Steel Wheels wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 7:42am:


It's good that you put a "most" qualifier in there because I do attend his shows whenever they are close to me and I have his solo work.

Move on? It's more like move back to putting on warhorse displays with very little heart and charging ridiculous amounts for it. The best show of the last American leg and probably the entire series of shows anywhere was the LA show where there were no guests and Mick Taylor came out for Sway, CYHMK, and MR (I'm not including that crap where they bring him out on acoustic for Satisfaction and turn off his sound). I was there and the crowd's favorite moments were when Mick Taylor came out. It was one of the best Stones shows that I've ever been to, if not the best and it was because he gave the band some new heart and made the Stones fresh again.

If they are going to charge an arm and a leg, maybe, just maybe, the fans should be taken into consideration and, therefore, if they were, I would pay that large bit extra for their consideration. However, like always, they really don't give a toss.

I said this before, if this is truly for his own sake because of some health issue, good on them and I hope they are helping him get better, but it doesn't appear so. Also, it's disgusting for Keith to act like such a prick and put it out there for the world. Furthermore, Mick may simply not like how it sounds musically, which is fine, but don't charge and arm and a leg for the same boring set lists and pretend that you're offering anything new.

MT was a nice thing on the 50th. The 50th is over and it's time for stadium shows. It seems nobody was really happy with the limited use of MT on those shows. On every board, people complained.

Now MT is free to do what he wants, on his terms, without being limited by Stones, Inc. He can get back in the studio,  create new albums, go on tour, do whatever he feels like he needs to do.

KR needs to pipe down about MT and move on.

The fans that are grumpy about no MT, need to move on.

Be lucky we have Mick and Keef and enjoy the summer shows. And who knows. Maybe MT will play with the band again at some point.

Defending Stones Inc. these days is kind of like defending Coco Cola or the Vatican.

Just a thought: they've been here for the last half a century. I don't mind being able to still go to their gigs and listen to Start me Up one thousand times over. I like that. Sure, I'd love a new album, but the nostalgia thing doesn't bug me one bit. I haven't cought them live enough times to grow tired of them just yet.

Sometimes I think that if the Stones did all the things we'd like them to do (e.g. bring MT back, play more clubs instead of stadiums, release an album full of blues and what more) they'd be playing for a much more limited audience and world tours would be what we'd be nostalgic about.

Please don't hate this post but all this discussion makes me think that we don't ever give these guys a break. I've yet to go to a Stones gig and leave feeling disappointed cause of warhorses played or the lack of Mick Taylor. We can't bring the seventies back and they'll never be as inspired or relevant again, but still, hey... Let's enjoy this while it lasts!

Gazza wrote on Apr 12^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:


Yeah Gazza, I agree with that too myself. But I don't know if there's really any other option at this time for them. Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us with one final good album, but I think it's the combination of having achieved fantastic artistic results in the past plus the fact they can still be great live (often) that sort of gives them a carte blanche in my head as to what they choose to do at this point in time in their career. I mean, they've already hit all the milestones, the rise, the peak, the whole eighties and onwards downfall, and everything seems like an added bonus at this time.

Gazza wrote on Apr 11^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

The fact that Keith denied knowing why Taylor wasn't invited on the tour and hinted that he may be ill. While clearly knowing that he wasn't asked, is fucking sickening.

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 16^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:



If he didnt want to make it publicly known, mentioning it in an interview is a pretty unique way of  keeping it quiet!

Mr. Yeats wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 2:31am:


Very true and very sad (imho).

I recall about 500 years ago when I first read the '71 Greenfield interview with Keith. It cemented my opinion of him as the coolest man on the planet. It showed his humour , his humility and not least his intelligence which completely defied the popular image of him as some moron spaced out on junk.

As you say, now and for the last 20 years or so it's mostly bullshit and braggadocio (much of it re-cycled ad infinitum) with almost zero insight into anything.

Has anyone thought Mick Taylor may not want to go back on the road again with the Stones?  He may not voice his opinion publicly but he did leave the Stones originally because he was dissatisfied and I can totally understand it iif he feels this way now.

The Stones have missed a lot of opportunities over the years.

They missed Heard It Through The Grapevine with John Fogerty, for an example of a small missed opportunity.

They missed it with Mick Taylor on the last tour -- seeing him with an acoustic during Satisfaction was perhaps the most idiotic image ever in the history of live performances.

Agree that dropping Taylor now does not seem to make any sense -- but generally when something doesn't make sense, it's because you don't have all the facts.

We probably don't have all the facts on this.

Oh, and of course, the biggest missed opportunity of all time...their failure to open a show with Sympathy.  That can be cured fellas.

   

I think you are. Anything about his health or pride is speculation at best, or invention at worst. The bit about the Stones choosing not to invite him however is fact.  He simply wasnt given the choice to accept or decline the offer because none existed.

Gazza wrote on Apr 17^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:



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Oh I missed that part. I see now ... yeah ... by the way he responded he wasn't trying to hide anything entirely either lol ... I was thinking he simply replied in saying he was not sure if MT was asked on this leg.

Ian