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Keith's currently in the studio. Word has it ..that it is for preparation for official work  / sessions with Mick and the rest of the band.


Stones are to record together in December (strong word has it ..nothing official though).


As well .. brand new album is to come next year... That part.. we are all 85-90% sure of... and that is a very 'strong' 85-90% ...




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Keith's currently in the studio. Word has it ..that it is for preparation for official work  / sessions with Mick and the rest of the band.


Stones are to record together in December (strong word has it ..nothing official though).


As well .. a brand new album is to come next year... That part.. we are all 85-90% sure of... and that is a very 'strong' 85-90%  .. ...




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Just a little tid-bit

That's the album title.
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Well then...after last year's debate ( or was it a debacle?) Ian's intell was blurry at best at the start...but we all saw in the end, things got clearer and clearer and we DID end up with L&B.

I am hopeful ( and even more confident) that this will all turn out as well.

I suggest that in as a nod to the NO FILTER tour...the new album be called NO FILLER...just give us 10 or 11 REALLY good songs and toss the other 8 in the bin. We don't need D&G pt2. I would not be opposed to bringing in a younger producer to punch out a fresher sounding single as well.

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The Keith photo was taken in New York at Germano Studios on November 29.

The Mick one is from London yesterday (probably British Grove Studios)

They're not even on the same continent. Mick is working on the Stones album in that session. Apparently, Keith is doing a contribution for Steve Jordan's band, The Verbs.

(thanks, Nico)


Just a reminder, that its now exactly TWO YEARS since the Stones hit a creative roadblock when recording their 'new' studio album and chose to record Blue & Lonesome instead.
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Gazza wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 8:16am:
The Keith photo was taken in New York at Germano Studios on November 29.

The Mick one is from London yesterday (probably British Grove Studios)

They're not even on the same continent. Mick is working on the Stones album in that session. Apparently, Keith is doing a contribution for Steve Jordan's band, The Verbs.

(thanks, Nico)


Just a reminder, that its now exactly TWO YEARS since the Stones hit a creative roadblock when recording their 'new' studio album and chose to record Blue & Lonesome instead.




Sure.. but their was no creative road block between Mick and Keith .. Just a break in tempo and in breaking things in and a creative stop / block during a single song... not an entire road block creatively between Mick and Keith all together (just wanna clarify).

B & L was born in three short days and they continued work on new original material in the same sessions and in a few sessions there after. They also continued work on the material together.


Blue & Lonesome did so surprisingly well  (especially for an album of covers) they chose to ease up on following it up according to people at the record company.


The plan is to get together ...all together very shortly to work on new material together.

I agree... it's been terribly long.. and they have taken their time ... terribly taken their time (if I would not of heard anything by Febuary of a new album .. I was gonna throw in the towel and have to grasp that it just was not gonna happen.... no kidding Gazz.. I had a three month time line .. If it would of been mid Febuary and we heard nothing of new album or studio work I was gonna call it. Just aint there.)

Ok Now the slowness has not been due to the material being hopeless or lacking or due to a huge riff between Mick and Keith. It was due to the right approach to this album in keeping <all> members happy with the results and taking it very slow.

As well .. Blue & Lonesome did so well ...and continued to do well internationally they had absolutely no pressure to get the original material out there.


Slow.. in spurts.. slow but sure ... are the buzz words for this record (very slow lol and in no rush .. in fact.. It would seem neglectful .. I agree there).

This is not directed toward you but people say my vision was blurry. It wasnt a vision .. it was what was is all. First everyone said they would never do another album .. and that they had absolutely no interest in ever recording again (well now the verdict is in on all that). We have not only had one but here's a fresh one. Like I said from the start.. they still are interested in doing more albums.. after all they are there aren't they? (and we already had one).

Things are fine. They are not in process as they did in the past.. its a different approach going in and over time but things are still fine.
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I dont recall anyone suggesting the delays were down to any personal issues.

Personally, I logged out from the on/off album drama yonks ago.  It'll be ready when its done.  Pointless speculating about it until then.
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I dont recall anyone suggesting the delays were down to any personal issues.

Personally, I logged out from the on/off album drama yonks ago.  It'll be ready when its done.  Pointless speculating about it until then.



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Ok good. I thought you were indicating there was a riff again.

I cannot blame you for logging out.. >>I<< was friggin logging out by mid February... IF we heard no new news about the album this year.

Someone mentioned 2019? I said bro ... if I / we dont get an album THIS year.. it aint happening. Even I would have to have my eyes open to that at that point and time.

If Febuary rolled around and we heard nothing about a new Stones album from them coming this year I was gonna admit.. it aint there between them. Its not gonna happen...

THANK GOODNESS things are still on plans. I hope the slow and careful approach to this one yields a great result.
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It's funny that people trot out the tired cliche of Keith being the heart and soul of the Stones, but it always appears that if it wasn't for Mick, nothing Stones related would ever happen.
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It's funny that people trot out the tired cliche of Keith being the heart and soul of the Stones, but it always appears that if it wasn't for Mick, nothing Stones related would ever happen.


Indeed. Mick has carried the Stones from Licks onwards. Anyone who cant see that hasnt been paying attention.  Its even more admirable considering many a lesser man would have bailed out after his lifelong musical partner chose to humiliate him in print.  Definitely the closest the band has come to imploding since the mid 80s.
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Gazza wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:50pm:
I dont recall anyone suggesting the delays were down to any personal issues.

Personally, I logged out from the on/off album drama yonks ago.  It'll be ready when its done.  Pointless speculating about it until then.



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Ok good. I thought you were indicating there was a riff again.

I cannot blame you for logging out.. >>I<< was friggin logging out by mid February... IF we heard no new news about the album this year.

Someone mentioned 2019? I said bro ... if I / we dont get an album THIS year.. it aint happening. Even I would have to have my eyes open to that at that point and time.

If Febuary rolled around and we heard nothing about a new Stones album from them coming this year I was gonna admit.. it aint there between them. Its not gonna happen...

THANK GOODNESS things are still on plans. I hope the slow and careful approach to this one yields a great result.



I think we'll get one by the summer OK. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.
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I think we'll get one by the summer OK. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.


Wouldn't it be something awesome (and incredibly redeeming)  if a new Stones single became the Song Of Summer for 2019?!?

Ian Billen wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:38pm:
This is not directed toward you but people say my vision was blurry. It wasnt a vision .. it was what was is all.



For the record...I never said your vision was blurry...maybe your reading comprehension...LOL...KIDDING...JOKE...anyway...what I meant was that there was nothing to confirm or deny or contradict the album news from the Stones camp...not until MONTHS later...nothing like the headers we have seen in the last few days...

It was me who said you were right on target the entire time...was it not?!?
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Gazza wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
I think we'll get one by the summer OK. I'm sure I'll enjoy it.


Wouldn't it be something awesome (and incredibly redeeming)  if a new Stones single became the Song Of Summer for 2019?!?

Ian Billen wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:38pm:
This is not directed toward you but people say my vision was blurry. It wasnt a vision .. it was what was is all.



For the record...I never said your vision was blurry...maybe your reading comprehension...LOL...KIDDING...JOKE...anyway...what I meant was that there was nothing to confirm or deny or contradict the album news from the Stones camp...not until MONTHS later...nothing like the headers we have seen in the last few days...

It was me who said you were right on target the entire time...was it not?!?



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I thought you was simply saying I was sort of vague (I had to be... I had no idea when or where but I knew they would hit the studio again health permitting). Like you said.. they made it through the 80's ..and Keiths comments on Jagger's peccar (which was a doooozy ...whew.. Keith actually for the first time in his life publicly apologize).


As for anything else ...Gazza .. my dear man and message board moderator .. I expect only greatness from you .. ...nothing less.
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Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....
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Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).
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Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented


I don't think that's correct Ian. At least for the last 20 years, Mick hates the wasted time doing nothing in studios. He always wants things done efficiently and quickly. I think part of the problem since and including Dirty Work is the speed at which each wants to finish albums.

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why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Again, I don't think that's right. Keith seems to talk a lot without any concrete plans, but it is Mick who seems to be the driving force in terms of getting things together and having a plan, not to mention seemingly being the main creative force.

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Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has).


I think that ended in the 70s. Obviously he can affect him in ways most others can't, but it looks like with Stones things, if Mick doesn't think it's right, he won't do it. I am not sure it works the other way round. There are plenty of things Keith says (i.e. Undercover would not be on 40 Licks) that Mick ignores.

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I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).


I don't think anyone has said that. Outside of the Stones, Keith has released 4 solo albums (Wingless Angels included) in 30+ years. Mick does a lot more outside of the band than Keith. In terms of the Stones, the bottom line seems to be that if Mick doesn't decide things, it won't get done. I remember Charlie saying as much in an interview.
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I don't think that's correct Ian. At least for the last 20 years, Mick hates the wasted time doing nothing in studios. He always wants things done efficiently and quickly.


I meant everyone acts as if It's Mick who gets the Stones into The Studio to do something is what I meant. I think Mick agrees and Ok's it... but I think Keith is ready whenever. Seems it is more a waiting around for Mick to commit to something as far as Keith is concerned .,.that is what I meant.
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If we're gonna have a hit song we need horns, hand claps and of course falsetto with strong backing vocals.
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Ain't that been done already ?



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Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.
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Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost.

So according to you there are all going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that? All we know is Mick had a slew of demos.

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those 'solely' (I'm sure there will be some of those on the record though).
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 11:46pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:33am:
Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost.

So according to you there are all going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that? All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos is what he is interested in on this project. Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).

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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:34am:
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 11:46pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 10:33am:
Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost.

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing all the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. we have no idea what songs are there and who wrote what Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ...
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:37am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:34am:
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 11:46pm:
[quote author=07090D0D050B050506600 link=1512192371/22#22 date=1512491620]Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost.

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is assuming based only on Micks side of the ence. In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:37am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:34am:
Gazza wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
[quote author=49616E5F42696C6C656E000 link=1512192371/23#23 date=1512539200][quote author=07090D0D050B050506600 link=1512192371/22#22 date=1512491620]Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost.

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption.

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.

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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:44am:
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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:37am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:34am:
Gazza wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
[quote author=49616E5F42696C6C656E000 link=1512192371/23#23 date=1512539200][quote author=07090D0D050B050506600 link=1512192371/22#22 date=1512491620]Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost. If you reads between the lines.. Keith is basically saying those demos were not that strong... He wasn't impressed (being prolific don't mean shit / I got only three and they are dynamite' ... He is essentially saying the songs Mick wrote were not that great and the three he wrote were much better .. Is easy to make that out)

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption.

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.


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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:45am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:44am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:37am:
[quote author=674F40716C4742424B402E0 link=1512192371/35#35 date=1514475260][quote author=6442595942230 link=1512192371/30#30 date=1513453869][quote author=49616E5F42696C6C656E000 link=1512192371/23#23 date=1512539200][quote author=07090D0D050B050506600 link=1512192371/22#22 date=1512491620]Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost. If you reads between the lines.. Keith is basically saying those demos were not that strong... He wasn't impressed (***>> 'being prolific don't mean shit / I got only three and they are dynamite' ... He is essentially saying the songs Mick wrote were not that great and the three he wrote were much better .. '. He was not impressed with Micks material .... It is is easy to make that out.)

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption.

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.


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Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:49am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:45am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:44am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:41am:
Ian Billen wrote on Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:37am:
[quote author=674F40716C4742424B402E0 link=1512192371/35#35 date=1514475260][quote author=6442595942230 link=1512192371/30#30 date=1513453869][quote author=49616E5F42696C6C656E000 link=1512192371/23#23 date=1512539200][quote author=07090D0D050B050506600 link=1512192371/22#22 date=1512491620]Ian..one thing about the horizon...you never really get there....as far as Mick no doubt he has been the leader and without his band I doubt he continues to be in the limelight and "younger chick worthy".....



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Sure you get there .. I was talking about the 'event horizon'  Cheesy


Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost. If you reads between the lines.. Keith is basically saying those demos were not that strong... He wasn't impressed (***>> 'being prolific don't mean shit / I got only three and they are dynamite' ... He is essentially saying the songs Mick wrote were not that great and the three he wrote were much better .. '. He was not impressed with Micks material .... It is is easy to make that out.)

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption. Remember .. in so many words Keith noted that while Mick wrote a bunch of demos... none were that impressive to him .. He even went on to say his mere three songs were much stronger, basically ... )

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.



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Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost. If you reads between the lines.. Keith is basically saying those demos were not that strong... He wasn't impressed (***>> 'being prolific don't mean shit / I got only three and they are dynamite' ... He is essentially saying the songs Mick wrote were not that great and the three he wrote were much better .. '. He was not impressed with Micks material .... It is is easy to make that out.)

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption. Remember .. in so many words Keith noted that while Mick wrote a bunch of demos... none were that impressive to him .. He even went on to say his mere three songs were much stronger, basically ...  From those remarks and by Keith rejecting songs in which Mick had to put out himself leads me to believe that while Mick has / had a bunch of songs he wanted to work on with the Stones... Keith wasn't so impressed and wasn't interested in them). Still I am sure some of those will make it to the album (just being real).

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.

Here is the chain of events thus far.

>>Mick has a load of songs (prolly at least 40) and he wants to use / work on em for the Stones. Don Was says there are a major slew of em and the run the gambit.

>>Keith basically says that while there are a ton Micks been writing that he isn't impressed and states hes specifically interested in 'sitting down writing together'.


>>Keith rejects two of the songs and Mick puts them out on his own (as well to test the market... they both fail for the most part).

>>Mick claims hes still writing and Keith says the continuing interest with him to to slowly make it work together.

That is where we are at and that is what we know for sure.



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Anyway .. Mick Jagger has always been the leader of The Band .. technically and at other times realistically. At times... both.

Everyone talks about how Mick is so studio oriented.. why does Keith always the one who has to push or wait for the 'ok' from Mick? Keith has not been prolific in the last 20 years.. we know that.. BUT he is always the guy pushing for The Stones to get back into the studio .. Even More so than Mick.


Keith knows how to play Mick's cards and how to get him to do things nobody else can .. (always has). I'm not saying Keith is the ruler of the band anymore.. but to say he just sits around lazy and not wanting to do anything .. while Mick does all the leading and has to round up everyone to get them into the studio or to tour is nonsense ( unfounded..).



Easy to do when its Mick who's writing almost all of the songs, in fairness.



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Well ... according to Keith that isn't the situation he wants. If you remember he mentioned he isn't so interested in Micks songs.. and that he is interested in Mick sitting down and writing 'together'.

He claimes Micks being prolific 'don't mean shit' and that he isn't interested in playing whatever to a bunch of Micks demos. He even rejected Get a Grip & England Lost. If you reads between the lines.. Keith is basically saying those demos were not that strong... He wasn't impressed (***>> 'being prolific don't mean shit / I got only three and they are dynamite' ... He is essentially saying the songs Mick wrote were not that great and the three he wrote were much better .. '. He was not impressed with Micks material .... It is is easy to make that out.)

So according to you there are all or most going to be Mick songs.. but just as well .. in fairness.. we don't know that and Keith said he isn't interested in that as a 'whole'?

All we know is Mick had a major slew of demos he wanted / wants to work on with The Stones. Keith said he isn't so interested in those ...and that 'if Mick wants to sit down and write together' versus the demos .. is what he is interested in on this project (he stated that very clearly). Keith claimed to only have three songs going in but claimed they were dynamite... 

Keith stated very very clearly he isn't interested in doing those Mick Jagger demos 'solely' on this record  (I'm sure there will be some of those whole songs or partial songs on the record though).


You are saying Mick is writing most of the songs ...Well tbh ..  thats not fair.. because that is 'assuming' based only on Micks side of the fence and simply because Mick has a major load of songs he has written (However Keith may only want to keep or work on a hand full of em is my assumption. Remember .. in so many words Keith noted that while Mick wrote a bunch of demos... none were that impressive to him .. He even went on to say his mere three songs were much stronger, basically ...  From those remarks and by Keith rejecting songs in which Mick had to put out himself leads me to believe that while Mick has / had a bunch of songs he wanted to work on with the Stones... Keith wasn't so impressed and wasn't interested in them). Still I am sure some of those will make it to the album (just being real).

In actuality we have no idea what songs are there for keeps and who wrote what that is to make the album thus far Lol. We don't even know anything about the material that is being kept or worked on ... Remember Keith said he isn't interested in playing along to a bunch of Micks demos.. I am sure he is writing stuff too.

Here is the chain of events thus far.

>>Mick has a load of songs (prolly at least 40) and he wants to use / work on em for the Stones. Don Was says there are a major slew of em and the run the gambit.

>>Keith basically says that while there are a ton Micks been writing that he isn't impressed and states hes specifically interested in 'sitting down writing together'.


>>Keith rejects two of the songs and Mick puts them out on his own (as well to test the market... they both fail for the most part).

>>Mick claims hes still writing and wants Keith to hear em to get his opinion (gotta admit.. he keeps writing.. Not sure how strong the stuff is .. but he is / has definitely been-a-writing ... ).


>>Keith says the continuing interest with him to to slowly make it work together.

That is where we are at and that is what we know for sure.



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I must be 'manic'. My bad... well not really ..because all I did was 'modify' ...as I was supposed to.

Wish I could delete all of em except the last.

My sincere apologies ... Isn't like me to foul up in this vane ... Still I think the message board SMS or the server / back-end may need a patch or updated ... All I did was choose to <modify> .. not re-post.


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I must be 'manic'. My bad... well not really ..because all I did was 'modify' ...as I was supposed to.

Wish I could delete all of em except the last.

My sincere apologies ... Isn't like me to foul up in this vane ... Still I think the message board SMS or the server / back-end may need a patch or updated ... All I did was choose to <modify> .. not re-post.


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From the upcoming Rolling Stone issue.


Article title is 'Stones in the studio' .. and Keith says they are readying a new really good original album. Keith also states the sessions with Mick have been really fun. Article / snippet (which is a tiny .. tiny thing) starts out in saying 2018 may be the year for the long awaited follow up to A Bigger Bang.


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I dont know anyone who wants A Bigger Bang pt II... Shocked Shocked Shocked...but I understand what they are trying to say... Let's go get drunk

I like how many artists now just release 1 -3 songs/year...they tend to be good and loyal to their fan base...I thought Jagger was on to something with GGaG/England Lost...he felt it...recorded it and released it in 3 months (along 3 remixed versions and videos too!!)...Done...NEXT...
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It will be interesting if any of them show up for the Grammys. I can't imagine Charlie showing up but I wonder if they use this to get their names out there if they win. I doubt any will show up if they are not told that they will win beforehand. But if they do, I think it's safe to assume that they won't take advantage of the exposure unless one of them happens to be in New York.
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You must be thinking about  the 60 Licks compilation package...with 2 new songs...written on the way to the studio plus lots of exclusives for the "real fans"


Yep. 'Beast of Burden', 'Emotional rescue' and 'Miss You' will all be edited in slightly different places than they were on '40 Licks' and that more recent compilation which had a title so fucking ridiculous that I refuse to utter or type it.  And to make it a completely essential purchase, five seconds will be shaved off the fadeout of 'Satisfaction'
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You must be thinking about  the 60 Licks compilation package...with 2 new songs...written on the way to the studio plus lots of exclusives for the "real fans"


Yep. 'Beast of Burden', 'Emotional rescue' and 'Miss You' will all be edited in slightly different places than they were on '40 Licks' and that more recent compilation which had a title so fucking ridiculous that I refuse to utter or type it.  And to make it a completely essential purchase, five seconds will be shaved off the fadeout of 'Satisfaction'




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By this pace .. In another two or three years we should have a release.. .. ..



You must be thinking about  the 60 Licks compilation package...with 2 new songs...written on the way to the studio plus lots of exclusives for the "real fans"


Yep. 'Beast of Burden', 'Emotional rescue' and 'Miss You' will all be edited in slightly different places than they were on '40 Licks' and that more recent compilation which had a title so fucking ridiculous that I refuse to utter or type it.  And to make it a completely essential purchase, five seconds will be shaved off the fadeout of 'Satisfaction'




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What song was that in on there btw? I forget (I just know it was like a sick joke). IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII can edit better than that... MUCH better and I'm not kidding... So How on earth could a Stones release have something so ridiculous??



I'll give you a clue. You're reading a website named after it.

It wasnt a sick joke. No one would deliberately put a glitch on an official record.  Its quite evident that no one in the band listened to it before sanctioning its release.

When you consider that fact plus the reality that the guitar overdubs on the 'Biggest Bang' DVD box were done by two guitar techs (they even credited them on the sleeve!), it speaks volumes about how little they care about these things.

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