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Reply #3350 - Aug 26th, 2010 at 4:04pm
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Reply #3351 - Aug 26th, 2010 at 10:57pm
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Well the Darkness release must be good. Even the neanderthal's on Backstreets are (almost) all in agreement that this a treasure well beyond what was expected. To put in Stones terms. It's like they looked Exile in the eye and blew right on bye. That was clever
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The climax of a year of very exciting re-releases of some of my favourite albums - Exile. Station to Station. Plus the upcoming mono box set of the first eight Dylan albums.

I think this one is the re-release to end all re-releases. I never imagined it would be on this scale. Twenty one outtakes (which is some going, because he's already put about seven or eight of them on 'Tracks' in 1998) including several which have never even been heard of, let alone bootlegged. Documentary footage which was never even reported to exist before of the band recording the album, plus never seen rehearsal footage. The only DVD footage listed there thats previously circulated in any form are the five songs from Phoenix '78 (and most fans have only seen the 'Rosalita' footage, which was used as a sort of promo and was THE clip which made me a fan all those years ago when it was shown on the BBC in 1979)

And to top it all - a full length concert on DVD which ISN'T one of the many 1978 shows which have previously circulated. I dont think I've even heard an audio recording of that Houston show, let alone see a pro shot video of it.

And if its anything like the Winterland gig three days later, it'll be an absolute humdinger.

They took their time putting this together, but fuck me, they got it right. Any fan who complains about this being underwhelming needs shot.

Now whats going to be on the cards for 'The River' deluxe, which must surely be up next? He recorded about 80-100 songs for that album. Dare we up the stakes to 9 discs and 9 DVDs?
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Reply #3353 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 6:46am
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Amazing run of reissues this year indeed. I takes a shitload of cash to keep myself happy, but I just gotta have that big set of Darkness. I know it's gonna keep nagging if I buy the 2-disc set and leave it at that: I would end up buying the 6 disc set anyway and giving the 2-disc edition to a friend.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 6:40am:
The climax of a year of very exciting re-releases of some of my favourite albums - Exile. Station to Station. Plus the upcoming mono box set of the first eight Dylan albums.

I think this one is the re-release to end all re-releases. I never imagined it would be on this scale. Twenty one outtakes (which is some going, because he's already put about seven or eight of them on 'Tracks' in 1998) including several which have never even been heard of, let alone bootlegged. Documentary footage which was never even reported to exist before of the band recording the album, plus never seen rehearsal footage. The only DVD footage listed there thats previously circulated in any form are the five songs from Phoenix '78 (and most fans have only seen the 'Rosalita' footage, which was used as a sort of promo and was THE clip which made me a fan all those years ago when it was shown on the BBC in 1979)

And to top it all - a full length concert on DVD which ISN'T one of the many 1978 shows which have previously circulated. I dont think I've even heard an audio recording of that Houston show, let alone see a pro shot video of it.

And if its anything like the Winterland gig three days later, it'll be an absolute humdinger.

They took their time putting this together, but fuck me, they got it right. Any fan who complains about this being underwhelming needs shot.

Now whats going to be on the cards for 'The River' deluxe, which must surely be up next? He recorded about 80-100 songs for that album. Dare we up the stakes to 9 discs and 9 DVDs?

He needs to sneak in a tour before he tackles The River remaster Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Reply #3355 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 9:25am
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Really, really excited about this reissue.

It's somewhat awkward for me to admit, but I didn't really like "Darkness" for years. I thought—still do, to some extent—that it's a shitty recording. Drums are flat; guitars are tinny; etc. What really cracked it for me is when I heard those songs on the reunion tour. It was like the sky opened up, and the whole thing made sense...
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Reply #3356 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 5:02pm
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Badlands store are guessing around £60 as the retail price. Still unconfirmed.

They say it will be released in the following four formats :


Darkness On The Edge Of Town 3CD + 3DVD

Darkness On The Edge Of Town 3CD + 3Blu-Ray

The Promise 2CD (featuring the 21 unreleased songs)

The Promise 4LP (featuring the 21 unreleased songs)



Seems a bit odd that you cant buy 'just' the remastered CD though.
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Mel Belli wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 9:25am:
Really, really excited about this reissue.

It's somewhat awkward for me to admit, but I didn't really like "Darkness" for years. I thought—still do, to some extent—that it's a shitty recording. Drums are flat; guitars are tinny; etc. What really cracked it for me is when I heard those songs on the reunion tour. It was like the sky opened up, and the whole thing made sense...


Yes..was my least favorite..no take that back, Nebraska is...but as I've listened to the outtakes that have been out there from this time period....I am filled with high anticipation....   I see much money being spent with these oldie but goodies box sets.  Guess it will keep me occupied until a tour....
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Weird to read that not everyone digs this that much: after the obvious favorite Darkness is the album I spin the most. I'll agree that the recording could've been better, but that's a great collection of songs IMO. Same thing goes for The River: that album could use a good fresh remaster, I think.
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 10:57pm:
Well the Darkness release must be good. Even the neanderthal's on Backstreets are (almost) all in agreement that this a treasure well beyond what was expected. To put in Stones terms. It's like they looked Exile in the eye and blew right on bye. That was clever


Almost? In all honesty, any Springsteen fan who remains underwhelmed by this needs to have electrodes attached to their testicles.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:30pm:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 10:57pm:
Well the Darkness release must be good. Even the neanderthal's on Backstreets are (almost) all in agreement that this a treasure well beyond what was expected. To put in Stones terms. It's like they looked Exile in the eye and blew right on bye. That was clever


Almost? In all honesty, any Springsteen fan who remains underwhelmed by this needs to have electrodes attached to their testicles.

Come on Gazza. You know their's always someone who (thinks)they have a better idea.....And most of the people on that board probably already have electrodes attached to their testes. Shocked
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:43pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:30pm:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 10:57pm:
Well the Darkness release must be good. Even the neanderthal's on Backstreets are (almost) all in agreement that this a treasure well beyond what was expected. To put in Stones terms. It's like they looked Exile in the eye and blew right on bye. That was clever


Almost? In all honesty, any Springsteen fan who remains underwhelmed by this needs to have electrodes attached to their testicles.

Come on Gazza. You know their's always someone who (thinks)they have a better idea.....And most of the people on that board probably already have electrodes attached to their testes. Shocked



Dunno about that, but many of them seem to have bugs up their asses!
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Gazza wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 10:44am:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:43pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 7:30pm:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 10:57pm:
Well the Darkness release must be good. Even the neanderthal's on Backstreets are (almost) all in agreement that this a treasure well beyond what was expected. To put in Stones terms. It's like they looked Exile in the eye and blew right on bye. That was clever


Almost? In all honesty, any Springsteen fan who remains underwhelmed by this needs to have electrodes attached to their testicles.

Come on Gazza. You know their's always someone who (thinks)they have a better idea.....And most of the people on that board probably already have electrodes attached to their testes. Shocked



Dunno about that, but many of them seem to have bugs up their asses!

Yeah what's really funny is that they're offering a %10 discount on pre orders for Darkness. But you can still get it cheaper on Amazon.
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Springsteen Talks ‘Darkness’ With Festival Doc


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.Bruce Springsteen says he and the E Street Band were on a mission when they made his Darkness on the Edge of Town album 32 years ago.

Springsteen opens up about the career-altering album in the documentary “The Promise: The Making of Darkness on the Edge of Town,” which premieres Tuesday at the Toronto International Film Festival.

The film, which played Monday for press, features contemporary interviews with Springsteen and his band along with rehearsal and studio footage as they made the 1978 record, which he calls a “reckoning with the adult world” after the phenomenal success of his Born to Run album three years earlier.

.Before the premiere, Springsteen will discuss his music in a public chat with actor Edward Norton, who became friends with the rocker after they met at a concert about 10 years ago.

“That record, there’s no way to overstate how much that record was a part of my life,” Norton said in an interview. “I’ve seen the film, and it’s amazing to see him at that age going through the creative process on it. Any artist, I think, will appreciate the chance to see someone who is as great as he is at that age struggling and struggling and struggling to get things to where he hears them in his head.”

After its Toronto premiere, “The Promise” will air Oct. 7 on HBO, then will be included in a CD and DVD boxed set release of Darkness on the Edge of Town due in stores Nov. 16.

Directed by Thom Zimny, who made a similar making-of documentary about Born to Run, “The Promise” captures Springsteen in a burst of creativity after a three-year studio lapse, when he was unable to record amid a court fight with his former manager.

Springsteen says he wanted the album to reflect the “deep despair and resilience” he saw among the small towns where he grew up.

“One of the things that’s amazing to me is he’s considered this quintessential American working-class artist, yet so much of his work has challenged the idea that America lives up to its ideals in some ways,” Norton said. “He shows people and artists that you can live in a culture and place and love it and still question it, still challenge it.”

Unlike Born to Run – for which Springsteen wrote nine songs, eight of them appearing on the album – Darkness on the Edge of Town was honed into a 10-song cycle from about 70 tunes he wrote, according to his band mates. The songs included such castoffs as “Because the Night” and “Fire,” which became hits for Patti Smith and the Pointer Sisters.

Springsteen jokes that if a song did not work, he would pull out the fragments he liked and try them elsewhere, like taking car parts from one vehicle and sticking them into another to make it run. He shares failed lyrics for the album’s opening anthem, “Badlands,” and describes a version of the slow, meditative tale “Racing in the Streets” in which the narrator’s melancholy girl, who “cries herself to sleep at night,” was not even in the song.

Sound mixer Chuck Plotkin describes Springsteen’s poetic instructions for how the dissonant assault of “Adam Raised a Cain” should sound next to the album’s more melodic tunes. Springsteen told Plotkin to think of a movie showing two lovers having a picnic, when the scene abruptly cuts to a dead body. This song, Springsteen said, is that body.

The Darkness songs were leaner and angrier than those on “Born to Run,” advancing from the earlier album’s sense of youthful anarchy and escape to growing resignation to a “life of limitations and compromises,” Springsteen says.

“Born to Run and Darkness, they’re the beginning of the story,” Springsteen says. “I’m beginning to tell the story that I tell for most of the rest of my working life.”

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Springsteen Says 'Darkness' Marked Dawn Of Career


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.Bruce Springsteen figures his first three albums, including the classic "Born To Run," were a prequel to the rest of his career.

He really started to find a purposeful working life with his fourth record, 1978's Darkness on the Edge of Town, the subject of a documentary that had its world premiere Tuesday night at the Toronto International Film Festival.

After the enormous success of Born to Run three years earlier, Springsteen had been kept out of the studio because of a legal dispute with his former manager. When he finally began recording again with the E Street Band, a deluge of songs poured out, stories of anguish and doubt in an America mired in hard times and disillusioned after the Vietnam War.

On a personal front, Springsteen was struggling to preserve a connection with his working-class New Jersey roots amid his own good fortune.

"I decided that the key to that was maintaining a sense of myself, understanding that a part of my life had been mutated by my success," Springsteen said in a conversation with actor Edward Norton in front of a festival audience a few hours before "The Promise: The Making of Darkness on the Edge of Town" premiered. "There was a thrust of self-preservation more than anything else, more than a political conscience or a social conscience."


Directed by Thom Zimny, who made a similar making-of documentary about Born to Run, "The Promise" blends new interviews with Springsteen and his band mates with archival footage of the rehearsal and recording sessions for Darkness on the Edge of Town.

The documentary airs Oct. 7 on HBO, then will be included in a CD and DVD boxed set release of Darkness on the Edge of Town due in stores Nov. 16.

The set will include live shows on DVD from the Darkness era and two CDs of songs Springsteen recorded but left off the finished album, which includes such tunes as "Badlands," "Racing in the Street," "The Promised Land" and "Streets of Fire."

Band mates say in the documentary that Springsteen wrote about 70 songs that were considered for the album. During a year of recording, the band worked obsessively to hone them, only to have Springsteen set them aside and move on to something else.

"I'd work the band for three days on a piece of music, throw it out," then repeat the process, Springsteen said in the session with Norton, who became friends with the rocker after they met at a concert 11 years ago.

The album was meticulously carved out of a "big chunk of stone," reduced to a final lineup of songs that fit the brooding tone he had aimed for, Springsteen said.

"It was an angry record. I took the 10 toughest songs I had," Springsteen said.

At the start of their chat, Norton told Springsteen that fans had so embraced his songs that "I don't even know if they're yours anymore. People own them, and they've become part of the tapestry of their lives."

During their conversation, Springsteen talked about earlier musical innovators, from Elvis Presley to James Brown to Bob Dylan. He described how, as "creatures of the radio," he and the band had been steeped entirely in music, but that his influences widened in the mid-1970s to include authors such as James M. Cain, Jim Thompson and Flannery O'Connor, and filmmakers such as John Ford, Martin Scorsese and many film noir directors.

Springsteen said he and the band put themselves through hell making Darkness on the Edge of Town, working around-the-clock and forgoing any life outside the music.

"The way we did it was so hard that it often felt like we were doing it wrong," Springsteen said. But "we weren't doing it wrong. We were just doing it the only way we knew how."


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Rumors in Toronto he may play The Horseshoe Tavern tonight.
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 5:06pm:
Rumors in Toronto he may play The Horseshoe Tavern tonight.


Are you gonna make an appearance at rumored Tavern, Heart of Stone? Wink



Could Bruce Springsteen Play The Horseshoe Tonight?

Might the Boss grace Toronto music fans with one of his legendary, spontaneous club shows? The odds are long—but they're not nothing.

Rocker Jesse Malin is performing at the Horsehoe Tavern tonight. Springsteen's dropped in on Malin shows to play previously, and the 'Shoe's website has been keeping its fingers crossed for weeks that the stars could align, if only Bruce would stay in town:

Now this is the night [Springsteen] COULD show - We’re laying odds about twelve thousand to one, but if for some reason he ain’t jetting away back to New Jersey, anything is possible, I mean the fucking SPECIALS just played in Toronto, PAUL WELLER is doing JAM songs, GUIDED BY VOICES reformed, again - lol, I mean who knows what’s musically possible anymore, right?
Springsteen was here on Wednesday for TIFF's red carpet gala presentation of The Promise, as well as a Q&A session with Edward Norton. At the time, Horseshoe co-owner Jeff Cohen was cautious, posting on a Springsteen discussion board that "he could very well be going home any time later today, though our fringers [sic] are crossed his stays over one more night, because of the obvious."

Cohen—a diehard Boss fan—had largely dismissed the possibility of Springsteen dropping by; he assumed that the singer would hop on his private jet and fly back to New Jersey as soon as The Promise was over. But the Boss stayed: Springsteen attended a Sony party at Coco Lezzone, on College Street Wednesday afternoon (and posed for pictures!). Now, something Cohen dismissed as "a zillion to one shot" only a week ago has started to look like it might only be highly improbable.

Cohen told Torontoist in an email that he figures he'd drop the odds to as good as five hundred to one if he actually knew Bruce was staying overnight, too. But even then, he figures Springsteen might just want to hang at the bar and enjoy the respectful treatment of Toronto's music fans. (Cohen's official Vegas line on Springsteen being in his club and getting up on stage? Back up to five thousand to one.)

We left a message with the PR folks at Sony Music Canada, and while we haven't heard back from them, it's not like we expect them to say, "Oh sure, he'll be there," either.

If you're sitting at your computer, or even strolling down Queen Street reading this on your iPhone and thinking of running over, save yourself the trouble. "Luckily the show is sold out in advance," Cohen explains—it sold-out Monday—"and all the non-muzoids, those who perhaps don't understand our indie community can't get in...so we could at least assure Bruce of a visit here to be quite relaxed and peaceful."

But if you've got one of the $15 ducats in your hand? Prepare to sell it to someone at a ridiculously inflated price—tickets for the show are now going for upwards of $100 on Craigslist—or, just maybe, keep it and have a night you won't forget.

Additional reporting by Ashley Carter/Torontoist.
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UNDER THE RADAR IN TORONTO: DARKNESS BOX SNEAK PEAK
Last night's gala premiere of The Promise had red carpets, flashing cameras, and Springsteen himself as a Toronto International Film Festival main attraction. We'll have more on that in short order. But first, we report from a lower-profile event this afternoon that was no less astounding for any Bruce fan: a further lift of the lid of the forthcoming box, for an extended preview of The Promise: The Darkness on the Edge of Town Story. Daniel Joyaux reports for Backstreets.

Jon Landau gave a nice introduction to a theater of about 50 people assembled to hear snippets of the Darkness box set for the first time. Many of the press in attendance were international, and Landau made sure to stress how important the overseas market is to the Springsteen team. He specifically cited Barcelona, Milan, and Berlin as cities that they love playing and that often muster some of E Street's greatest performances. Landau said there is no current plan for another tour, but that it's "inevitable." (That was the quote, so I'm inclined to believe him. It appears that, despite some major theories to the contrary, we have not seen the last of the E Street Band on tour.) Landau also specifically called out to Australia and Japan: "We know you're out there, and we'll be back!"

For the preview, we were given eight full songs from the audio portion of the box set, and five songs from the video portion. Landau stressed that the two-CD collection of unreleased audio "really is the great lost Springsteen album. It's the album that would have come out between Born to Run and Darkness."



"Racing in the Street" (rock version) This cut has mostly the same lyrics (although the car was a '32 Ford instead of a '69 Chevy), but the music is radically different. The piano is much more up-tempo, it's flooded with harmonica, and sonically it has a similar feel to "The Promised Land." Danny's great organ melody remains intact, but here it's smothered with a guitar solo.

"Gotta Get that Feeling" Perhaps the most girl group-esque of any song in Bruce's catalogue, this features some great backing vocals (I think it must have been Stevie), and the whole vibe of the song evokes the Ronnettes. Considering how often Ronnie Spector and Bruce crossed paths in '76 and '77, I wondered if this song might have been inspired by Bruce's introduction to her.

"Outside Looking In" Seems obviously inspired by Buddy Holly, with a tempo that evokes "Peggy Sue." A fun song that provides a lot of insight into the range of what the Darkness sessions had to offer.

"Someday (We’ll Be Together)" At one point in the documentary, Bruce noted that Landau was a big gospel fan, and this song might have been written with him in mind. Churchy backing vocals by what sounds like a trio of ladies, and a drum sound that reminds me of the one Jimmy Iovine created with Tom Petty on songs like "Refugee." Also, there's a great guitar solo that sounds like it walked right out of a Sergio Leone spaghetti western.

"Because the Night" In the intro, Landau mentioned that Bruce threw a lot of these songs out when they were still works in progress, so a handful of them needed touching up, and even some finished lyrics (similar to what theStones just did with the Exile on Main Street bonus cuts they issued earlier this year). I wonder if this is one of those songs, because while listening, I really felt like the chorus sounded distinctly like current Bruce instead of '78 Bruce. Is it possible this song was handed off to Patti Smith when it didn't even have a chorus?

"Ain't Good Enough For You" My favorite of the songs previewed. For anyone that's always believed the E Street Band is the greatest bar band ever, this song is for you. Featuring a handclap chorus and plenty of whoa-oohhs in the backing vocals, this is Bruce at his most fun. A good R&B feel, and similar to the work Southside Johnny was doing at the time, this also features one of the most unusual lyric pieces I've ever heard from Bruce, name-dropping his then-engineer: "cool like Jimmy Iovine." Considering how famous Bruce is for creating characters within his songs, he's rarely referenced a real person, let alone a friend.

"Talk to Me" Extremely similar to the well-known version by Southside Johnny, this is, nonetheless, a delight to hear in its original E Street version (though I liked the impromptu Bruce & Stevie version in the documentary even better).

"The Promise" Every bit as good as its legend. While listening to this song, you really gain understanding that it's the missing link. It's the transitory song where the characters from Born to Run became the characters on Darkness. In many ways, this is the moment where young, romantic Bruce became Bruce Springsteen: the man. For those of you who have only heard the re-recorded version from '98, you’re in for a revelation.



"Badlands" & "Streets of Fire" These performances were both taken from a complete performance of the Darkness album the band did in December of '09 in Asbury Park especially for director Thom Zimny to use for this box set. No Patti, Soozie, or Nils on these songs, just the guys that originally recorded the album (and, of course, Charlie filling in for Danny). The band nailed them both, particularly "Streets of Fire," a song I'd never seen in concert. Bruce told a funny story when he addressed the crowd after the sneak peak. Following almost two full years of touring, he and the band went to go record this live version of the Darkness album — but Patti told him he had to be home for dinner by 7. So when he got to Asbury Park for the filming, he told Zimny that he only had time to do two run-throughs; luckily, one of them was more than good enough.

"Candy's Room" Live in the studio from the original sessions, with Bruce shirtless and sporting an amazing afro (looking very much like Brad Delp, lead singer of Boston — it's clear Bruce has been hiding photos of this era from public display). It's unclear what band members are on the session, but Stevie's on percussion ("Miami, lookin’ good!" Bruce shouted right before they began). The song is much slower than what we’re used to, and I enjoyed thinking of an alternate reality Darkness on the Edge of Town where "Candy's Room" was the slowest song on the album and "Racing in the Street" was one of its best rockers. The song is good, but it's so radically different that I found it disorienting. It'll take a few more listens to really decide what I think.

"The Promised Land" & "Prove it All Night" – Two live performances from ’78 (different shows, though), that make clear how good the tour was. "Promised Land" was great, but the real treat here is "Prove It." For anyone that has never heard this song live from '78, it might be the best part of the whole box set for you. The version of "Prove It" I've had on a '78 bootleg from Jersey has, over the years, become my go-to song to play for anyone wondering about the E Street Band in concert. With the long piano/guitar intro that builds the momentum, the song was stretched out to a ten-minute-plus epic that rivaled "Rosalita" in show-stopping intensity. It also showcases, to great effect, the guitar hero side of Bruce that always seems to take the back seat to Bruce the singer and Bruce the songwriter.

And with that pulse-pounding conclusion, which drew an enthusiastic applause from the small audience of press figures, Jon Landau thanked everyone for taking part in the 64-minute preview of the box set. It was a preview that ensured I'll have a long wait until November 16, but I'm ecstatic I got to take part.

Tune in to E Street Radio on Friday morning, when Daniel will be taking about the preview session with Dave Marsh on "Live From E Street Nation."
- September 15, 2010
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 5:16pm:
Heart Of Stone wrote on Sep 15th, 2010 at 5:06pm:
Rumors in Toronto he may play The Horseshoe Tavern tonight.


Are you gonna make an appearance at rumored Tavern, Heart of Stone? Wink



Could Bruce Springsteen Play The Horseshoe Tonight?

Might the Boss grace Toronto music fans with one of his legendary, spontaneous club shows? The odds are long—but they're not nothing.

Rocker Jesse Malin is performing at the Horsehoe Tavern tonight. Springsteen's dropped in on Malin shows to play previously, and the 'Shoe's website has been keeping its fingers crossed for weeks that the stars could align, if only Bruce would stay in town:

Now this is the night [Springsteen] COULD show - We’re laying odds about twelve thousand to one, but if for some reason he ain’t jetting away back to New Jersey, anything is possible, I mean the fucking SPECIALS just played in Toronto, PAUL WELLER is doing JAM songs, GUIDED BY VOICES reformed, again - lol, I mean who knows what’s musically possible anymore, right?
Springsteen was here on Wednesday for TIFF's red carpet gala presentation of The Promise, as well as a Q&A session with Edward Norton. At the time, Horseshoe co-owner Jeff Cohen was cautious, posting on a Springsteen discussion board that "he could very well be going home any time later today, though our fringers [sic] are crossed his stays over one more night, because of the obvious."

Cohen—a diehard Boss fan—had largely dismissed the possibility of Springsteen dropping by; he assumed that the singer would hop on his private jet and fly back to New Jersey as soon as The Promise was over. But the Boss stayed: Springsteen attended a Sony party at Coco Lezzone, on College Street Wednesday afternoon (and posed for pictures!). Now, something Cohen dismissed as "a zillion to one shot" only a week ago has started to look like it might only be highly improbable.

Cohen told Torontoist in an email that he figures he'd drop the odds to as good as five hundred to one if he actually knew Bruce was staying overnight, too. But even then, he figures Springsteen might just want to hang at the bar and enjoy the respectful treatment of Toronto's music fans. (Cohen's official Vegas line on Springsteen being in his club and getting up on stage? Back up to five thousand to one.)

We left a message with the PR folks at Sony Music Canada, and while we haven't heard back from them, it's not like we expect them to say, "Oh sure, he'll be there," either.

If you're sitting at your computer, or even strolling down Queen Street reading this on your iPhone and thinking of running over, save yourself the trouble. "Luckily the show is sold out in advance," Cohen explains—it sold-out Monday—"and all the non-muzoids, those who perhaps don't understand our indie community can't get in...so we could at least assure Bruce of a visit here to be quite relaxed and peaceful."

But if you've got one of the $15 ducats in your hand? Prepare to sell it to someone at a ridiculously inflated price—tickets for the show are now going for upwards of $100 on Craigslist—or, just maybe, keep it and have a night you won't forget.

Additional reporting by Ashley Carter/Torontoist.


No, I won't be going, there's already scalpers selling tickets for $50 each, & this is only on a rumor, Bruce caused a lot of excitement on the red carpet at TIFF & probably one of the most people they were waiting for.
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UNDER THE RADAR IN TORONTO: DARKNESS BOX SNEAK PEAK
Last night's gala premiere of The Promise had red carpets, flashing cameras, and Springsteen himself as a Toronto International Film Festival main attraction. We'll have more on that in short order. But first, we report from a lower-profile event this afternoon that was no less astounding for any Bruce fan: a further lift of the lid of the forthcoming box, for an extended preview of The Promise: The Darkness on the Edge of Town Story. Daniel Joyaux reports for Backstreets.

Jon Landau gave a nice introduction to a theater of about 50 people assembled to hear snippets of the Darkness box set for the first time. Many of the press in attendance were international, and Landau made sure to stress how important the overseas market is to the Springsteen team. He specifically cited Barcelona, Milan, and Berlin as cities that they love playing and that often muster some of E Street's greatest performances. Landau said there is no current plan for another tour, but that it's "inevitable." (That was the quote, so I'm inclined to believe him. It appears that, despite some major theories to the contrary, we have not seen the last of the E Street Band on tour.) Landau also specifically called out to Australia and Japan: "We know you're out there, and we'll be back!"

For the preview, we were given eight full songs from the audio portion of the box set, and five songs from the video portion. Landau stressed that the two-CD collection of unreleased audio "really is the great lost Springsteen album. It's the album that would have come out between Born to Run and Darkness."



"Racing in the Street" (rock version) This cut has mostly the same lyrics (although the car was a '32 Ford instead of a '69 Chevy), but the music is radically different. The piano is much more up-tempo, it's flooded with harmonica, and sonically it has a similar feel to "The Promised Land." Danny's great organ melody remains intact, but here it's smothered with a guitar solo.

"Gotta Get that Feeling" Perhaps the most girl group-esque of any song in Bruce's catalogue, this features some great backing vocals (I think it must have been Stevie), and the whole vibe of the song evokes the Ronnettes. Considering how often Ronnie Spector and Bruce crossed paths in '76 and '77, I wondered if this song might have been inspired by Bruce's introduction to her.

"Outside Looking In" Seems obviously inspired by Buddy Holly, with a tempo that evokes "Peggy Sue." A fun song that provides a lot of insight into the range of what the Darkness sessions had to offer.

"Someday (We’ll Be Together)" At one point in the documentary, Bruce noted that Landau was a big gospel fan, and this song might have been written with him in mind. Churchy backing vocals by what sounds like a trio of ladies, and a drum sound that reminds me of the one Jimmy Iovine created with Tom Petty on songs like "Refugee." Also, there's a great guitar solo that sounds like it walked right out of a Sergio Leone spaghetti western.

"Because the Night" In the intro, Landau mentioned that Bruce threw a lot of these songs out when they were still works in progress, so a handful of them needed touching up, and even some finished lyrics (similar to what theStones just did with the Exile on Main Street bonus cuts they issued earlier this year). I wonder if this is one of those songs, because while listening, I really felt like the chorus sounded distinctly like current Bruce instead of '78 Bruce. Is it possible this song was handed off to Patti Smith when it didn't even have a chorus?

"Ain't Good Enough For You" My favorite of the songs previewed. For anyone that's always believed the E Street Band is the greatest bar band ever, this song is for you. Featuring a handclap chorus and plenty of whoa-oohhs in the backing vocals, this is Bruce at his most fun. A good R&B feel, and similar to the work Southside Johnny was doing at the time, this also features one of the most unusual lyric pieces I've ever heard from Bruce, name-dropping his then-engineer: "cool like Jimmy Iovine." Considering how famous Bruce is for creating characters within his songs, he's rarely referenced a real person, let alone a friend.

"Talk to Me" Extremely similar to the well-known version by Southside Johnny, this is, nonetheless, a delight to hear in its original E Street version (though I liked the impromptu Bruce & Stevie version in the documentary even better).

"The Promise" Every bit as good as its legend. While listening to this song, you really gain understanding that it's the missing link. It's the transitory song where the characters from Born to Run became the characters on Darkness. In many ways, this is the moment where young, romantic Bruce became Bruce Springsteen: the man. For those of you who have only heard the re-recorded version from '98, you’re in for a revelation.



"Badlands" & "Streets of Fire" These performances were both taken from a complete performance of the Darkness album the band did in December of '09 in Asbury Park especially for director Thom Zimny to use for this box set. No Patti, Soozie, or Nils on these songs, just the guys that originally recorded the album (and, of course, Charlie filling in for Danny). The band nailed them both, particularly "Streets of Fire," a song I'd never seen in concert. Bruce told a funny story when he addressed the crowd after the sneak peak. Following almost two full years of touring, he and the band went to go record this live version of the Darkness album — but Patti told him he had to be home for dinner by 7. So when he got to Asbury Park for the filming, he told Zimny that he only had time to do two run-throughs; luckily, one of them was more than good enough.

"Candy's Room" Live in the studio from the original sessions, with Bruce shirtless and sporting an amazing afro (looking very much like Brad Delp, lead singer of Boston — it's clear Bruce has been hiding photos of this era from public display). It's unclear what band members are on the session, but Stevie's on percussion ("Miami, lookin’ good!" Bruce shouted right before they began). The song is much slower than what we’re used to, and I enjoyed thinking of an alternate reality Darkness on the Edge of Town where "Candy's Room" was the slowest song on the album and "Racing in the Street" was one of its best rockers. The song is good, but it's so radically different that I found it disorienting. It'll take a few more listens to really decide what I think.

"The Promised Land" & "Prove it All Night" – Two live performances from ’78 (different shows, though), that make clear how good the tour was. "Promised Land" was great, but the real treat here is "Prove It." For anyone that has never heard this song live from '78, it might be the best part of the whole box set for you. The version of "Prove It" I've had on a '78 bootleg from Jersey has, over the years, become my go-to song to play for anyone wondering about the E Street Band in concert. With the long piano/guitar intro that builds the momentum, the song was stretched out to a ten-minute-plus epic that rivaled "Rosalita" in show-stopping intensity. It also showcases, to great effect, the guitar hero side of Bruce that always seems to take the back seat to Bruce the singer and Bruce the songwriter.

And with that pulse-pounding conclusion, which drew an enthusiastic applause from the small audience of press figures, Jon Landau thanked everyone for taking part in the 64-minute preview of the box set. It was a preview that ensured I'll have a long wait until November 16, but I'm ecstatic I got to take part.

Tune in to E Street Radio on Friday morning, when Daniel will be taking about the preview session with Dave Marsh on "Live From E Street Nation."
- September 15, 2010

Thanks for sharing.  New record shop just opened one town away, I'll be there the day it opens for this.  I love fall for new releases!
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From hbo.com

A taster of "The Promise" documentary - 'Factory', including some home movie footage of Bruce and his dad

http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?vid=1121171&forumId=global&filter=featured&...

More teasers here :

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Search for the essential: he is looking for "that essential thing that matters to me, that matters to him, that matters to you", says Springsteen, today. He has stuck with Martin Scorsese's line about getting an audience "to care about your obsessions"

SHANE HEGARTY

In Toronto for the premiere of a documentary about the career-defining album that could so easily have been his last, a youthful 61-year-old Bruce Springsteen talks about retracing his steps to a creative fork in the road

AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT on a calm street in downtown Toronto. Bruce Springsteen sits on the inside of a long table, his back to the wall, the focus of such attention from the group lunching with him, who are leaning in towards him, that it would be understandable if the singer asked everyone to just back off a bit. He doesn’t. He talks on, answers every question and indulges those trying to hog the encounter, while making sure to address those at its edges. The cluster of record executives and journalists are all male, except for a Japanese woman whose colleagues manoeuvre her so that she’s directly to Springsteen’s right. Thereafter she sports the stunned grin of the starstruck.

It’s a popular look among those around the table. A waiter stops mid-service to earwig and is still there 15 minutes later. Already, Springsteen’s wife and E Street Band member, Patti Scialfa, has volunteered to be squeezed from the table: “I’m going to move out to let you guys get closer to him.” She does it with the generosity of someone who knows that some of us are in the thick of fulfilling a lifetime ambition. I won’t pretend I’m not among them.

That Springsteen has joined us is something of a surprise. He is in town because of Toronto International Film Festival and the premiere of a documentary about the making of Darkness on the Edge of Town, which itself comes in advance of The Promise , a box set comprising an album of other songs recorded for that session, plus new and old live footage and the documentary. That year-long Darkness session, 32 years ago, off the back of a legal battle with his first manager, spawned dozens of songs. Some were half-finished, others dropped just as they were done, so that what Springsteen calls the “10 toughest songs” remained – including the title track, Badlands , The Promised Land, Racing in the Street, Factory, Streets of Fire – hewn from a session that drove the E Street Band “a good deal insane”.

Springsteen spent weeks alone just trying to get “the drums to sound like drums”, as the documentary explains. While sonically sparse compared with the previous Born to Run , Darkness on the Edge of Town is an epic of American landscape, dispossession and resilience born out of a “huge amount of ego, ambition and hunger”. He wanted to write something truly great. It wasn’t greeted too keenly by much of the press. It didn’t sell too much at first either. Then he toured it. “When they saw it live, then they got it,” he says. Today it is a classic.

When he was recording it he was doing so with the intensity of a musician who didn’t know if he’d get another chance to make an album once this one came out. At a time when a three-year gap between albums was career suicide he read “where are they now?” pieces about himself.

“We were dead,” he says, with a certain relish. “They just wanted to know if it was real or if it had been a construction.” So he focused on writing “the most important album we could, the biggest thing ever”. When Darkness was released Dave Marsh, in Rolling Stone , declared it an album that would change the way people listened to rock. In The Irish Times , Joe Breen said it confirmed him as “the most important songwriter in rock” – but not all reviews were so positive. “It wasn’t Born to Run 2, so they didn’t get it,” says Springsteen. Then he took it on the road. “In one town,” he says, “this kid comes up to me and says, ‘Hey, Bruce, my friends say it’s not as good as Born to Run , but I think it’s okay.’ ”

Earlier in the day about 40 of us gathered in an old cinema where some of the “lost” tracks and concert footage were introduced by his manager, Jon Landau, whose 1974 quote “I saw rock’n’roll future, and its name is Bruce Springsteen” we are at this point obliged to reference. Verses appeared on the large screen in time with the songs. The first track was not one that had been lost as such but a version of Racing in the Street that was so lush it was like hearing it for the first time. When it faded out someone behind me gasped quietly. They’re record executives, of course. They’re paid to gasp. But, hell, through surround sound, with Panavision lyrics, in the soft hush of the cinema, it was goosebump stuff.

Seven more tracks were played, revealing a range of songs, with a more pronounced interest in love and relationships than present on the original album. There are some live clips from the DVD element of the box set, including a live recording of Darkness , in correct order, during which Springsteen is in full flight, neck straining, teeth gritted, making no concession to the fact that it is being recorded in an empty theatre.

After this Landau returns to his mic in the corner of the room. A spotlight struggles to keep up with him. He thanks a few of the people involved. Then he thanks Springsteen. He is sitting at the back of the theatre. The man behind me gasps again.

Springsteen gives a modest wave. He gets a standing ovation.

Twenty minutes later Springsteen and the cloud of people that gathers around him have been ushered from the venue for a restaurant next door. Small groups are brought to his table intermittently. Our turn comes, and we move up, glasses of wine where autograph books might be. It is just after the starters, and we spend the rest of the meal with him. For the journalists in the group it is a strange set-up: not an interview but not off the record. Throwing a Dictaphone on the table would change the dynamic.

He talks about survival, success, his memories of whichever country someone wants him to talk about. He talks about the way modern culture expects you to be ubiquitous. “They think I’m a recluse, that I never do any interviews,” he says. “I do interviews all the time. I think I’m pretty accessible. But if you’re not always out there, they think you’re Garbo.”

His presence in Toronto has been the focus of media coverage during the week. At a festival that cultivates queues regardless, the one for a Q&A with the actor Ed Norton began the night before. At that event, his voice a low rumble to Norton’s halting helium, he had talked mostly about Darkness on the Edge of Town , his “angry” record, informed primarily by his wish to write about his parents’ generation and their struggle to match the promise of the US with its reality – “honouring my parents and their history and the people I knew: these things weren’t being written about” – and to reflect the post-Vietnam era and his country’s loss of innocence.

Artistically, it was influenced by the attitude of the punk movement, by movies such as Mean Streets and by Springsteen’s travels across the US, which took him out of New Jersey for the first time and sent him into an epic landscape that can be heard on the album. But most of all it was about reclaiming something of himself, post-fame. “I had my first taste of success, and I think you realise it’s possible for your identity to get co-opted,” he says. “When you have some success you have a variety of choices. I looked at some of the maps the people before me had drawn. ‘Here there be dragons!’ And the world was flat to them, and they fell off the edge. And that was something I’d rather not do. And part of that was keeping a sense of myself.”

He became “a mutant in your neighbourhood”. “I decided that the key to that was maintaining a sense of myself, understanding that a part of myself had been mutated . . . There was a thrust of self-preservation more than anything else.”

In the restaurant it is palpable how much he has built an inner circle, and fortified it over decades: Landau and co-manager Barbara Carr; the same record company; the core of The E Street Band has remained largely unchanged since the early days. He talks about this unit, how the film-maker Thom Zimny has become part of a crew that “go beyond committed” and a band who have to stay so in order to fulfil the stated mission.

In a politically polarised US he is now as big – probably bigger – outside his home country. Even among the committed, the reaction in the US doesn’t quite match that he receives in Scandinavia, Italy, Spain and Ireland. Landau had said it earlier, Scialfa backs it up over lunch, and Springsteen adds to it. “They just bring such a passion with them, and you feed off that,” he says, but without the emptiness that usually comes from praising one or other country’s audience.

Seven years ago he played a single show at the RDS. Over 2008 and 2009 he played five. I wonder if there was a cementing of that relationship during the Seeger Sessions tour in 2006, when the folk-heavy music was appreciated here on a level not matched elsewhere. “No,” he says, “it was on Devils Dust . I came and played the Point, and I thought I’d love to just do 10 of these shows. There was an intensity about that show that was powerful.” There was indeed, aided by the fact that it was raining so hard that the drumming on the roof offered an atmospheric duet during what was a solo performance.

The audience intensity is, though, a response to his own commitment on stage. He has toured relentlessly in recent years – 11 shows in Ireland alone since 2005 – and last time around he was playing almost three hours of bone-shaking brilliance without even the pretence of walking off for an encore. “You have to want to do it,” he says. “Also, you have to show, not tell. That’s why they call it show business. It’s not the ‘tell business’, it’s ‘show’ business’ ”

He talks about Sting once telling him, “You work too hard”, then later adding: “Oh, I get it, this is the only way you know how to do it.”

Springsteen’s drive has to be matched by the band’s, and he will not allow it to flag. “I would put any of our shows now alongside anything we did 30 years ago,” he says. “I want it to be that if your brother comes to see this, he won’t have seen us play better. If your father comes, he won’t have seen us play better. If you’re grandfather comes, he won’t have seen us play better.”

Since the turn of the decade he has become fascinated by his own past and is keen to catalogue it. “I’ve become interested in the history of the band, in putting it together,” he says. “For a long time I was u ncomfortable about filming, but about 10 years ago we decided to film everything. And this is about putting things together for all of those who are new to us, who have come to our shows and started listening to us but who weren’t even born when Darkness first came out.”

Two years ago Born to Run received the box-set treatment, but what makes Springsteen so vital is that he has not turned to the past in the need to remind the world of his relevance. In his producer Brendan O’Brien he has found a steady hand on recent albums, but the core has been Springsteen’s creative purple patch.

His most recent album, last year’s Working on a Dream , was in some ways a sigh of contentment after previous albums that were politically charged ( Magic, The Seeger Sessions ), intimate ( Devils Dust ) or spanning both personal and public grief and resilience ( The Rising ). Although even Working on a Dream was an exhalation of relief, following Barack Obama’s election.

His music, he says, has always been a search for what he calls the “essential”, that element that gets to the core of everyone’s experience, “that essential thing that matters to me, that matters to him, that matters to you”. He has stuck with Martin Scorsese’s line about getting an audience “to care about your obsessions”.

Darkness was the beginning of what he calls the “long narrative” of his songwriting, a story he began to tell with it and which he has committed himself to carrying through everything since.

The night before, he had told Ed Norton that he always understood this necessity. “I said there’s other guys who play guitar well, there’s other guys who front really well, there’s other rocking bands out there. But the writing and the imagining of a world, that’s a particular thing, you know. That’s a single fingerprint. All the film-makers we love, all the writers we love, all the songwriters we love, they put their fingerprint on your imagination, in your heart. And on your soul. That was something that I felt touched by, and I thought, well, I wanted to do that.”

It has meant that his themes have been not just political or societal but very personal. He writes, after all, about ageing in a way that few other artists are brave enough to do. There has to be a commitment to that, he says. He must be unflinching, must not shy away from saying that people change and age, and that you have to deal with it. “Write about it,” he says. “Don’t be scared of it.”

When recording the Darkness live set he demanded that the decades be on stark display. He found a way in an unlikely source. “I saw this Jean-Claude Van Damme movie. I don’t know if you’ve seen it: it’s called JCVD , and he plays himself in it and gets caught up in a bank robbery. But it’s filmed in this washed-out way, very grey, and it really shows his age. And I said to Thom, that’s what I want for this recording.”

Springsteen turned 61 on Thursday. He is tanned, fresh; even the crow’s feet are taut. His hair is dark enough that you wonder if it might be dyed, but grey splashes about his ears. He has an enthusiasm that seems to bubble through from his 27-year-old self, a wick of youthfulness that burns through.

It becomes clear that, over the course of a couple of days, Springsteen has returned more than once to the notion of survival, of Darkness being recorded with an intensity born of an understanding that this could have been the last album he recorded. Stunted by the legal wrangle with his manager, Springsteen had to survive on live shows and the reputation of Born to Run . That album had made him a global star and was the thing that put him on the cover of Time and Newsweek in the same week in 1975. In a sense, it had the power to kill him too.

From this perspective Darkness is integral to the flow of his career, but from his own viewpoint at the time it could have been the end. He expresses deep pride at the result, how it sounded then, how it sounds now. But it is also becomes clear that his open excitement is from a keen appreciation that he is not just revisiting an album, a session, some old video footage, that this is not merely a holiday with nostalgia, but that he is revisiting a fork in the road with the satisfaction of knowing that his younger self chose the right path.

The lunch ends. Springsteen’s meal has been half-eaten, accompanied by a largely untouched glass of orange juice. He has to be encouraged to leave for his flight.

Ten minutes later a photograph is posted on Twitter by someone who lives by the restaurant. It is of Springsteen, in check shirt, jeans and sunglasses, with a huge grin, sitting on a motorbike on the street, posing with a fan. It is making someone’s day. You’d be hard pressed to tell whose.


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The Promise: The Darkness on the Edge of Town Story , a 3CD/3DVD box set, and The Promise double CD are both released on November 12th


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It's actually twelve.  (10 in Dublin and 2 in Belfast)

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Gazza wrote on Sep 25th, 2010 at 5:36pm:
"11 shows in Ireland alone since 2005 "

It's actually twelve.  (10 in Dublin and 2 in Belfast)

I've been at every one of them.

Wow 12 shows in about what 4 years. That's not counting shows in England Gazza?
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