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Reply #125 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:50am
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Not bad, warts and all, but what a shoddy version of "Under my Thumb", not quite as bad as the first night, but nowhere as good as the "Still Life" version, speeding it up as the tour progressed was a good idea...I'm partial to that very version because that's what turned me on to the Stones big time in 1982!

They certainly had some roughness to them left back in '81, man, taking a crappy song like Neighbors on the road (I loved it back in its day), a bit as if they'd played "Mean Disposition" on the VL tour!

Overall they were on their way down compared to 1978 though, less energy, and both Ronnie and Keith aren't playing as well, stadium antics probably didn't help.
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Reply #126 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 6:21am
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If you watch the video, Under My thumb's maybe a bit messy because of the unusual way they took the stage at that particular show, with the revolving stage thing. It looks a bit chaotic so little wonder it took them a while to hit their stride on it.
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Reply #127 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 6:22am
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Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:43pm:
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the other four are BW,CW,RW, and KR?



The latter.
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Reply #128 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:19am
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Gazza wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 6:21am:
If you watch the video, Under My thumb's maybe a bit messy because of the unusual way they took the stage at that particular show, with the revolving stage thing. It looks a bit chaotic so little wonder it took them a while to hit their stride on it.
Good point, I'll need to dig out the video but based on the applause it sounds like it was a..staged arrival Wink I'm still pretty sure the Still Life version is a quite a bit faster...man that opening piano, the announcement and the powerful weaving guitars...that's burnt into my memory for ever, guess that was a bit of a revelation that day listening to it at the music store (just had teeth pulled out and my mum was offering me an LP to cheer me up...).
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Reply #129 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:19pm
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Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good.

Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on.
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Reply #130 - Feb 5th, 2012 at 4:31pm
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Trey Krimsin wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:19pm:
Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good.

Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on.



Wasn't Hampton Roads and the Tempe AZ shows, what were used in the Hal Ashby film LSTNT?
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Reply #131 - Feb 5th, 2012 at 8:52pm
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No...it was Tempe and the meadowlands  Brendan Byrne Arena shows...all three nites were recorded...i was there...if you listen
to the start of STILL LIFE...the announcer says...
"Thank you very much, the waiting New Jersey...
Would you please welcome...THE ROLLING STONES!!!"

The NJ shows were the arena shows and the outdoor shows were Tempe...

please correct me anyone if i am wrong...

The Hampton VA show was the FIRST pay-per-view show (ever?) on HBO...

an ingenious move on whoever thought of that concept...PAY PayTV!!!

HAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!
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Reply #132 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 12:24pm
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Pdog wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 4:31pm:
Trey Krimsin wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:19pm:
Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good.

Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on.



Wasn't Hampton Roads and the Tempe AZ shows, what were used in the Hal Ashby film LSTNT?


Little T & A, Tumbling Dice, All Down The Line, Hang Fire, Let It Bleed, Start Me Up and Brown Sugar are from Meadowlands, 5th November
Going To A Go Go, YCAGWYW, She's So Cold, Miss You and Satisfaction come from Meadowlands, 6th November

Everything else is from Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, Az, 13th December

Hampton Roads was televised in the US (maybe in Canada too, I don't know), but nowhere else. Promo videos for the two Still Life singles (Going To A Go Go and Time is On My Side) featured footage of the Hampton show, although the version of Going To A Go used as the single and on the album came from Largo, Maryland.
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Reply #133 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 12:29pm
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Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 8:52pm:
No...it was Tempe and the meadowlands  Brendan Byrne Arena shows...all three nites were recorded...i was there...if you listen
to the start of STILL LIFE...the announcer says...
"Thank you very much, the waiting New Jersey...
Would you please welcome...THE ROLLING STONES!!!"

The NJ shows were the arena shows and the outdoor shows were Tempe...

please correct me anyone if i am wrong...

The Hampton VA show was the FIRST pay-per-view show (ever?) on HBO...

an ingenious move on whoever thought of that concept...PAY PayTV!!!

HAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!



Was it actually shown on HBO? The bit at the start where the naked girl has all the stations listed on various parts of her anatomy suggests it was shown by satellite on several local stations.  It was also shown by closed-circuit in cinemas as well and broadcast on the radio.

I remember that Rod Stewart's concert from the LA Forum on the same night was also broadcast live on TV (not sure what station). Unlike the Stones' one, it was shown in other countries too - we got it in the UK a few weeks later.

Under My Thumb on Still Life comes from the first of the three Meadowlands shows (5th November)
Satisfaction comes from Tempe 13th December.

So, neither of those performances duplicates versions from the shows used for LSTNT movie.

Lets Spend The Night Together, Shattered and Time is on My Side on 'Still Life' come from Hampton 18/12/81
Just My Imagination comes from the final show of the tour, Hampton 19/12/81
Start Me Up and Beast of Burden (the non-album b-side) are from Chicago 25/11/81
Twenty Flight Rock, Go Go (both 9th December) and Let Me Go (8th December) are from Largo, Maryland
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Reply #134 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 12:41pm
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the outlet was then called ONTV and it was a single channel cable box..then the show was simulcast on local radio which is why the Tattoo you faced chick is painted that way.
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Now youhave me thinking Gazza and Dadrob...back then, for the most part there was only HBO and Showtime as I recall it...but now that Robdad says it...I do recall a special BLACK BOX that you may have needed to get the signal, hence, a possible separate feed...an UHF one at that...so maybe it was just done thru local cable companies and not actually HBO...

I was 17...so, who knows...I just assumed it was HBO...like I said...it was pretty much all there was...even MTV was less than 4months old at the time...
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yes channel 44 in chicago went off he air at night and ONTV then ran til very late when the soft core porn scramble came on...In chicago we had a only few other tv choices at night because cable had not penetrated these markets yet. one can go on youtube and see ads for ONTV.
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Reply #137 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 1:30pm
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okay...after EXHAUSTIVE reserch...in WIKI I found this cited under ROLLING STONES AMERICAN TOUR 1981:

In another marketing first, the 18 December performance at Virginia's Hampton Coliseum was broadcast as "The World's Greatest Rock'n'Roll Party," on pay-per-view and in closed circuit cinemas


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Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
The source of this info...ROCKS OFF!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ON-TV

I am sure of this.....my old VHS tape has a label citing its source.

and this


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I love the info on this place, especially Gazza... He knows more about The Stones than Mick has forgotten!!! Wait, did that even make sense? Anyway, You get my point!!!
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I love the info on this place, especially Gazza... He knows more about The Stones than Mick has forgotten!!! Wait, did that even make sense? Anyway, You get my point!!!

Gazza cares more about the Stones than Mick does at this point.
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Reply #142 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 11:43am
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Mick and Keith discuss the Hampton '81 concert on Magnifier, the second instalment of what seems to be an ongoing series of interviews on the archives releases

Thanks to Dandelion Powderman on IORR for the link




(Part 1 is the Brussels '73 concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnrHE9lP1g&feature=related)
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  Rolling Stones Jagger & Richards Remember Stage Crasher from ’81 Concert
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When you’ve toured as much as the Rolling Stones, it can be really hard to differentiate one show from another. But the band’s gig on Dec. 18, 1981, in Hampton, Virginia — now available as ‘Hampton Coliseum (Live 1981),’ the second official Stones concert bootleg — was certainly memorable for Keith Richards and Mick Jagger.
The way Richards describes it, that’s the one “where the guy ran onstage” as the Stones were closing out the concert with ‘(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction.’

“Security was a bit slow, and I saw some guy heading straight for Mick,” Richards says in a recent video interview. “I saw nobody between him and Mick … I have no idea what this guy is gonna do. … All I know is that he’s trying to get his hands on Mick, and this I have to prevent, and I do have a weapon in my hands.”

Richards removed his black Fender Telecaster and took a swing at the man, hitting him on top of his left shoulder, the guitarist recalls. Once security intervened, Richards went back to using the Tele for its primary purpose.

“The damn thing stayed in tune, and this is the greatest [advertisement] for Fender that I can give you,” Richards says with a laugh.

Jagger remembers the show’s custom stage with its “enormously long” walkways, which, in retrospect probably weren’t worth the money: “I think I went up there once,” he says.

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Rolling Stones Release Videos from New ’81 Archive Live Album
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The Rolling Stones‘ official YouTube page has unlocked four new videos from a 1981 show the band filmed for Pay-per-view at the Hampton Coliseum in Virginia. It’s the same show from which they recently released their second archival downloadable live album, a look a the rock band in their prime, and a highlight reel of at least one of the more talked about moments in Stones’ history.
“I’m not sure how many people were able to actually watch it on Pay-per-view because Pay-per-view is (was?) notoriously impossible to get,” Mick Jagger says in a separate video at the band’s archive site. The sound and energy from the show are captured almost flawlessly, and the video is as clean as you could ask for. One can’t help but chuckle at the styles of the day, including Jagger’s tight football pants and Charlie Watts’ bowl cut.

Performances of ‘Black Limousine,’ ‘Little T&A,’ ‘She’s So Cold’ and ‘Satisfaction’ are included in the recently released video vault. During ‘Satisfaction,’ Keith Richards takes a swing at a fan he feels is heading for Mick Jagger. So he uses the only weapon he has.

“That Telecaster is a really handy swanker,” Richards says. “I just took it off and saw that he was definitely going for Mick and nobody else was gonna get in the way so I just swung it and caught him right there (in the neck).” The guy was OK, but more importantly “the damn thing stayed in tune, and this is the greatest advert for Fender.” That scene is at the 1:15 point in the fourth video.

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Reply #145 - Mar 2nd, 2012 at 6:07pm
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I would love to see the Leeds show.  But notice that on Brussels Affair, they were too cheap to pay Chuck Berry royalties and cut out "Bye, Bye, Johnnie."  This doesn't bode well for future live covers, though "Let it Rock" has of course been anthologized before.




P.S., Can we get the guy who ran onstage at Hampton 1981 to report on this forum?
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Reply #146 - Mar 2nd, 2012 at 6:30pm
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Can we get the guy who ran onstage at Hampton 1981 to report on this forum?


He still owes Keith $200. Probably won't out himself here.  Oh no! not you again
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But notice that on Brussels Affair, they were too cheap to pay Chuck Berry royalties and cut out "Bye, Bye, Johnnie."


"Bye Bye Johnny" wasn't played in Europe 1973.
It was, however, played on the 1972 North American tour, and was not cut out from "Ladies & Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones".
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Reply #148 - Mar 3rd, 2012 at 7:18pm
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Yeah, you're right about Europe 1973.  I don't know where my brains are at lately.

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I would love to see the Leeds show.  


Leeds '71 wasnt filmed.
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