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Reply #100 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 12:00pm
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"Limiting the choice of archive releases commemorating and celebrating their 50th anniversary as a band to a four year period between 1969 to 1973 sort of defeats the entire point of the exercise, no?"

Exactly.  One must view this from the business standpoint of the Rolling Stones.  Business moves product, the main product for the Stones being concert attendance, merchandise, etc.

In my view, releasing these shows is a clever way of creating demand for the next tour.  They can't possibly be making money on these releases.  Sort of a marketing loss leader to generate the big income a tour will provide.

If I were to guess, I would say each release will cover a tour later than the previous release and most likely be from a different part of the world.  Next up, maybe the '90 Urban Jungle from London, then possibly a '95 South American show or Japanese show.

The Stones are a worldwide affair, they've got a big area to cover.


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Reply #101 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 12:06pm
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Hampton '81 is now available on the archive store for non-US customers

$7 for mp3, and $9 for FLAC.

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Reply #102 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 12:41pm
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I'm loving Hampton.  I had it blasting in the car on the way to work & as pdog said the nice thing about this versus the bootleg is that it doesn't get distorted when it is blasted really loud.  The mix is also great, like Brussels Affair, I have gained a greater appreciation for Bill Wyman bass playing.

So with 2 down & 4 to go the question is what could be left.  The Stones seem to be very in touch with what the hardcore fans want to see released since Brussels Affair, Handsome Girls, & Hampton '81, arguably the three most popular boots have been released right out the gate.  Therefore, unless they are going strickly in chronological order I have to believe that El Mocambo will be one of the next four released.

After that, I have to believe there will be at least one release from the 1989-2006 period.  Since they seem to be going with popular boots or telecasts which probably have the best possible sound source I'm guessing the top three candidates are Atlantic City '89, & Paradiso '95.  I'm hoping they don't just take the audio off the Voodoo Lounge DVD show in Miami (although I love that tour) or the 2003 MSG telecast as much of it is already on Live Licks.  I actually hope they pull out some show from the No Security tour with some really different setlists. 

Assuming they only took one from the 89-06 period (probably not the case) however- what other shows would be left?  There are so many but I'm trying to think of the real popular boots/live broadcasts.  I think Marquee from '71 would be great.  I'd love to see a Brian Jones one but I don't know how realistic that is-Did they tour Europe in '67? Was that Brian's final tour with them & are there any quality boots of that out there?

I tthink LA '75 or Aux Abbitors from Paris in '76 would be other candidates but those are pretty close to Love You Live.  Anyway you cut it I think this is great!!!   Perverted Mick
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Reply #103 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 1:22pm
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Just downloaded it and listening now (on FLAC)

and...

It's a monster. Even to my ageing lugs (battered by years of listening to loud music), the sound absolutely blows the bootlegs out of the water.  Great job by Bob Clearmountain.

Highlights are the best live version ever of "Let It Bleed" and a riproaring "Just My Imagination"
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Reply #104 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 3:54pm
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

I paid 9usd for the .flac, but when i try to download all sucks....

i do preffer 1000 times to buy at amazon or ebay....
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Reply #105 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 4:44pm
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ON SAXOPHONE, ERNIE WATTS !!!!!
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Reply #107 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 7:42pm
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Pdog wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 8:06am:
just remember, with whatever dissapointment you feel, with this and the next four releases... Most of us wanted Brussels, and we got it! If that was all we were to get, then that would've been alot...
Can We Get Satisfaction? I think most of us just never can get enough... and that they are even attempting this, and making it available in lossless downloads on the cheap, mastered great and getting the best mix, so everything sounds great, is an homage to us fans... Be Happy or or not... but I really think this is a great gesture by the band...


I totally agree, can never get enough. Keep these releases coming. I've been waiting for these for a looooonnnnnnngggggg time. really?
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Reply #108 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 7:45pm
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I'm really hoping we get one of the No Security shows as well.
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Reply #110 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:18am
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The-Worst wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 12:41pm:
I'm loving Hampton.  I had it blasting in the car on the way to work & as pdog said the nice thing about this versus the bootleg is that it doesn't get distorted when it is blasted really loud.  The mix is also great, like Brussels Affair, I have gained a greater appreciation for Bill Wyman bass playing.

So with 2 down & 4 to go the question is what could be left.  The Stones seem to be very in touch with what the hardcore fans want to see released since Brussels Affair, Handsome Girls, & Hampton '81, arguably the three most popular boots have been released right out the gate.  Therefore, unless they are going strickly in chronological order I have to believe that El Mocambo will be one of the next four released.

After that, I have to believe there will be at least one release from the 1989-2006 period.  Since they seem to be going with popular boots or telecasts which probably have the best possible sound source I'm guessing the top three candidates are Atlantic City '89, & Paradiso '95.  I'm hoping they don't just take the audio off the Voodoo Lounge DVD show in Miami (although I love that tour) or the 2003 MSG telecast as much of it is already on Live Licks.  I actually hope they pull out some show from the No Security tour with some really different setlists.  

Assuming they only took one from the 89-06 period (probably not the case) however- what other shows would be left?  There are so many but I'm trying to think of the real popular boots/live broadcasts.  I think Marquee from '71 would be great.  I'd love to see a Brian Jones one but I don't know how realistic that is-Did they tour Europe in '67? Was that Brian's final tour with them & are there any quality boots of that out there?

I tthink LA '75 or Aux Abbitors from Paris in '76 would be other candidates but those are pretty close to Love You Live.  Anyway you cut it I think this is great!!!   Perverted Mick



They toured continental Europe in spring 1967 - the final tour with Brian. There's a radio broadcast in circulation of the Paris gig from 11th April and somewhat primitive audience recordings of a few other shows, but nothing that I would think would be releasable, unless they have something that we don't know about.

IF this Stones Archives thing is solely a 6-show deal to cover their 50 years as a band, then - taking personal taste out of the equation - logic dictates that there should be a show from the era with Brian Jones and a couple from 1989 onwards. That would leave one and a mid-70's show would be the most likely, I would think - either a 1975 ToTA concert or an El Mocambo release.

Of course, if its an ongoing project which will continue beyond their 50th anniversary, then its a bottomless pit and it doesnt really matter what's next or in what sequence - we'll get every era eventually.

The Marquee 71 show is not a good performance. They were so dissatisfied with it that they wouldnt even let it be shown in the UK. Leeds is a much better gig, and as it was a radio broadcast (in mono) would be a more likely candidate for a 1971 release - ideally if it's in stereo and includes the first two songs, which were not broadcast and which have never circulated.
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Reply #111 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:26am
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Good stuff Gazza. I really hope they do even more then these 6 releases but regardless I'm very thankful for what we are being given.  When you think about it, with the exception of the cost to have these remixed & remastered by Bob Clearmountain the cost of putting these out is very little.  There is no production costs of manufacturing & distributing CDs.  They basically remaster them & upload them to a website.  That's why they can be provided for dirt cheap. 

The real question I have is is there a way for me to get lossless versions of these in the US without my computer filling up with viriuses when I go to download them?  you made a grown man cry
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Reply #112 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 11:30am
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I have a link to the FLAC version on a free file sharing service...it is working fine.....Gazza I wont post it here and let me know if there is a problem sharing it with others.
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gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.
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Reply #115 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:58pm
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now i like that show, before i heard once by year i think, now i like it very much!!!

i also upload in .flac for share...if any need them...
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Reply #116 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:20pm
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gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.


I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water....
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Just curiuos, is Hampton '81 the same show where Keith racked that stage-jumper with his guitar?  Are you fucking serious?
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Reply #119 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 3:01pm
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Yep.

Keith 'chops the mother down' at 1:06 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMJqey4Qr2A
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gimmekeef wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:20pm:
The-Worst wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:16pm:
gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.


I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water....



If you want to pm each other, fine - but posting links for downloading it on here might be a problem. Thanks.
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Reply #121 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 6:42pm
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This release is really terrific - the Clearmoutain mix does lend a certain freshness to what is a very familiar 30 year-old recording - I first heard it on 12/18/81 while recording onto cassette off the radio.  A few observations:

-- great to hear the guitars from the very beginning on Under My Thumb.
-- Mick's guitar is all but gone from When the Whip Comes Down
-- a shame Keith's vocals are buried a bit, especially on LSTNT
-- it seems a sligh bit of trimming occurred on Neighbors, Let Me Go and a few other songs
-- Time is on My Side vocals are unmistakeably overdubbed - sound not quite the same as Still Life, but definitely not from the original recording
-- a couple of brief snippets of Miss You are also overdubbed

These don't seem to be recent overdubs, but rather from early 82 for Still Life/KBFH purposes?  Again, not a complaint, merely observing.  Finally, Keith is definitely louder in the mix.  This is not a complaint either as I feel this may be his best playing live - ever. Blasphemous to some I know, but he was amazing this entire tour.  In my opinion, the black telecaster custom guitar tone coupled with his evolution as a player by 1981 is his finest onstage period.  Overall, what a fantastic release.

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Reply #122 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 6:47pm
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Gazza wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 3:05pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:20pm:
The-Worst wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:16pm:
gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.


I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water....



If you want to pm each other, fine - but posting links for downloading it on here might be a problem. Thanks.



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Has Wyman been cropped out again?? Or is that
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Has Wyman been cropped out again?? Or is that Jagger backdrop meant that the other four are BW,CW,RW, and KR?


Bill is one of the other four. This was a concert poster for the Pontiac Silverdome shows in 1981.

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