" I wonder if they will record and release another album.. I certainly THINK they will.. provided all are healthy to do that when the time comes.  Could one be possible in 2015?  "



<   --- Stones Is Stones Ian    ....... this thing is Bigger than ALL of us !!!!!!!!!!!!  BEST STONES YET !!!!!

" Ahhhhh ... Joey I concur.

If there is one guy this whole board loves, and in which who always brings a smile to my face it's you, mate.  "




For My Baby Ian    ( One of My Favorite Stones' Songs     ---  the song that got me interested in the band back in 1981 )   :


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Since Keith has announced he's working on a solo album that will come out when this tour is finished that will contain a bunch of songs he's not saving for a Stones album so that would mean Mick would have to write most of the songs himself, which he doesn't seem interested in doing!

Future Stones 'albums' will consist of Jagger writing new lyrics and adding new vocals to decades-old demos and putting them out on expanded versions of classic albums (and in some cases rewriting history by using outtakes from sessions for different albums), as he did with Exile and Some Girls.

Plus two weak new songs for every proposed tour.

TIME TO GO BACK AND MAKE A CLASSIC STONES RECORD WITH 10 SONGS:

SIX R&B COVERS AND FOUR ORIGINALS

OR:

EIGHT COVERS AND TWO ORIGINALS

THE "ORIGINAL MASTERS"-STYLE ABBREVIATED LENGTH WILL SELL MORE CDs AND DOWNLOADS, NOT FEWER, IF MARKETED RIGHT.

ARE YOU LISTENING, ORIGINAL MASTERS ?

BACK TO THE ROOTS !

("No, we can't go there.  We've done that already.  Have to reinvent the rock 'n' roll wheel, like we did on A Bigger Bang.  Our reps read about this 'Original Masters' idea on Rocks Off, but advised against it.  They're all young, and know what sells.")

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 11^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

LIKE IT MORE NOW THAN THEN !

Joey: I thank you mate. The song is now a classic in a sense.

Gazza: So your saying the Stones won't record another album is what your saying? I disagree.. I think they will go ahead with one more. Time will tell.

Keith's Solo Album: Lol ... Still waiting for that to come off folks... Keith has been working on this friggin thing for how long now on and off?? ... still nothing ever comes to fruition over it. It's been like a good three years since he has been meeting with people working this thing up hasn't it? It doesn't seem as if he has anything remotely concrete in terms of actual motivation or plans to finish/work at consistently ...much less actually release it. How long have we been hearing about these songs he's been working on... from his basement to a studio to working with others on it etc. etc.... 3 or 4 years? .. .. .. ..


I don't know if I could even consider that a strong possibility... it all seems, and always has been pretty faint and vague on this supposed solo album.

In fact ... if you want my honest opinion .. I don't get the impression he ever even truly sat down and tried to record and mix anything from a "serious" angle. Seems more like just screwing around in his basement or a studio more-over than anything as a concrete work in progress.


Ian

Joey wrote on Apr 11^th, 2014 at 4:37am:

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Thank Ya... they played it for us in Ohio in 97 on that tour as well. A solid tour from them.

My hunch based on Keith's utter creative absence on ABB is that Mick is too much of an efficiency-seeker, an economizer, too organized, for Keith to write with anymore. When Keith gets to the studio, he has fragmentary bits of music that take shape organically in collaboration with Charlie and Mick. Conversely, when Mick gets to the studio, he has tracks that have already been preproduced with Matt Clifford or otherwise "finished" (except for lyrics — which Mick, for some puzzling reason, leaves to the last minute and races to complete).

These are just diametrically opposed ways of working. In retrospect, I think I might have been too harsh on Keith for his lack of output. There's still a spark there, I gather. But at this point, it's probably better nurtured by Steve Jordan than by Mick.

It did happen. I posted links to photos of the September mixing sessions on October 1st and there was even a title of a Gregory Isaacs song mentioned

http://rocksoff.org/cgi-bin/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1380585941/0

But yeah, maybe I'm 'mis-informed' and just imagined it. 

PS - I never said or suggested he's been working on a solo album five years ago or for the last five years. You're twisting this into something you wish to believe. By his own admission he barely touched a guitar after the ABB tour for a few years afterwards.

PPS - The Stones took six months off the road after Hyde Park. They're not in the middle of a tour. They're in a cycle of mini tours with no designated 'ending' and so the whole studio record/tour/hiatus bollocks is irrelevant.

PPPS - He's not going to be promoting a solo record if he's on the road with the Stones. Which, had it not been for recent tragic events would have taken up most of the first half of this year. No, I dont think he'll tour to do so when it comes out. What I meant was a short burst of promotional work, such as TV appearances, interviews and the like.

Gazza wrote on Apr 12^th, 2014 at 2:40am:


well above the rim.

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 12^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:


Who said it would sit for a couple of years? I've just given you proof it was being worked on at the most 6 months ago!

Most artists dont mix albums and leave them sitting around? Well - most artists dont have two musical careers, with a band and as a solo artist but I'll throw a few names at you who have. Neil Young, Prince, Johnny Cash (released just this week in fact) - want me to go on?

Ronnie Wood released an album in 1976 called 'Mahoneys Last Stand' with Ronnie Lane. He'd recorded it four years earlier for a movie. Keith's second Wingless Angels album was recorded four years before it came out. Wyman's Rhythm Kings "Struttin Our Stuff" record was done about two years before he released it as well. Jagger's Superheavy album came out in September 2011 - they'd been recording songs on and off for three years by the time they put it out.

Its a side project so it's irrelevant when it comes out. Its not as if he's going to go on the road for a year behind it.

Gazza wrote on Apr 13^th, 2014 at 4:52pm:



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Gazz...It is great to see your just as firm (and knowledgeable) ..

but there's a problem. This is now being spun to "recording" an album. As you know.. recording an album and mixing it are two separate processes. Many acts have recorded songs or even enough material for whole albums.. and left them sit. Rarely do they mix an album and it just sits for six months or a year.. it doesn't go that way (they try to avoid that).

At that scale.. it is very rare they mix a record and leave it sit (they try to avoid that having to occur.. which is why Keith was involved with The Stones so I found it odd in that they would be mixing or have mixed the whole album?). You were indicating they mixed all of it.. I just can't see that... and besides from the article I read they mixed <a> song... not an album.. the article said they mixed a song (and it was a cover at that). They usually wait to mix (and ultimately master) an album until they know it is to be released for an up and coming relatively soon time frame (three to five months tops from when they begin mixing it.. mixing it alone could take a week up to a month and a half).

So recording an album, is one thing... sure that happens.. but when they actually sit down to mix the record after they choose which songs are to be on it they do that for an upcoming release date fairly soon. We were talking about <mixing> it.. which I just couldn't see bc he's busy with the Stones until the end of the year..

Now as far as Keith and this solo thing.. I "know" it is factual there's been talk and he has entered the studio recording once or twice that we know of. I KNOW it is not all in your head or anyone's here. I am saying this... I just can't see it coming off any time soon (if at all)? Gosh if they finish up touring by the end of the year it won't be until spring they will release that thing.. (that's a year from now in itself) they are not going to end the Stones tour and release a Keith solo record a mere month or two afterward. 


I'm saying it just doesn't seem very firm.. and I wouldn't bank on this thing <IF> The Stones decide to write or record .. Either way.. it just doesn't seem like a very solid work in progess.. even given to the fact they are supposedly doing it in intervals. Guy... I gotta be honest. From what I'm gathering.. I am not so sure a Keith Richards solo album is going to come off.


Ian

Gazza wrote on Apr 13^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:



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Gazza ..

Why can't you just bow your head (or curtsy ...whichever you feel more comfortable with) in agreement and praised devotion to me? .. After all ... who's running this message board anyway .. .. .. ..? = ME ..

ITB

Ian Billen wrote on Apr 14^th, 2014 at 1:35am:



LOL....you mad bastard.

personally...I see little effort put forth in the last album and any  2-song addendum to a greatest hits packages...

Why bother going thru the motions if you don't really care...REISSUES...now that is a different thing...i have listened to the SG and Exile reissues MANY more times than ABB...cant recall what year it was I listened to ABB last...

Some Guy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:


You belong Undercover!!!!!!!!!!!

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Apr 14^th, 2014 at 10:45pm:



Nearly Died is a great song...but i was referring to the album as a whole...
I really don't enjoy "setlists" much...I love playing albums in their entirety...and ABB is way
subpar to me to be played from beginning to end. I also like RFD, LMDS and Infamy...but that is about it...maybe another one at the most, but that would be stretching it a bit.

Biggest Mistake is the sequel to SweetHearts Together...

I'd love to witness Gazza and Ian talking Stones shite over pints down the pub and place bets as to how long before they'd be kicked out. Youse are both mad bastids says me. Thanks for the jolly craic, gents! Always, if not informative, entertaining.

I assume / hope that they will record new and lovely and lovely new ditties, to add to the canon, when their time & trousers - & canon - allow.

They're not pussies.

If they ever did another album I reckon they should go back to the beginning.

Ditch any notion of a contemporary Stones sound and go back to their roots.

No guests, just the 4 of them with Daryl and Chuck. Mick on harp, Woody on slide, etc.

They kinda did that on Stripped but they only put their toe in the water.

Some originals, maybe some Jimmy Reed, Elmore James, Terry/McGee, etc.

Bigger Bang was a great album, far more cohesive than Babylon. I reckon Doom & Gloom was written purely with the tour in mind.  I think they've done and proved all they need to as far as contemporary goes.

I reckon a blues album would ignite the whole band's interest with them all on the same page. There would be no great divide with 'Mick songs' and 'Keith songs'.

Just what I reckon ...

MarshallG wrote on Apr 19^th, 2014 at 8:41am: