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European Tour 2018 - Rumours and Possible dates
Feb 8th, 2018 at 5:35am
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 6:28pm
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The most rock solid rumours this year so far are for the following dates

May 17 Dublin - Croke Park (this would probably be the opening night of the tour)

June 19 & 23 London - Twickenham Stadium

Applications have definitely been made for licenses for concerts on those three dates, although its not confirmed for which artist (but you can take it to the bank that its for the Stones...)

Croke Park is far from a sure thing IMO. The local residents are very strict about only permitting three shows per year and those three slots have already been taken (2 for Taylor Swift and one for Michael Buble). About three or four years ago, the promoters added and sold out three extra Garth Brooks shows once an original pair had sold out before applying for a licence, which was then refused after resident's objections. Brooks refused to cancel the extra dates and all five ended up being pulled (thats 400,000 tickets!)

If Aiken Promotions have any foresight, I'd like to think they have the Aviva Stadium in mind for a back-up if the application fails. It holds 30,000 less people, but at over 50,000 its still big enough for a Stones gig and has held major concerts in recent years since it was redeveloped (Madonna, ACDC, Rihanna, etc).

I believe theres also an issue with the number of shows that Twickenham can stage and theyve already announced two Eminem dates there in mid-July.  However, the promoter has specifically asked for two extra dates to be allowed. I'd guess that those shows are more likely to go ahead ok.

Expect to hear something regarding both applications in the next 2-3 weeks.

The fact that they were looking to play in Sunderland suggests there'll be a couple of shows in the north of England. Newcastle's St James Park would be the most obvious alternative to that one but I'd expect something for the Lancashire/Yorkshire area as well - Manchester has certainly been rumoured.
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 6:30pm
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I hope you dont mind, Edith - but I changed the thread title as it might be a good idea to keep these sort of stories together ahead of a tour confirmation.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:56pm
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Bjornulf has today started a tour page on IORR which includes the above dates plus the likelihood of a show or two in Manchester

https://iorr.org/tour18/
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My company has a huge facility in Cork IE...maybe I can work in a site visit around May 17th...need to work on this now...couple of hours by train i suspect...
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My company has a huge facility in Cork IE...maybe I can work in a site visit around May 17th...need to work on this now...couple of hours by train i suspect...


About 2 and a half on average. Piece of cake. Go for it.
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Reply #9 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:35pm
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Gazza wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
My company has a huge facility in Cork IE...maybe I can work in a site visit around May 17th...need to work on this now...couple of hours by train i suspect...


About 2 and a half on average. Piece of cake. Go for it.



Fucking A...now you have me really thinking about this...I really have to convince them on Cork vs Boston...Dublin's about the halfway point to Belfast, innit?
Oh yeah...there is also a non-stop from here as well...Airbus 330

If I can score a lucky DIP...I think I may do this...
BITCH!!! I need some of that sexy luck of yours...please send it to me!!
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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:06pm
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Yeah, its actually a bit closer to Belfast (100 miles).

Might do that show as a Lucky Dip, if they're going to be available. I think the chances of an upgrade in a stadium that can hold 80,000 would be quite decent. Plus, for only the third time in 51 shows, I could actually get there and home again on the same night.
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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I'd say were still probably a couple of weeks away from an official announcement as those Croke Park and Twickenham licence applications have to go through,  but in addition to whats been mentioned previously, theres now talk of a show in Edinburgh at Murrayfield Stadium and at St Marys Stadium in Southampton (the latter is a small stadium - maybe about 30,000) and only about 70 miles south of Twickenham).

And the possibility of something else for London in May - probably after Dublin.  Not much availability then in terms of stadiums, so maybe something indoors? Would make sense as I really cant see how the Stones ticket prices could see them being able to play the much rumoured 10-12 shows in the UK if theyre playing only stadiums.

Intriguingly, it also seems they were lined up to play a show at the football stadium in Lyon, France on June 26 - but the club president claims theyve been outbid for a show on the same date elsewhere - he believes its at the Stade Velodrome in Marseille.

https://www.radioscoop.com/infos/les-rolling-stones-a-lyon-un-rendez-vous-manque...

So if THAT is correct, then a) the projected Twickenham shows would not be the last dates of the tour and b) we can all have a party at Egon's house. 
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Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2018 at 6:03pm
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Gazza wrote on Feb 14th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
So if THAT is correct, then a) the projected Twickenham shows would not be the last dates of the tour and b) we can all have a party at Egon's house. 



So say we all!!
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Reply #13 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:36am
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The licence application for a show at Croke Park, Dublin on May 17th

see the link for OEL 0011-2018

Interesting to see what goes into these applications

http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-planning/outdoor-event-licence-appli...
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Gazza wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:36am:
The licence application for a show at Croke Park, Dublin on May 17th

see the link for OEL 0011-2018

Interesting to see what goes into these applications

http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-planning/outdoor-event-licence-appli...




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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #17 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 2:45pm
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Edith Grove wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 11:23am:
Gazza wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 9:36am:
The licence application for a show at Croke Park, Dublin on May 17th

see the link for OEL 0011-2018

Interesting to see what goes into these applications

http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-services-planning/outdoor-event-licence-appli...




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Diamond Pit 350 0.3 1167

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GA Standing 7000 0.5 14000

Disabled Platform N/A N/A 200

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Ediht I'm looking into disabling myself for this show......evolving
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Reply #18 - Feb 15th, 2018 at 6:02pm
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Vertigo tickets?!?


No clue what this is...but I was able to fake anxiety and stress enough to have our piss-ass shitty Unlucky dips seats exchanged for amazing lower level seats in Raleigh 2015 with TomL.

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It seems like a lot of shows in your neck of the woods Gazza! Get as many Lucky Dips as you possibly can. If you want to buy pit instead, you can always sell these in a heartbeat. Secondly, once in the door if your seats suck sit somewhere open and if someone approaches just act stupid. Warning! It can be dangerous, I was thrown out and beat up once at an AC/DC concert. The other hundred times I had no problem.
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Reply #20 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 4:33am
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It is beginning to smell like a new album is on its way, which may bode well for a slightly more extended tour beyond the dates above. I just can't see them not flogging something to go with these dates.

I am looking forward to these dates more than almost any for the past 10 years. Interesting things happen when Mick and Keith are together in England for extended periods. Blue and Lonesome comes to mind.
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Reply #22 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 2:59pm
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Bitch wrote on Feb 15th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
It seems like a lot of shows in your neck of the woods Gazza! Get as many Lucky Dips as you possibly can. If you want to buy pit instead, you can always sell these in a heartbeat. Secondly, once in the door if your seats suck sit somewhere open and if someone approaches just act stupid. Warning! It can be dangerous, I was thrown out and beat up once at an AC/DC concert. The other hundred times I had no problem.


Great advice!

Thanks but I wont be going to that many.  The days of me going to 5-10 shows a tour are long gone.

They're not really in my neck of the woods as each show apart from Dublin requires a flight and a night in a hotel. If I lived in England, I'd lucky dip a few gigs as expenses would be relatively minimal but each gig I go to on the mainland will cost me about £300 BEFORE I even buy a ticket.

What are they charging for a pit ticket these days anyway -
£500 - 600? There's no way on earth I'd spend that to see anyone. Even the Stones in their prime.

Even if I had that sort of money to throw around, I'd sooner give it to a homeless person as a point of principle. Honestly.

I plan to Lucky Dip Dublin and see if I can get home the same night and maybe go to the final Twickenham show with a mid-priced ticket. 
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Reply #23 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 3:21pm
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Things look to be shaping up something like this

May 17 Dublin Croke Park (subject to licence approval)

late May London (indoor shows, maybe 2-3. I note the 02 is free May 21-25 and May 29-30. The 02 is owned by AEG, who also promote the Stones....so..I could be totally off the mark with this one, but a few indoor gigs in an AEG owned venue is the only way I can see the Stones sustaining a UK tour of 10-11 shows

June 2 & 5 Manchester -  Old Trafford Football Stadium or Etihad Stadium

Then a two week gap in which I'd expect around 3 more  shows. I'd expect two of those to be in Edinburgh (Murrayfield Stadium) and Cardiff (Principality Stadium) (going by this story from a Welsh news source this morning - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/rolling-stones-looki...)

And the other one? There have been rumours of a show in Southampton (St Marys Stadium - a smaller venue of about 30,000). Although Southampton is only an hour south of London.

June 19 & 23 London Twickenham Stadium (there have definitely been licences applied for for these shows)

Also strong rumours of a small number of shows outside the British Isles. as Marseille is rumoured for June 26, I'd expect any of those to take place after June 23.  Theres also been strong indications in recent days of a concert for Warsaw, Poland.
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Lucky Dips would be the only way I would go to any shows at this point..unless extremely local to me and then maybe the normally low tier price or the parking lot lottery.



The thought that a non-VIP full price ticket can actually exceed the cost of a RT flight NYC-DUB ($450+tax) or a 3 night hotel stay ($400-$600) is just laughable to me. Imagine...a concert ticket actually can nearly double the price of a trip

"I can afford a return  flight to Europe...or a concert ticket...but I cant swing both"... Let's go get drunk
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