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Well My Stones Brothers & Sisters .....................


Indiana was just too close  !!!!

Like Lyndon Johnson in 1960 , Hillary for Vice President is the only logical solution .



" She is just a heartbeat away Ronnie !!! "



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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2008 at 10:39pm
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Joey I have heard Hils likes it on top......But if it has to be bottom,so be it....as long she's on for the ride Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2008 at 1:10am
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Many of my Republican friends were very disturbed a few years ago, when I told them i would vote in the Republican primaries and go for the least electable person.
Are those same voices now bothered, that Republicans did the same thing, giving Hillary the win in Indianna? How you gonna feel if she takes the big prize? Doh!?!?
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Well, this is a Rock n Roll (primarily) discussion board (primarily focused on our Stones) and I am shy about even starting to respond on a political concern but...


Many of us have been watching this race and I have been following it as well so here goes...


A win is a win to HRC and her campaign. The bottom line here folks, is that no matter how we slice it and dice this race WILL ultimately be decided by who the super-delegates choose in hopes to Win the November General election. Unless the candidate reaches 2025 delegates (and even then the super-dels can still over-turn it) the race goes to the convention to be decided. They will choose by not only how well the candidates did in the primary but... how well they think they will fare in the general.

Hillary still has her "legitimate bitches" to her argument that the super-delegates should choose her:

1. She has ALL the big chip states. Cal. Penn. Ohio. New York. New Jers...
2. She is the supposed winner in uncounted contests in Florida and Michigan...which she and her supporters feel fall under her belt as legitimate wins (even though they are not supposed to be counted)
3. More of her support claims they will NOT vote for Ohbahma if he is the nominee versus how many of his supporters will vote for her if she is the nominee.
4. For at least right now, she is doing slightly better in polls related to winning head-to-head against Mcain versus Ohbama going head to head with Mcain in November.

*Consequently NEVER has a candidate lost the crucial states Ohbama has lost in the primary (or the general election) and went on to be President. She will argue she is the best in the key states needed in November. She will argue her demographic is the working class, blue collar Americans which make the base of the democratic votes in a general. Those votes are the most needed and crucial for the Dems to win in a general. Obahma falls "considerably enough" short in this category.

She will insist she has more experience and knowledge of Washington.

Many of those Super Dels will see her side of things. No matter what the tally is by the time the convention rolls around.

Just my humble opinion. As crazy as it seems... I think they may decide on Hillary as the nominee based on her "legitimate bitches" I listed above.

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Ian Billen wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 2:12am:
Well, this is a Rock n Roll (primarily) discussion board (primarily focused on our Stones) and I am shy about even starting to respond on a political concern but...


Many of us have been watching this race and I have been following it as well so here goes...


A win is a win to HRC and her campaign. The bottom line here folks, is that no matter how we slice it and dice this race WILL ultimately be decided by who the super-delegates choose in hopes to Win the November General election. Unless the candidate reaches 2025 delegates (and even then the super-dels can still over-turn it) the race goes to the convention to be decided. They will choose by not only how well the candidates did in the primary but... how well they think they will fare in the general.

Hillary still has her "legitimate bitches" to her argument that the super-delegates should choose her:

1. She has ALL the big chip states. Cal. Penn. Ohio. New York. New Jers...
2. She is the supposed winner in uncounted contests in Florida and Michigan...which she and her supporters feel fall under her belt as legitimate wins (even though they are not supposed to be counted)
3. More of her support claims they will NOT vote for Ohbahma if he is the nominee versus how many of his supporters will vote for her if she is the nominee.
4. For at least right now, she is doing slightly better in polls related to winning head-to-head against Mcain versus Ohbama going head to head with Mcain in November.

*Consequently NEVER has a candidate lost the crucial states Ohbama has lost in the primary (or the general election) and went on to be President. She will argue she is the best in the key states needed in November. She will argue her demographic is the working class, blue collar Americans which make the base of the democratic votes in a general. Those votes are the most needed and crucial for the Dems to win in a general. Obahma falls "considerably enough" short in this category.

She will insist she has more experience and knowledge of Washington.

Many of those Super Dels will see her side of things. No matter what the tally is by the time the convention rolls around.

Just my humble opinion. As crazy as it seems... I think they may decide on Hillary as the nominee based on her "legitimate bitches" I listed above.


plus, things were in pretty good shape last time she was in office.
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America will vote McCain in in another slim win because the heartland will reject Obama.Its over for Hillary and he wont tap her for Veep.
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Nobody wants to tap Hillary - she's poison! IanBillen, your political prognostications are as dumb as your Stones-in-the-studio discussions. You must be wise on some matter - Barbie dolls?
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this thread needs a clear exit strategy.
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Reply #8 - May 7th, 2008 at 10:17am
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gimmekeef wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 7:30am:
Its over for Hillary and he wont tap her for Veep.


...than he won't get my vote...
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Reply #9 - May 7th, 2008 at 11:19am
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Some Guy wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 7:47am:
this thread needs a clear exit strategy.

this is quite possibly the funiest thing i've read on this board since 1857.

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" this thread needs a clear exit strategy . "


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Ian Billen wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 2:12am:
Well, this is a Rock n Roll (primarily) discussion board (primarily focused on our Stones) and I am shy about even starting to respond on a political concern but...


Many of us have been watching this race and I have been following it as well so here goes...


A win is a win to HRC and her campaign. The bottom line here folks, is that no matter how we slice it and dice this race WILL ultimately be decided by who the super-delegates choose in hopes to Win the November General election. Unless the candidate reaches 2025 delegates (and even then the super-dels can still over-turn it) the race goes to the convention to be decided. They will choose by not only how well the candidates did in the primary but... how well they think they will fare in the general. 


He only needs 148 to go and even Clinton supporters are urging her to quit.

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Hillary still has her "legitimate bitches" to her argument that the super-delegates should choose her:

1. She has ALL the big chip states. Cal. Penn. Ohio. New York. New Jers...


Not really - she just won a few more delegates than Obama in each state. That was one of the problems with her strategy compared to Obama's. The Clinton strategy was "winning states" while Obama's was collecting delegates. Looks like his worked out better for him.

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2. She is the supposed winner in uncounted contests in Florida and Michigan...which she and her supporters feel fall under her belt as legitimate wins (even though they are not supposed to be counted)


And they shouldn't be. But this is what's going to keep her in until August.

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3. More of her support claims they will NOT vote for Ohbahma if he is the nominee versus how many of his supporters will vote for her if she is the nominee.


In the end everyone will vote for who they are told to. Democrats and Republicans who said they would sit this one out rather than vote for McCain.

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4. For at least right now, she is doing slightly better in polls related to winning head-to-head against Mcain versus Ohbama going head to head with Mcain in November.


General election polls are too unreliable until after Labor Day.

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*Consequently NEVER has a candidate lost the crucial states Ohbama has lost in the primary (or the general election) and went on to be President. She will argue she is the best in the key states needed in November. She will argue her demographic is the working class, blue collar Americans which make the base of the democratic votes in a general. Those votes are the most needed and crucial for the Dems to win in a general. Obahma falls "considerably enough" short in this category.


Working class blue collar have been drifting toward the Republicans in the last few decades. Also, who won what primary really has no bearing on who wins the states in a general election.

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She will insist she has more experience and knowledge of Washington.

Many of those Super Dels will see her side of things. No matter what the tally is by the time the convention rolls around. 


Many will but even more won't. And a lot of super delegates are elected officials and don't want to face their constituents and explain why they took the nomination from someone who got more votes. A few have even changed their vote based upon the popular vote of their congressional districts.

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Just my humble opinion. As crazy as it seems... I think they may decide on Hillary as the nominee based on her "legitimate bitches" I listed above.



A blowout in Indiana might have kept her viable but it's over, aside from any really nasty tricks she might pull in Denver
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" Nobody wants to tap Hillary - she's poison! IanBillen, your political prognostications are as dumb as your Stones-in-the-studio discussions.  "


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Joey wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 11:25am:
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i had hoped gary coleman woudn't find the new board.

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where joey goes, coleman follows. fags of a feather...
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It's over for Cankles to be sure, but in a larger sense it's over for the entire Democrat Party with regards to their presidential aspirations. Hillary would do much better in the general against McCain, but the Dems will give the nod to Barrack just because they fear the fallout of denying him the nomination from the black community. This is why they dare not allow the Florida and Michigan votes to be tallied. For if they were counted Hillary would be up by a goodly margin, and the blacks would cry voter fraud from the rooftops all over the country! Which is kinda funny considering the Dem Party has screwed the black community for decades now. In NC the black population gave him the blowout, but he has lost almost the entire white vote ever since the Rev Wright story broke. The only white votes that he got with any consistency was that of the white college kids that know shit about the world.


McCain is gonna win this thing by a very large margin if Obama is the nominee. Obama has lost the blue collar white vote, and his lame ass excuses for Rev. Wright have not helped him at all.


Thank god! I mean both Cankles and Obama are socialists, but Obama is a Marxist follower of Sal Alinsky's ideology. He would do everything he could to destroy capitalism, and the very foundations that this country was based on. Thankfully he'll never get that chance.




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It seems the Wright issue is fading and McCain is refusing to exploit it for what it's worth. Wonder if the fact that Wright is trying to intentionally sabotage Obama has anything to do with it?
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Riffhard wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 1:14pm:
It's over for Cankles to be sure, but in a larger sense it's over for the entire Democrat Party with regards to their presidential aspirations. Hillary would do much better in the general against McCain, but the Dems will give the nod to Barrack just because they fear the fallout of denying him the nomination from the black community. This is why they dare not allow the Florida and Michigan votes to be tallied. For if they were counted Hillary would be up by a goodly margin, and the blacks would cry voter fraud from the rooftops all over the country! Which is kinda funny considering the Dem Party has screwed the black community for decades now. In NC the black population gave him the blowout, but he has lost almost the entire white vote ever since the Rev Wright story broke. The only white votes that he got with any consistency was that of the white college kids that know shit about the world.


McCain is gonna win this thing by a very large margin if Obama is the nominee. Obama has lost the blue collar white vote, and his lame ass excuses for Rev. Wright have not helped him at all.


Thank god! I mean both Cankles and Obama are socialists, but Obama is a Marxist follower of Sal Alinsky's ideology. He would do everything he could to destroy capitalism, and the very foundations that this country was based on. Thankfully he'll never get that chance.




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I thought Cankles was the Saul Alinsky follower? Be that as it may, I'm just so happy that the Clintoons are DONE! I think Obama is horrid but I hated the idea of those 2 assholes back in the WH. McCain looks good for the win but he's somewhat non-aggressive. Shades of Doley Bob?
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Mc Cain/Obama/Clinton...I'd feel better if we were down to Curley Larry or Moe...hell even Shemp!
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gimmekeef wrote on May 7th, 2008 at 1:54pm:
Mc Cain/Obama/Clinton...I'd feel better if we were down to Curley Larry or Moe...hell even Shemp!

Which one is Moe?
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