Sure.. this isn't exactly 110% trustworthy.

Sure .. we have heard this how many times in the past and it didn't happen ..

Sure.. they still have to tour in October.. ..

BUT SURE they "will" record another album.. if all are healthy.  They may not be anywhere near as wanting to always go in the studio as they were back when. Sure they have been in a considerable dry spell over the past.. 15 years BUT they do still plan to record and yes.. if they are all well.. they will record another album.

Still even with that said.. this report could easily be complete rubbish -

Ian

Yesss I can feel it.
A new album.
And it will be their best album since ABB.
And I will buy this album, yes sir!
And put it in a secret place where no one can find it.
not even me.
And then I wait.
till the next tour is being announced.

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 4^th, 2014 at 5:24am:


What 'report' ?

The media mass one SCL mentions above?

See here about halfway down :

http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1406561877

A quick look at that site will show you its 100% garbage from start to finish.

A comeback (!) tour in 2015 and Charlie has been urging his twitter followers to pray for his sick dog, if you believe that nonsense.

As Abraham Lincoln said "Dont believe everything you read on the internet".

Mick will be busy until the Stones go on the road again promoting the James Brown movie and working on "The Long Play" with Scorsese.

Keith's album will be out on UMG in a matter of weeks/months. Its finished. Just a matter of a release date now he has a distribution deal for it.

The Stones' next album will be an i-tunes download of duets from the 50 and Counting Tour, according to our friend soldatti. . 

If they're writing songs for albums, it'll be for solo albums. That smaller target audience are the ones who want new material. The band's target audience arent interested, theyve no record deal obliging them to make one and the financial rewards are minimal, so there's no motivation to make a new record, when they can make more by playing two or three concerts.

They're also going to be pretty much tied up with performing until next spring at least and possibly the summer.

When you see other heritage acts releasing occasionally strong albums in their 60's or even having some kind of ethos about continuing to write and record, its a bit disappointing to say the least that the Stones have chosen to be the exception and go for the easy option of nostalgia.

In recent years, Mick has channelled his remaining songwriting chops into writing new lyrics for unfinished 1970's demos and now Keith - who has been pretty much AWOL as a writer for two decades - has chosen to devote his creative juices into a solo album instead of a Stones record, it kinda speaks volumes for how they see their creative future.

I liked what Mick did on Exile/Some Girls reissues and I'm really looking forward to Keith's record, but its evident that both of them have pretty much put the kibosh on any bonafide 'new' Stones record happening again. They're simply not interested.

I'd like another hit/high falsetto song. You know what happens by 9am.

Gazza wrote on Aug 4^th, 2014 at 12:55pm:



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Gaza.. and everyone... I apologize for not including the link.

this is indeed the link as was posted after my initial message. 

Gazza ... I think you took this post with a little more seriousness than I intended it to be. My comment of the fact that it isn't 110% trust worthy actually was sarcastic (I would say this post has a 30-35% probability of having "'any" real substance if you really want my honest opinion).

with that said... I am not saying your mistaken but brother, mate, partner .. this Keith Richards album you keep talking about I never hear of. Sure I saw he was working on one and in a studio once or twice but hell that was before The Stones got rolling lol. Your saying this solo album needs this and that and brother I gotta tell you:

1. There is no way this supposed finished solo album I have been hearing about forever will be released before The Stones finish all shows ...and that looks to be not until next year. Keith Richards is not going to release a new studio album in the middle of a Rolling Stones tour.. nor will his management figure that to be inline.


2. Your talking about the distribution of his album and them working out the logistics of it not being all worked out yet and blah blah blah (I have been hearing this forever). Look .. the guy is a legendary guitarist. A multi-millionaire. IF he had an album AND IF they wanted to release it...there would be no way on this planet it would ever be so darn difficult?

The truth is... I am not convinced he has any sort of finished album... and as I told you about six months ago... until I hear of a name for this album and a release date.. I am not sold he ever finished what sporadic (to put it kindly) work he actually did on the thing.

Lastly .. though I feel the above post to be basically garbage as I said... I still feel they will record another album. No it's not at the top of their list of to-do's ... to put it very kindly .. but after this set of shows that will be in the cards as their next order of business if The Stones continue in my opinion .. (again as their next project).


As far as This KR solo album I keep hearing about... I consider it a phantom and a few recording sessions... nothing more. Like I said if he had one and / or if they wanted to release it there would be no way on this green planet it would be that difficult for a name with money and pull like Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones. Truth to me is... there really is no finished solo album .. not even close.

To put it into perspective well over a year ago (June of 2013) he mentioned in Mojo Magazine that he was "polishing" a solo album and that he already had been working on it for a few years. Gazza... we are looking at three years here.. that was over 14 months ago he said he was "polishing" it?? .. and that was considering he had already been working on it for a couple years at that point. Gazza... this thing is well over three years and no official anything lol.. and now you think he is going to put it out when The Stones are on tour?? Bro .... come on the thing isn't done and it shows no sign of being completed. This working project is like "at least"  three years old... yet I keep hearing its coming? What could possibly be the hold up? This thing is well over three years and over a year ago he said he was polishing it up lol (I am having a hard time swallowing theres any album close to completed... we haven't even heard any offical time frame and the things over three years  old so that is where I leave that.

Secondly... I think The Stones have more chance of putting out an album by next year this time over any supposed KR solo thing I keep hearing is somewhere out there but they can't get the logistics worked out .. .. 

So what you're saying Gazza, is that a new rarities IS on the horizon. Good news..., very good news

Bitch wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 7:27pm:


They werent recording in New Jersey in May 2012, though. They were rehearsing as they hadnt played in a while (they did a bit in New York before moving on to a rehearsal space in Weehawken. It was a follow up to the rehearsal in London in December 2011 and the last day was filmed for use in 'Crossfire Hurricane' but not used)

The recording session in Paris in August 2012 lasted about three days. The songs from that session were included on 'Grrr!'.

Those couple of days were the only recording session they've had in the last nine years. And hardly any (if any at all) of the ABB sessions featured all four band members playing in the same room together.


This was the story we broke on the NYC session, and that it was just a jam session
http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1335918841/0

and this was Keith's confirmation some time later that the session in NJ was much the same thing :
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rolling-stones-gather-to-plot-50th-annive...

One of the 'two good sources' mentioned who told me about the NY session is the same person who confirmed the Keith solo album referred to earlier in this thread.....


I think we'll probably get more rewritten and reworked old songs included on deluxe versions of old albums, in the way that they (or rather Mick) did for the Some Girls and Exile reissues. A Sticky Fingers deluxe has been highly rumoured for a while, although that seems to have been put on the backburner once they decided to put out the 'Sweet Summer Sun' CD/DVD package instead. I dont know how far along that project is, however - it seems to have gone pretty quiet.

Gazza must have the patience of a Saint to deal with Ian's yearly nonsense.

For what it's worth, I had a dream last night. I was not
piloting a plane...

The Stones had released a surprise album of tracks that
managed to sound both scraped-together and overly-
produced. Like some of the Exile bonus tracks. But from
the Vegas era. Entitled "Insolent and Indolent".

I and I!

MP3's free to download. No physical album. Just a bunch
of physical singles adding up to the entire album plus
bonus tracks. You would be able to buy all these singles
together in a box set for Christmas.

The featured tune was "Dead Certain (She Wants Me)".

The digital cover art was Mick and Keith hugging.
Sarcastically of course.

I liked the album very much.

(Duets album also coming soon. But you'll be expected
to pay for that one.)

This has to be mentioned, even if it turns out to be
way off base...

1) My first point carries no weight, beyond minor
curiousity value: That dream I had about a scraped-
together free quicky album release, I forgot to say that it
was to compensate fans for something or other. Exactly
what wasn't clear in the dream.

2) Okay, now to the important stuff: As has been
mentioned, there have been reports that the 5-show run
in Buenos Aires will not happen because of their currency
crisis. Also, Mexican newspaper reports cited on IORR
have stated that the two Mexico City shows will not
happen either. And as you may know, the expected
participation of the Stones at Rock in Rio was never
announced and seems dead.

3) This probably means that the South American tour en
total will not happen. If so, then nothing more may
happen in 2014/2015, in terms of Stones shows.

4) Why? Because South America was the heart of this
final push. 700,000 fans expected. The 200,000 downunder
were going to be just a warm-up for South America, with
the half-dozen rumored 2015 American and British dates a
big final piggy-backed cash-in on the other end. Without
South America, it just may not make much sense to rev
up the machine just to entertain a few kangaroos, koalas,
and kiwis.

5) Aside from the business angle, there are a few odd
facts that also deserve mention: The New York Post
reported two days ago that (paraphrasing from memory) "Mick
Jagger will unveil his documentary on
James Brown later this month. The film with never-
before-seen footage was made with the cooperation of
Brown’s estate, and screens for VIPs in New York, Oct 20,
before debuting on HBO a week later." No, the story
did not say that Mick would be there, but it would be
ususual for him not to be. On the other hand, if he was
there, he would of course not be in Australia rehearsing.

I would have given this story near-zero importance had
not someone asked about it on IORR and immediately had
their question get "disappeared", as if it had never
been asked.

6) I always thought "50 and Counting" could have an
unintended alternative meaning, that is "T minus 50 and
counting", that is, a countdown. So it is an odd
coincidence that there have now been exactly 51 shows
since 2012 (the 51st show in this scenario being the
"zero" in the countdown).

7) Lastly (and I think most importantly) I want to talk
about something strange hidden within the nearly-artless
logo for "14 On Fire". Notice if you will the diagonal part
of the "4" and how it gruesomely pierces the tongue logo.
The diagonal goes in behind the upper lip and emerges
in front of the lower lip. It is a spike right through
the head. The tongue is impaled. This is a weird detail
that could not be unintentional. It would have been so
easy to have the same logo without the impaling. And
then when you combine this with the implied background
flames, you then have the tongue logo being not just
crucified, but also burned at the stake. You must know
by now that Jagger does not do stuff like this by
accident.



8 ) So are we now seeing the crash of the Stones playing
out more or less as it was signaled in "Doom and Gloom"
and in the "14 On Fire" logo? With a free album to
cushion the pain?

How the hell would I know? 

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Gazza wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 6:54am:



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I can't see my comment right now but I know I told you here (possibly even a few times) that Keith was saying his album was all finished a year and a half ago.

You asked me where I heard or saw that bc you were never aware of that .. .. ..

I looked for a little while on google and I came to the conclusion you are correct in that he never said it was finished.. he only mentioned he was working on it.

I can honestly say I don't know why I had in my head all this time that he either strongly alluded to, or said it was "almost finished" ..or basically said in so many words it WAS finished. I re-read like three or four excerpts over the past year and a half and he didn't say that. That was all there was on it.

I had in my head all along that he said that once or twice.

You were right about that. As well he is definitely saying it's recorded now as you stated (I just don't know how much I believe the guy Gazz .. secondly ..I don't know why you're are choosing to buy it this time from him... I don't know who is worse with Stones BS .. he or Ronnie lol). However I do realize you also heard from a couple outside sources they also said it was done (recorded at least).

Either way I wanted to come back and point out that you're right in that he never said that. I researched it. Incidentally this is why I was so darn frustrated with the whole thing and not seeing why everyone wasn't frustrated as much as I was (and to a major degree still am about it).

Still... it took him Waaaaay too long (even at that.. I am not convinced it's all recorded lol). All I can say is 1. I wouldn't bet the farm on it ever coming out and 2. .. I am not holding my breath for this one, Gazz (June?? In June the story will then be September-October... and then in September it will turn into "around the Holidays" .. just bein real .. .. .. ).

Ian