Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118

No doubt further info will be forthcoming

Intriguing titles :

Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost

Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week

I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon.....

This seems rather all outta the blue...at least to me, unless I missed some recent news...

How is he working on solo stuff with all this supposed work being done on the new album...walks in the park with the dancer and the child...the Jagger machine pens and records and is in pre-release mode  of 2 new songs ( that we know of) and the Stones machine pens....well...an unconfirmed amount, though rumored to be 10-15...since GRRRRR's D&G and OMS with no ETA established?!?

Same old smoke and mirrors from where I troll...

Maybe Sir Paul was right...concentrate on the older stuff...pull out a half dozen gems and KEEP them in the rotation...if  a Stones fan has NOT seen SMU, MY, SSC, HTW, TD by now...its THEIR OWN DAMN FAULT

Where IS that setlist bitching thread, anyways?!?

Can't wait to muse on & groove to these ditties.

Could 'England Lost' be a zeit-trousery track, with echoes of Dury's England's Glory, Milton's Paradise Lost. Rotten's England's Dreaming, Big Will's 'Love's Labours Lost' and Joyce Grenfell's Lost Song etc.?

Happy days.

Did Ian predict this?

:nanker

Gazza wrote on Jul 8^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan. http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118 No doubt further info will be forthcoming Intriguing titles : Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon.....

'
sad sad sad

I'm boycotting this shit.

This tune is what I referenced in the other thread. IORR is all over this one.

I'll bet anyone any amount of money that this new tune is going to be a hard rocker and we'll all be asking, "Why didn't he save this for the Stones?"

I'm fed up.

Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 7:42am:

I'll bet anyone any amount of money that this new tune is going to be a hard rocker and we'll all be asking, "Why didn't he save this for the Stones?" I'm fed up.

Whaaaat?

I wonder if this is associated with one of his dodgy films. The B side sounds soundtracky. If not, I'd love to hear his solo stuff. It is filled with feeble attempts at being current, but some of that stuff is wonderful. Sweet Thing is a perfect example.

leonid wrote on Jul 8^th, 2017 at 11:22pm:

Did Ian predict this? :nanker

:D ;D :warhorse :waka-jawaka

The Wick wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 11:27am:

I wonder if this is associated with one of his dodgy films. The B side sounds soundtracky. If not, I'd love to hear his solo stuff. It is filled with feeble attempts at being current, but some of that stuff is wonderful. Sweet Thing is a perfect example.

That is a good point...could have been for Vinyl Season 2...however...

Gazza wrote on Jul 8^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan. http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118 No doubt further info will be forthcoming Intriguing titles : Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon.....

__________________________________________


Four words:

What-is-the-point - - - - ?

Nobody cares about a new 'Mick Jagger' release right now... of any sort.


Folks care about New <Rolling Stones> Material... nothing else at the moment.


These guys are sure as F*******K in no hurry or rush to finish a Rolling Stones album now are they.

I gotta say .. this is ridiculous and I am sure Universal isn't very happy (which Mick hinted at last year).

I mean .. they are not exactly 27 .. and Universal (as well as fans) want an album.. Universals wanted an 'all new material' studio release for two years now .. Still no friggin sign of it.


Yet Mick's coming out with a single.. Uhhhhhh ...Ok ...Good One Mick? 

Nobody Cares at the moment there Mick.. In fact this only leaves everyone more frustrated. Concentrate On Stones Material ..Thanks -

I don't think there's going to be new Stones material.

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 3:30pm: Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan. http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118 No doubt further info will be forthcoming Intriguing titles : Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon..... Point is, I doubt their is widespread interest from Universal or friends in a new Stones album. Other than diehards. I doubt seriously there is strong interest in new material. Universal is much more interested in the  back catalog and fans just want to hear Jumping Jack Flash again. So Mick flexs his creative juices. Such as they are..............And puts out a song or two. It'll get the same reaction as a new Stones album.............Oh and most importantly. You were wrong about about them being in the studio. ;D >:( :interestingstuffronnie :blankfriggingstare1 __________________________________________ Four words: What-is-the-point - - - - ? Nobody cares about a new 'Mick Jagger' release right now... of any sort. Folks care about New <Rolling Stones> Material... nothing else at the moment. These guys are sure as F*******K in no hurry or rush to finish a Rolling Stones album now are they. I gotta say .. this is ridiculous and I am sure Universal isn't very happy (which Mick hinted at last year). I mean .. they are not exactly 27 .. and Universal (as well as fans) want an album.. Universals wanted an 'all new material' studio release for two years now .. Still no friggin sign of it. Yet Mick's coming out with a single.. Uhhhhhh ...Ok ...Good One Mick?  Nobody Cares at the moment there Mick.. In fact this only leaves everyone more frustrated. Concentrate On Stones Material ..Thanks -

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 9:12pm:

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 9th, 2017 at 5:05pm: Gazza wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 3:30pm: Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan. http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118 No doubt further info will be forthcoming Intriguing titles : Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon..... Point is, I doubt their is widespread interest from Universal or friends in a new Stones album. Other than diehards. I doubt seriously there is strong interest in new material. Universal is much more interested in the  back catalog and fans just want to hear Jumping Jack Flash again. So Mick flexs his creative juices. Such as they are..............And puts out a song or two. It'll get the same reaction as a new Stones album.............Oh and most importantly. You were wrong about about them being in the studio. ;D >:( :interestingstuffronnie :blankfriggingstare1 __________________________________________ Four words: What-is-the-point - - - - ? Nobody cares about a new 'Mick Jagger' release right now... of any sort. Folks care about New <Rolling Stones> Material... nothing else at the moment. These guys are sure as F*******K in no hurry or rush to finish a Rolling Stones album now are they. I gotta say .. this is ridiculous and I am sure Universal isn't very happy (which Mick hinted at last year). I mean .. they are not exactly 27 .. and Universal (as well as fans) want an album.. Universals wanted an 'all new material' studio release for two years now .. Still no friggin sign of it. Yet Mick's coming out with a single.. Uhhhhhh ...Ok ...Good One Mick?  Nobody Cares at the moment there Mick.. In fact this only leaves everyone more frustrated. Concentrate On Stones Material ..Thanks -

___________________________


They were in the studio for certain. Late May and into June.

They were working on their new album. That isn't my opinion .. that is fact.

I've never been so discouraged with this band. Blue and Lonesome was great, but it was all covers. I want new Stones material in 2017.

Don't Worry !!
It's just Superheavy Outtakes  ;D

Ian Billen wrote on Jul 9^th, 2017 at 5:05pm:

Gazza wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 3:30pm: Thanks to Nico for finding this on HMV Japan. http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mick-Jagger_000000000005096/item_Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost_8046118 No doubt further info will be forthcoming Intriguing titles : Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost Mick was reported to be filming a promo video for 'Gotta Get A Grip' earlier this week I guess this means that we wont be getting that Stones studio album any time soon..... __________________________________________ Four words: What-is-the-point - - - - ? Nobody cares about a new 'Mick Jagger' release right now... of any sort. Folks care about New <Rolling Stones> Material... nothing else at the moment. These guys are sure as F*******K in no hurry or rush to finish a Rolling Stones album now are they. I gotta say .. this is ridiculous and I am sure Universal isn't very happy (which Mick hinted at last year). I mean .. they are not exactly 27 .. and Universal (as well as fans) want an album.. Universals wanted an 'all new material' studio release for two years now .. Still no friggin sign of it. Yet Mick's coming out with a single.. Uhhhhhh ...Ok ...Good One Mick?  Nobody Cares at the moment there Mick.. In fact this only leaves everyone more frustrated. Concentrate On Stones Material ..Thanks -

Hardly anyone over 16 buys or downloads singles. And they sure as fuck dont buy singles made by a 73 year old man.

Apparently there was another video being made for the B-side as well.

And as you'll see in the link I'm about to post below. it appears that there are more than these 2 songs in the pipeline....

Mick Jagger Spotted in the Studio With British Rapper Skepta
By Jeff Giles July 10, 2017 10:29 AM
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2017/07/JaggerSkepta.jpg

Kevin Winter / Gareth Cattermole, Getty Images


While Rolling Stones fans wait to find out what’s happening with the band’s next album, singer Mick Jagger is busying himself with other projects — including studio time with British rapper Skepta.
Not yet a household name in the States, Skepta has been at the forefront of London’s grime scene for years, and won the prestigious Mercury Prize in 2016 for his fourth album, Konnichiwa. Although that album topped out at No. 160 on the U.S. chart, he’s increasing his profile on this side of the Atlantic, most recently through the release of his single “Hypocrisy.”
Without going into detail about whatever the duo might be up to, Skepta shared a photo of himself in the studio with Jagger, depicting what appears to be the two in the midst of a conversation with an unseen third party. The picture was taken by Midnight Studios founder Shane Gonzales, who Metro quotes as describing the session as “one of the most inspiring days of my life.”

Link to Instagram Pic here :
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWXRjMlBZjK/

If Skepta and Jagger are collaborating, it’s for a project that’s taken root very recently. Speaking with NME in May, the MC said that instead of focusing on his next album, he was “working on how I’m gonna do good for what’s happening on Earth at the moment,” adding, “At every stage of my life, I’ve always wanted to do good for Earth.” As far as millions of fans are concerned, getting Jagger in front of a microphone definitely fits that description.


http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mick-jagger-rapper-skepta/

I'm skepta-cal about all of this. >:( :will-ya

We are underwhelmed.

Can't wait to hear Keith's review.  :wtf1

fire up the presses

Edith Grove wrote on Jul 11^th, 2017 at 4:03pm:

Can't wait to hear Keith's review.  :wtf1

Good one!  ;D

Mick still trying to be trendy. I already know I don't like this.

Just release it already, let's get this shit over with.

Although I always support MICK's solo efforts, if this is anything like SuperHeavy, it will be collecting dust in my collection. I took it out the other day and put it right back because I couldn't stand to put myself through that torture of an album.

Sorry MICK, I love you truly but why insist on doing this trendy shit? Why not put some effort into new Stones material instead? 

It's got rapping in the middle of the song?  I can't wait to hear it! Yay!

embrace the suck.

Some Guy wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:39am:

embrace the suck.

worse than the pirates of the carribean?

he can release a single and Stones release new stuff, later.
How is this mutually exclusive?

Keith put out a solo album and Stones put out a record 2015, and 2016.... this is just a single... we could see an album, and if we don't.
Oh well...
At least they're alive and still tour.

Some Guy wrote on Jul 13^th, 2017 at 6:39am:

embrace the suck.

Isn't that what Trump supporters say?  >:( :( :stinkypost :boring

:weed

Bitch wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Although I always support MICK's solo efforts, if this is anything like SuperHeavy, it will be collecting dust in my collection. I took it out the other day and put it right back because I couldn't stand to put myself through that torture of an album. Sorry MICK, I love you truly but why insist on doing this trendy shit? Why not put some effort into new Stones material instead?

He did. He's been working on a Stones album on and off for a year and a half.

Maybe he just has a LOT of songs and some of them aren't suitable for a Stones project.

'Gotta Get A Grip' (a little twist on or little echo of 'Gotta Get Away'?) will hopefully be as hot as Garbine Muguruza.

Given the gripping reference, could this be a tune about tennis, golf, cricket or masturbation?

Is it the summer of Pouff, the summer of Muff or the summer of Nuff?

It's all fairly exciting.

Gazza wrote on Jul 15^th, 2017 at 5:04pm:

Maybe he just has a LOT of songs and some of them aren't suitable for a Stones project.

Hmmmm....Keef and the band didnt think this little ditty was good enough... maybe Skepta will do it ;D ;D ;D :weed :weed :weed

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 2:39am:

'Gotta Get A Grip' (a little twist on or little echo of 'Gotta Get Away'?) will hopefully be as hot as Garbine Muguruza. Given the gripping reference, could this be a tune about tennis, golf, cricket or masturbation? Is it the summer of Pouff, the summer of Muff or the summer of Nuff? It's all fairly exciting.

congrats to Muguruza and Roger!

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 10^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

I'm skepta-cal about all of this. >:( :will-ya

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
HaaaaHaha . Thanks for making me laugh. In the absence of new Stones entertainment material I'm appreciative of entertainment from y'all.

Also, ya...funny what you, Edith Grove say about wondering what Keith will have to say about all this...and, mojoman: ya "fire up the presses"! Haaaaa ha!

I CAN'T IMAGINE how hard it will be for Keith to not react, out loud, verbally, "on the record" so to speak, meaning to the media, with such a temptation this likely might present.

Some Guy: Haa ha ha--- ya, "embrace the suck"-but if this sounds like RAP CRAP I fear Mick has gone tooooo far this time.... after 55 years of not making TOO bad of musical missteps, he has to falter this badly -OH  Noooooo! Noooooo!

Also, Some Guy: I agree with your comment to"just release it already, let's get this shit over with." Pullin' the covers over my head until this incident passes.

Steel Wheels and everyone here who finds this painful, perhaps this is a time to go into collective mental denial of the entire event

Bitch wrote on Jul 12^th, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Although I always support MICK's solo efforts, if this is anything like SuperHeavy, it will be collecting dust in my collection. I took it out the other day and put it right back because I couldn't stand to put myself through that torture of an album. Sorry MICK, I love you truly but why insist on doing this trendy shit? Why not put some effort into new Stones material instead?

I agree.
I never woulda NEVER thought there would come a day, no matter what, when Mick Jagger and RAP would ever cross paths in composing.

It should drop this week?

Some Guy wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 6:54am:

It should drop this week?

Yup like the turd it will be....

gimmekeef wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 7:33am:

Some Guy wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:54am: It should drop this week? Yup like the turd it will be....

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++ +++::) ::) ::)Haaaa! Ha! You guys are merciless in re. to this Mick Mis-Step.

You're just so graphic. ;D ;D ;D

You're making it too funny, making me laugh too much--it's interfering with my attempts to achieve a mental state of denial as a coping mechanism.

But I see laughter is actually the best coping mechanism. Ahh! I'm now enlightened.  (Light bulb emoji is needed here.)

P.S./MODIFY/ :D: For what it's worth, I gotta say this appears to be the most irreverent of all  Stones fan sites I've come across in my journey's over the past almost 3 years now. Yay! :D

One point of clarification FWIW-I don't have any problem with the fact that Mick is doing any little bits here of solo work-that's not the point.

My problem/horror is the RAP part. RAP?? REALLY??? Abomination!! Aaaaaanythng but RAP CRAP!!

How on earth will Keith ever keep a straight face in Mick's presence again?

oops double post

[/quote] I never woulda NEVER thought there would come a day, no matter what, when Mick Jagger and RAP would ever cross paths in composing. [/quote]

Err...
'Shattered'? (Which pretty much invented or defined urban rap lyricism)
'Too Much Bloodclaat'?
And so forth.

And just because MJ is using a grime producer doesn't (necessarily) mean it will be rap or grime, or rap or grime as we know it.


Pull your finger out, tauk.

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Err... 'Shattered'? (Which pretty much invented or defined urban rap lyricism)

cRAP or PUNK ? The debate continues.......


https://youtu.be/W_4NzaPSVB4

Is Jagger trending?

Are you "RO ffers" Bustin my Chops with this thread?!

Heres 1 for Ya https://youtu.be/kFVSounqKEU

Ain't Rap?

this thread is crackin me Up ;D

https://www.instagram.com/p/BWrXRqDAoLQ/

tauk wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 9:55am:

One point of clarification FWIW-I don't have any problem with the fact that Mick is doing any little bits here of solo work-that's not the point. My problem/horror is the RAP part. RAP?? REALLY??? Abomination!! Aaaaaanythng but RAP CRAP!! How on earth will Keith ever keep a straight face in Mick's presence again?

With this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVRuujXYke8

As long as it's good, I have no problem with anything, including rap. The problem is that there is very little good out there and most of Mick's attempts at this type of stuff are awful. Superheavy was dismal.

However, without Mick's willingness to experiment, the Stones wouldn't even be 1/10 of the band that they are. He has always done this from the band's earliest days and always will. Out of it comes some magical stuff so I don't mind that he tries, but I don't always like it.

So...I guess this doesn't count any longer?
The Biz Markie drop towards the end...dumb as shit...but I like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinwuzZVjnE

Hip-hopping with Hindus as hot as vindaloos
and
Down inya cups at the pub after being up for the cup

...as a double-A side?

Is that the gorgeous gist of it?

nothing?

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 19^th, 2017 at 2:04am:

Hip-hopping with Hindus as hot as vindaloos and Down inya cups at the pub after being up for the cup ...as a double-A side? Is that the gorgeous gist of it?

hot hindu honeys
peeing in a cup?

tauk wrote on Jul 17^th, 2017 at 3:36am:

Bitch wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 9:53pm: Although I always support MICK's solo efforts, if this is anything like SuperHeavy, it will be collecting dust in my collection. I took it out the other day and put it right back because I couldn't stand to put myself through that torture of an album. Sorry MICK, I love you truly but why insist on doing this trendy shit? Why not put some effort into new Stones material instead?  I agree. I never woulda NEVER thought there would come a day, no matter what, when Mick Jagger and RAP would ever cross paths in composing.

Actually, in Anybody Seen My Baby (1997), Bernard does a little rap. 

We came to rock for Brooklyn
And Queens, and Manhattan
And The Bronx, And Staten Island
I can't forget New Jersey, and Long Island
And all over the world, we came to rock for everybody like just this.

Tension.

Is it out? Anybody know? Anybody care?

Been looking for it...cant find it anywhere...I was hoping my girls could premiere it on their radio show today...especially after the Rocks Off shout out last week for the 19th anniversary (thank you for all the kind feedback)


WCOM Carrboro 4-5pm EST [GMT-4]
http://wcomfm.org/listen-live/

If I can get it for them, they will play it...stay tuned

If anyone finds it...please PM me link or file if you can...it will earn you a BIG shout out...thanks in advance

fuck it

This smells like bad info posted on the original Japanese website.
Nothing ever posted on official Jagger page.
No record company ads.
Why would Jagger put out a song called "England Lost."
For the longest time he's been in the good graces of the government. Why would Sir Mick jeopardize that?

I just looked up Mick's Twitter timeline. There's not a word about a new single there either. (It also kinda looks like it's been taken over by some fangirl lately too. Just links to YouTube videos and old pics of when he was young and pretty.)

Artiest:
     
Mick Jagger
Titel:
     
Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost
Release:
     
28 Juli 2017  Het is mogelijk dat de release datum later wordt
Maatschappij:
     
Universal (uk)
EAN:
     
0602557810004
Tracks:
     
01 Gotta Get A Grip
02 England Lost

https://thatsentertainment.nl/index.php?item=mick-jagger---gotta-get-a-grip-_-england-lost--2tr_-cd-single&action=article&aid=12527&lang=nl#.WXNlV1EjXRY

""Het is mogelijk dat de release datum later wordt""

translation:

it is possible that the release date will be delayed

Hmmm . . . so where is the song???  Will it be released on July 28th?

HOAX??

FAKE MICK

We're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

"FAKE MICK"  :D

Some Guy wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 8:13am:

We're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

Potatos work better for that.

KMC wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 10:03pm:

This smells like bad info posted on the original Japanese website. Nothing ever posted on official Jagger page. No record company ads. Why would Jagger put out a song called "England Lost." For the longest time he's been in the good graces of the government. Why would Sir Mick jeopardize that?

Is that a serious question?  ;D

Some Guy wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 8:13am:

We're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe.

My sources tell me it will be released July 32nd.

Gazza wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2017 at 5:46pm:

KMC wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 10:03pm: This smells like bad info posted on the original Japanese website. Nothing ever posted on official Jagger page. No record company ads. Why would Jagger put out a song called "England Lost." For the longest time he's been in the good graces of the government. Why would Sir Mick jeopardize that? Is that a serious question?  ;D

Maybe its his commentary on Brixit...he was quite vocal ( I mean he didnt sing about it or anything)  on Scotland staying in the Union during the recent referendum...

are we done here?

My comment on Jagger jeopardizing his status with the English govt. was strictly in keeping with the humor of this mysterious single release.

As much as we would have liked to see something/anything new from Mick and/or the group, we've been had. Big time. Bummer!

His Facebook page and website are hinting that there is something imminent.

Let's do it. I'm a very busy man.

'Gotta Get A Grope' Official Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw6FxEGDCY&feature=youtu.be

As wicked as it steams.

Thanks WOAF

Here the three version

https://youtu.be/rYw6FxEGDCY

https://youtu.be/7s8LGna91OM

https://youtu.be/3oBIgU9eIGc

'England Lust' Official Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98gj0z0RkXE

https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE

https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE

England lost Great !!!!

Sounds like Fingerprint File  , all the Jagger detractors are F....off ? ;D

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/gliedo/i7-gotta-get-a-grip_zps2g33tmip.jpg

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:43am:

'Gotta Get A Grope' Official Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYw6FxEGDCY&feature=youtu.be As wicked as it steams.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

to waitering: ^^^Indeed!^^^ STEAMS!  :)

I really like both of these songs including all of the different versions -3 for Gotta Get a Grip & 2 for England Lost per YT. All of them "rock" in that new kind of way== (I'm showing my age here.)

"Grip's" rousing, energetic beat and exhortation "to get a grip" is having a good, energizing effect on me right now, which I've been needing. BADLY NEEDING.

Who knows..maybe if I keep playing this today I'll actually break my 3 year run of being exercised-blocked. :) (Now where did I put my stationary bike?)

As usual, Mick's lyrics still contain some sarcastic humor:

Grip-- "Intellectuals, shut your mouth!"

England may have lost but imo Jagger scores here.

I still can't see or hear anyone's posting of videos here nor can I post any-- still getting only the white, blank rectangles

I don't think this version of the version of England Lost has been posted here yet
feat. Skepta With Lyrics

https://youtu.be/o3CfxgXfDxo

https://youtu.be/iw_eya9Fduc

It ain't no Cross Eyed Heart...but better than I was expecting. Hopefully Keef bites his tongue and they back in the studio soon.

Voodoo-your last post ^^^
is haunting me most.

It has left me in a dangle
it doesn't even have that rectangle
containing the "Great White Abyss"
Something is Amiss!  ;)

Jagger's yes men are not doing anybody any favors.

Wow! Cut off my legs and call me "Shorty"!
There actually are two new songs!
Both have a "groove" thing going, rather than rocking.
As Keith would say, "Where's the Chuck Berry?"
Will have to listen a lot more to get a better feel.
Glad to have something new though!

BOTH ARE FUCKIN EXCELLENT.

With better planning time-wise and a better producer (Pharrel Williams, Trent Reznor) GGaG could have been a contender for the Song of Summer

The remixes are decent...I really like the Seeb remix

The video...whatta mess...can anyone explain wtf is happening in this story

'Rolling Stone' interview

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/mick-jagger-addresses-political-anxiety-on-two-new-songs-w494506

Mick Jagger Gets Political, Addresses U.K. 'Anxiety' on Two New Songs

‘’We obviously have a lot of problems," Rolling Stones singer says of "England Lost" and "Gotta Get a Grip." "So am I politically optimistic? … No"

By Jon Blistein

Mick Jagger unveiled two politically charged new songs, "England Lost" and "Get a Grip." The Rolling Stones singer said he penned the tracks in response to the "anxiety [and] unknowability of the changing political situation." He added, "We obviously have a lot of problems. So am I politically optimistic? … No."

"England Lost" boasts a bluesy breakbeat and finds Jagger recounting the story of a disappointing the real football match, which serves as an analogy for this "difficult moment in our history." He continued, "It's about the unknowability about where you are and the feeling of insecurity. That's how I was feeling when I was writing. It's obviously got a fair amount of humor because I don't like anything too on the nose but it's also got a sense of vulnerability of where we are as a country."

The noir-style video for "England Lost" follows a jittery businessman who discovers he's being followed after leaving work. A chase ensues as the man runs through London then out into the countryside where things get even weirder. The man is hit by a bicyclist, then a car, then dashes into the ocean where he's apprehended by two men who drag him ashore. The townspeople surround him and a little girl tells him flat out, "Pull yourself together."

"Gotta Get a Grip," is a grittier dance rock tune, though it too has a sinister edge. The video is set in an opulent nightclub where extravagance and excess reach a boiling point and explode into chaos while Jagger rails against everything from greed to xenophobia. "Everybody's stuffing their pockets, everybody's on tape," he sneers. "The news is all fake/ Let 'em eat chicken and let 'em eat steak/ Let 'em eat shit, let 'em eat cake."

Of the track, Jagger said, "The message I suppose is – despite all those things that are happening, you gotta get on with your own life, be yourself and attempt to create your own destiny."

Jagger said he wrote "Gotta Get A Grip" and "England Lost" in April and chose to release them as standalone tracks rather than waiting to put them on a full album. "It's always refreshing to get creative in a different fashion and I feel a slight throwback to a time when you could be a bit more free and easy by recording on the hoof and putting it out there immediately," he said. "I didn't want to wait until next year when these two tracks might lose any impact and mean nothing."

Jagger also spoke about his current musical tastes, noting he'll often make playlists filled with recommendations from young family members with old favorites. "I listen to R&B and pop and strange mixes of old and new and then like everyone I make my own random playlists," he said. "The last things I added to a list were Kendrick Lamar, Skepta, Mozart, Howlin’ Wolf, Tame Impala, obscure Prince tracks and classic soul stuff from The Valentine Brothers. I really like Kendrick Lamar; he’s also talking about discontent and he really nailed it. I thought his stuff, and what [British rapper] Skepta is doing, are very interesting and pretty much on the button.’" Skepta will appear on a "reimagined" version of "England Lost."

Gazza wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

The video is set in an opulent nightclub where extravagance and excess reach a boiling point and explode into chaos while Jagger rails against everything from greed to xenophobia.

I got none of that...LOL

On first listen, I quite like the music on both of them. 'England Lost' more so. Reminds me of 'Rain Fall Down' a bit.

When I hear that riff on 'Gotta Get A Grip' though, I just wonder what it would sound like coming from Keith and co.

Not so fussed on the quality of the lyrics or even the singing, though.

Always good to hear Mick playing harmonica on anything.  He's fabulous. Carrying on where he left off on 'Blue & Lonesome'

Fair play to him at 74 for doing something contemporary and topical even if its hardly an example of an artist at the top of his game.

The opening lines of 'England Lost' are a wonderful example of Mick's self deprecating humour, referencing his reputation as a 'jinx' when following the England football team.  ;D

Havent heard the remixes yet.

Kind of cool.  English accent on England Lost is interesting.

Who is playing on these songs?

Who is the name of J. Christ is Kendrick Lamar?

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:55am:

'England Lust' Official Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98gj0z0RkXE https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE

The bit at the end - Englishman about to do something crazy, being asked 'where do you think you could go' and told to 'pull yourself together' by a child after saying 'I dont know what came over me' and then walking away whistling 'Land of Hope and Glory' is absolutely an artistic comment on Brexit.

Just listened to the Skepta remix. Certainly adds to it.

Gazza wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

WaiteringOnAFiend wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 11:55am: 'England Lust' Official Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98gj0z0RkXE https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE https://youtu.be/98gj0z0RkXE The bit at the end - Englishman about to do something crazy, being asked 'where do you think you could go' and told to 'pull yourself together' by a child after saying 'I dont know what came over me' and then walking away whistling 'Land of Hope and Glory' is absolutely an artistic comment on Brexit. Just listened to the Skepta remix. Certainly adds to it.

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I think it's cool Jagger did something cool and experimental but I must say .. song wise.. they are fair at best. These are mostly ideas / grooves with loads of production in making songs out of them. They are not so much songs themselves .. At least not in the vane I know the guy can write songs in.


They won't do anything chart's wise or sell well at all ... so I must ask myself .. What's the point here with these two? Seem to be mere throw away side B grooves simply with souped up / loads of production in order to make actual releases out of them. I could be a lot more impressed .. ... 

They feel thrilling, funny and dandy to me.
But while enjoying things viscerally, from the trousers upwards, it still seems possible to jabber out some thoughts.
Each verse of 'Gotta Get A Grip' takes a diff approach - the first: general semi-cliched impressions of the zeitgeist; 2nd verse: the feelings/attitudes of the bankery types (etc.) expressed in 'Rain Fall Do'; 3rd verse: attempts to get a grip in (or after) a love affair; then - after a smile (in the video) from Jemima Kirke (of 'Girls', who put a cute version of 'Foo' To Cry' on their soundtrack) - in verse 4 it goes off for a while with a rap rocket with assorted anxieties about the mo' world. The video appears in part to be about intoxication to deal with life, a la 'Might As Well Get Ju''. There's modern takes on Gimme Shelter' here and many other Jaggerian flavours.

'England Lost' is poss even more interesting, with elements of ''It Must Be Hull' (the Voltaire philosophy of cleaning up the back garden and not locking the door) and ecgoes of 'War Baby' in the video partularly and the film 'Enigma'. The character in the video appears to pass thru the gate of the Foreign Office (where the young Jogger once wanted to work). He's running thru Richmond Park, keen on the English countryside. Elsewhere he's regretting seeing less his ghirlfriends in Euro cities. The video seems to start off as a Ian Dury 'Jack Shit George'-esque tease yet understanding of the common folk.    ....?

And loads more here, surely? 
Lovely.

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sirmoonie said: Kind of cool.  English accent on England Lost is interesting.

Dear sirmoonie, I noticed Mick's English accent coming through more than usual it seems, especially when he speaks more than sings that sarcastically funny line right after singing "It wasn't much of a game. I got soaked" --
"I didn't want to come anyway".  ;)

I always love his sarcasm in lyrics.

New songs take a while to sink in but I generally like Mick's swing to a slightly grittier edge. Also, his political/social commentary is always insightful. And it is a rare song with him playing harp that is weak.

3 out of 4 Remixes I like! LOL I suppose its a matter of Taste!?

https://youtu.be/IcbIX-LYeP8

If I had to pass on one of the remixes it would be the Kevin Parker version.
I love the SEEB version best followed by Matt Clifford version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08VvPHlWYD0


Here is England Lost w/ SKEPTA remix ( I like it!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3CfxgXfDxo

Don't like the jab at Christianity.

Well, so they exist. I was wondering if we'd all been had. Haven't listened to them yet but I understand that they're about the "Brexit Shambles" and like many Americans, I'm more concerned about dealing with our sad carrot Pres before he does even more damage.

Very interesting personnel playing on it:

https://www.discogs.com/Mick-Jagger-Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost/release/10636167

The Wick wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 3:23am:

Very interesting personnel playing on it: https://www.discogs.com/Mick-Jagger-Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost/release/10636167

Three-quarters Stones. Have we ever seen this before?

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I've already forgotten these new tracks. I somehow doubt Charlie and Ronnie are on them, so until someone has a physical copy of the singles, or Mick himself (or Charlie or Ronnie) confirms, it will be rumor.

I dearly love Mr. Charlie Watts. If he indeed is on these tracks, it will represent the worst I've ever heard him perform.

BILL PERKS wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 6:03pm:

BOTH ARE FUCKIN EXCELLENT.

jb is rolling over in his grave.

Edith Grove wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 5:32am:

The Wick wrote on Jul 31st, 2017 at 3:23am: Very interesting personnel playing on it: https://www.discogs.com/Mick-Jagger-Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost/release/10636167 Three-quarters Stones. Have we ever seen this before?

Dont know about three-quarters but we've certainly had four fifths on solo songs before (which is a higher %)

Ronnie's solo albums,. before and after he joined the band, have a smattering of Stones on them

On the 'Gimme Some Neck' album, Mick Charlie and Keith are there at various stages and all three of them (as well as Woody of course)  are on "Buried Alive"

(none of them are in the promo video though , erroneously credited here to The New Barbarians. Ringo isnt on the record, either)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mioS-lUJk


Keith, Ronnie and Charlie are all on this (the b-side of 'Run Rudolph Run')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgO6o7PmwI8

Not only that Gazza, but Charlie Watts actually played on every Ronnie Wood studio album from Gimme Some Neck to Slide on This. Mick was heavily involved with I've Got My Own Album To Do as were Keith and Mick Taylor.

It's just the three originals who have kept to themselves on their solo stuff although Charlie had Bernard Fowler for that jazz album. That is why it's interesting that Mick did it this way. The songs sound better and grittier which is a nice turn that Mick has taken with Blue and Lonesome and these songs.

Feeding our president Carrots!

What has it come too :D

The Wick wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 3:23am:

Very interesting personnel playing on it: https://www.discogs.com/Mick-Jagger-Gotta-Get-A-Grip-England-Lost/release/10636167

For those of you keeping score at home:


Credits

    Composed By, Written-By [Author] – Matt Clifford
    Drums – Charlie Watts
    Electric Guitar – Ronnie Wood
    Engineer, Programmed By – Matt Clifford, Robbie Nelson (2)
    Guitar, Vocals – Mick Jagger
    Keyboards – Matt Clifford
    Mastered By – Stephen Marcussen
    Mixed By – Tom Elmhirst
    Mixed By [Assistant] – Brandon Bost
    Other [Participant] – Pia Squillino
    Producer – Matt Clifford, Mick Jagger


Notice anything weird or inconsistent with the reports received about these songs?

Paranoid Android wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 8:19am:

Other [Participant] – Pia Squillino

So, uh, what are the responsibilities of "Other?"  :nooslajaleisk

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 4^th, 2017 at 9:31am:

Paranoid Android wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 8:19am: Other [Participant] – Pia Squillino So, uh, what are the responsibilities of "Other?"  :nooslajaleisk

Who knows? She's Jagger's "Business Executive"...I think she is in charge of the Jagger PR/Publicity at Marathon Music

I was alluding  more towards the writing credits...

Just wanted to say that TOMORROW ( Fri Aug 11), my Glimmer Twins will play during their weekly show (The Salt & Pepper Show) Gotta Get A Grip (Original and SEEB remix) to discuss each...a compare/contrast discussion...

The play pop, rock, Latin pop and talk about whatever comes to mind...
It will only be part of the hour long show...please tune in via stream...A few of you have already listened to their show and your feedback was tremendous...

My Glimmer Twins turn 12 next month and have been hosting their own show for a few weeks (When sleep-away camp was not getting in the way)

Fri 4pm-5pm EST [GMT-4]

http://wcomfm.org/listen-live/

Special shout out to all of RockOff will be heard!!

They were hoping to have the World Premiere of the singles on July 21...but that release was delayed a week and they were already away at camp by the time it was released the following Friday.

Thanks for listening!!

that's great news Mr. P!

I have had about almost 1 listen of each song and thats it.

It's unfortunate that a more fuillsome extended version of Gotta Get A Gripe isn't available.

The songs bombed. They aren't even a footnote in his career. It's over.

Time for No Filter.