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Reply #200 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 5:09pm

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So if it's Howlin’ Wolf and Little Walter covers- what does our crack staff think it might be?

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Reply #205 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 6:48pm

Edith Grove wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:35am:

Gazza wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:47am:

Supposedly Ronnie let it slip yesterday that the sessions in December consisted of an album of blues covers

Well, with this & Exhibitionism rolling out, could be the the Stones have come full circle.

It's been one helluva ride.......

Alpha and Omega.

Said it before - they should do what the Beatles did when they re-created the front cover of their debut album for the aborted 'Get Back' album (they later used both pics for the 'Red' and 'Blue' album covers), and just call the new album "England's Oldest Hitmakers"

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Reply #206 - Apr 7^th, 2016 at 8:26pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 7^th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:35am:

Gazza wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:47am:

Supposedly Ronnie let it slip yesterday that the sessions in December consisted of an album of blues covers

Well, with this & Exhibitionism rolling out, could be the the Stones have come full circle.

It's been one helluva ride.......

Alpha and Omega.

Said it before - they should do what the Beatles did when they re-created the front cover of their debut album for the aborted 'Get Back' album (they later used both pics for the 'Red' and 'Blue' album covers), and just call the new album "England's Oldest Hitmakers"

They would need a new hit though.

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Reply #208 - Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:41am

Honestly don't think they need a hit anymore. The don't need to prove themselves. Mick should just let go of this idea of making the radio parades again

Look at Springsteen. He may be the biggest act on the world right now, and his songs rarely play on the radio. He's aged gracefully

I think the idea of an album of blues covers is awesome. Throw in there Mick's mean harp playing, Ronnie's awesome slide playing and Keith's licks and you have a great back to basics album

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Reply #211 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 11:03am

Eduardo BM Paiva wrote on Apr 8^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

Honestly don't think they need a hit anymore. The don't need to prove themselves. Mick should just let go of this idea of making the radio parades again

Look at Springsteen. He may be the biggest act on the world right now, and his songs rarely play on the radio. He's aged gracefully

I think the idea of an album of blues covers is awesome. Throw in there Mick's mean harp playing, Ronnie's awesome slide playing and Keith's licks and you have a great back to basics album

I agree! I love real blues. I still listen to Muddy Waters and John Lee Hooker on a regular basis. I like the Stones' blues covers I've heard in the past and "Back of My Hand" is one of my all-time fave blues songs. Hell, it's one of my all-time fave songs, period. I'd love to hear more music along those lines!

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Reply #212 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 12:16am

Some Guy is a warrior - !

Ok now onto the album:

Lol .. everyone complains The Stones don't put out any fresh material .. and now here is everyone wanting an album of blues covers...?

I don't want a friggin album of blues ...uh 'covers' (although I would like to hear a few on a special release or certain edition or something) .. I want a damn Rolling Stones album smh Lol

I (we...The World) did not wait 11 years to get an album of songs they didn't write or some kind of cover / concept album, yo .. .... I (most) want an actual Stones Studio Release ...minus a total concept album and minus doing only cover songs Lol

Onto how it actually is and will go down:

Will the album be basically only an extensive album of Blues covers - no.

Is the album basically 'in the bag' as Keith stated - no.

Are they working on it - yes.

*There is a possibility they wrote something (a song or a few songs) in South America that has a 'latino vibe'.. hence the dude from Super Heavy being involved with Mick currently (pure speculation.. and only saying 'what if'?).

Anyway .. back to the album being finished ... Well For example Mick says they are going into The Studio to record more... >> Well for what...? It's already in the bag.. its already basically all recorded according to Keith lol (and most likely mixed) .. << Sarcasm.

I think by very very late June / early July ..the album will be fully recorded. I think by mid August it will be mixed and ready to go. I think it will be out / released in October. That is how I kinda feel it's going ...

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Reply #214 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 4:24pm

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 12:16am:

Some Guy is a warrior - !

Ok now onto the album:

Lol .. everyone complains The Stones don't put out any fresh material .. and now here is everyone wanting an album of blues covers...?

I'm not, Whilst I think it could be good, its something they could have dusted off in two days at any time in the last decade.

If, after an eleven year gap between their last record, they're so bereft of inspiration that they cant put out a dozen decent original songs for what will (going by the gap between releases in the last two decades as a yardstick) probably be their final album, then its time to call it for what it is. Proof that they're washed up.

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Reply #216 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 7:39pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 4:24pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 12:16am:

Some Guy is a warrior - !

Ok now onto the album:

Lol .. everyone complains The Stones don't put out any fresh material .. and now here is everyone wanting an album of blues covers...?

I'm not, Whilst I think it could be good, its something they could have dusted off in two days at any time in the last decade.

If, after an eleven year gap between their last record, they're so bereft of inspiration that they cant put out a dozen decent original songs for what will (going by the gap between releases in the last two decades as a yardstick) probably be their final album, then its time to call it for what it is. Proof that they're washed up.

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If you are saying all they could come up with thus far is blues covers then I think you are wrong... I'm pretty sure they have plenty, or at least 'will have' plenty of their own original material to record.

>> The session in December was just to get their feet planted. That's all it was... as they noted in the very beggining. As far as them having to do blues covers ... they <always> do blues covers when they are in the studio. The only difference is that this time they did a whole slew in getting some ground work laid down and someone recorded every one of them is all it seems.

If you are saying there is all the proof we need they are washed up studio wise lol .. ....Well why not wait until <AFTER> you hear the album before you claim or decide they are washed up studio wise Lol smh.

They are recording an album .. wouldn't it make more sense to wait until it's released in finally hearing it to make that call?

Again .. the session in December was simply to get the ball rolling. I'm sure they have or will have <plenty> of original stuff. This album is not going to be an album of covers.. so forget that idea right now.

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Reply #217 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 8:26pm

>If you are saying all they could come up with thus far is blues covers then I think you are wrong...

You seem to have ignored the use of the word 'if' in my statement, which renders the rest of the above statement and your subsequent argument pointless.

>I'm pretty sure they have plenty, or at least 'will have' plenty of their own original material to record.

You aren't 'pretty sure' at all because you have nothing other than wishful thinking to go on. They may indeed have plenty of their own material. As there's nothing to suggest they're going to record and release them, then that supposition is meaningless.

> The session in December was just to get their feet planted. That's all it was... as they noted in the very beggining. As far as them having to do blues covers ... they <always> do blues covers when they are in the studio. The only difference is that this time they did a whole slew in getting some ground work laid down and someone recorded every one of them is all it seems.

And now they're releasing them instead of original material. Easy option. If it was 'just to get their feet planted' then they wouldnt be planning to put it out.

>If you are saying there is all the proof we need they are washed up studio wise lol .. .

You might need to read what I said again instead of putting words in my mouth.

>...Well why not wait until <AFTER> you hear the album before you claim or decide they are washed up studio wise

Which album is this? the album of covers which they've stated that they ARE releasing or the one of originals that you reckon they'll make at some point in the future?

The latter, as yet, doesnt exist. So I'll base my statement on what IS happening as opposed to some kind of fantasy album. A band who has released two new songs in eleven years, with hardly any solo work in the interim period, who then choose to throw together an album of covers cut in two days in favour of working on new songs can be safely said to be lacking in creativity.

>Lol smh.

What does this even mean?

>They are recording an album .. wouldn't it make more sense to wait until it's released in finally hearing it to make that call?

What call? As I've said, it'll probably be very good. But as its covers, I cant see how you can seriously make an argument that it shows they're bursting with fresh ideas.

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Reply #218 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 10:18pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

>If you are saying all they could come up with thus far is blues covers then I think you are wrong...

You seem to have ignored the use of the word 'if' in my statement, which renders the rest of the above statement and your subsequent argument pointless.

>I'm pretty sure they have plenty, or at least 'will have' plenty of their own original material to record.

You aren't 'pretty sure' at all because you have nothing other than wishful thinking to go on. They may indeed have plenty of their own material. As there's nothing to suggest they're going to record and release them, then that supposition is meaningless.

> The session in December was just to get their feet planted. That's all it was... as they noted in the very beggining. As far as them having to do blues covers ... they <always> do blues covers when they are in the studio. The only difference is that this time they did a whole slew in getting some ground work laid down and someone recorded every one of them is all it seems.

And now they're releasing them instead of original material. Easy option. If it was 'just to get their feet planted' then they wouldnt be planning to put it out.

>If you are saying there is all the proof we need they are washed up studio wise lol .. .

You might need to read what I said again instead of putting words in my mouth.

>...Well why not wait until <AFTER> you hear the album before you claim or decide they are washed up studio wise

Which album is this? the album of covers which they've stated that they ARE releasing or the one of originals that you reckon they'll make at some point in the future?

The latter, as yet, doesnt exist. So I'll base my statement on what IS happening as opposed to some kind of fantasy album. A band who has released two new songs in eleven years, with hardly any solo work in the interim period, who then choose to throw together an album of covers cut in two days in favour of working on new songs can be safely said to be lacking in creativity.

>Lol smh.

What does this even mean?

>They are recording an album .. wouldn't it make more sense to wait until it's released in finally hearing it to make that call?

What call? As I've said, it'll probably be very good. But as its covers, I cant see how you can seriously make an argument that it shows they're bursting with fresh ideas.

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Gazza.. if you (and others) think they are releasing an album comprised of blues covers and that is the new studio album they are working on you are very wrong here Lol.... (at least I sincerely HOPE you are wrong).

They never said they are putting out an album of blues covers.. only that they recorded them in starting out... and it inspired them .. nothing other than that...

All this talk of ....'the album of blues covers that is the new studio album' ....has gotten waaaay out of hand... and isn't the case. Trust me for once ..

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Reply #220 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 12:02pm

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Gazza wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

>If you are saying all they could come up with thus far is blues covers then I think you are wrong...

You seem to have ignored the use of the word 'if' in my statement, which renders the rest of the above statement and your subsequent argument pointless.

>I'm pretty sure they have plenty, or at least 'will have' plenty of their own original material to record.

You aren't 'pretty sure' at all because you have nothing other than wishful thinking to go on. They may indeed have plenty of their own material. As there's nothing to suggest they're going to record and release them, then that supposition is meaningless.

> The session in December was just to get their feet planted. That's all it was... as they noted in the very beggining. As far as them having to do blues covers ... they <always> do blues covers when they are in the studio. The only difference is that this time they did a whole slew in getting some ground work laid down and someone recorded every one of them is all it seems.

And now they're releasing them instead of original material. Easy option. If it was 'just to get their feet planted' then they wouldnt be planning to put it out.

>If you are saying there is all the proof we need they are washed up studio wise lol .. .

You might need to read what I said again instead of putting words in my mouth.

>...Well why not wait until <AFTER> you hear the album before you claim or decide they are washed up studio wise

Which album is this? the album of covers which they've stated that they ARE releasing or the one of originals that you reckon they'll make at some point in the future?

The latter, as yet, doesnt exist. So I'll base my statement on what IS happening as opposed to some kind of fantasy album. A band who has released two new songs in eleven years, with hardly any solo work in the interim period, who then choose to throw together an album of covers cut in two days in favour of working on new songs can be safely said to be lacking in creativity.

>Lol smh.

What does this even mean?

>They are recording an album .. wouldn't it make more sense to wait until it's released in finally hearing it to make that call?

What call? As I've said, it'll probably be very good. But as its covers, I cant see how you can seriously make an argument that it shows they're bursting with fresh ideas.

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Gazza.. if you (and others) think they are releasing an album comprised of blues covers and that is the new studio album they are working on you are very wrong here Lol.... (at least I sincerely HOPE you are wrong).

They never said they are putting out an album of blues covers.. only that they recorded them in starting out... and it inspired them .. nothing other than that...

All this talk of ....'the album of blues covers that is the new studio album' ....has gotten waaaay out of hand... and isn't the case. Trust me for once ..

Ian

I hope so. By the way, could you tell Ronnie Wood about your findings? He seems to be convinced its an album of blues covers. The other guitarist in the band (his name escapes me) also seems to think that, having spent a few days together in December, the next record is finished.

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Reply #221 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 12:07pm

polytoxic wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 10:28am:

And now speculation swings the other way after Swedish producer Carl Falk (One Direction) posted a shot with Mick Jagger on Instagram saying they were working on a project.

https://www.instagram.com/carlfalkmusic/?hl=en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Falk

Cant say I know of him. No mention of One Direction here, but a resumé of Swedish House Mafia, Nicki Minaj and The Black Eyed Peas screams the words 'solo project' as opposed to 'Stones album'.

At least I fucking hope so!

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Reply #222 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 3:55pm

Gazza wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 12:02pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Gazza wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

>If you are saying all they could come up with thus far is blues covers then I think you are wrong...

You seem to have ignored the use of the word 'if' in my statement, which renders the rest of the above statement and your subsequent argument pointless.

>I'm pretty sure they have plenty, or at least 'will have' plenty of their own original material to record.

You aren't 'pretty sure' at all because you have nothing other than wishful thinking to go on. They may indeed have plenty of their own material. As there's nothing to suggest they're going to record and release them, then that supposition is meaningless.

> The session in December was just to get their feet planted. That's all it was... as they noted in the very beggining. As far as them having to do blues covers ... they <always> do blues covers when they are in the studio. The only difference is that this time they did a whole slew in getting some ground work laid down and someone recorded every one of them is all it seems.

And now they're releasing them instead of original material. Easy option. If it was 'just to get their feet planted' then they wouldnt be planning to put it out.

>If you are saying there is all the proof we need they are washed up studio wise lol .. .

You might need to read what I said again instead of putting words in my mouth.

>...Well why not wait until <AFTER> you hear the album before you claim or decide they are washed up studio wise

Which album is this? the album of covers which they've stated that they ARE releasing or the one of originals that you reckon they'll make at some point in the future?

The latter, as yet, doesnt exist. So I'll base my statement on what IS happening as opposed to some kind of fantasy album. A band who has released two new songs in eleven years, with hardly any solo work in the interim period, who then choose to throw together an album of covers cut in two days in favour of working on new songs can be safely said to be lacking in creativity.

>Lol smh.

What does this even mean?

>They are recording an album .. wouldn't it make more sense to wait until it's released in finally hearing it to make that call?

What call? As I've said, it'll probably be very good. But as its covers, I cant see how you can seriously make an argument that it shows they're bursting with fresh ideas.

______________________________________

Gazza.. if you (and others) think they are releasing an album comprised of blues covers and that is the new studio album they are working on you are very wrong here Lol.... (at least I sincerely HOPE you are wrong).

They never said they are putting out an album of blues covers.. only that they recorded them in starting out... and it inspired them .. nothing other than that...

All this talk of ....'the album of blues covers that is the new studio album' ....has gotten waaaay out of hand... and isn't the case. Trust me for once ..

Ian

I hope so. By the way, could you tell Ronnie Wood about your findings? He seems to be convinced its an album of blues covers. The other guitarist in the band (his name escapes me) also seems to think that, having spent a few days together in December, the next record is finished.

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You and I both know and agree Mr. Keith is full of BS ... If the album is in the can.. why are they recording again (perhaps he was referring to it is basically ready to be fully recorded with fresh material ready to go?).

I think for once Ronnie purposefully planted the statements about them doing all kinds of blues covers as an 'indicator' that what they have done so far has been blues based and inspired by the blues (along with the covers they recorded).

*This is not Stripped part 2 and it is ... not an album of covers... They are recording a new studio album (fresh material.. newly cut... A newbie .. but possibly a final adding to the long list of studio releases in their catalog).

Do I 'know' that. Well of course not .. I'm not right there in the studio with em. It just makes sense.. because if that is not the case and you are right.. Mr. Billen throws in the towel and concedes .. they are completely dried up and washed up as far as new stuff goes.

However I think .. and am pretty darn sure this a fresh new studio album... Not any sort of retrospect or covers edition (though it may contain a cover or two.. or some sort of special edition with additional covers as some of their other albums have in the past).

Still either way .. this is no rendition .. or set of covers to be released... .. This is a brand new Rolling Stones studio album, my friend.

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