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May 1st, 2008 at 2:33pm
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From cnn.com May 1, 2008.

DC Madam found dead in FLA...apparent suicide.   http://www.cnn.com/
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Reply #1 - May 1st, 2008 at 2:50pm
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Don't you feel safer now?
Now that the foxes run the chicken house.
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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2008 at 3:32pm
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2008 at 3:34pm
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" DC Madam found dead in FLA...apparent suicide.   "

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Hey....we got ways of dealing with trouble makers.

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Wayland Flowers has an airtight alibi.

He's dead.
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Reply #6 - May 1st, 2008 at 7:30pm
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Har har har, you all, but WTF?  They threw the book at this woman, giving her like 10-20 years for running a fucking escort service.  Big deal! Her life was ruined, so she ended it.  There's much much worse shit that goes down in Washington and everywhere else that doesn't warrant this kind of draconian sentence.  This is tragic if you ask me.
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Reply #7 - May 2nd, 2008 at 2:08pm
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You're right.  Running an escort service is hardly a capital crime.    She was made a scape goat with tragic consequences.  She said she didn't want to be like one of her employees who committed suicide in Jan. 2007.
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Reply #8 - May 2nd, 2008 at 2:12pm
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Poor gal just trying to make a more honest living than 90% of the people in Washington.Bet she treated her employees better too.
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Reply #9 - May 2nd, 2008 at 3:14pm
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Absolutely ridiculous, almost treasonous, that one dime, much less millions of $$$$$ of federal taxpayer funds, was diverted away from the War on Terror or Homeland Security to prosecute this case.  The woman made money setting up meetings between consenting adults - assuming the silly illegality of it, way less harmful to society than, for example, 25+ in a school zone.

Who made the decision to Fat the taxpayer?  She/he should be removed from their position immediately, before they further denigrate national security.
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Reply #10 - May 2nd, 2008 at 4:16pm
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Prostitution, drugs ect... are not criminal issues, they are only health issues, and the hijacked republican party should be treating them properly, not using these as wedge issues ect...
Wake up people... Fear or Common Sense!!!
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Reply #11 - May 2nd, 2008 at 4:31pm
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Factory Girl wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 2:08pm:
Zack,

You're right.  Running an escort service is hardly a capital crime.    She was made a scape goat with tragic consequences.  She said she didn't want to be like one of her employees who committed suicide in Jan. 2007.


It wasn't the escort service that did her in she was also convicted of money laundering..........
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Reply #12 - May 2nd, 2008 at 4:50pm
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cabledogg2 wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 4:31pm:
Factory Girl wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 2:08pm:
Zack,

You're right.  Running an escort service is hardly a capital crime.    She was made a scape goat with tragic consequences.  She said she didn't want to be like one of her employees who committed suicide in Jan. 2007.


It wasn't the escort service that did her in she was also convicted of money laundering..........



Which wouldn't exist if this was treated like a health issue, and not made illegal. In fact, it would be a taxable service!
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Reply #13 - May 2nd, 2008 at 4:55pm
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cabledogg2 wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 4:31pm:
Factory Girl wrote on May 2nd, 2008 at 2:08pm:
Zack,

You're right.  Running an escort service is hardly a capital crime.    She was made a scape goat with tragic consequences.  She said she didn't want to be like one of her employees who committed suicide in Jan. 2007.


It wasn't the escort service that did her in she was also convicted of money laundering..........


Money laundering is alleged any time someone makes money off what is also alleged to be criminal behavior - its practically a redundant charge.  If I paid you $10 to get high on crack, and you fired up and took the money, and put it in your socks, you'd be laundering it.
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Reply #14 - May 2nd, 2008 at 5:30pm
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Reply #15 - May 3rd, 2008 at 1:24pm
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I can't believe more people are not questioning this "suicide". Suicide my ass. Someone didn't want her trading names for time off of prison.

She died exactly the same way that Brandy Britton (her employee) died and I don't think that, for one minute, Brandy's death was a suicide either.

What woman, particularly women like these who are accustomed to finer things, hangs themself? In a shed in a trailer park for fuck's sake?

If Deborah wanted to off herself because she didn't want to do 4-8 years in prison (which was all she was going to serve anyway), she would check herself into the Waldorf-Astoria, have herself a fattening meal, and then take some pills.

Perhaps this was the work of a man (men) and someone who wanted to humilitate and silence these women. A lot of high level people wanted the DC Madame dead to save their high level asses from some high level scandal.


Randall L. Tobias resigned as a deputy secretary of state after acknowledging to ABC News that he used Palfrey's service, although he said he received only massages.

Palfrey has said military strategist Harlan Ullman was a regular client. Ullman, who created the concept of "shock and awe" that the U.S. used to open hostilities against Iraq, has declined to discuss what he called "outrageous allegations."

Sen. David Vitter has acknowledged being involved with Palfrey's escort service. The married Louisiana Republican apologized for "a very serious sin," but has avoided follow-up questions. He was not called as a witness at Palfrey's trial.

Serious sin, my ass. It was only a sin when you got caught and I guarantee his ass would still be doing some serious sinning had he not been caught.

I ran an escort service myself for 6 years, albeit a small one, and it was win-win for everyone involved. The girls were not druggies or victimized or underaged or trafficked. They were college students and single moms who good things with their lives and for their families with this money.

High level men screw escorts aaaaaaaaaaall the damn time. Jesus Horatio Christ, the people I ran into in my 6 year business stint. Mayors of large cities, sports figures, CEOs of large companies, some very very prominent people all the way down to regular Joes and the business is positively huge and the money is outrageous. Once a guy can get a nubile, sexually skilled young woman to have sex with him with no strings attached (save the 300-800 bucks an hour) and appear as if she is actually enjoying it, it is absolutely addicting for men and the money is addicting for the women.

The industry will thrive even in the worst of times. Men need sex (if you are not having sex with your partner, trust me, he's probably getting it elsewhere or he is a walking time bomb with blue balls) and most men, despite adoring and being committed to their wives, need strange. It is programmed into them simply by being male and smart women realize this and they turn their heads. Seeing escorts is a hell of a lot more responsible than screwing your secretary (or intern), knocking her up and breaking up your marriage and hurting your children. It's just that in America, they want to criminalize it and waste the tapayers money and the police resources. The police are more than happy to earn their money getting naked with pretty women and then busting them as opposed to go after people who will actually shoot at them or something.

All of the other civilized nations of the world have legalized prostitution. "Pimping" usually is illegal, but when I ran a service in the UK, the cops NEVER bothered the agency owners ever unless they thought there were underaged girls in their employ (which then is a really good time to use police resources because children need police protection). That left the UK agency owners with more resources to protect the girls from the crazies when they didn't have to protect them from "Law Enforcement". In fact, 100% of the screening in the UK is contra-psycho. In the States, most of the time spent screening is done to make sure it isn't an LE sting. God Bless America!

Yes, Money laundering is a pretty redundant charge. And the fact that she supposedly made over 2 million in 13 years? I find that extremely hard to believe. 6-8 million would be much more believable to me. She had 137 (or so) employees over that period of time. 2 million is most likely what she actually paid taxes on. Yes, escort services pay their taxes. The IRS doesn't give a damn what you do for the money, the just want their share of it and they will take their money no matter how "dirty" it is (but they won't be convicted on laundering..lol).

The women end up dead or in jail and the men who order the services walk off Scot free or with some scandal and a resignation, but with their lives and freedom. THEY aren't getting any jail time or hanging from beams in sheds for being the johns. God Bless America on more glorious time for that!
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Reply #16 - May 3rd, 2008 at 8:28pm
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"I can't believe more people are not questioning this "suicide". "

Don't question authority. The police said it, the pundits parrot it, that settles it.  Shocked

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While it's sad, I'm sure the cops wouldn't just make up a suicide claim if there was any evidence to prove otherwise. That said, these cases are indeed a waste of my tax money & something rational should be done.
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May 5, 2008 at 18:02:44

Love Connection? Abramoff and the D.C. Madam
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Recent days have brought two major justice-related stories. Could they be connected? Let's take a look.

First came a guilty plea from former Justice Department official Robert Coughlin on conflict-of-interest charges connected to disgraced Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Then came word that Deborah Jeane Palfrey, better known as the D.C. Madam, had apparently committed suicide at her mother's home in Tarpon Springs, Florida.

In Legal Times splendid account of the Coughlin plea, an e-mail exchange between two Abramoff lobbyists is cited. The lobbyists are Kevin Ring and Padgett Wilson, and Ring is telling Wilson about a celebration to honor Justice Department officials who helped bring home $16 million for an Abramoff client, the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians. "Come to the show, baby," Couglin says. Here is how Wilson responds:

"Are there any tickets left?" asked Wilson, now director of governmental affairs for Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue. He then submitted: "And as for those DOJ staffers, those guys should get anything they want for the rest of the time they are in office -- opening day tickets, Skins v. Giants, oriental massages, hookers, whatever."

So there you have it: One Abramoff associate indicating to another that prostitutes are to be part of the pay off for Justice Department officials who further the sleazy Team Abramoff cause.

Then a few days later, we learn that Ms. Palfrey, who ran one of the most well known high-end prostitution services in the D.C. area, is found hanging in a shed behind her mother's mobile home.

Does this prove that Palfrey's death was something other than a suicide, which is the official version from Tampa-area law enforcement? No. But could a reasonable mind take these two events and ask, "Is this one heck of a coincidence--the public learns that Abramoff lackies evidently were plying Justice Department officials with hookers and then a few days later one of the D.C. areas most renowned practitioners of the prostitution trade is found dead?"

Time magazine was first out with a story saying Palfrey had discussed the possibility of suicide with a writer named Dan Moldea. "She wasn't going to jail, she told me that very clearly," Moldea said. "She told me she would commit suicide."

But Moldea's account does not square with Palfrey's own words. One Web site presents audio of Palfrey saying she would not commit suicide and that she probably would be a victim of a murder made to look like a suicide.

The Coughlin case also brings to mind the case of former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, who resigned after getting nabbed in a prostitution-related investigation. Is anyone investigating the possibility that Team Abramoff, and their "friendlies" in the Justice Department, violated federal law regarding the transport of prostitutes over state lines? That's apparently what got Spitzer into doo-doo. What about folks in the Justice Department, the very organization that led the Spitzer organization?

A major theme of the Bush Justice Department scandal has to do with double standards. Actions that become federal crimes when "committed" by a Democrat are ignored when committed by Republicans, or people associated with GOP supporters.

Could a serious investigation into the Coughlin case and the D.C. madam suicide unearth evidence of a particularly noxious double standard?


Here is something else to keep in mind regarding the D.C. madam death: Hanging is a fairly unusual form of suicide for a woman. According to statistics at suicide.org, the two most common methods of suicide for women, by far, are poisons (overdosing, etc.) at 37.8 percent and firearms at 32.4 percent. Hanging, strangulation, and suffocation are grouped together and come in third at 19.7 percent. But if we can assume that true hanging makes up only one-third of that group, it seems that only a little more than 6 percent of female suicides use the method found in the D.C. Madam case.
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Does this prove that Palfrey's death was something other than a suicide, which is the official version from Tampa-area law enforcement? No. But could a reasonable mind take these two events and ask, "Is this one heck of a coincidence--the public learns that Abramoff lackies evidently were plying Justice Department officials with hookers and then a few days later one of the D.C. areas most renowned practitioners of the prostitution trade is found dead?" 
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Reply #20 - May 6th, 2008 at 9:03pm
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While I keep an open mind (wa-a-ay open)on the conspiracy angle...do you know how hard it would be to set up a fake suicide in a trailer park shed with nobody seeing it?  Ever seen a trailer park and its crew in the daytime?  They have fuck-all else to do but spy on each other.

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