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Question: Would Happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song?




I simply think it would of been better for several reasons... 1 is intead of asked if he's finally Satisfied he would asked if he's finally Happy which Kieth rarely even asked. Plus i think the song would of been more powerful!
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Would Happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song originally & live?
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Re: Would happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song Happy?
Reply #1 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 3:24pm
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For me instead of him being asked frequently if he's Satisfied he could be asked if he's finally Happy.

Plus I think the song would be more powerful & Keith could just focus on that awesome riff w/out worrying about singing while not playing the guitar at the same time.

So yes, Mick could yell and scream the song while Kieth could just simply tear up that classic riff durring the whole song instead of stopping strumming just to sing.
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Reply #2 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 5:17pm
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Happy is Keith's spirit...so no...Mick has always kept a job past sunset and never took candy from strangers.
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Re: Would Happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song originally & live?
Reply #3 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 5:24pm
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No........IMO
It's Keith man......Happy!
I guess Im just old school
always though it was so cool that he sang this one! showed how versatile the band was!
I always like it when the band as a whole divides it up! you know like that 4 head monster!
Plus Jagger is more than just great as a back up singer, just imagine,
you 're singing a song and Mick Jagger is singing back up! You can't go wrong. I'm Happy to answer this one!
Stones Give me more Keith!
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Re: Would Happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song originally & live?
Reply #4 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 5:54pm
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Ok but Keith would focus on guitar more while Jagger sings.

Instead of Keith stopping playing while he sings Happy.
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Reply #5 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:07pm
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"Ok but Keith would focus on guitar more while Jagger sings."
Yeah but for one Song
That song "Happy"
it my man Keith!
But to be honest I never thought about it that way.
Still I love The song and would be scared to Change it!
Old dog new tricks........
I love Keith Rawness to the song!
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Reply #6 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:45pm
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No, its a KEEF song, MICK doesn't have the same sentiment.
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Reply #7 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:09pm
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No, I think it would have been seen as a lesser song in radio play and chart performance terms.
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Reply #8 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm
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Keith playing it at 30, 45 (with the Winos) or 70? He almost always plays it perfectly, except when he fell out of the tree and bonked his head and continued the Bigger Bang tour.

It's his singing in recent years that's suffered. Love the dude's voice, but he tries to be Al Green too much in recent years and it's just not happening.

That said, I would love to hear Jagger doing the lead vocal on this.
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Reply #9 - Jan 23rd, 2015 at 3:41am
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I like it the way it is/was. However, Mick singing backup during live performances like they did early on would be nice.
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Reply #10 - Jan 23rd, 2015 at 4:13am
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it would be more of a classic because most stones fans are the "40 licks" kind &
don't want to hear keith sing

though for me personally Happy IS Keef...
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If there is one song that is symbolic of Keith Richards, it's Happy.

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Re: Would Happy been more of a classic if Jagger sung the song originally & live?
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Ok but Keith would focus on guitar more while Jagger sings.

Instead of Keith stopping playing while he sings Happy.



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Something he's never done apart from late 2006 to 2007 when (presumably for medical reasons) he chose to not play and sing at the same time on any song.

'Happy' is one of only two songs on 'Exile' (the other being 'Torn and Frayed') where Keith wrote the lyrics. It's iconic status as a Stones song is because its so closely associated with him.

Cant imagine it ever being anything more than a long forgotten deep cut had it been just another Mick vocal.
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" Plus I think the song would be more powerful & Keith could just focus on that awesome riff w/out worrying about singing while not playing the guitar at the same time.   "


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Edith Grove wrote on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 8:39am:
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Ju mean ju mean sexually or philosophically...?
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Gazza wrote on Jan 23rd, 2015 at 7:59am:
steel driving hammer wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 5:54pm:
Ok but Keith would focus on guitar more while Jagger sings.

Instead of Keith stopping playing while he sings Happy.



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Something he's never done apart from late 2006 to 2007 when (presumably for medical reasons) he chose to not play and sing at the same time on any song.

'Happy' is one of only two songs on 'Exile' (the other being 'Torn and Frayed') where Keith wrote the lyrics. It's iconic status as a Stones song is because its so closely associated with him.

Cant imagine it ever being anything more than a long forgotten deep cut had it been just another Mick vocal.


I know we disagre alot about the Stones but I didn't know Keith wrote the lyrics for T&F my brother.

Thanks!
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Yeah, I read it in one of the many magazine features around the time of the Exile reissue. Cant remember who the interviewee was, but it was a comment which surprised me, especially as so many people talk about Exile as "Keith's album" (which seems to be based on it being almost all recorded in his house - another assumption that's very far from the truth too) It's a very autobiographical lyric - even more so than 'Happy' and possibly my favourite on the entire album.

Unfortunately if there's a Stones album which truly earns the 'Keith's album' moniker, it's "Dirty Work"......
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Gazza my heavy drinking brother I love you and all your true information...

It's always nice to learn something new about the Stones when you post.

Just when I think I know enough about them, then you tell me something new!

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Ah so you do like Jagger on vocals...
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Unfortunately if there's a Stones album which truly earns the 'Keith's album' moniker, it's "Dirty Work"......

Not that unfortunate to me, considering Keith's contributions (and bootlegged tracks) v. Winning Ugly and Back to Zero.

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Mr. Yeats wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 11:23pm:
Keith playing it at 30, 45 (with the Winos) or 70? He almost always plays it perfectly, except when he fell out of the tree and bonked his head and continued the Bigger Bang tour.



That was really unfortunate, wasn't it? I saw them on that tour in Oakland (with Pdog!) and for his first, he did YGTS, which I was really freaked out by because I'd never ever ever thought I'd get to see that song live, but the tears of joy just started to become tears almost of terror when I realized how fucked up he was. "OMG, Keith's gonna DIE!" I thought, wincingly. I mean, I know we all know that, but right then, it seemed like it was gonna be like, in the next two weeks or something.

Now, onto this COMPLETE CRAP about Happy being better if Mick sang it.

Don't we HAVE an outtake of Mick singing this song on our collective "alternative versions" of EOMS? I could SWEAR I have a version on mine. When I get my shit out of storage, I'll find it.

Suffice it to say, AFAICR, Mick just did a bunch of Mick vocal stylings all over it making it completely unremarkable--as Gazza said, it would just be some other deep cut. Like how T&F used to be until all these assholes started sucking EOMS cock.

That being said, I fell asleep lissening to the radio the other night and there's this station here that is playing WAYYY too many Stones songs...like, every hour there's some semi-deep cut and it is really unnerving me, but anyways like at 4:30am, here comes fucking Happy. I was a bit loaded on Valerian, so I kinda just laid there and let it wash over me and I swear I felt like I was hearing for the very first time the amazing fucking DYNAMICS in that song...there's an almost imperceptible speeding up and doubling down as each verse progresses, it's like a goddamn steam train. Even more so than ADTL. I didn't move a muscle, just let it roll over me. It was pretty magical. And it's a fucking magical song. And that's why it's PERFECT THE WAY IT IS.
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