits and Young charged high prices for shows in THEATRES. Its still cheaper than what the Stones and Madonna charge for nosebleeds in a stadium. (Young at Manchester Apollo - £65 and £75, I think. Waits in Edinburgh - £95 and £75.). Those venues hold 2,500 - 3,000 people. Not everyone feels the need to push ticket prices through the roof or screw their fans with $100 presales (where the best tickets are siphoned off to brokers and overpriced travel companies). Springsteen and Prince being the obvious examples when it comes to artists who can fill large arenas or stadiums and who can make their shows very affordable.

I wasnt citing dylans ticket charges in the UK, i had read on - actualy i think it was the last incarnation of Rock's Off that he was charging like $150 somewhere in south america i think, thats were i meant, and i think it was that or higher in spain i think

but i get your point

Yes..his prices in Latin America earlier this year were pretty exorbitant, by his standards.

I think thats quite normal there for visiting acts now. Long way to travel, and they still have to get their 'guarantee', so its the fans who get it in the neck, which isnt really too pleasant when its in a country where average incomes are considerably lower than in America or western Europe.

Down here, we have absolutely no one in a the A grade league due to tour. Original Judas Priest line up is coming and thats about it. Our dollar is more or less on parity with the greenback, but our distance is a factor with high fuel costs. I doubt we'll get a major tour in the next 12 - 18 months. McCartney was rumoured, but he burnt alot of people off when he cancelled last time (citing the Bali bombing when in fact his ticket sales were way below expectations) and he'd cop some awful questions if he got here. But most Beatle fanatics are in old folks homes, or smashed hard by rising petrol, council rate increases, interest rate increases and rising fucking inflation, so i dont think a tour by that cardigan wearing ponce would be a success.

Unless the Stones tour America by train (or hybrid semi trailers with solar panels on the roof), then forget them going out again any time soon. I really think if they do anything, it will be next year and it will be a farewell tour. There just is no new stuff coming. Some people need to get that dream out of their head. It's not worth it for anyone. Keith is tapped out of any ideas. They have no deal. No sign of a deal. They have not hit a studio in 3 years. SAL took a bit of time to come through as well. That was supposed to be out mid last year. Dunno what the delay was. I hope SAL is their swansong. What else is there to do? The industry has evolved so much, that any new release would probably undersell ABB by 50%. That aint a good look, is it?

Another factor, apart from fuel, is insurance for a tour. With their ages and (possible) illnesses now a very real factor, insurance would go through the roof. This all leads to higher ticket prices, which leads to people whining about ticket prices (like 90% of this board) and less people attending.

I cant see why they just dont do a massive free show in NYC, or maybe Hyde Park as well, and say goodbye and release all the juicy old stuff we are really waiting for.

Do i want a new album??

Or some hidden gems and alternate versions & blu-ray release of L&G???

The latter, my international compadres. The latter.

I am sure they are starting to negotiate, or at least approach, or be approached with new deals.

You see, Mr. Mick Jagger knows The Rolling Stones record contract is up.

He will, and most likely has been looking over options and is about ready to make some moves.

He would never let them sit idle with no direction, with no contract, and no current lable  ...unless, and hopefully not he is looking into a solo effort and/or is  taking his early and mid 1980's outlook to The Stones future... but again I highly, highly doubt it. I do not think Mick will ever go to that extent again in dismissing The Stones.  

As far as a new solo album in itself for Mick seems unlikely at this point and time and I have heard nothing of such.

So you can believe Mick is on this and stuff is a brewing.

Ian

Some Guy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2008 at 11:20am:

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 8:58am: U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now. No name, no firm info, but a partial track list…. No Line On The Horizon” - Bono and Edge played this song for a USA Today writer during an in-the-car interview at the Sundance Film Festival. On hearing it, writer Anthony Breznican says “heavy distortion fills the car,” and later adds: “The song is rough, weaving between brutal guitar blasts underscoring the mellow title refrain.” Edge explains that the song “It came out of a new distortion box that my guitar tech got.” Unknown Title - in the same interview with Anthony Breznican, Bono and Edge played a second song whose opening lyric is, “It’s six o’clock…”. Bono tells Breznican that numbers are significant in each of the new songs. “If I Could Live My Life Again” - Bono says this song is “inspired by the great Argentinian poet Jorge Luis Borges.” Bono said he had just begun the song while speaking with author Michka Assayas in December, 2005. Their interview appears as the extra material in the paperback version of Bono in Conversation with Michka Assayas. “Love Is All We Have Left” - a song Bono named during his May, 2006, trip to Africa as one that he had recently written. “It’s like an old Broadway tune. I thought it was a Frank Sinatra song,” Bono said. “North Star,” a song from the How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sessions which included a guest organ appearance from Michael W. Smith. In this CCM article, Smith describes the song as a tribute to Johnny Cash. “Mercy“, one of the last songs to get cut from How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, described in Blender magazine as “a six-and-a-half-minute outpouring of U2 at its most uninhibitedly U2-ish” “Lead Me In The Way I Should Go” — a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in this February, 2003, interview with Bono in Grammy Magazine “You Can’t Give Away Your Heart” - a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in SPIN magazine

So its mostly left overs ala Tattoo You.?..U2 copies the Stones again!.What will they call it? Voodoo Poo?.lmaooo

Can we negotiate IanBillen off the board?

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corgi37 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2008 at 12:31am:

Down here, we have absolutely no one in a the A grade league due to tour. Original Judas Priest line up is coming and thats about it.

That would be even better than the Stones.

Okay flame away.

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 8^th, 2008 at 10:56am:

So its mostly left overs ala Tattoo You.?..U2 copies the Stones again!.What will they call it? Voodoo Poo?.lmaooo

Again? When have they done it before?

Some Guy wrote on Jun 7^th, 2008 at 11:20am:

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 8:58am: U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now. No name, no firm info, but a partial track list…. No Line On The Horizon” - Bono and Edge played this song for a USA Today writer during an in-the-car interview at the Sundance Film Festival. On hearing it, writer Anthony Breznican says “heavy distortion fills the car,” and later adds: “The song is rough, weaving between brutal guitar blasts underscoring the mellow title refrain.” Edge explains that the song “It came out of a new distortion box that my guitar tech got.” Unknown Title - in the same interview with Anthony Breznican, Bono and Edge played a second song whose opening lyric is, “It’s six o’clock…”. Bono tells Breznican that numbers are significant in each of the new songs. “If I Could Live My Life Again” - Bono says this song is “inspired by the great Argentinian poet Jorge Luis Borges.” Bono said he had just begun the song while speaking with author Michka Assayas in December, 2005. Their interview appears as the extra material in the paperback version of Bono in Conversation with Michka Assayas. “Love Is All We Have Left” - a song Bono named during his May, 2006, trip to Africa as one that he had recently written. “It’s like an old Broadway tune. I thought it was a Frank Sinatra song,” Bono said. “North Star,” a song from the How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sessions which included a guest organ appearance from Michael W. Smith. In this CCM article, Smith describes the song as a tribute to Johnny Cash. “Mercy“, one of the last songs to get cut from How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, described in Blender magazine as “a six-and-a-half-minute outpouring of U2 at its most uninhibitedly U2-ish” “Lead Me In The Way I Should Go” — a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in this February, 2003, interview with Bono in Grammy Magazine “You Can’t Give Away Your Heart” - a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in SPIN magazine

you will not be greeted...............

mojoman wrote on Jun 9^th, 2008 at 2:31pm:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 7th, 2008 at 11:20am: gimmekeef wrote on Jun 6th, 2008 at 8:58am: U2 have a new album ready to release and with no Zep or Stones could have the field to themelves and yet so far no tour announcement.With bands putting tickets on sale months ahead of time Im thinking the economics arent favorable in the US now. No name, no firm info, but a partial track list…. No Line On The Horizon” - Bono and Edge played this song for a USA Today writer during an in-the-car interview at the Sundance Film Festival. On hearing it, writer Anthony Breznican says “heavy distortion fills the car,” and later adds: “The song is rough, weaving between brutal guitar blasts underscoring the mellow title refrain.” Edge explains that the song “It came out of a new distortion box that my guitar tech got.” Unknown Title - in the same interview with Anthony Breznican, Bono and Edge played a second song whose opening lyric is, “It’s six o’clock…”. Bono tells Breznican that numbers are significant in each of the new songs. “If I Could Live My Life Again” - Bono says this song is “inspired by the great Argentinian poet Jorge Luis Borges.” Bono said he had just begun the song while speaking with author Michka Assayas in December, 2005. Their interview appears as the extra material in the paperback version of Bono in Conversation with Michka Assayas. “Love Is All We Have Left” - a song Bono named during his May, 2006, trip to Africa as one that he had recently written. “It’s like an old Broadway tune. I thought it was a Frank Sinatra song,” Bono said. “North Star,” a song from the How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sessions which included a guest organ appearance from Michael W. Smith. In this CCM article, Smith describes the song as a tribute to Johnny Cash. “Mercy“, one of the last songs to get cut from How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, described in Blender magazine as “a six-and-a-half-minute outpouring of U2 at its most uninhibitedly U2-ish” “Lead Me In The Way I Should Go” — a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in this February, 2003, interview with Bono in Grammy Magazine “You Can’t Give Away Your Heart” - a contender for Atomic Bomb first mentioned in SPIN magazine you will not be greeted...............

archaic reference lost on younger posters.

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Can we negotiate IanBillen off the board?

___________________________


Tut-Tut,

Go ahead and try it.  Ha! ...and you think Hillary fought forever.


Ian

Sign Ian to a multi year contract- money is no option.

Careful Some Guy..there are rumors Ian may be linked to a dog fighting ring in La Grange...hold that huge contract

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 10^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

Careful Some Guy..there are rumors Ian may be linked to a dog fighting ring in La Grange...hold that huge contract

Oh snap, oh no he ditn't!

" Down here, we have absolutely no one in a the A grade league due to tour. Original Judas Priest line up is coming and thats about it. Our dollar is more or less on parity with the greenback, but our distance is a factor with high fuel costs. I doubt we'll get a major tour in the next 12 - 18 months. McCartney was rumoured, but he burnt alot of people off when he cancelled last time (citing the Bali bombing when in fact his ticket sales were way below expectations) and he'd cop some awful questions if he got here. But most Beatle fanatics are in old folks homes, or smashed hard by rising petrol, council rate increases, interest rate increases and rising fucking inflation, so i dont think a tour by that cardigan wearing ponce would be a success. "

Corgi ....


Macca AND The Eagles will be touring this late summer / fall / winter   -- look for an Australian Date soon -- BEST MACCA YET !!!  .. UNFRIGGIN BELIEVABLE Eagles YET !!!!!  

According to Rolling Stone Magazine [ www.RollingStone.com ]  , more than 1/2 of The Eagles concert set is devoted to their new album ( over ten million copies sold in the United States alone    ..... )  . Corgi , the new Eagles disc is outstanding and is the finest piece of music I have heard since Tattoo You . Word .


Please see these cats and thank me later ....

I remain ..... forever and EVER ..... your Jacky !!!!

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Joey wrote on Jun 10^th, 2008 at 10:12am:

" Down here, we have absolutely no one in a the A grade league due to tour. Original Judas Priest line up is coming and thats about it. Our dollar is more or less on parity with the greenback, but our distance is a factor with high fuel costs. I doubt we'll get a major tour in the next 12 - 18 months. McCartney was rumoured, but he burnt alot of people off when he cancelled last time (citing the Bali bombing when in fact his ticket sales were way below expectations) and he'd cop some awful questions if he got here. But most Beatle fanatics are in old folks homes, or smashed hard by rising petrol, council rate increases, interest rate increases and rising fucking inflation, so i dont think a tour by that cardigan wearing ponce would be a success. " Corgi .... Macca AND The Eagles will be touring this late summer / fall / winter   -- look for an Australian Date soon -- BEST MACCA YET !!!  .. UNFRIGGIN BELIEVABLE Eagles YET !!!!!   According to Rolling Stone Magazine [ www.RollingStone.com ]  , more than 1/2 of The Eagles concert set is devoted to their new album ( over ten million copies sold in the United States alone    ..... )  . Corgi , the new Eagles disc is outstanding and is the finest piece of music I have heard since Tattoo You . Word . Please see these cats and thank me later .... I remain ..... forever and EVER ..... your Jacky !!!! www.EaglesBand.com http://www.rocksoff.org/h8-jagger-cannesfestival2008-07.JPG | | V JJJJJJJJJJJACKY ! ™

Metal Masters is thee tour of the year but it's just too heavy for Omaha.

Best Testament yet!!!!

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As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring.

" As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring  "



You raise an interesting point there my Stonesian Brother .


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I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

andrews27 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 9:16am:

As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring.

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Yes. I whole-heartedly agree. The group would never think about being in entertainment limbo with no deal as being The Rolling Stones (nor would their management either...and for good reason).

I don't think any of them would have that (maybe Woody would not quite care as much as the rest but still, the rest would never let this happen).


Ian

Sorry but I think you "think" about this stuff about 1000 times more than the Stones do.

" I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.  "

I hope you find the   "  Postin' gene  "  .  


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Joey wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 10:57am:

" As far as egos go. I think the Jagger-Richards variety is such that couldn't stand to be without a major label contract, so long as they continue touring  " You raise an interesting point there my Stonesian Brother . I too feel a sensate longing for the old days when an artiste' could .................................... ****** END TRANSMISSION ******* Stinkykins !

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LOL. Joey, what can I say. You bring a happiness to this board. Even when people argue your vibe is always there doin your thing when you post. There a few people in which nobody ever could have a problem or riff with. You, our good friend, are one of those people. It is a gift. Ya Can't EVER quit posting here. Oh yes, and by the way I want your attitude. May I borrow it? (and could you please throw in your bill-fold. You know, a little cash in pocket always helps the spirits..)

Ian  (you know how it goes... "I remember when it all began, I was just another Joey fan"...)

:)

The Eagles are amazingly popular here and their last 2 tours broke all sorts of records. Their cd's sell too!!

I can see the point of the Stones wanting a deal - but for new stuff? Or for the back catalogue.

And, is the catalogue worth much these days? I'd just about anyone who want THE BIG 4 already have them. I cant see 16 year old kids running down the store or ordering online to buy Emotional Rescue if they go to a new label. I'm sure the catalogue is worth something, but i dont know if a new cd would be.

UNLESS......

They some deal where they cop a few points less on a new cd, pay for recording, and give a new label some slice of the touring pie.

Which means, yet again, that Jagger and company would simply HAVE to make up a shortfall of profits from some one.

And that some one is you! :whydontcha

wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 8:19pm:

I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored.

SAL was a surprising exception.

Gazza wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:26am:

wrote on Jun 12th, 2008 at 8:19pm: I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert. Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored. SAL was a surprising exception.

This guitar overdubbing by the guitar techs - I wish someone could give a few examples. I'm by no means saying that it doesn't happen, but its very cleverly done if it is. Keith and Ronnie both have their own unique sound - especially Keith. The overdubs would have to be very subtle.

Joey wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 9:52pm:

" I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.  " I hope you find the   "  Postin' gene  "  .   { CA - RACK !!!! } Sniggles ! ™

The above post was overdubbed.

" LOL. Joey, what can I say. You bring a happiness to this board. Even when people argue your vibe is always there doin your thing when you post. There a few people in which nobody ever could have a problem or riff with. You, our good friend, are one of those people. It is a gift. Ya Can't EVER quit posting here. Oh yes, and by the way I want your attitude. May I borrow it? (and could you please throw in your bill-fold. You know, a little cash in pocket always helps the spirits..) "


Bless You Ian  ..... You are much loved by the Joey :

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Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 7:18am:

Gazza wrote on Jun 13th, 2008 at 6:26am: wrote on Jun 12th, 2008 at 8:19pm: I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert. Whilst it would be a good earner, I dont think there's a prayer of them doing that, unfortunately. The fact that they're getting guitar techs to overdub guitar parts onto official live DVDs (eg Biggest Bang) speaks volumes of their reluctance to let too much find its way into the public arena without being doctored. SAL was a surprising exception. This guitar overdubbing by the guitar techs - I wish someone could give a few examples. I'm by no means saying that it doesn't happen, but its very cleverly done if it is. Keith and Ronnie both have their own unique sound - especially Keith. The overdubs would have to be very subtle.

well, there's certainly guitar overdubs on the Austin DVD - its quite evident on watching and listening to the show.

My ears arent as finely tuned as that of some of you to enable me to discern who's playing what, but on the 'Biggest Bang' DVD credits, its clearly there - "additional recordings by Pierre de Beauport, Dave Rouze" - those guys are guitar techs.


"Four Flicks" was released on 11th November 2003. The Stones toured Europe from 4 June - 2 October 2003 and two of the shows on that tour (Twickenham 24/8 and Paris 11/7) were included on the DVD. I think its pretty much accepted that there was some post-production 'sweetening' done on some of the songs. Maybe Mathijs or someone with good ears can tell you on what songs. The Stones didnt have any known studio activity between the dates those shows took place and the end of the tour and there almost certainly wouldnt have been enough time after 7th October to have finished any overdubs prior to the release of the DVD, so that would suggest to me that if there was any additional recordings made, they werent done by the Stones.

After watching and listening to SAL in IMAX the playing was  so stunning and near perfect I cant help but think Keith and Ronnie did some post filming dubbing.

wrote on Jun 12^th, 2008 at 8:19pm:

I hope if they tour again that they do what the Who & other lesser acts have done & put out DVD's & CD's of each concert.

Except it's hard to think of them of "lesser" in the context that the shows are good enough to release "as is" when in the case of the Stones it often isn't.q

I was just listening to my Pixies 2004-2005 soundboards. What amazing fucking shows.

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 11:10am:

After watching and listening to SAL in IMAX the playing was  so stunning and near perfect I cant help but think Keith and Ronnie did some post filming dubbing.

Perfect? Stunning? Wha-what? They played fine, but far from perfect. I actually prefer it this way because it gives the show such a sloppy, garagey feel. ADTL, shattered, SMU, Satisfaction, and Brown Sugar were damn near perfect though, I'll give you that.

The only major qualm I have with the playing on SAL is the repetitiveness of Keith's leads.

Holden wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 1:31pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Jun 13th, 2008 at 11:10am: After watching and listening to SAL in IMAX the playing was  so stunning and near perfect I cant help but think Keith and Ronnie did some post filming dubbing. Perfect? Stunning? Wha-what? They played fine, but far from perfect. I actually prefer it this way because it gives the show such a sloppy, garagey feel. ADTL, shattered, SMU, Satisfaction, and Brown Sugar were damn near perfect though, I'll give you that. The only major qualm I have with the playing on SAL is the repetitiveness of Keith's leads.

In comparison to European leg of ABB and the boots I heard SAL was stunning in guitar work so much so I really dont believe it was a one off take.

yeah, I agree that the guitar work was a lot better than the majority of the last 2 ABB legs. It may have just been the setting. It's a lot easier to play and concentrate on the music when the whole band is so close and there aren't any distractions. Too bad there aren't any decent Beacon boots to compare to the movie.

Maybe no overdubs. That "point and sound" type of soundtrack can be misleading. Yet, maybe there was? I mean, the flick was supposed to be out last year and was shelved at the last minute.