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« on: Febrero 11, 2005, 10:08:35 pm »
Estuve investigando acerca del logo de los Stones y a quien se le atribuye, porque lei en un post acerca del modelo de la portada de Sticky Fingers que el logotipo es un diseño de un ayudante de Andy Warhol.
Cita de: "nik jager"
la lengua tampoco la diseño warhol , fue su ayudante ...............

Warhol por Sebastian Kruger

Bueno, Warhol tuvo mucho que ver con los Stones y con otras bandas importantes, pero no he encontrado una fuente donde se afirme que él diseño el logo.

Roger dice que se inspiraron en la diosa Kali,
Cita de: "rogerriffin"
con respecto a la lengua, tengo entendido que es la de la diosa Kali (sabiduria) que viene en el Exile, Warhol solo le dio el toque comercial a la imagen.



Y si, en las representaciones de la diosa madre de los hindús aparece con una gran lengua roja.

Por lo que respecta al Exile parece ser un poster de una pelicula porno. Se alcanza a leer Sweet Taste of Joy,



Tal vez la foto la tomaron en la 42 st. en NYC.



Además Exile sale cuando el logo ya estaba hecho.

Acerca de Ruby Mazur,
Cita de: "Pepe"
La lengua tiene su origen en un tal Ruby Mazur

Êl diseño la portada para el sencillo Tumblin´ Dice.


Mouth & Tongue - Original Design for Tumbling Dice
Seguramente inspirado en le logo de Pasche.

Ruby Mazur ha hecho una serie de trabajos con la misma temática de la boca y la lengua.


Tongue America


Mick Jagger


So Beautiful...


Mouth & Tongue


Ready


The Crucifiction


You Can Always Get What You Want

El creador del logo de los Stones es John Pasche, de acuerdo con Bill Wyman, Pasche fue contactado para realizar un poster para la gira europea de los Stones y un logotipo en 1970.
Un año después recibió un pago de 50 guineas por su trabajo.


La lengua aparece por primera vez en los interiores de Sticky Fingers.

Ahora bien, acerca de la gran cantidad de rediseños que los Stones han hecho con su logo no tengo idea de quien los ha hecho, tal vez Warhol hizo alguno y por eso se le atribuya su creación.


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« Respuesta #1 on: Febrero 12, 2005, 08:59:04 am »
Verdaderamente te la sacaste con ese post!

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« Respuesta #2 on: Febrero 12, 2005, 11:24:09 am »
Desconozco el "behind the story" pero las otras lenguas super conocidas son:

Bridges to Babylon ( 1997-98 )






Forty Licks ( 2002 )



Y la que sigue no sé si alguien sabe si es referente a un tour o puro merchandising. Siempre me llamó la atención.
Si tienes voz, tienes palabras, déjalas caer...

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« Respuesta #3 on: Febrero 12, 2005, 12:15:49 pm »
a eso le llamo    in -ves - ti - ga - cion  !!

gracias mil

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« Respuesta #4 on: Febrero 12, 2005, 12:38:30 pm »
la investigacion las ilustraciones  de sergio esta buenisima
pepe tu dato tambien  me ayudo mucho  
ahi pego algo de info de la red

en el item 1 / descubre el misterio de quien diseño el logo

mil disculpas pero esta en ingles y si la traduce la maquina casi ni se entinede el significado ............

1/ The famous tongue and lip design and countless variations of such has graced countless official and unofficial Rolling Stones memorabilia and products since it first appeared when the band formed "Rolling Stones Records" in 1971. Credit for the creation of the original design has been mistakenly given to several people over the years. Many have stated that Andy Warhol was the originator. He did design two album covers for the band, but not the tongue design. In 1995, Billboard Magazine printed that it was from the mind of Ruby Mazur. Discovering their mistake, they later corrected their statement, identifying Mazur as the designer of the first official variation of the tongue design. With further research later that year, Billboard definitely uncovered that the original classic design came from John Pasch. Two years later, Mick Jagger confirmed that Pasch was the originator of the fabled logo.


2 / RUBY MAZUR INVADES VEGAS
Ruby Mazur of The Rolling Stones Mouth & Tongue logo fame has left New York for Las Vegas. The artist whose works have graced everything album covers to cigar bands is opening Star City Galleries - a celebrity art gallery - which will be located in the Desert Passage Mall in the new Aladdin Hotel.

RUBY MAZUR's art work has appeared on everything from record albums to this cigar band
Although the gallery isn't set to open until the first week of August rounding up the celebrities and their artistic creations takes months of preparation. Mazur provided us with a partial list of celebrities whose paintings will be exhibited.

Tony Bennett, David Bowie, Pierce Bronson, Jon Mellancamp, Anthony Quinn, Paul McCartney, Tico Torres, Carly Simon, Peter Falk, Joni Mitchell, Tony Curtis, Billy D. Williams, Ronnie Woods, Christie Brinkley, Johnny Cash, Donna Summer, Gene Hackman, Jack Palance, Sharon Stone, Jane Seymore, Jon Entwistle, John Lennon, Diana Ross, Frank Sinatra, Sylvester Stallone and Graham Nash.

"To celebrate the opening of the gallery there will be a group show consisting of myself, Tico Torres, Peter Falk and Pierce Bronson," said Mazur. "At the opening evening these celebrities will be there. Their original paintings will be for sale as well as signed and numbered lithographs. The lithos will be very affordable for the public to purchase. The lithos will range in price form $1,500 to $7,500," Mazur continued.

"Every month there will be another opening with a different celebrity's work," added the artist.

As for Mazur, he's known the world over for his legendary mouth and tongue logo used on The Rolling Stones' Tumbling Dice record sleeve. At the age of 21, the Brooklyn born artist was hired as Art Director of Paramount Records, and within that first year he received a Grammy award nomination for his design on the Crowfoot album.

Innovative and influential, his outrageous and trendsetting designs have graced over 3,000 various album covers for the likes of Elton John, Billy Joel, Ray Charles, Sarah Vaughn, Van Morrison, Jim Croce and B.B. King in addition to such movie soundtracks as Love Story, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, Malcolm X and Lenny Bruce.




3/ No moss

Rolling Stones logo artist Ruby Mazur quietly (and soberly) pursues his craft in Las Vegas


By Tiffannie Bond


Ruby Mazur is a hippie from the good days of hippiness. He could be framed on the wall in a museum, and when children in 2041 ask, "What were the 1970s like?" Mazur could be frozen there for all time, smiling with his tongue sticking out.

He's partied with Andy Warhol, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison. He easily slipped past the velvet rope at the famous Studio 54 in New York City when admission was nearly impossible.

"I painted all day and did drugs at night. It was insane," Mazur says. "Of all the abusive things I've done, I was never out of control in public. I'd party with them, but I never went overboard. Maybe that's why I'm still alive and they're not. It's very surreal."

In the first years of college, Mazur and his brother spent weekends in New York City at their father's club, The Cat and Fiddle. There, they met a "short, fuzzy-haired, stumpy kid" named Billy Joel, Mazur says, and started to manage his career.

The only thing that dates back further than Mazur's rock 'n' roll days is his art. He started drawing at age 5, and by 21 his ability to go balls-out during an interview landed him the job as artistic director at Paramount Records.

He didn't even know the size of a record album.

Two offices later, he's sitting in Los Angeles pulling out what's left of his hair over a deadline. His secretary called to say the lead singer of the Rolling Stones was on the phone. Mazur thought it was a joke and hung up on him. Next thing he knew, Mick Jagger was walking through the door. He dropped everything.

Mazur tells the story of the first time he walked into the recording studio where the Stones were preparing Sticky Fingers. A sterling silver bowl was on the counter, filled with sugar. Or so he thought. It turns out they didn't like a lot of sugar in their tea. They enjoyed their cocaine.

Nervous, Mazur fumbled and knocked the whole thing onto the floor.

All was forgiven by the time Mazur returned with sketches of the logo they hired him to create. The famous red mouth and tongue was a caricature of Jagger. The singer saw it and pushed Mazur into the pool out of excitement.

"He loved it, and 35 years later here we are," Mazur says. He's locked in a legal battle with Jagger's people these days, suing for millions of dollars over royalties for his design dating to 1971. Album covers were a one-shot deal. No residuals.

"It was work for hire. Once it was done, it was done," Mazur says. "They'd pay me $5,000, and that was it. It's wrong. Now I won't do anything like that without a contract and a royalty agreement. You have to [protect yourself] or they will fuck you."

In true hippie form, Mazur was up all night working on the album cover for Richard Harris' Slides. Some Quaaludes and cocaine later, he finished the album and sent it to the printer. Back then, there was no such thing as artist or legal approval. This was the night Mazur learned a strung-out artist should never be set free without a sober proofread.

Days later, Mazur got a call. About 250,000 copies had been printed with "Once Upon a Dutsy Road" instead of "dusty." Not to mention at least a dozen other mistakes.

"That was the last time I ever did drugs and worked," Mazur says. "That was embarrassing. Dope is for dopes. If I was my boss, I would've fired me."

A few sobering moments in Mazur's life have caused the hippie to tone it down a bit. But not too much. He named his four children after master painters--film actress Monet Mazur, 26, Matisse, 18, and twins Cezanne and Miro, 16. He moved out of the Red Rock Country Club in Summerlin because it was "too snobby" and into Rhodes Ranch, where he's spent the past few months of his five-year stint in the city. He lives there with his two dogs, Lucy and Zeus, each more than 100 pounds.

Most days he wakes up "with a ball of energy" at 2:30 a.m., drinks his coffee, reads the news on the Internet and starts to paint. "During the day, all the shit starts. The phone starts to ring," he says. "From 3 in the morning to 9, I get more work done. There's plenty of time to sleep when you're dead. There's too much to do."

He guesses his funky sleep schedule started after the second fire of his career destroyed his collection of paintings two weeks before his first big art show in New York. He woke up early to paint in order to have pieces to fill the walls.

"I hit one of the firemen because he wouldn't let me in the apartment. They picked me up and threw me out into the street," he says. "I was crying on the curb watching the building burn down. It was either blow my brains out or get my shit together and get going again."

In his studio, a converted living room, he's working on a logo for his bowling league, The Bowling Stones, and a birthday present for his daughter. "It's late," he says. Her birthday was in April. "I'll be up all weekend working on that."

Most of his paintings are stored at warehouses or the Art de Vignettes gallery in the Fashion Show Mall. He's not taking another chance.

"If it happened again, I just might lose it," Mazur says. He lost his 3,000-album collection of his designs in a fire five years before the New York incident. "Kill me, not my paintings."

When he's not painting, Mazur says he hangs out with Lance Burton and Clint Holmes. He also scans yard sales and thrift stores for a piece of his own history. His collection of his album designs now reaches a meek 100. He was excited to go to his daughter's house and find a mouth-and-tongue-shaped telephone. Any memorabilia is up for grabs.

"I said, 'It's mine,' because I lost all my Stones shit," he says. His daughter bought the phone for $3 at a yard sale. "It's crazy because now I'm spending $20 to $30 on an album. I just found a couple of Charlie Daniels [album covers] I did."

Mazur admits he can't remember every one of the more than 3,000 record albums he created. When he sees them in the bins at a thrift store, or on a table at a garage sale, "it clicks," he says.

But that may be because of all the drugs he did in the '70s.



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« Respuesta #5 on: Febrero 12, 2005, 12:49:51 pm »
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La lengüeta y el labio famosos diseñan y las variaciones incontables de tales tienen graced a funcionario incontable y el memorabilia y los productos oficiosos de las piedras del balanceo desde él primero aparecieron cuando la venda formó "expedientes de las piedras del balanceo" en 1971. El crédito para la creación del diseño original se ha dado equivocadamente a varios personas sobre los años. Muchos han indicado que Andy Warhol era el autor. Él diseñó dos cubiertas del álbum para la venda, pero no el diseño de la lengüeta. En 1995, el compartimiento de la cartelera imprimió que era de la mente de Mazur de rubíes. Descubriendo su error, corrigieron más adelante su declaración, identificando Mazur como el diseñador de la primera variación oficial del diseño de la lengüeta. Con la investigación adicional más adelante que el año, cartelera destapó definitivamente que el diseño clásico original vino de Juan Pasch. Dos años más adelante, Mick Jagger confirmó que Pasch era el autor del fabled insignia

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