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Reply #25 - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:35am
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He left the scene & knew she didn't get out. If that's not moider, it's at least manslaughter, no?
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Reply #26 - May 22nd, 2008 at 11:41am
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I was just thinking that it was nice that this thread did not turn ugly.
The man is controversial. There is no doubt.
But if you have nothing good to say, let's not say anything at all.

Agreed, glencar. The fact that is has been released and is sailing tells me the prognosis is very grim.

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Reply #27 - May 22nd, 2008 at 12:01pm
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My friend who posted at Disneyland and RO, died from stomach cancer about 2 years ago.  Really great guy.  I remember his last post to say goodbye, and about 2 weeks later he died.  His brother sent me a PM because my friend asked him to thank me.    I hope that he's enjoying heaven now.  
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Reply #28 - May 22nd, 2008 at 12:16pm
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LadyJane wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:41am:
I was just thinking that it was nice that this thread did not turn ugly.
The man is controversial. There is no doubt.
But if you have nothing good to say, let's not say anything at all.

Agreed, glencar. The fact that is has been released and is sailing tells me the prognosis is very grim.

LJ.

With all due respect, I don't see this as turning ugly, LJ. Teddy had his (to many) good points & to many he had his bad points. He's 76. These things will be discussed. Hey, at least he's not Arlen Specter who is in a similar situation & hasn't led the news all week.
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Reply #29 - May 22nd, 2008 at 12:23pm
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He left the scene & knew she didn't get out. If that's not moider, it's at least manslaughter, no?



No.  And I do criminal defense in my practice.
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Reply #30 - May 22nd, 2008 at 2:39pm
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" With all due respect, I don't see this as turning ugly, LJ. Teddy had his (to many) good points & to many he had his bad points. He's 76. These things will be discussed. Hey, at least he's not Arlen Specter who is in a similar situation & hasn't led the news all week "
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Reply #31 - May 22nd, 2008 at 3:54pm
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lotsajizz wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 12:23pm:
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He left the scene & knew she didn't get out. If that's not moider, it's at least manslaughter, no?



No.  And I do criminal defense in my practice.


Negligent homicide could still apply.
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Reply #32 - May 22nd, 2008 at 4:00pm
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Factory Girl wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 12:01pm:
My friend who posted at Disneyland and RO, died from stomach cancer about 2 years ago.  Really great guy.  I remember his last post to say goodbye, and about 2 weeks later he died.  His brother sent me a PM because my friend asked him to thank me.    I hope that he's enjoying heaven now.  


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if you're referring to TracyGene, that was 2004. my, how time flies!

how time flies!
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Reply #34 - May 22nd, 2008 at 4:56pm
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Good luck Ted.   I don't agree with a lot you stand for, but I hate to see anybody go out with cancer.  I hated Reagan, but nobody desevered what he had. Nobdoy.  Some are making fun of Ted now. truly classless assholes. 

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Reply #35 - May 22nd, 2008 at 5:44pm
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Tomorrow we'll make fun of Pelosi.

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Reply #36 - May 22nd, 2008 at 6:46pm
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Katie Couric did her nightly Teddy update. He's still sick. Meanwhile, another 1500 people died of cancer today, maybe someone you loved.
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Reply #37 - May 22nd, 2008 at 10:25pm
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" Katie Couric did her nightly Teddy update. "



I thought CBS finally ' booted ' her off the air ?!


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Reply #38 - May 22nd, 2008 at 10:28pm
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Starbuck wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:31am:
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On one level, he's just another OJ Simpson...


oh, come on...teddy didn't murder mary jo. he just got too tipsy to help her swim. awful crime, but not as bad as moider.




From what I remember, she was NOT dead when he left the car and walked to wherever he walked...and did NOT even tell anyone what happened! She died because he DIDN'T say anything to anyone who could have helped. THAT was no accident.
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Reply #39 - May 23rd, 2008 at 4:27am
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Sioux wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 10:28pm:
Starbuck wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:31am:
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On one level, he's just another OJ Simpson...


oh, come on...teddy didn't murder mary jo. he just got too tipsy to help her swim. awful crime, but not as bad as moider.




From what I remember, she was NOT dead when he left the car and walked to wherever he walked...and did NOT even tell anyone what happened! She died because he DIDN'T say anything to anyone who could have helped. THAT was no accident.



Like Clemens said of Pettitte, you misremember.
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Reply #40 - May 23rd, 2008 at 6:15am
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lotsajizz wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 4:27am:
Sioux wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 10:28pm:
Starbuck wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:31am:
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On one level, he's just another OJ Simpson...


oh, come on...teddy didn't murder mary jo. he just got too tipsy to help her swim. awful crime, but not as bad as moider.




From what I remember, she was NOT dead when he left the car and walked to wherever he walked...and did NOT even tell anyone what happened! She died because he DIDN'T say anything to anyone who could have helped. THAT was no accident.



Like Clemons said of Pettitte, you misremember.




Um, I think not. Go back and read about the incident. She lived for awhile after the crash. Kennedy did try to dive down to get her out but couldn't. Then he walked back to the cottage where the party had been, passing at least 4 houses where he could have called for help. He didn't. He got some friends and they wernt back to try to get her out but couldn't. So, the friends went back to the party cottage {not telling anyone what happened at Kennedy's request} and Ted went back to his hotel. He told no one. He went to sleep, woke up, complaining of a loud party in the next door room, woke up in the morning, didn't tell anyone. By 8:00 am, his friends joined him at the hotel and they had a "heated conversation". They went back to the dock, Kennedy called friends for advice. He STILL didn't report the incident to authorities.

That morning, 2 fishermen had seen the car in the water and called authorities. A diver went down and found her body. Her body was pressed up in the car at a point where an air bubble had formed. He said, had he received a call the night before, and had gone down to look for her in the same time frame that he did that morning, she would very likely have been found alive. Kennedy didn't go to the police station until they found that the car was registered in his name.

So, since she could very well had lived had he called for help right away....THAT'S why I said what I said earlier. She did not die on impact. She died a long, horrible death.

THe judge COULD have called for Kennedy's arrest. And they COULD have prosecuted him for manslaughter. But they CHOSE not to........because he was a Kennendy, of course.


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Reply #41 - May 23rd, 2008 at 6:22am
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And, just because I think it was a "crime" that Kennedy wasn't prosecuted, he "paid" by losing any chance of every becoming President. And I'm still sobered and saddened by his diagnosis. NOBODY deserves to have cancer. It's a terrible disease. And I do pray for him and his family and for the doctors who are treating him...
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Reply #42 - May 23rd, 2008 at 9:47am
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But he almost DID become POTUS! That's the shocking thing. I'm glad he failed & I wish him Godspeed for what's left of his time.
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" From what I remember, she was NOT dead when he left the car and walked to wherever he walked...and did NOT even tell anyone what happened! She died because he DIDN'T say anything to anyone who could have helped. THAT was no accident "


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Reply #44 - May 23rd, 2008 at 12:22pm
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Sioux wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 6:15am:
lotsajizz wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 4:27am:
Sioux wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 10:28pm:
Starbuck wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 11:31am:
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On one level, he's just another OJ Simpson...


oh, come on...teddy didn't murder mary jo. he just got too tipsy to help her swim. awful crime, but not as bad as moider.




From what I remember, she was NOT dead when he left the car and walked to wherever he walked...and did NOT even tell anyone what happened! She died because he DIDN'T say anything to anyone who could have helped. THAT was no accident.



Like Clemons said of Pettitte, you misremember.




Um, I think not. Go back and read about the incident. She lived for awhile after the crash. Kennedy did try to dive down to get her out but couldn't. Then he walked back to the cottage where the party had been, passing at least 4 houses where he could have called for help. He didn't. He got some friends and they wernt back to try to get her out but couldn't. So, the friends went back to the party cottage {not telling anyone what happened at Kennedy's request} and Ted went back to his hotel. He told no one. He went to sleep, woke up, complaining of a loud party in the next door room, woke up in the morning, didn't tell anyone. By 8:00 am, his friends joined him at the hotel and they had a "heated conversation". They went back to the dock, Kennedy called friends for advice. He STILL didn't report the incident to authorities.

That morning, 2 fishermen had seen the car in the water and called authorities. A diver went down and found her body. Her body was pressed up in the car at a point where an air bubble had formed. He said, had he received a call the night before, and had gone down to look for her in the same time frame that he did that morning, she would very likely have been found alive. Kennedy didn't go to the police station until they found that the car was registered in his name.

So, since she could very well had lived had he called for help right away....THAT'S why I said what I said earlier. She did not die on impact. She died a long, horrible death.

THe judge COULD have called for Kennedy's arrest. And they COULD have prosecuted him for manslaughter. But they CHOSE not to........because he was a Kennendy, of course.




True, she didn't die on impact and survived for an indefinite length of time so there was a good chance she could've been saved if proper help had been called for right away.  In this case CYA = Negligent homicide.
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