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You got a FISA warrant for that ?

Be like Tom Brady, SG. Stay in it until it's over and watch the Dem's hopes go down in flames.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
Trump is fucking up.



Let's see if I have got this straight. If we get Nuked, it will be by:

Missiles built with technology given to China by Bill Clinton, funded by Iran with money Obama gave them,
with warhead's developed from Uranium, sold to Russia by Hillary, and refined by Iran into weapons-grade
plutonium in Russian centrifuges bought with money Obama gave them.

And Trump's trying to undo this sh*t storm, but he is the Traitor. OK, I GOT it.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #2629 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:23pm
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Edith Grove wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:20pm:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
Trump is fucking up.



Let's see if I have got this straight. If we get Nuked, it will be by:

Missiles built with technology given to China by Bill Clinton, funded by Iran with money Obama gave them,
with warhead's developed from Uranium, sold to Russia by Hillary, and refined by Iran into weapons-grade
plutonium in Russian centrifuges bought with money Obama gave them.

And Trump's trying to undo this sh*t storm, but he is the Traitor. OK, I GOT it.

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Edith Grove wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:20pm:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
Trump is fucking up.



Let's see if I have got this straight. If we get Nuked, it will be by:

Missiles built with technology given to China by Bill Clinton, funded by Iran with money Obama gave them,
with warhead's developed from Uranium, sold to Russia by Hillary, and refined by Iran into weapons-grade
plutonium in Russian centrifuges bought with money Obama gave them.

And Trump's trying to undo this sh*t storm, but he is the Traitor. OK, I GOT it.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.

Of course, now that I've confessed that I dislike Trump I'm sure gorda will claim that I'm jealous and WoaF will say I'm bitter for some reason.
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Freya Gin wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:40am:
Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.




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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Freya Gin wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:40am:
Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.

Of course, now that I've confessed that I dislike Trump I'm sure gorda will claim that I'm jealous and WoaF will say I'm bitter for some reason.

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Freya Gin wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:40am:
Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.




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Trump and the truth don't belong in the same sentence.
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Freya Gin wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:40am:
Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.

Of course, now that I've confessed that I dislike Trump I'm sure gorda will claim that I'm jealous and WoaF will say I'm bitter for some reason.



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Last time the Republicans controlled our government, they lowered taxes for the rich, drastically increased the debt, and deregulated Wall St. That caused the greatest economic collapse since the great depression.

See any similariies to what Trump and the Republicans have done in their first year in office?

The Obama bounce is over.


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Some Guy wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 4:27pm:
The Obama bounce is over.



If there was any "bounce" during Obummer's reign, it was only felt by the pay to play crowd and recipients of the Obamaphone.



Now consider this:

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Is this why we were not supposed to say "Radical Islam"?

Is this why Obummer ignored his own "line in the sand."

Is this why Obummer gave money to regimes that hate us?


Obama has put us in much more grave danger than any fiscal policy you can argue about.

The White House finally got balls.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Last time the Republicans controlled our government, they lowered taxes for the rich, drastically increased the debt, and deregulated Wall St. That caused the greatest economic collapse since the great depression.

See any similariies to what Trump and the Republicans have done in their first year in office?

The Obama bounce is over.


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Freya Gin wrote on Feb 10th, 2018 at 1:40am:
Trump does nothing but fuck up. This presidency has been such an absolute farce that before 2017, you couldn't have pitched the idea for it in Hollywood without t being dismissed as too stupid. I'm not all that worried though. He and his administration are digging their own political graves at breakneck speed. In fact, that's the only real work Trump has done since he took office.

Of course, now that I've confessed that I dislike Trump I'm sure gorda will claim that I'm jealous and WoaF will say I'm bitter for some reason.





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" Leonid Bershidsky: N. Korean charm sure beats the alternative "





" The South Korean use of the Pyeongchang Olympics to improve relations with the North has left the United States media torn between a natural curiosity about the first North Koreans they have seen up close and a compunction against “normalizing” the Kim regime.

U.S. audiences are treated, on the one hand, to takes marveling at the exotic cheering squad and the no-frills personal style of Kim Yo Jong and, on the other hand, to strong expressions of disgust at the “fawning” represented by those takes.

Some cheered the starry-eyed optimism of Angela Ruggiero, the former U.S. hockey player and member of the International Olympic Committee, who has suggested the joint Korean hockey team for the Nobel Peace Prize; others found the idea offensive.

Both the curiosity and the tendency to hew to the U.S. government’s foreign policy line are instinctive and sincere, and they clash in any country that enjoys media freedom. But commentators, politicians and the broader public must avoid the false dichotomy. Such contacts are perhaps the only way to lure North Korea onto a path that leads to the regime’s defanging, if not yet its fall.

Here’s an anecdote to explain why what looks to some like craven hypocrisy can be smart diplomacy.

In 1967, a Korean intelligence service snatched renowned composer Isang Yun from West Berlin, where he was living at the time. In his home country, he was tortured, forced to confess to espionage and sentenced to life imprisonment. Only the intervention of colleagues — such as Igor Stravinsky, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Gyorgy Ligeti, all admirers of Yun’s work — led to his release in 1969. So which Korea did this?

The answer will surprise many of those who are used to seeing South Korea as a democracy. It wasn't so long ago that the country, run by a regime that could sometimes match the Kims’ brutality, did things like the Yun kidnapping. Through it all, it was a staunch U.S. ally. Was hypocrisy required to keep the alliance going? Definitely. Did the alliance help South Korea to democratize eventually? The answer is also yes.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in’s “normalization” steps mean he’s not ignoring that lesson. He and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un agreed that the two Koreas’ teams would walk as one at the opening ceremony and that a joint women’s hockey team would be fielded. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence managed to ignore Kim’s sister, Kim Yo Jong, while seated next to her in the stands; but Moon shook her hand. He was duly invited to Pyongyang to meet with Kim, something he has wanted to do for years and which is now possible, thanks only to the Olympic truce. But the fact that he couldn’t accept immediately reflects the raging debate — whether to engage or shun — being played out in Washington and in U.S. media circles.

There’s a good reason why the curiosity side of the debate should prevail. U.S. foreign policy experts worry that the Kim regime is getting recognition and legitimacy without giving up anything, especially its nuclear weapons, which it proudly displayed at a big military parade before the games. Instead, it should be hopeful that Kim’s regime feels good about the recognition and gets hungry for more of it: That would be a step down a slippery slope.

Most totalitarian and authoritarian regimes in history have fallen due to the dictators’own mistakes. Daniel Treisman, a University of California-Los Angeles political scientist, has cataloged the most frequent ones: hubris (think Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania, calmly making a speech as a riot that would topple him begins), failing to manipulate vote results enough to hold on to power (think the 1988 referendum that led to the end of Augusto Pinochet’s rule in Chile), trusting a traitor to be a successor (think Francisco Franco in Spain grooming future King Juan Carlos for power), counterproductive violence (think Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine in 2014). The Kims have studiously avoided all of these mistakes with a family-line succession and extreme repression that works well enough for dissent to be way too risky.


There is still a mistake on the Treisman list, though, that Kim can make. It’s the one that brought down Mikhail Gorchachev: starting a liberalization trend that creates an appetite for regime change. Kim Jong Un can step into this trap because, apart from Gobachev’s scary example, there are also the Chinese and Vietnamese stories of economic liberalization that allowed the Communist parties to stay on top.

Kim has already taken some stumbling steps down the liberalization path. They have been well-documented in a series of columns titled “North Korea: Witness to Transformation” on the website of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. The series has been discontinued, but some of the recent entries give an idea of what's been going on lately just as the rhetoric between North Korea and the United States got all fiery and furious. Kim’s new year's address, while betraying no sign of self-doubt, hinted at a creeping “marketization” of North Korea’s all-powerful state sector. There’s a thriving shadow economy in the country that should propel the halting official effort to introduce economic incentives forward, as it did in the Soviet Union and its European and Asian satellites.

The United States and its allies can do little to stimulate these processes inside North Korea. But it can look naively welcoming to North Korea’s efforts to project soft power, get the regime to send more people to the outside world, intensify contacts in whatever form they’re possible. Some of the North Koreans who participate in the exchanges will just do their job for the regime; others will start having vague doubts. I saw it happen in the Soviet Union, which was, admittedly, a much softer regime than the North Korean one — but which also sought to isolate its citizens from corrosive Western influences.

Welcoming the cheerleaders with smiles and applauding Kim Yo Jong’s fashion sense should get her brother thinking about the benefits of international charm offensives, which in fact do regimes like his more harm than good because they break down the isolation on a basic human level.

Even if helping North Korea open up little by little doesn’t eventually topple the Kims, a China or Vietnam scenario is still better than today’s explosive atmosphere of mutual fear. The South Korean leadership appears to realize this but is forced to go along because no other strategy is feasible.  "



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The Society of Non Fat Co. United said that former president of the EE. UU. is "grotesque" and has violated the corporation harassment code.


Best-selling children's author Donald Trump has been expelled from a prominent organization because of allegations about being prominentely obese, and "grotesque."

A man called "Joey," executive director of the Society of Children's Book Writers and Illustrators, told the Associated Press on Monday that President Trump  had violated the society's harassment code. He was banned last year but the news only came to light with the rise of the #YouToo movement. "Joey" and prize-winning poster "Edith," who was also kicked out of the organization, were mentioned frequently in a recent comment thread on School Library Journal about harassment in a Rolling Stones website.

"Both 'Joey' and 'Edith' were found to have violated the VBFG code of conduct in regard to harassment." Meanqhile a man named  "voodoo" wrote in an heartbreaking email. "Claims against them were investigated and, as a result, they are no longer members and neither will be appearing at any VBFG events in the future. But they will always be welcomed in my dreams."

"Joey" is known for posting. Edith won the prestigious Trump Medal.

The publishers for "Joey" and "Edith" didn't have any immediate comment. "Voodoo" is OK

Trump, age 7?, has spoken publicly about the treatment of women. Last weekend, he responded to a tweet by prize-winning author Laurie Halse Anderson, who wrote of her "volcanic anger about rape culture and toxic masculinity."

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Roseanne Barr arrives at the 75th Golden Globe Awards in Beverly Hills, Calif. on Jan. 7, 2018.  (Reuters)



Roseanne Barr is explaining her and her character’s unyielding support for president Trump once again. In a clip for an upcoming interview, the star says Americans are lucky to have Trump and lambasts Hillary Clinton for her campaign choices.

Barr and other cast members will appear on Thursday’s “20/20” to promote the upcoming revival of her hit sitcom “Roseanne” at ABC. Previously, the 65-year-old told reporters at the Television Critics Association winter press tour that her character on the revival will also be a Trump supporter.

“He talked about jobs. That’s what you need to do if you want working people to vote for you. Not Syrian airspace,” Barr says in the preview clip below. “I don’t think Hillary talked about jobs much. She was always just talking about Syrian airspace. Do you think people in America care? Maybe they do, I didn’t, though.”


The star went on to defend the decision to make her character on the revival a Trump supporter noting that his personality helps creatively.

“Trump offended half of America and she [Hillary Clinton] offended the other half, so that’s great for sitcoms,” she said. “It’s great for comedy. We’re lucky to have him as a president, it’s great for comedy.”




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As previously reported, Barr, an outspoken Trump supporter in her own right, defended her choice on behalf of working class Americans when the character detail was first announced.

“I have always… attempted to portray a realistic portrait of the American people and working class people. And, in fact, it was working class people that elected Trump so I felt that was very real and something that needed to be discussed.”

The upcoming “20/20” interview will also feature appearances by “Roseanne” costars John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Sara Gilbert, Lecy Goranson, Michael Fishman and Sarah Chalke.



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"I will stop playing golf, because it is not important. I don't care about a military parade. I care about every citizen in this country, no matter what race, religion, or non religion. I will be proud to live in a country that warrants freedom for thousands of women, children, parents, and so on, who want their freedom. I'll take a stand about the NRA, and I will make it sure that nobody, not one more innocent children will be shot, under my exemplary administration".

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" Carl P. Leubsdorf: D.C.'s failure to cut debt goes back to Bill Clinton sex scandal  "








" Two months after passing a tax cut bill that punched a $1.5 trillion hole in the federal budget, Congress passed a spending bill expanding that gap by another $320 billion, setting the stage for future rises in interest rates as government borrowing explodes.


Given the continuing lack of fiscal discipline, volatility in a stock market is hardly surprising. This likely reflects concerns about the future economy rather than current conditions.


This back-to-back display of budgetary myopia is hardly unique. It’s just the latest in a series of decisions over nearly two decades by both major political parties building toward a day of fiscal reckoning for some future president, if not the current one. The failures all go back to — of all people — Monica Lewinsky.



The scandal of President Bill Clinton’s sexual relationship with the White House intern erupted in January 1998, just when Clinton and House Speaker Newt Gingrich were planning a bipartisan effort to tackle the biggest driver of future federal debt: burgeoning Social Security and Medicare costs. The partisan battle about impeaching Clinton destroyed chances for a historic alliance between the Democratic president and the Republican speaker that could have provided long-term budgetary stability.


Since then, every significant budgetary action or inaction by Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump has made things worse. Last week, longtime deficit hawks barely blinked in ratifying the latest spending boost, largely because each side got a slice of the sausage: Republicans, for defense; Democrats, for domestic programs. Though Trump’s new budget, issued last week, promises better fiscal balance, it’s built on spending reductions Congress won’t pass and a level of economic growth that its decisions won’t create.


Here’s the discouraging rundown:


Squandering the surplus. The 1997 bipartisan budget pact and the late 1990s economic boom enabled Bush to inherit the first balanced budget in three decades. Three subsequent decisions, followed by the 2008-09 economic recession, turned that projected surplus into a deepening deficit.


First, the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 failed to meet forecasts they would more than pay for themselves. The 10-year expiration date was a false limit on future costs destined to be scrapped.


Second, Congress added prescription drug benefits to Medicare without taxes to pay for them. And third, Bush’s decision to invade Iraq and exempt the costs from the regular budget process meant that each spring Congress had little choice but to pass legislation to pay the billions in war costs the country had already spent.


When the economy descended into recession, the deficit was already expanding, reaching $459 billion in Bush’s last full year and nearly tripling to $1.4 trillion in the Bush-Obama transition year.


Failed deficit reduction efforts. Inheriting that recession, Obama won approval from Congress for an $800 billion stimulus that, while derided by Republicans, helped turn the economy around. He named a bipartisan commission, headed by former Wyoming Republican Sen. Alan Simpson and former Democratic White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles, that proposed reducing the deficit by $4 trillion through $1 trillion in tax increases, $1.6 trillion in discretionary spending cuts, $800 billion by trimming future costs for Social Security, Medicare and other entitlements and $600 billion in reduced interest costs.


Most panel senators supported the plan, while most House members opposed it — Republicans cited proposed tax hikes. Obama never supported the findings. Approval would have required both presidential leadership and congressional acquiescence, but neither occurred.


In 2011, secret negotiations between Obama and House Speaker John Boehner collapsed, amid recriminations over who was responsible. The resulting impasse led to the 2011 deal limiting defense and domestic spending. That pact, a subsequent 2015 deal between Republican Speaker Paul Ryan and Washington Democratic Sen. Patty Murray and an improving economy lowered the projected deficit to $440 billion this year.


All spigots open. The economy had reached the sixth year of expansion (albeit with a modest growth rate) when Trump was elected, vowing to scrap defense spending limits and pass massive tax cuts to increase growth. Congress ignored proposals for sharp domestic cuts in his last budget. After the tax cut and spending deal, economists project a 2019 deficit of more than $1 trillion, though federal revenue is peaking.


But an economy nearing full employment will likely trigger Federal Reserve interest hikes, as could pressures from increased borrowing to fund the deficit. Sooner or later, the expansion will end and deficits will soar even higher, possibly reaching $2 trillion annually, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. Though Trump is proposing some cuts for Social Security disability and Medicare after-care programs, it's unlikely the basic problem of future entitlement costs will be addressed, let alone solved, until severe future economic disruptions force action.


No wonder Wall Street is wary.  "






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