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Paranoid Android Rocks Off Regular Offline The Rocks Off Ladies Rule You Bastards!! Posts: 6,338 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2012 at 11:45pm Slash piece by the newspaper owned by The Reverend Sun Myung Moon and the Church of the Unification... Not a well respected paper in the US or DC...however...they have they most up to date Housing foreclosure and car repo auctions listings for the DC / VA/ MD area every Wednesday.
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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,729 Dakar Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #2 - May 18^th, 2012 at 6:31am The author references that he has a you tube page featuring Stones guitar tutorials recently featured in Rolling Stone. Mel Belli, is this you? I liked the piece. The sidecar analogy worked, but calling Keith a parasite?
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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #3 - May 18^th, 2012 at 7:50am Yup, that's me. "Parasite" might be a little harsh, but the overall sentiment is nothing I haven't expressed around here for the last few years.
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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,729 Dakar Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #4 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:16am Kudos, in any case. Like I said, I like the piece a lot. I'm a journalist myself, but I don't get paid to write about the Stones or music at all, unfortunately.
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Reply #5 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:26am

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/17/mick-jagger-two-cheers-for-an-ag... Don't suck my cock

" Jagger will always stand as rock’s paradigmatic frontman in my book.

And he is not merely a “frontman.” Not by a long shot.

Mr. Jagger is hugely underrated as a songwriter in his own right. The catalog of Stones classics he wrote with little or no input from Mr. Richards — including “Brown Sugar,” “Sway,” “Moonlight Mile,” “Dead Flowers,” “Sister Morphine,” “Shine A Light,” almost the entirety of “Some Girls” and many more — is extensive and formidable. "

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FPM Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 697 Right here in the USA Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #6 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:30am Very good work, Mr. Belli. It's refreshing to read something about the Stones which is factually accurate, and which does NOT refer to anyone as a "wrinkly rocker".
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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #7 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:30am In order to be a parasite.....don't you need something of substance to feed off from?......Just sayin
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patioaintdry Rocks Off Regular Offline the pools in but the patio ain't dry Posts: 144 Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #8 - May 18^th, 2012 at 8:47am Mel Belli you have PM
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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #9 - May 18^th, 2012 at 9:08am gimmekeef wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 8:30am: In order to be a parasite.....don't you need something of substance to feed off from?......Just sayin I'm saying Mick is still ... substantial.
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Pdog Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 6,130 aTx Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #10 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:50am: Yup, that's me. "Parasite" might be a little harsh, but the overall sentiment is nothing I haven't expressed around here for the last few years. you're credentials are very substantial.... far to the right of myself, but still impressive.
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Reply #11 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:16am

Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

gimmekeef wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 8:30am:

In order to be a parasite.....don't you need something of substance to feed off from?......Just sayin

I'm saying Mick is still ... substantial.

Mel I meant Stones wise.....Keith could hardly be seen leaching off of Mick's solo endevours.....

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Reply #12 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:32am

gimmekeef wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 10:16am:

Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 9:08am:

gimmekeef wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 8:30am:

In order to be a parasite.....don't you need something of substance to feed off from?......Just sayin

I'm saying Mick is still ... substantial.

Mel I meant Stones wise.....Keith could hardly be seen leaching off of Mick's solo endevours.....

Yes, but I'm saying that Keith leeches off of Mick *within the Stones*.

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Reply #13 - May 18^th, 2012 at 10:35am

Pdog wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Yup, that's me. "Parasite" might be a little harsh, but the overall sentiment is nothing I haven't expressed around here for the last few years.

you're credentials are very substantial.... far to the right of myself, but still impressive.

Actually, I think you'd find our views on a lot of things -- empire, civil liberties, the need for a safety net -- are more simpatico than you might think. Conservatism is a house with many mansions. The current lot of mainstream GOPers are not the only game in town.

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Reply #14 - May 18^th, 2012 at 11:02am

Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Yup, that's me. "Parasite" might be a little harsh, but the overall sentiment is nothing I haven't expressed around here for the last few years.

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I really appreciate your journalistic talents. Very well done, chap. With that said, I would agree for a hard-core Stones fan to call Keith Richards a "parasite" is indeed a bit harsh. He had a rough time with his misses as you know. He took a horrible fall and had a slow recovery. He did manage to write a major book on his life, which in itself takes quite some time and work. He has been there at the Exile and Some Girls things.

We don't know how much he contributed to A Bigger Bang.. the theory in which it were all Micks songs is only that... a theory. Nobody knows but them and Don Was. In fact he mentioned writing a few songs on there and folks were suprised in thinking they were certainly Mick songs.

He has been the one to try and bring The Stones together this time out. He says he's got lots of material and demo's written. He says he gave them to Mick in hopes they could create a Stones project out of them.

Appreciating Jagger in your article was great. I liked reading it and your very much a literary and music devotee. I think many (your not the only one believe me) sell Keith far too short these days. As well, at times he really needed it, nobody cut him a "break". After all, for what it is we know of it, he's the one trying to wrangle them back together about now.

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Bingo Rocks Off Regular Offline Exiled from IORR Posts: 942 Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #15 - May 18^th, 2012 at 11:32am They're going crazy on this article over in IORR land. lol http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1612105
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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #16 - May 18^th, 2012 at 11:57am MEL BELLI ,HSHS CLASS OF 94?KNOW JOHN MACMANUS?THAT'S MY HOMEDOG.
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Reply #17 - May 18^th, 2012 at 11:58am

Ian Billen wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:02am:

Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 7:50am:

Yup, that's me. "Parasite" might be a little harsh, but the overall sentiment is nothing I haven't expressed around here for the last few years.

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I really appreciate your journalistic talents. Very well done, chap. With that said, I would agree for a hard-core Stones fan to call Keith Richards a "parasite" is indeed a bit harsh. He had a rough time with his misses as you know. He took a horrible fall and had a slow recovery. He did manage to write a major book on his life, which in itself takes quite some time and work. He has been there at the Exile and Some Girls things.

We don't know how much he contributed to A Bigger Bang.. the theory in which it were all Micks songs is only that... a theory. Nobody knows but them and Don Was. In fact he mentioned writing a few songs on there and folks were suprised in thinking they were certainly Mick songs.

He has been the one to try and bring The Stones together this time out. He says he's got lots of material and demo's written. He says he gave them to Mick in hopes they could create a Stones project out of them.

Appreciating Jagger in your article was great. I liked reading it and your very much a literary and music devotee. I think many (your not the only one believe me) sell Keith far too short these days. As well, at times he really needed it, nobody cut him a "break". After all, for what it is we know of it, he's the one trying to wrangle them back together about now.

Ian

I appreciate the kind words, Ian. ... I tried to account for Keith's injury; I argue that Keith's creative decline began before all that. As far as I can tell, the last time Keith was really, deeply involved in the writing/recording process was on "Bridges to Babylon," when he and Mick basically made parallel solo EPs.

Three of the four songs they did for "Forty Licks" were prefab Mick/Matt Clifford vehicles. We'll have to agree to disagree on this, but I think much the same was true of "A Bigger Bang."

Yes, Keith was "there" for the "Exile" and "Some Girls" reissue projects. My point was, Mick did most of the work! New lyrics, new melodies, new vocal tracks, etc. Sure, Keith said of the "Exile" stuff that he prefers not to mess with a masterpiece. But, per usual, Keith gets to play the "purist" while Mick does the heavy lifting.

Look: I love Keith as much as anyone here. He's my musical hero, and always will be. If he chose to do nothing but play blues or Hank Williams covers for the rest of his career, I'd be the first to lap it up. What I refuse to do is pretend I'm happy with toss-offs like "Losing My Touch" and "Infamy" every seven or eight years.

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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #18 - May 18^th, 2012 at 11:58am BILL PERKS wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:57am: MEL BELLI ,HSHS CLASS OF 94?KNOW JOHN MACMANUS?THAT'S MY HOMEDOG. Johnny Mac was a year behind me, I think. Good guy. Tell him I said hi!
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Reply #19 - May 18^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

Bingo wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

They're going crazy on this article over in IORR land. lol Oh no! not you again

http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1612105

Mel, they're lighting the torches and gathering up farm implements over there. Take cover! ( Tried to compliment your guitar playing for context but they weren't having it!)

I'm out of that thread! But it's just what they needed, something to divert them from Jagger's hair (or lack thereof) and Keith's ethnic origins. They love a ruckus.

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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #20 - May 18^th, 2012 at 12:14pm LOL, thanks. Comes with the territory.
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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #21 - May 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm WHO KNEW WE HAD AN INTELLECTUAL IN OUR MIDST?
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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #22 - May 18^th, 2012 at 12:22pm BILL PERKS wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm: WHO KNEW WE HAD AN INTELLECTUAL IN OUR MIDST? Now, that I take offense to
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Paranoid Android Rocks Off Regular Offline The Rocks Off Ladies Rule You Bastards!! Posts: 6,338 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #23 - May 18^th, 2012 at 1:12pm Bingo wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:32am: They're going crazy on this article over in IORR land. lol http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1612105 OMG!! That is hilarious!!!
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sweetcharmedlife Rocks Off Regular Offline Do the horrendous to that if you can Posts: 11,943 San Mateo Gender:	Re: Times Article about Mick and Keef Reply #24 - May 18^th, 2012 at 1:40pm Mel Belli wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:22pm: BILL PERKS wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:19pm: WHO KNEW WE HAD AN INTELLECTUAL IN OUR MIDST? Now, that I take offense to Compared to most of the people on IORR, Joey is considered an intellectual.
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