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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Kushner!!! Apparently Donnie isn't the only one who can fix everything... His son in law will now be fixing Israel/Palestine, Opioid addiction and a ton of other shit...

Anyone hear who the leak has been? There's a rumor...


Boris Epshteyn


I'll share his wiki, since everything else is fake news!!!!

Boris Epshteyn Борис Александрович Эпштейн (born 1982) is a Soviet-born American Republican political strategist, investment banker, and attorney. He was a senior advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and previously worked on the McCain-Palin campaign. Following Trump's election, he was named director of communications for the Presidential Inaugural Committee,[1] and then assistant communications director for surrogate operations in the administration, until he resigned in March 2017.


Early life and education[edit]
Epshteyn was born in 1982 in Moscow, Soviet Union, into a Russian Jewish family.[2] In 1993 he emigrated with his family to the United States; his family moved to Plainsboro, New Jersey.

Epshteyn is a graduate of Georgetown University School of Foreign Service (BSFS, 2004). During his time as an undergraduate at Georgetown, Epshteyn became a brother of the Eta Sigma chapter of the Alpha Epsilon Pi (AEPi) fraternity.[3] He graduated from the Georgetown University Law Center with a law degree.[4]

Career[edit]
Following his graduation from law school, Epshteyn was part of the finance practice of Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy New York. He worked on securities transactions, private placements, and bank finance.[5]

In 2008, Epshteyn was a communications aide with the McCain-Palin campaign. While at the campaign, he was part of a rapid response task force which concentrated on issues related to the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.[6]

Epshteyn was managing director of business and legal affairs at the boutique investment bank West America Securities Corporation. He is managing director of business and legal affairs for investment banking firm TGP Securities.[5] In October 2013, Epshteyn moderated a panel at the investment conference "Invest in Moscow!" The panel was composed mainly of Moscow city government officials, including Sergey Cheremin, a city minister who heads Moscow’s foreign economic and international relations department.[7]

Trump campaign[edit]
During the 2016 US Presidential campaign, Epshteyn acted as a senior advisor to the Donald Trump campaign, making frequent television appearances as a Trump media surrogate on Trump's behalf.[7]

In September 2016, Epshteyn responded to a question from MSNBC's Hallie Jackson by offering a new explanation for why a portrait of Trump – paid for by the Donald J. Trump Foundation – wound up on display at Trump National Doral Miami, a Trump-owned for-profit golf resort in Florida. Epshteyn said, "There are IRS rules which specifically state that when a foundation has an item, an individual can store those items – on behalf of the foundation – in order to help it with storage costs." "And that's absolutely proper." Epshteyn's explanation was, in effect, that Trump hadn't used his foundation to buy some art for his resort, which would be self-dealing. Instead, Trump's resort was helping the foundation – which has no employees or office space of its own – to store one of its possessions.[8]

In September 2016, the media watchdog organization Media Matters for America criticized CNN, Fox News, and PBS for failing to disclose Epshteyn's "financial ties to the former Soviet Union, which include consulting through Strategy International LLC for 'entities doing business in Eastern Europe' and moderating a Russian-sponsored conference on 'investment opportunities in Moscow.'"[9]

In an October 2016 New York Times article, three political commentators said in separate interviews that Epshteyn "often acted in a rude, condescending manner toward show staffers, makeup artists and others." Joy Reid, an MSNBC show host, said "Boris is abrasive. That is who he is both on the air and off."[2]

Epshteyn co-hosted the Trump Campaign Facebook Live coverage before and after the final presidential debate. He also anchored "Trump Tower Live", the Trump Campaign Facebook live nightly program.[10]

Trump administration[edit]
Epshteyn became a special assistant in the Trump administration. He wrote Trump's controversial statement for Holocaust Remembrance Day in January 2017, which omitted any mention of the Jewish people.[11] Following criticism of the omission, press secretary Sean Spicer defended the statement as written by "an individual who is both Jewish and the descendent of Holocaust survivors."[12][11]

In March 2017, Epstein resigned from his job at the White House.

2014 arrest[edit]
Following a bar fight in Scottsdale, Arizona, in 2014, Epshteyn was charged with misdemeanor assault. The charge was dropped after he agreed to undergo anger management counseling and perform community service.[2]
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Reply #1152 - Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:47pm
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Pdog wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:14pm:
Kushner!!! Apparently Donnie isn't the only one who can fix everything... His son in law will now be fixing Israel/Palestine, Opioid addiction and a ton of other shit...

Anyone hear who the leak has been? There's a rumor...


Boris Epshteyn


I'll share his wiki, since everything else is fake news!!!!

Boris Epshteyn Борис Александрович Эпштейн (born 1982) is a Soviet-born American Republican political strategist, investment banker, and attorney. He was a senior advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and previously worked on the McCain-Palin campaign. Following Trump's election, he was named director of communications for the Presidential Inaugural Committee,[1] and then assistant communications director for surrogate operations in the administration, until he resigned in March 2017.


Early life and education[edit]
Epshteyn was born in 1982 in Moscow, Soviet Union, into a Russian Jewish family.[2] In 1993 he emigrated with his family to the United States; his family moved to Plainsboro, New Jersey.

Epshteyn is a graduate of Georgetown University School of Foreign Service (BSFS, 2004). During his time as an undergraduate at Georgetown, Epshteyn became a brother of the Eta Sigma chapter of the Alpha Epsilon Pi (AEPi) fraternity.[3] He graduated from the Georgetown University Law Center with a law degree.[4]

Career[edit]
Following his graduation from law school, Epshteyn was part of the finance practice of Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy New York. He worked on securities transactions, private placements, and bank finance.[5]

In 2008, Epshteyn was a communications aide with the McCain-Palin campaign. While at the campaign, he was part of a rapid response task force which concentrated on issues related to the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.[6]

Epshteyn was managing director of business and legal affairs at the boutique investment bank West America Securities Corporation. He is managing director of business and legal affairs for investment banking firm TGP Securities.[5] In October 2013, Epshteyn moderated a panel at the investment conference "Invest in Moscow!" The panel was composed mainly of Moscow city government officials, including Sergey Cheremin, a city minister who heads Moscow’s foreign economic and international relations department.[7]

Trump campaign[edit]
During the 2016 US Presidential campaign, Epshteyn acted as a senior advisor to the Donald Trump campaign, making frequent television appearances as a Trump media surrogate on Trump's behalf.[7]

In September 2016, Epshteyn responded to a question from MSNBC's Hallie Jackson by offering a new explanation for why a portrait of Trump – paid for by the Donald J. Trump Foundation – wound up on display at Trump National Doral Miami, a Trump-owned for-profit golf resort in Florida. Epshteyn said, "There are IRS rules which specifically state that when a foundation has an item, an individual can store those items – on behalf of the foundation – in order to help it with storage costs." "And that's absolutely proper." Epshteyn's explanation was, in effect, that Trump hadn't used his foundation to buy some art for his resort, which would be self-dealing. Instead, Trump's resort was helping the foundation – which has no employees or office space of its own – to store one of its possessions.[8]

In September 2016, the media watchdog organization Media Matters for America criticized CNN, Fox News, and PBS for failing to disclose Epshteyn's "financial ties to the former Soviet Union, which include consulting through Strategy International LLC for 'entities doing business in Eastern Europe' and moderating a Russian-sponsored conference on 'investment opportunities in Moscow.'"[9]

In an October 2016 New York Times article, three political commentators said in separate interviews that Epshteyn "often acted in a rude, condescending manner toward show staffers, makeup artists and others." Joy Reid, an MSNBC show host, said "Boris is abrasive. That is who he is both on the air and off."[2]

Epshteyn co-hosted the Trump Campaign Facebook Live coverage before and after the final presidential debate. He also anchored "Trump Tower Live", the Trump Campaign Facebook live nightly program.[10]

Trump administration[edit]
Epshteyn became a special assistant in the Trump administration. He wrote Trump's controversial statement for Holocaust Remembrance Day in January 2017, which omitted any mention of the Jewish people.[11] Following criticism of the omission, press secretary Sean Spicer defended the statement as written by "an individual who is both Jewish and the descendent of Holocaust survivors."[12][11]

In March 2017, Epstein resigned from his job at the White House.

2014 arrest[edit]
Following a bar fight in Scottsdale, Arizona, in 2014, Epshteyn was charged with misdemeanor assault. The charge was dropped after he agreed to undergo anger management counseling and perform community service.[2]



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There's your Russian/Trump connection. Now can we move on to tax reform?
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" A ‘New Approach’ to North Korea   "

" It’s time to make regime change the explicit aim of U.S. policy.  " 



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" Rex Tillerson was widely criticized earlier this month when he suggested that “efforts of the past 20 years to bring North Korea to a point of denuclearization have failed.” The secretary of state then promised “a new approach” without offering details.

Perhaps he doesn’t yet know what that new approach is. But recognizing failure is the first step on the road to wisdom.

Since the end of the Cold War the U.S. has pursued a three-pronged approach toward North Korea. First has been a policy of inducements aimed at getting Pyongyang to change its ways. These include the unilateral removal of U.S. nuclear weapons from South Korea in 1991, yearly shipments of heavy fuel for most of the 1990s, South Korea’s construction of the Kaesong Industrial Complex inside North Korea in 2003, and the removal of North Korea from the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism in 2008.

None of it worked. North Korea is too cynical, greedy and poor to stay bribed for long. And it knows it cannot abandon its nuclear program, lest it also forsake the only reason the West would pay bribes in the first place.

Then there are sanctions. North Korea may be the “most sanctioned” country on earth, as Barack Obama pointed out in 2015, but sanctions on North Korea tend to fail because China has generally been reluctant to enforce them. China last year imported $1.2 billion of North Korean coal, above the level allowed by U.N. sanctions. More recently, Beijing announced that it would cut off coal imports from Pyongyang, but only after it had already purchased its annual quota. And politically influential Chinese individuals continue to help the North evade sanctions through front companies.

Finally there is what the Obama administration called “strategic patience”—a policy of waiting for the regime to collapse or change course.

Strategic patience would be a more plausible policy if time weren’t working against us. The North is now preparing its sixth nuclear test. Its ability to marry a nuclear warhead to an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of hitting the U.S. mainland is no longer a theoretical risk. A state-of-the-art uranium-enrichment plant gives it the ability to produce as many as eight bombs a year. Some of those bombs could be shared with or sold to Iran or other malign actors.

So what’s the alternative?

It’s time to make regime change in North Korea the explicit aim of U.S. policy, both on strategic and humanitarian grounds. But there are two ways in which regime change can be pursued—and one can be used in furtherance of the other.

The first type of regime change is pro-China. Beijing has little sympathy for Kim Jong Un, who brutally purged his regime of its China sympathizers after coming to power five years ago. But Beijing’s distaste is tempered by its interest in the existence of North Korea as an independent state, mainly because it has good reason to fear the strength and example of a unified, democratic Korea led from Seoul.


Pro-China regime change would take the form of a coup, in which Kim would be given the choice of exile or execution, to be replaced by a pro-Beijing figure willing to move the country from totalitarianism to authoritarianism—a Korean replay of the transition from Mao Zedong to Deng Xiaoping. The U.S. would recognize the new government in exchange for verifiable nuclear disarmament, sealing the division of the peninsula.

The U.S. could support such a policy and work with China to achieve it because it would ease the suffering of North Korea’s people and put the country’s nuclear arsenal in safer (and more negotiable) hands. China should support it because it would maintain the North as a buffer state and get rid of a regime that might otherwise collapse in unpredictable and dangerous ways.

Achieving such regime change will be tricky, but China could move things along by cutting off fuel supplies to the North and “inviting” Kim and his family for an extended luxury vacation.

And if the Chinese aren’t amenable to this strategy? In that case, the U.S. should support the anti-China model of regime change, aiming not only at the end of the Kim regime but of North Korea itself.

That would mean a formal U.S. declaration in favor of unification. Other steps might include cutting off Chinese banks and companies that do business with Pyongyang from access to U.S. dollars, undertaking a campaign to highlight Chinese mistreatment of North Korean refugees, and further speeding the deployment of antiballistic missile systems to South Korea. As another inducement, Donald Trump could return to his suggestion last year that the South should have an independent nuclear deterrent.

Mr. Trump is scheduled to meet Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago next month. It would be a good occasion for the president to ask his Chinese counterpart which kind of regime change he’d prefer.  "
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-house-un-freedom-caucus-1490828436





" The House Un-Freedom Caucus   "


" After the health-care failure, it’s time for Republican voters and donors to rethink their political support.   "



By DANIEL HENNINGER





" On the night of Nov. 8, 2016, after it was clear that Donald Trump had upset Hillary Clinton, there was broad agreement that one word described the American electorate’s purpose: change. Voters wanted change from the status quo.

Last week, not 100 days into the Trump presidency, the members of the House Freedom Caucus decided that the 2016 election was not about change. It was instead about legislative gridlock, with the bitterly ironic difference that these 25 or so self-described conservatives have locked up their own party.

Democrats need 24 pickups to regain control of the House. There are 23 Republicans running from districts Mrs. Clinton won. After the 2018 midterms, history may record that the Republican Party lost House control to the Democrats around 2 p.m. on Thursday, March 23, 2017.

That was when Republican members from closely contested congressional districts—such as Virginia’s Barbara Comstock and New York’s John Faso—announced they would vote against the health-care reform bill.

The Freedom Caucus, whose leaders are from “safe” districts, opened a Pandora’s box that pushed these Republicans into impossible vulnerability on the health-care bill. Now Democrats will exploit this vulnerability on every issue before the House.


Meet the House Un-Freedom Caucus.

The health-care bill’s provisions for individual patient choice are gone. The Republican Legislature in Kansas voted Tuesday to expand Medicaid. Others will follow.

The chances of a truly liberating tax-reform bill are now diminished. As to their “principles,” this caucus has probably helped entrench pure presidential power. Mr. Trump, undercut by his own party, will likely resort to more Obama-like rule by executive order.

This lost opportunity is not about Donald Trump’s House-of-Borgias White House operation or Paul Ryan’s leadership. It is the product of a conservative movement that over the past eight years talked itself, literally, into believing that political activism equals political accomplishment. It does not.

The tea-party movement sits at the center of these events. The tea parties began in 2009 as a spontaneous revolution against Washington’s spending pathology and President Obama’s intent to push it higher. Hundreds of citizen-driven tea-party groups sprouted across the country, even in New York City.

A year later, the Obama IRS began the destruction of that movement, and the small groups collapsed under federal investigations.

After that, the remnants of the original citizen antispending movement were taken over by larger operators who absorbed the tea-party brand and turned conservative political activism into a sophisticated business model.

Rage at Washington—the original and genuine tea-party idea—became a commercial political meme. They created and endlessly repeated stirring phrases such as “the donor class” and “the establishment.” These were anger triggers—clickbait for donors.

Let us grant that for some, the early impulse was to displace the progressive ascendancy with a more limited government. Between 2009 and 2016, something went off the rails that turned politics into mainly an addictive thrill ride. Achieving legislative goals became a secondary objective.

Pity the poor citizen who thought all this conservative organizing and rage was about something more than anger. As to the Trump supporters, their hero was just taken down by the most right-wing members of the House. At crunch time, the Freedom Caucus stiffed the Trump base that had given them politics’ rarest gift—control of government.

Barack Obama has to be grinning the biggest Obama grin ever. This is the world of political nihilism he created. In February 2010 he convened a bipartisan health-care summit at Blair House, and when it was over he walked away from every market-based proposal the Republicans made. That was the day Paul Ryan and Tom Price, now the Trump HHS Secretary, started writing their own health-reform bills.

The Obama method also brought to Congress people like Freedom Caucus leader Mark Meadows of North Carolina, who had no idea how to do politics inside the complexities of the U.S. system of dispersed political constituencies.

Some Freedom Caucus members now say Mr. Trump should have reached out to them earlier. That is irrelevant. They would have done this to a President Pence. Theirs is a world of face time.

What comes next?

The White House and congressional Republicans have their game faces on for tax reform, but make no mistake: The Democrats have been handed an unearned second wind, and the Republicans are playing defense on nearly everything, from taxes to Russia.

The conservative fundraising machines will go back where they were in 2010, pulling donations out of befuddled, angry voters. But this is a moment for those voters and donors to rethink their support. Maybe those safe Freedom Caucus House seats shouldn’t be so safe. And maybe there’s a difference between conservative organizations that produce constant motion and those that want real victories.  "
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-devin-nunes-knows-1490914396




" What Devin Nunes Knows "

" Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL



" California Rep. Adam Schiff may not offer much by way of substance, but give him marks for political flimflam. The ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee was so successful at ginning up fake outrage over his Republican counterpart that he successfully buried this week’s only real (and bombshell) news.

Mr. Schiff and fellow Democrats spent this week accusing Chairman Devin Nunes of carrying water for President Trump, undermining the committee’s Russia investigation, and hiding information. The press dutifully regurgitated the outrage, as well as Mr. Schiff’s calls for Mr. Nunes to recuse himself from the investigation into possible Russian electoral meddling.

All this engineered drama served to deep-six the important information Americans urgently deserve to know. Mr. Nunes has said he has seen proof that the Obama White House surveilled the incoming administration—on subjects that had nothing to do with Russia—and that it further unmasked (identified by name) transition officials. This goes far beyond a mere scandal. It’s a potential crime.

What the Freedom Caucus asked for would not have made it through the Senate parliamentarian.
We’ve known since early February that a call by former national security adviser Mike Flynn to the Russian ambassador was monitored by U.S. intelligence. There’s nothing improper in tapping foreign officials. But it was improper that Mr. Flynn’s name was revealed and leaked to the press, along with the substance of his conversation. The media nonetheless excused all this by claiming one piece of Mr. Flynn’s conversation (sanctions) was relevant to the continuing investigation into Trump-Russia ties.

Around the same time, Mr. Nunes’s own intelligence sources informed him that documents showed further collection of information about, and unmasking of, Trump transition officials. These documents aren’t easily obtainable, since they aren’t the “finished” intelligence products that Congress gets to see. Nonetheless, for weeks Mr. Nunes has been demanding intelligence agencies turn over said documents—with no luck, so far.

Mr. Nunes earlier this week got his own source to show him a treasure trove of documents at a secure facility. Here are the relevant details:

First, there were dozens of documents with information about Trump officials. Second, the information these documents contained was not related to Russia. Third, while many reports did “mask” identities (referring, for instance, to “U.S. Person 1 or 2”) they were written in ways that made clear which Trump officials were being discussed. Fourth, in at least one instance, a Trump official other than Mr. Flynn was outright unmasked. Finally, these documents were circulated at the highest levels of government.

To sum up, Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.


Mr. Schiff’s howls about Mr. Nunes’s methods are bluster; the Republican was doing his job, and well. Mr. Nunes has spent years cultivating whistleblowers and sources as part of his oversight responsibilities, and that network scored him information that has otherwise remained hidden. It isn’t clear if the White House itself attempted to obtain these documents, but even if it did, the Senate has confirmed few Trump political appointees, which means there aren’t many loyal staffers among the Obama holdovers to attempt it. It’s also possible the Trump White House was wary of making such a demand, since it would inevitably leak. The last thing the administration wants is wild speculation that it was interfering with the FBI’s Russia probe.

Meantime, few things match the ludicrous furor over Mr. Nunes’s source-meeting place, or his visit to brief Mr. Trump. Congress members must view most classified material on executive-branch grounds, since that’s the only way to access it physically. Having discovered the former administration’s surveillance of Trump officials, Mr. Nunes had a duty to let the White House know. (Imagine if he’d sat on it.) He could hardly let Democrats know first, since their only interest these days is in leaking and twisting stories. And the reason he held press briefings before and after his meeting with Mr. Trump was to be transparent about his purpose.

Hint to the press corps: If Mr. Nunes wanted to tip off the White House about his Russia probe, it’d be a lot easier to speed-dial Steve Bannon secretly from his office.

If Mr. Schiff wants to be trusted with important information, he might start by proving he is trustworthy—rather than rumor-mongering that there is “more than circumstantial evidence” of Trump-Russia collusion. He might voice some concern that a prior White House was monitoring its political opponents. He might ask whether Obama officials had been “reverse monitoring”—tracking foreign officials solely so they could spy on the Trump team.

Mr. Nunes has zero reason to recuse himself from this probe, because he is doing his job. It’s Mr. Schiff who ought to be considering recusal, for failing to do his own. "
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-devin-nunes-knows-1490914396




" What Devin Nunes Knows "

" Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL



" California Rep. Adam Schiff may not offer much by way of substance, but give him marks for political flimflam. The ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee was so successful at ginning up fake outrage over his Republican counterpart that he successfully buried this week’s only real (and bombshell) news.

Mr. Schiff and fellow Democrats spent this week accusing Chairman Devin Nunes of carrying water for President Trump, undermining the committee’s Russia investigation, and hiding information. The press dutifully regurgitated the outrage, as well as Mr. Schiff’s calls for Mr. Nunes to recuse himself from the investigation into possible Russian electoral meddling.

All this engineered drama served to deep-six the important information Americans urgently deserve to know. Mr. Nunes has said he has seen proof that the Obama White House surveilled the incoming administration—on subjects that had nothing to do with Russia—and that it further unmasked (identified by name) transition officials. This goes far beyond a mere scandal. It’s a potential crime.

What the Freedom Caucus asked for would not have made it through the Senate parliamentarian.
We’ve known since early February that a call by former national security adviser Mike Flynn to the Russian ambassador was monitored by U.S. intelligence. There’s nothing improper in tapping foreign officials. But it was improper that Mr. Flynn’s name was revealed and leaked to the press, along with the substance of his conversation. The media nonetheless excused all this by claiming one piece of Mr. Flynn’s conversation (sanctions) was relevant to the continuing investigation into Trump-Russia ties.

Around the same time, Mr. Nunes’s own intelligence sources informed him that documents showed further collection of information about, and unmasking of, Trump transition officials. These documents aren’t easily obtainable, since they aren’t the “finished” intelligence products that Congress gets to see. Nonetheless, for weeks Mr. Nunes has been demanding intelligence agencies turn over said documents—with no luck, so far.

Mr. Nunes earlier this week got his own source to show him a treasure trove of documents at a secure facility. Here are the relevant details:

First, there were dozens of documents with information about Trump officials. Second, the information these documents contained was not related to Russia. Third, while many reports did “mask” identities (referring, for instance, to “U.S. Person 1 or 2”) they were written in ways that made clear which Trump officials were being discussed. Fourth, in at least one instance, a Trump official other than Mr. Flynn was outright unmasked. Finally, these documents were circulated at the highest levels of government.

To sum up, Team Obama was spying broadly on the incoming administration.


Mr. Schiff’s howls about Mr. Nunes’s methods are bluster; the Republican was doing his job, and well. Mr. Nunes has spent years cultivating whistleblowers and sources as part of his oversight responsibilities, and that network scored him information that has otherwise remained hidden. It isn’t clear if the White House itself attempted to obtain these documents, but even if it did, the Senate has confirmed few Trump political appointees, which means there aren’t many loyal staffers among the Obama holdovers to attempt it. It’s also possible the Trump White House was wary of making such a demand, since it would inevitably leak. The last thing the administration wants is wild speculation that it was interfering with the FBI’s Russia probe.

Meantime, few things match the ludicrous furor over Mr. Nunes’s source-meeting place, or his visit to brief Mr. Trump. Congress members must view most classified material on executive-branch grounds, since that’s the only way to access it physically. Having discovered the former administration’s surveillance of Trump officials, Mr. Nunes had a duty to let the White House know. (Imagine if he’d sat on it.) He could hardly let Democrats know first, since their only interest these days is in leaking and twisting stories. And the reason he held press briefings before and after his meeting with Mr. Trump was to be transparent about his purpose.

Hint to the press corps: If Mr. Nunes wanted to tip off the White House about his Russia probe, it’d be a lot easier to speed-dial Steve Bannon secretly from his office.

If Mr. Schiff wants to be trusted with important information, he might start by proving he is trustworthy—rather than rumor-mongering that there is “more than circumstantial evidence” of Trump-Russia collusion. He might voice some concern that a prior White House was monitoring its political opponents. He might ask whether Obama officials had been “reverse monitoring”—tracking foreign officials solely so they could spy on the Trump team.

Mr. Nunes has zero reason to recuse himself from this probe, because he is doing his job. It’s Mr. Schiff who ought to be considering recusal, for failing to do his own. "


This should be filed under Hannity Spoiler Alert....."reverse monitoring"..lmfao......is that like alternate fact monitoring?
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Kushner!!! Apparently Donnie isn't the only one who can fix everything... His son in law will now be fixing Israel/Palestine, Opioid addiction and a ton of other shit...

Anyone hear who the leak has been? There's a rumor...


Boris Epshteyn


I'll share his wiki, since everything else is fake news!!!!

Boris Epshteyn Борис Александрович Эпштейн (born 1982) is a Soviet-born American Republican political strategist, investment banker, and attorney. He was a senior advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and previously worked on the McCain-Palin campaign. Following Trump's election, he was named director of communications for the Presidential Inaugural Committee,[1] and then assistant communications director for surrogate operations in the administration, until he resigned in March 2017.


Early life and education[edit]
Epshteyn was born in 1982 in Moscow, Soviet Union, into a Russian Jewish family.[2] In 1993 he emigrated with his family to the United States; his family moved to Plainsboro, New Jersey.

Epshteyn is a graduate of Georgetown University School of Foreign Service (BSFS, 2004). During his time as an undergraduate at Georgetown, Epshteyn became a brother of the Eta Sigma chapter of the Alpha Epsilon Pi (AEPi) fraternity.[3] He graduated from the Georgetown University Law Center with a law degree.[4]

Career[edit]
Following his graduation from law school, Epshteyn was part of the finance practice of Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy New York. He worked on securities transactions, private placements, and bank finance.[5]

In 2008, Epshteyn was a communications aide with the McCain-Palin campaign. While at the campaign, he was part of a rapid response task force which concentrated on issues related to the vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.[6]

Epshteyn was managing director of business and legal affairs at the boutique investment bank West America Securities Corporation. He is managing director of business and legal affairs for investment banking firm TGP Securities.[5] In October 2013, Epshteyn moderated a panel at the investment conference "Invest in Moscow!" The panel was composed mainly of Moscow city government officials, including Sergey Cheremin, a city minister who heads Moscow’s foreign economic and international relations department.[7]

Trump campaign[edit]
During the 2016 US Presidential campaign, Epshteyn acted as a senior advisor to the Donald Trump campaign, making frequent television appearances as a Trump media surrogate on Trump's behalf.[7]

In September 2016, Epshteyn responded to a question from MSNBC's Hallie Jackson by offering a new explanation for why a portrait of Trump – paid for by the Donald J. Trump Foundation – wound up on display at Trump National Doral Miami, a Trump-owned for-profit golf resort in Florida. Epshteyn said, "There are IRS rules which specifically state that when a foundation has an item, an individual can store those items – on behalf of the foundation – in order to help it with storage costs." "And that's absolutely proper." Epshteyn's explanation was, in effect, that Trump hadn't used his foundation to buy some art for his resort, which would be self-dealing. Instead, Trump's resort was helping the foundation – which has no employees or office space of its own – to store one of its possessions.[8]

In September 2016, the media watchdog organization Media Matters for America criticized CNN, Fox News, and PBS for failing to disclose Epshteyn's "financial ties to the former Soviet Union, which include consulting through Strategy International LLC for 'entities doing business in Eastern Europe' and moderating a Russian-sponsored conference on 'investment opportunities in Moscow.'"[9]

In an October 2016 New York Times article, three political commentators said in separate interviews that Epshteyn "often acted in a rude, condescending manner toward show staffers, makeup artists and others." Joy Reid, an MSNBC show host, said "Boris is abrasive. That is who he is both on the air and off."[2]

Epshteyn co-hosted the Trump Campaign Facebook Live coverage before and after the final presidential debate. He also anchored "Trump Tower Live", the Trump Campaign Facebook live nightly program.[10]

Trump administration[edit]
Epshteyn became a special assistant in the Trump administration. He wrote Trump's controversial statement for Holocaust Remembrance Day in January 2017, which omitted any mention of the Jewish people.[11] Following criticism of the omission, press secretary Sean Spicer defended the statement as written by "an individual who is both Jewish and the descendent of Holocaust survivors."[12][11]

In March 2017, Epstein resigned from his job at the White House.

2014 arrest[edit]
Following a bar fight in Scottsdale, Arizona, in 2014, Epshteyn was charged with misdemeanor assault. The charge was dropped after he agreed to undergo anger management counseling and perform community service.[2]



OK! There it is!

There's your Russian/Trump connection. Now can we move on to tax reform?
  What the fuck?


not what I said... You'd love to move on... let's give the wealthy more money... Putin is the enemy, and that you don't care a foreign nation attacked us is both sad and ( I'm judging you) lame as fuck.
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     " Nevertheless , the turning point of the war had already occurred . It had come the previous year , before the Tehran meeting , in the titanic , grinding battles of Stalingrad and Kursk , where Soviet forces had decimated German armies that , altogether , outnumbered the Wehrmacht units waiting to repel the Allies in France . Roosevelt certainly understood in March 1944 that the Russians were doing most of the fighting  , a factor not often stressed in English - language histories  .  In just two months of fierce combat on the eastern front in 1943  , they lost nearly as many troops as the Americans and the British , including Commonwealth nations , would lose during the entire war . By the war's end , it has been estimated , four of every five Germans killed in combat would have been taken down by the Red Army . Losses on the Soviet side , civilian and military combined  , would be in the range of twenty - seven to thirty million . 
     Stalin had handsomely acknowledged in a banquet toast at Tehran that it was Roosevelt who had made the rollback of Nazi forces on the eastern front possible . His decision in 1941 ro rush Lend-Lease arms , planes , trucks , and machine tools to the besieged Communist regime had been questioned by key military advisers who thought the Nazis  , then in striking distance of Moscow , were probably unstoppable . In their view , the equipment could not be spared . It had been a big gamble , a singular act of presidential foresight , intuition , leadership -- call it what you will  -- taken at a time when the country was not yet at war ; when he was widely criticized for inaction by those who passionately favored intervention , for overreaching by equally passionate anti - interventionists marching under the slogan  ' America First . ' Without that flow of American aid , the dictator said in his Tehran toast two years later , ' we would lose this war . '
     There was an obvious symbiosis here . The historian Ira Katznelson states it plainly . Without the Russians , he writes  , ' the fight against Nazi Germany could not have been won . "    






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Edith what were you doing today while Trump was fucking up?

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/842775869823377409



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https://www.wsj.com/articles/notable-quotable-kim-jong-un-not-a-journal-fan-1491...



" Notable & Quotable: Kim Jong Un, Not a Journal Fan
‘The U.S. newspaper Wall Street Journal of the right conservative forces hurled mud at the DPRK again.’  "




" From the North Korean state news agency KCNA, April 3:

Days ago, the U.S. newspaper Wall Street Journal of the right conservative forces hurled mud at the DPRK again.

The March 27th issue of the paper let out such flurry of nonsense that the U.S. should set a regime change in the DPRK as a clear-cut policy target. . . . For the DPRK this sounds as nothing but a scream made by those frightened by the invincible might of the DPRK. . . .

The Wall Street Journal would be well advised to halt its foolish propaganda to hurt the dignity of the supreme leadership of the DPRK and think about when or how the U.S. may disappear from the surface of the earth.  "


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About the same as the number of Saints wins next season. Shocked



Forever.... to the bitter end.

Delusion is a Mofo

No amount of information or facts will sway most Trump supporters.

They believed Trump when he said Obama wasn't born here and inferred Obama may be Muslim.
Hate, greed and cruelty rule the beliefs.
Trump declared April Sexual Assault Awareness month... WTF, he's talked more shit about women, we all know about the pussy grabbing talk and he's been accused of sexual assault by at least a dozen women.
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:47pm:
How long can Edith defend this administration? What's the over/under?

About the same as the number of Saints wins next season. Shocked



Forever.... to the bitter end.

Delusion is a Mofo

No amount of information or facts will sway most Trump supporters.

They believed Trump when he said Obama wasn't born here and inferred Obama may be Muslim.
Hate, greed and cruelty rule the beliefs.
Trump declared April Sexual Assault Awareness month... WTF, he's talked more shit about women, we all know about the pussy grabbing talk and he's been accused of sexual assault by at least a dozen women.
#sad


Did Trump pick Bill O'Reilly as the Sexual Assault Month Spokesman?
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:47pm:
How long can Edith defend this administration? What's the over/under?

About the same as the number of Saints wins next season. Shocked



Forever.... to the bitter end.

Delusion is a Mofo

No amount of information or facts will sway most Trump supporters.

They believed Trump when he said Obama wasn't born here and inferred Obama may be Muslim.
Hate, greed and cruelty rule the beliefs.
Trump declared April Sexual Assault Awareness month... WTF, he's talked more shit about women, we all know about the pussy grabbing talk and he's been accused of sexual assault by at least a dozen women.
#sad



You will get Gorsuch and you will like it !



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Pdog wrote on Apr 4th, 2017 at 11:42am:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 8:47pm:
How long can Edith defend this administration? What's the over/under?

About the same as the number of Saints wins next season. Shocked



Forever.... to the bitter end.

Delusion is a Mofo

No amount of information or facts will sway most Trump supporters.

They believed Trump when he said Obama wasn't born here and inferred Obama may be Muslim.
Hate, greed and cruelty rule the beliefs.
Trump declared April Sexual Assault Awareness month... WTF, he's talked more shit about women, we all know about the pussy grabbing talk and he's been accused of sexual assault by at least a dozen women.
#sad



You will get Gorsuch and you will like it !



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He is qualified and should be confirmed. Of course Obama's choice back in 2016 should have been confirmed too.....partisan bullshit....it's the genesis of what started the Trump movement.
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.....partisan bullshit....it's the genesis of what started the Trump movement.



PB been around a lot longer than that.


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