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Whaddaya mean "got?" Like it just now got stupid?
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I never cease to be amazed at what some sore-losers will do, and for thinking they might be able to effect some kind of change for doing so.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Whaddaya mean "got?" Like it just now got stupid?
This stuff has been fomenting since about 2am, November 9.

I never cease to be amazed at what some sore-losers will do, and for thinking they might be able to effect some kind of change for doing so.



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The " Velvet Hammer " was on Morning Joe Today !!!!!  It was Great to see him again  ( A Star Player behind the Reagan and Bush41 Presidencies )   :



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He ( Baker ) said some very nice things about President Trump ( ' Dear Leader !  ' )  Definitely one of the '  Wise Men   ' .

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Whaddaya mean "got?" Like it just now got stupid?
This stuff has been fomenting since about 2am, November 9.

I never cease to be amazed at what some sore-losers will do, and for thinking they might be able to effect some kind of change for doing so.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-tweets-vs-the-world-1496270001


" Trump’s Tweets vs. the World  "

" Washington’s politics are becoming the politics of the campus. Argument is irrelevant, opposition is everything.  "



By Daniel Henninger




" Rumor has it—rumor being the lingua franca in Washington these days—that the dumping of White House communications director Mike Dubke is the first step in a White House reorganization. The goal is to elevate the administration’s accomplishments, which the president believes, and rightly so, are being smothered in their cribs by a hostile media.

Against this relentless opposition, the president on Wednesday morning deployed a tweet about his agenda: “Hopefully Republican Senators, good people all, can quickly get together and pass a new (repeal & replace) HEALTHCARE bill. Add saved $’s.”

The Trump presidency is on three parallel tracks: the Trump tweet track, the Trump-Russia track and the Trump policy track. What lies beyond the horizon is either a successful presidency or a train wreck. As always, the choice of which track is in the hands of Engineer Trump.


Despite their often harsh content, I’ve come to discover an endearing political innocence in Mr. Trump’s tweets. Underappreciated by the person behind @realDonaldTrump is how these new media formats have transformed the world of American politics in a way that is beyond the reach of any White House communications staff.

The cauldron of new media—which operates now on about a 10-minute news cycle—has boiled down Washington into pure political extract. The details of public policy, Mr. Trump’s or anyone else’s, disappear into the vapors. What’s left has become a kind of political crack, and the Trump tweets only feed the habit. Every “fake news” tweet does nothing but take the media’s delirium higher.

A case study in the new anti-content politics was on display last week during Speaker Paul Ryan’s press conference. Challenged on the fairness of the Republican health-care bill, Mr. Ryan gave several minutes of detail about the bill’s provisions on state waivers, risk pools, catastrophic illnesses, pre-existing conditions and premiums as an alternative to ObamaCare. To which the next question was: But won’t premiums go up? He replied, “I just answered that question.” Maybe the press conference really should die.

In the new world of synthesized politics, policy substance exists only as a walk-on character in the melodrama. Would anyone notice if they reversed the White House reporters sitting in front of Sean Spicer and the White House reporters in front of Melissa McCarthy on “Saturday Night Live”?

Somehow Mr. Trump holds the charming belief that he should get an exemption from this surrealism. He will not and never will. Washington’s politics are becoming the politics of the campus. Argument is irrelevant, opposition is everything.

Exhibit A: the Paris climate accord. A Trump policy showing signs of success—if success means producing jobs inside a growing economy—is the effort by him and his EPA administrator, Scott Pruitt, to deregulate energy markets. But if Mr. Trump withdraws from the Paris accord because its goals conflict with his jobs goals, the dire headlines will be on a scale with the invasion of Pearl Harbor.

A Trump decision against Paris will exist only as a political catastrophe, a break with “more than 190 countries” just as the details of the entire Trump trip to Europe last week were reduced to one thing—NATO’s Article 5.

It is conventional wisdom that Donald Trump is a unique political outsider, almost a loner who uses the new media of Twitter to rage against establishments everywhere.

The reality is that the substance of the Trump presidency on energy, education, taxes, regulation or America’s foreign role doesn’t square with the standard liberal political model dominant since the Supreme Court decided Bush v. Gore in 2000. They’re giving him what they gave George Bush, which is credit for nothing. It is not new.

The danger for Donald Trump is that unless he reorients his energies—away from the fake-news obsession and toward executing his agenda—he becomes marginalized.

Swaths of the media do have a credibility problem with much of the public. But that no longer matters, because many media platforms have decided to set aside nominal standards of objectivity and turn partisanship and resistance into a business model, pitching their coverage to half the electorate and ignoring the rest as commercially irrelevant.

Mr. Trump keeps saying they should thank him because he’s building their audiences. This misapprehends what is taking place now. They are turning the angry Trump tweets and indeed Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation into pure political entertainment for their customers. They will make Donald Trump their tweeting dancing bear, if he lets them.

If the goal of any conceivable White House reorganization is to defeat these forces on their own terms, that is not going to happen. This presidency will win on policy success or fall on wretched political excess. A rightly organized Trump White House would keep or hire people who understand the difference, and toss out the rest.  "
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You really like the Huff Post, doncha ?  LOL


Thank you Mr. President for keeping another campaign promise by not agreeing to another bad deal "negotiated" by our previous President.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Telecaster prophesied his return from beyond.  When America became great, he said.  That was his deal here.  His return from the dead like this is unparalled.  The only person I can think roughly analogous is Lazarus (see John 11:38-44), or for those non-Biblicalists, when Aerosmiff resurrected in the 80s.
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Telecaster prophesied his return from beyond.  When America became great, he said.  That was his deal here.  His return from the dead like this is unparalled.  The only person I can think roughly analogous is Lazarus (see John 11:38-44), or for those non-Biblicalists, when Aerosmiff resurrected in the 80s.




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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-news-you-didnt-hear-1496358236




" The News You Didn’t Hear "

" Reporters only want to talk about Russia, instead of what Team Trump is getting done.  "



By Kimberley A. Strassel



" Here is what Americans this week were told counted as “news”: Jared Kushner’s past meetings. Russians. James Comey’s upcoming testimony. Russians. Hillary Clinton’s latest conspiracy theories. Russians. Bob Mueller’s as-yet-nonexistent investigation (into Russians). Kathy Griffin, Mr. Met and, of course, “covfefe.” Total words printed on these subjects? At least a duodecillion.

Here’s what actually happened this week, the “news” that holds real consequences for real Americans:

• Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke signed an order to begin reopening Alaska’s National Petroleum Reserve to oil and gas exploration, reversing the Obama administration’s ideologically driven 2013 shutdown. The order even aims at opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to production—a move that is decades overdue. This could not only buck up the listless Alaskan economy but cement the U.S. as an oil and gas powerhouse.

• In related news, the Dakota Access Pipeline finally went live.

• The Fish and Wildlife Service took steps that may stop the Obama administration’s last-minute endangered-species listing for the Texas Hornshell, a freshwater mussel. That listing, based on outdated science, threatens significant harm to the Texas economy and was done over the protest of state officials and local industry.

• Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross surprisingly said that he was open to completing the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, or TTIP, a far-reaching trade agreement being negotiated with the European Union.

• Sen. John Thune, the upper chamber’s third-ranking Republican, said his caucus had moved beyond meetings and on to “drafting” the base language of an ObamaCare replacement. The No. 2 Republican, John Cornyn, vowed the Senate would “absolutely” have a bill by “the end of July at the latest.”

And on and on. The Environmental Protection Agency stayed crushing regulations. The U.S. tested the first ground-based system for intercepting ballistic missiles. New numbers showed the private economy adding a rip-roaring 253,000 jobs in May.

Who is to blame for this real-news blackout? The press, obviously. But the co-culprit: Donald Trump.

Americans know that much of the mainstream media is biased in how it presents stories. The dirty little secret is that journalists’ far greater power rests in what they choose to—or not to—report. The country is no better informed about exactly how Russia interfered in the election than it was in October, when intelligence agencies issued a statement expressing their belief that Moscow had helped hack emails. Not a single useful fact has since been added, nor a single investigation completed, nor a single official report produced. Until those inquiries are completed, we will have no new real facts. Yet every day, a new Russia story.

Few expect better from today’s ratings-obsessed media. Especially given its new mission of working with Democrats and Never Trumpers to take down a presidency. That means spewing strategic leaks and suppositions, which create new controversies, which are spun into yet more distant scandals. We are these days reading exposes about former national security adviser Mike Flynn’s work for a Turkish businessman, which is utterly removed from the original question of Russian “collusion.”

The result is a surreal situation in which the near-hysterical press coverage of Trump the man (and potential Russian operative) is utterly divorced from the substantive actions his administration takes or the progress it makes. Mr. Trump’s cabinet, which includes some of the best reformers in the conservative world, is methodically implementing a far-reaching deregulatory agenda. Congress is moving ahead on key promises.

Thus Mr. Trump’s culpability. The president knows better than most the ills of the media; he rails about them constantly. Yet he continues to be the indulger in chief. He daily provides new, explosive tweets that give reporters every excuse to keep up their obsessions about Russia, Mr. Comey, Hillary, Carter Page.

Mr. Trump’s Twitter handle may be the most powerful communications tool on the planet. He has the awesome ability, unlike any president in history, to force the press to focus on his agenda by putting it out into the world every morning (or late night, as it may be). He could use that tool to set the daily discussion. Instead, he’s using it to undermine his own administration.


Mr. Trump also has at his disposal an array of famous surrogates who could spread his message. He has all the free media he could ever hope for, if only he used it in a strategic fashion. He has activist groups to help push for his reforms, but they can’t compete amid the crazy headlines.

Team Trump owes it to voters to get the real news out about its agenda and successes. But that will require doing more than complaining about the press. This White House needs to set and define the daily debate. It’s that, or Russia headlines through 2018.
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You really like the Huff Post, doncha ?  LOL


Thank you Mr. President for keeping another campaign promise by not agreeing to another bad deal "negotiated" by our previous President.


It wasn't a deal, regulations or enforced... Get informed or get lost.
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You really like the Huff Post, doncha ?  LOL


Thank you Mr. President for keeping another campaign promise by not agreeing to another bad deal "negotiated" by our previous President.


It wasn't a deal, regulations or enforced... Get informed or get lost.

Not much chance of the first one.................
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It wasn't a deal, regulations or enforced... Get informed or get lost.


Anything that requires an agreement between two or more parties can be referred to as a "deal" whether it's formal or not.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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I hear you, GypMoFo.  Calling it like you see it, in the age of Trump.  While the rest of these bozos punkwalk like T. Woods on wahwah juice, you and I spread The Word.  Because NO one knows when Him come calling . . . .




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" Two bad options on North Korea: Acceptance or War   "


by Craig Snyder


" The Trump administration’s approach to the deadly serious problem of North Korea is the worst of all possible formulations. It is Teddy Roosevelt, turned upside down – “Speak loudly, and pretend to carry a big stick.”

What the administration wants is absolutely the ideal objective, to prevent North Korea from acquiring the capability to launch nuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missiles at the United States. This has been the “red line” objective of the last several administrations. And they have all wished to do this without using force.

But the means being discussed, such as putting North Korea back on the list of state sponsors of terrorism (“sticks and stones may break my bones…”), banning the North Korean airline from flying places it will never fly anyway, and banning the import of North Korean seafood (seriously?), are almost comically insufficient to the problem. Then there’s the “armada,” 3,500 miles away, but, maybe, on the way. These things, and other non-military options which might be considered, all pale by comparison to both the carrots and sticks that have already been used by prior presidents.

The hope that President Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson can persuade China to exercise maximum leverage against North Korea — perhaps shutting off energy supplies, or stopping the regime  from reaching nuclear ICBM capability through sanctions-backed diplomacy, while also preventing it from “going out with a bang” if it thought it would be stopped — is almost certainly a mirage. Likewise, even the best offensive cyber-wafare operations can do little more than slow down the march toward nuclear capability against us.

Even limited preemptive military action won’t work. How could merely wounding and cornering a fierce animal not lead to a rageful last gasp of dreadful retaliation?

There is a good reason none of these are viable options. It’s because, from the North Korean point of view, only achieving that most fearsome military capability can provide reasonable assurance of this regime’s long-term existence. The North Korean leader wants there to be a parade for him, like the one we recently saw for his elders, on the 105th anniversary of his birth, and he must have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them against the United States to maximize the chance of that happening. Under any scenario in which his, and his regime’s, survival is in doubt, he can be counted on to take with him as many of his enemies as he has any means to do.

So here is the truly horrible truth about North Korea. There are only two choices.

The first is that we acknowledge and accept, as we have done with Russian and Chinese ICBM capabilities for decades, and then try to deter and contain, and to defend against, a North Korea able to strike us with nuclear weapons.

If this is, however, literally unacceptable — because we believe these weapons to be far more likely to be used offensively by the North Koreans than we have ever feared their use by the Russians and Chinese — then the alternative, the only alternative, is war. War waged to victory, not stalemate. War waged and won before the North Koreans achieve their weapons development goal. War waged with both sufficient force and tactical surprise, so as to not leave the opponent wounded, cornered, and still able to lash out.

This means the WWII notion of war, one aimed at toppling the enemy regime and destroying its capacity for harm, not limited “surgical strikes” aimed to send messages or merely degrade the other side. In the case of North Korea, limited war would almost certainly lead to total war, which would likely include the North’s use of nuclear weapons. So if any use of force will very probably lead to total war, it needs to be total war from the outset, on the most advantageous terms from our perspective.

There are very many, right across our otherwise highly polarized polity, who, if they believe this description of the real alternatives is correct, would opt for the acceptance of a long-term North Korean nuclear threat to the United States, rather than the undoubtedly terrible costs and consequences of war.

There are others who argue that a sincerely believed American commitment to as decisive a war as we waged in WWII, including all necessary preparations and all necessary sacrifices to fulfill that commitment, would cause the Chinese and Russians to ally with us, as indeed they both did in WWII. Better, as powers craving space in the global sun, to be part of a world police force, than bystanders to the reemergence of American hegemony, or to start World War III,  seeking to stop American hegemony.

Such a course of events, with the world’s three leading military powers joining together to preempt aggression by a rogue state, would amount to the more than 70-year delayed birth of the U.N. Security Council, as it was intended to work.

Frightful though it surely is, there is a clock ticking on this decision, and sound judgments cannot be made on the basis of false premises. Our choices are both bad and difficult. Our choices are acceptance or war.  "

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It wasn't a deal, regulations or enforced... Get informed or get lost.


Anything that requires an agreement between two or more parties can be referred to as a "deal" whether it's formal or not.

You have been informed.  Grin


Just to make you look stupid....
The deal, has a no pull out clause, and it takes up to a year to withdraw.... there's also measure in it, that have already begun that can't be undone.
So, when it comes to informed, you're not... you haven't a clue what's in it, what it's about. You just go along.
It's a comedy show watching Trump supporters go along with him. The must assholish, uneducated person to ever hit the scene, and a bunch of angry people voted him in buying his con.
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Edith Grove wrote on Jun 2nd, 2017 at 6:00am:
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It wasn't a deal, regulations or enforced... Get informed or get lost.


Anything that requires an agreement between two or more parties can be referred to as a "deal" whether it's formal or not.

You have been informed.  Grin


Just to make you look stupid....
The deal, has a no pull out clause, and it takes up to a year to withdraw.... there's also measure in it, that have already begun that can't be undone.
So, when it comes to informed, you're not... you haven't a clue what's in it, what it's about. You just go along.
It's a comedy show watching Trump supporters go along with him. The must assholish, uneducated person to ever hit the scene, and a bunch of angry people voted him in buying his con.



OK, got it!  Oh no! not you again
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Edith & his nest egg is doing very well, thank you.  really?
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And if Mack and Shreader weren't playing so horribly injured in second half we could have  run the ball effectively more and would have just run the clock out the 4th quarter by running the ball thus humiliated the Patriots in that game.

We were DESTROYING them until our defense got gassed and Shreader and Mack came back in after long halftime with their injuries flared up and in instense pain. 

Patriots got very lucky our OL was so banged up.......very, very, very lucky.
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Now if we can get Riffy back involved along with  Pdog this thread might take off.

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Freya Gin Edith not well.



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And if Mack and Shreader weren't playing so horribly injured in second half we could have  run the ball effectively more and would have just run the clock out the 4th quarter by running the ball thus humiliated the Patriots in that game.

We were DESTROYING them until our defense got gassed and Shreader and Mack came back in after long halftime with their injuries flared up and in instense pain. 

Patriots got very lucky our OL was so banged up.......very, very, very lucky.



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