Some Guy wrote on Sep 20^th, 2017 at 10:14am:


what happened to that place? was it hacked?

Some Guy wrote on Sep 20^th, 2017 at 10:14am:

Some Guy wrote on Sep 20^th, 2017 at 11:16am:

leonid wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 10:15pm:





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http://www.omaha.com/opinion/eugene-robinson-time-for-political-rethinking/artic...








" Leaders of both major parties are wrong to think of the 2016 election as some kind of fluke. I believe a political realignment is underway, and those who fail to discern its outlines could end up powerless and irrelevant.

With all respect to Hillary Clinton, her newly published memoir, “What Happened,” doesn’t really tell what happened. It is perhaps inevitable that she would focus on the daily twists and turns of the campaign. It is understandable that she would blame James B. Comey, Vladimir Putin and the media for damaging her prospects — and that she would play down her own strategic and tactical missteps.

But take a step back and look at the election through a wider lens. Clinton, with all her vast experience and proven ability, was defeated by Donald Trump, a reality-television star who had never before run for office, displayed near-total ignorance of the issues, broke every rule of political rhetoric and was caught on videotape bragging of how he sexually assaulted random women by grabbing their crotches.

That’s not just unlikely, it’s impossible. At least it should have been, according to everything we knew — or thought we knew — about politics. Yes, Comey’s last-minute revival of Clinton’s email scandal robbed her of momentum. Yes, her neglect of the Rust Belt was a terrible mistake. Yes, the Russians were working hard to defeat her, with the blessing — and at least the attempted collusion — of the Trump campaign.

But the election never should have been close enough for relatively minor voting shifts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania to elect the likes of Trump. The election never should have been close enough for Clinton to lose Florida and barely eke out a win in Virginia.

At an event promoting her new book on Sept. 18, former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton joked that she also ran against Russian President Vladimir Putin in the 2016 election. (Photo: Melina Mara/The Washington Post)
In retrospect, the alarming possibility of an election-night surprise should have been apparent. Trump never should have won the Republican nomination over a field that included so many talented politicians. And Clinton never should have had to work so hard to win the Democratic nomination over Bernie Sanders, an aging socialist from Vermont who wasn’t even a Democrat until he entered the race.

None of what happened should have happened. And it is a mistake to blame Clinton’s character flaws, Trump’s mastery of Twitter or the media’s compulsion to chase every bright, shiny object. Something much bigger and deeper was going on.

My view is that the traditional left-to-right, progressive-to-conservative, Democratic-to-Republican political axis that we’re all so familiar with is no longer a valid schematic of American political opinion. And I believe neither party has the foggiest idea what the new diagram looks like.

I don’t think Trump can see the new spectrum either, as evidenced by the way his approval ratings have plunged since his inauguration. But both he and Sanders deserve credit for seeing that the old model has outlived its usefulness.

Look at the issues on which Trump and Sanders were in basic agreement. Both doubted the bipartisan consensus favoring free-trade agreements, arguing they had disadvantaged U.S. workers. Both spoke of health care as a right that should be enjoyed by all citizens. Both pledged to strengthen, not weaken, entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare. Both were deeply skeptical of U.S. involvement in foreign wars, vowing to do their nation-building here at home. Both advocated mammoth, job-creating investments in infrastructure. Both contended “the system” was rigged to favor the rich and powerful at the expense of everyone else.

Leave aside for the moment the fact that Trump has not fulfilled his promises. The overlap in what he and Sanders said they would do is striking — as is the contrast between what Clinton and Trump’s GOP rivals were saying.

Trump was uniquely transgressive on one issue — immigration. He addressed the anxieties of white working-class voters by presenting immigrants as all-purpose scapegoats.

The Trump and Sanders campaigns revealed that there are large numbers of voters whose views are not being reflected by Democratic or Republican orthodox positions. Are the parties adapting? Democrats seem to be inching toward support of truly universal health care, while Republicans have thus far thought better of taking health insurance away from millions of people. Perhaps this is a start.

But I see no evidence yet that either party is engaged in the kind of fundamental rethinking I believe is called for. So it is a mistake to assume that Trump is necessarily a one-term president or that Sanders is done politically. You know the saying: In the land of the blind, a one-eyed man is king.  "

Joey wrote on Sep 20^th, 2017 at 9:27pm:



the hack and decline in viewers have humiliated JB. facebook strategies might work but a return to the board seems remote

Pdog wrote on Sep 21^st, 2017 at 2:19pm:


Once he writes his tell all book...he won't have to worry about working again...in more ways then one

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-kaepernick-alabama-rally_us_59c5b050e4...

He's got time for another twitter war this time the NFL? How about some work being done ...like maybe Puerto Rico?

What happened with Shidobee??? 

The politics thread and the NFL thread have morphed---

Take the knee up your rocket.

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" Otto Warmbier's parents recall how he was ‘howling,’ ‘jerking violently’ when they reunited after North Korea prison release  "

The parents of Otto Warmbier recalled the optimism they felt when they learned their son was being released from a prison in North Korea during their first interview, three months after their son’s death.

Fred and Cindy Warmbier told Fox and Friends they knew their son was in a coma, but hoped medical care in the United States would be enough to save Otto. As soon as they boarded the plane that carried him back to the United States, however, they were met with “howling, this involuntary, inhuman sound.”

At that point, both Otto’s mother and younger sister ran from the plane.



The 22-year-old’s fever spiked to 104 degrees and he died June 19 at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center — days after he was returned home from a prison in North Korea.

“To see how he came home was almost too much for us,” Cindy told Fox. “I almost passed out, but I got it together and I rode in the ambulance with him because I did not want him to be alone anymore.”

He was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment with hard labor after being convicted of trying to steal a propaganda poster from his hotel. In June, Rex Tillerson announced Otto's release. North Korean officials told American officials that Otto had contracted botulism and then fell into a coma after taking a sleeping pill.

Medical officials in the U.S. said scans showed extensive loss of brain tissue, consistent with cardiac arrest that deprived the brain of oxygen.

They’re still unsure what prompted the cardiac arrest, but did not see any evidence of botulism.

The Warmbiers explained that they’d hoped to stay out of the spotlight and heal, “but now we see North Korea claiming to be a victim, and that the world is picking on them,” Fred explained.

Trump finally tweets about Puerto Rico. Things are good it's their fault. Some banks are owed money. Has he been there to show support? Golf courses closed so we know the answer.

The Stoads are in Barcy .
It's terribly claaasy if occaionally farcey.
Gawds luv their groove.