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Message started by Starbuck on Jul 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm

Title: Politics thread - Enter at your own risk! Warning… Bullcrap inside
Post by Starbuck on Jul 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm
Look -- the Republican potty?






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Jul 29th, 2016 at 8:05pm
Sad sad sad.




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Jul 29th, 2016 at 8:49pm
Well, poltics threads always end with fights and some people leaving the board

So please, enter at your own risk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Jul 29th, 2016 at 10:33pm



:areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:12am

This could STILL Happen !!!!! :




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 30th, 2016 at 9:56am

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Nice spelling............Teacher.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Paranoid Android on Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:24am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Well, politics threads always end with fights and some people leaving the board

So please, enter at your own risk



These words he speaks are true...we are all humanary stew...

You now have 100 days to decide who not to vote for...

Let the banning begin....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Jul 30th, 2016 at 10:54am
Telecaster
leonid wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 10:33pm:



:areyoufuckingserious


Haha!  I always figured that's where he would end up.  What a loser from day one.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:39pm
I've no knowledge of telecaster.  I need to be officially briefed.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:40pm
This is probably fake! But, still it made me laugh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQjfvIyr7xI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:27pm

Factory Girl wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've no knowledge of telecaster.  I need to be officially briefed.


The biggest terminal blowhard this board has ever seen.  Think of every pseudo-conservative cliched slogan there is - think Riffhard on Ritalin - and you may get close to what Telecaster posted like.  He had quite a following of low IQ twits in his heyday, but that came crashing down in what is now a case study in fatuous hypocrisy.  Now he's retroactively scorned as a Mormon or a leper or something like that.  I heard he drank like a girl too.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:27pm
Frijolero by Molotov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iJMOBcPQyg
Old song, but it still applies to today!  Wow!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:39pm

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obamas-brother-says-hes-voting-for-trump-in-november/ar-BBuOirg

Thank you, sirmoonie.  I had heard tele was a bar bill paying flight risk...UN-AMERICAN Conduct

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:54pm
Another old video that still applies to today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEczVnFDq24

These people will probably vote for Mr. Trump!  It breaks my heart! Literally!  Don't these people realize that they have more things in common with a poor immigrant than a rich billionaire?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 30th, 2016 at 2:12pm
Tickle for President!(Old video, but still applies to today . . . sort of . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2KKNl3raw0


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Jul 30th, 2016 at 3:21pm

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:


LOL

Gotta admit! It made me smile, and no, no problem with him

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Jul 30th, 2016 at 6:35pm
Because I want all of you to endure the same hell I have.



And just because I'm a cruel bitch too.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:57pm

sirmoonie wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

Factory Girl wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've no knowledge of telecaster.  I need to be officially briefed.


The biggest terminal blowhard this board has ever seen.  Think of every pseudo-conservative cliched slogan there is - think Riffhard on Ritalin - and you may get close to what Telecaster posted like.  He had quite a following of low IQ twits in his heyday, but that came crashing down in what is now a case study in fatuous hypocrisy.  Now he's retroactively scorned as a Mormon or a leper or something like that.  I heard he drank like a girl too.



Moonie, bro...
Tell someone to get Riffy on the horn. We need him back here to add some spice to the forum. Maybe Starbuck can get him back. The Stones are about to release a brand new album according to Ian. Sirstonesalot is rumored to be playing tambourine on at least 18 of the new tracks. Gonna be huge.

:pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Jul 31st, 2016 at 8:46am


" The biggest terminal blowhard this board has ever seen.  Think of every pseudo-conservative cliched slogan there is - think Riffhard on Ritalin - and you may get close to what Telecaster posted like.  He had quite a following of low IQ twits in his heyday, but that came crashing down in what is now a case study in fatuous hypocrisy.  Now he's retroactively scorned as a Mormon or a leper or something like that.  I heard he drank like a girl too. "


*******************************************************************







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Jul 31st, 2016 at 8:51am

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ryan-trump-summit-1463008193



" The Ryan-Trump Summit
Thursday’s summit could be the beginning of a useful, if not beautiful, relationship.  "


By DANIEL HENNINGER

"Paul Ryan and Donald Trump are the two leaders in the Republican Party’s Cold War. Which one is the U.S. and the other the Soviet Union is beside the point. What matters is that Republican Party factions—once again—are on the nuclear brink. On Thursday the two men will hold a summit meeting at a neutral site, with the Republican National Committee headquarters serving as Reykjavik.

Mr. Ryan has said he isn’t ready to endorse Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump replied that if the Speaker can’t support him, so what?

Suffice to say that before now, it wouldn’t have occurred to anyone that a party platform of mutually assured destruction was a strategy for winning the presidency.

Anyone who went through the U.S. education system before it fell apart is familiar with the saying: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” The man who said that was talking about the human compulsion to repeat national nightmares.

Stepping back from a nightmarish brink is precisely what House Republicans did mere months ago, when they elected Mr. Ryan as House Speaker. Some seem to have forgotten what a corrosive, destructive and potentially self-annihilating mess that was for the Republicans. And here they go again.


Last September, under siege from the most conservative members of the Republican House Conference, John Boehner announced his intention to resign as Speaker.

His presumptive successor, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, abruptly ended his candidacy to succeed Mr. Boehner, and House Republicans descended into chaos.

The House’s 40 or so conservatives, the Freedom Caucus, seemed unappeasable. Insults and threats of retribution were rife. The White House and indeed pretty much everyone mocked the Republicans as ungovernable and incapable of governing.

Faction is inevitable in politics, and America’s Founders understood that faction was among the greatest threats to their government. Last fall, the Republican Party was there, at the precipice.

Instead, these factions agreed that Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin should stand for Speaker, in the virtually unanimous belief that he was the only person who could—if you’ll excuse the word—“unify” the party.

The ascension of Paul Ryan then didn’t have that much to do with what Mr. Trump referred to as the Speaker’s “agenda,” but with Mr. Ryan’s credibility as an honest broker. Policy differences aside, Mr. Ryan since that bloodbath has been the party’s one identifiable political anchor.

The unity in the House held even during the presidential primaries and debates, when the party’s 700 presidential candidates were insulting each other into oblivion.

The Ryan-Trump summit will be watched for one thing: to see if the Republicans intend to secure the presidency as a party divided, or as reasonably united.

Mr. Trump has suggested he’s willing to run with the party divided. A disunified party is a dangerous course, from the top of the ticket and across the GOP ballot.

Republicans have been called to public account already for their inability to govern, and the public’s greatest doubt about Mr. Trump is whether he indeed could govern the U.S.

In negotiating the treacherous politics of the Republican Party, Mr. Trump should not underestimate the minefield his old sparring partner Ted Cruz created with the government shutdown in 2013. Nerves were rubbed raw in the Senate and House, and the Ryan speakership last October was the salve.

Sarah Palin’s threat to “primary” Mr. Ryan reopens these wounds and revives the recent images—for voters and donors—of a party that is genetically ungovernable. The moment has arrived to reduce faction, not foment it.

The current narrative holds that the Ryan agenda and the Trump candidacy are irreconcilable, especially on immigration and trade. At bottom, though, I think both men want the same thing.

Donald Trump has the better way of putting it: Make America Great Again. Paul Ryan’s version, the one that runs back to Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp, is: Restore economic growth.

Donald Trump and Paul Ryan should use Thursday’s meeting as the start of a conversation on restoring economic growth. Both men understand that Barack Obama’s seven years of zero to 2% growth is killing the American public.

Reversing that Obama economic legacy is essentially the only thing Paul Ryan thinks about. It is the reality that has made Donald Trump the party’s presumptive nominee.

The differences on trade and immigration matter. But even here both men recognize that horrible growth has made productive thought on either subject virtually impossible. And both know that if growth doesn’t get better, whoever wins in November will be a one-term president.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, the Democratic Party’s two leading figures, have given up on growth and now propose to anesthetize the American people to the Obama reality with the narcotic of “free” handouts.

Neither the entrepreneur businessman nor the Reaganite Speaker is ready to throw in the towel. Thursday’s summit could be the beginning of a useful, if not beautiful, relationship."

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 31st, 2016 at 9:16am

sirmoonie wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

Factory Girl wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've no knowledge of telecaster.  I need to be officially briefed.

Riffhard on Ritalin

That's actually almost funny.  :areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Jul 31st, 2016 at 9:24am
we can't recreate the past.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:25am

Some Guy wrote on Jul 31st, 2016 at 9:24am:
we can't recreate the past.




Why can not people realize that the year 2016 = 1980 .

This election is going to be a landslide

The Democrats will win the following states :

California
Illinois
Washington
Oregon
New Jersey
Vermont  ( Maybe  , ... MAYBE  )



 



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:40am
Nothing is free!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4odmtUBtfeU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:46am
"I've always been amazed that the very people forced to live in the worst parts of town go to the worst schools and who have it the hardest are always the first to step up to defend that very system." from Fahrenheit 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICcbgvPuNOs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Jul 31st, 2016 at 10:51am
Shiny Happy People!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-gxFAU3M0

  Warning:  Graphic footage.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:30pm

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/malia-obama-spotted-at-cashmere-cat%E2%80%99s-lollapalooza-set/ar-BBv20iV

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Jul 31st, 2016 at 2:57pm
Please use the button "YouTube" to post videos, TIA

This one





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Jul 31st, 2016 at 7:47pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jul 31st, 2016 at 2:57pm:
Please use the button "YouTube" to post videos, TIA

This one





You mean this one Voo?  :paristhong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkVijd9g_Hk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Jul 31st, 2016 at 7:55pm

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:


Why does it come out as Lew's every time I type Lew's?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Jul 31st, 2016 at 9:43pm
Is Riffhard dead?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 1st, 2016 at 2:19pm

MrPleasant wrote on Jul 31st, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Is Riffhard dead?

No. Just wounded.  :interestingstuffronnie

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 1st, 2016 at 2:36pm
Riffy got too huge, he's Nationwide.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 1st, 2016 at 6:53pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 1st, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Riffy got too huge, he's Nationwide.

Riffy is voting Libertarian.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 1st, 2016 at 7:55pm
What is meant by the modern term referred to as ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’..



The definition is found in 4 telegrams at the Truman Library and Museum in Independence, Missouri. The following are copies of four telegrams between President Harry Truman and Gen Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual
signing of the WWII Surrender Agreement in September 1945..  The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received at the end of the war - not a word has been added or deleted!
 
(1) Tokyo, Japan
0800-September 1,1945
To: President Harry S Truman 
From: General D A MacArthur
     Tomorrow we meet with those yellow-bellied bastards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions?
 
(2) Washington, D C
1300-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur
From: H S Truman 
     Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct!
 
(3) Tokyo, Japan 
1630-September 1, 1945
To: H S Truman
From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz
     Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean?
 
(4) Washington, D C
2120-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman
     Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end!


Now, with special thanks to the Truman Museum and Harry himself, you and I finally have a full
understanding of what ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’ really means.....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 1st, 2016 at 10:16pm
This bathroom issue is on the mind of the American Voter.  Some are running around saying Jesus was anti-bathroom, but they lie and twist the Gospel to suit their aim.  The Bible doesn't mention goddam bathrooms.  We lack guidance.  Armitage Shanks.

Stay on top of this.  Bathroom.  It's the bellweather litmus test.  We have fought too hard to turn back now.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 11:18am
Commode.  A la commode.  A city can lose a large sporting event over bathroom rights.  Target, Walmart, Sears & Roebuck, Xerox, Starbuck's - they all follow the 2012 Federal Bathroom Act.  Many will no longer patronize such stores, in protest.  Man can change the world with protest, he's got he whole world in his hands.  Just stomp on up to city hall with placards, bull horns and glow sticks, and let these political fat cats know they can't push us around anymore!

What do we want? Change!  When are we requesting it? Now!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 11:43am
President Obama speaks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a72GTQibys

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 12:27pm

Quote:
Moonplop scribed:

Sears & Roebuck, Xerox, Starbuck's - they all follow the 2012 Federal Bathroom Act. !


I piss anywhere, man.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 12:36pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:11pm

Starbuck wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 12:27pm:

Quote:
Moonplop scribed:

Sears & Roebuck, Xerox, Starbuck's - they all follow the 2012 Federal Bathroom Act. !


I piss anywhere, man.



This ain't bringing Feej back.
:waka-jawaka

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:26pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 1st, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Riffy got too huge, he's Nationwide.


He's planning his comeback. Hard and fast. His legend lives on in the hearts and minds of the people. Some say he's still out there. In some dark corner of the internet. Yelling at the drones. And like an Eagles reunion tour, he will rise again.

:aimama

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:38pm

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:


OK, seriously, why does it come out as Lew's every time I type K-e-no-'s without the dashes?

Also, I've already decided who to vote for.




I would totally vote for Crowley over Trump if he were running against him in reality.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:42pm
In that case, I am voting for Pedro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJFWoAVJz4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm

Freya Gin wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:
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[size=12]OK, seriously, why does it come out as Lew's every time I type K-e-no-'s without the dashes?


Starbuck explained it to me years ago but I can't remember the exact reason why you can't say that name here.

I blame Obama.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 2:03pm

leonid wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Freya Gin wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 1:38pm:

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 9:48pm:
[im[/img]


[size=12]OK, seriously, why does it come out as Lew's every time I type K-e-no-'s without the dashes?


Starbuck explained it to me years ago but I can't remember the exact reason why you can't say that name here.

I blame Obama.


You can't say s-o-c-c-e-r here either.

Must be a football thing.  :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 2:21pm
WTF. You can't say Socce#. Voodoo you bastard.  :waka-jawaka

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:07pm
moonie ?

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/detroit-woman-gives-birth-to-her-14th-child-from-14-different-fathers/comment-page-13/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:19pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:07pm:
moonie ?

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/detroit-woman-gives-birth-to-her-14th-child-from-14-different-fathers/comment-page-13/


I count 4 whitey, 5 negroes, 2 Hispanics and 2 Asian/unknowns.  America is a melting basket, overflowing with the fruit of may a loin.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:25pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:07pm:
moonie ?

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/detroit-woman-gives-birth-to-her-14th-child-from-14-different-fathers/comment-page-13/


Damn, she's like a female version of Mick. :D

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:34pm
I bought some new shoes off my drug dealer.  I don't know what he laced them with, but I've been tripping all day.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:02pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 3:34pm:
I bought some new shoes off my drug dealer.  I don't know what he laced them with, but I've been tripping all day.


https://youtu.be/oShTJ90fC34

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:06pm
I was texting and driving earlier today.  I may or may not have been drinking as well, depending who asks.  Anyway, I bumped into the car in front of me.  The driver gets out all pissy and turns out he was one of them little guys - a dwarf.  He's fuming, all spazzing out, and he says "I'm not happy!"  I said "Okay, well which one are you then?"

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:21pm
Voodoo doesn't like K-e-n-o because of bandwidth arguments they had back in about 1973, and as a result, we are not allowed to use his name or the name of g-a-s-l-a-n-d. Whenever you type in K-e-n-o, it comes out "Lew", which is k-e-n-o's real first name. When you type in "g-a-s-l-a-n-d", it comes out "disneyland" in your post.

Along the same lines, if you type in "Gazza", it used to come out "tiny todger".


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:32pm

Starbuck wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:21pm:
Voodoo doesn't like K-e-n-o because of bandwidth arguments they had back in about 1973, and as a result, we are not allowed to use his name or the name of g-a-s-l-a-n-d. Whenever you type in K-e-n-o, it comes out "Lew", which is k-e-n-o's real first name. When you type in "g-a-s-l-a-n-d", it comes out "disneyland" in your post.

Along the same lines, if you type in "Gazza", it used to come out "tiny todger".


Ah, OK. I was curious. Bit of a history lesson for a relative newbie like me. Thanks.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:43pm
What's the difference between a tire and 365 used condoms?  One's a GoodYear, the other is a great year!


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 5:29pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 4:43pm:
What's the difference between a tire and 365 used condoms?  One's a GoodYear, the other is a great year!


Heh, yeah, that would be a great year for me!  8-)

But again, I guess Mick wouldn't agree.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:52pm
Mormons believe in baptism of the dead (also known as vicarious baptism or baptism by proxy) and that the process will get dead people out of hell, and into heaven.  Mormons care about your soul.  If you have dead relatives on a ledger or death roll anywhere in the Americas or Europe, chances are high that the Mormons have already tried to necro-bap your dead relatives up to Mormon heaven.  And in the highly unlikely event that any of this supernatural garbage works, your poor dead relatives are dancing with Mormon Jesus as we speak.

Anyway, the Mormons started dead bapping Jews killed during the German Holocaust (circa 1940-45) and getting those Jews up to Mormon heaven.  Millions of them - Germans murdered millions of Jews, including babies.  Jewish/Israeli leaders spazzed the fuck out when they heard about this creepy ass practice going on.  Can you blame them?  They asked the Mormons to stop, arguing that the Holocaust Jews being bapped into Mormon heaven had suffered enough during the Holocaust, and that eternity in Mormon heaven would just be adding insult to injury.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:04pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:52pm:
Mormons believe in baptism of the dead (also known as vicarious baptism or baptism by proxy) and that the process will get dead people out of hell, and into heaven.  Mormons care about your soul.  If you have dead relatives on a ledger or death roll anywhere in the Americas or Europe, chances are high that the Mormons have already tried to necro-bap your dead relatives up to Mormon heaven.  And in the highly unlikely event that any of this supernatural garbage works, your poor dead relatives are dancing with Mormon Jesus as we speak.

Anyway, the Mormons started dead bapping Jews killed during the German Holocaust (circa 1940-45) and getting those Jews up to Mormon heaven.  Millions of them - Germans murdered millions of Jews, including babies.  Jewish/Israeli leaders spazzed the fuck out when they heard about this creepy ass practice going on.  Can you blame them?  They asked the Mormons to stop, arguing that the Holocaust Jews being bapped into Mormon heaven had suffered enough during the Holocaust, and that eternity in Mormon heaven would just be adding insult to injury.


Moonsmooch, Mormonism was an issue in 2012. This is 2016.

Please don't tell me you're voting for Trump!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 9:18pm

Starbuck wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 8:04pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 2nd, 2016 at 7:52pm:
Mormons believe in baptism of the dead (also known as vicarious baptism or baptism by proxy) and that the process will get dead people out of hell, and into heaven.  Mormons care about your soul.  If you have dead relatives on a ledger or death roll anywhere in the Americas or Europe, chances are high that the Mormons have already tried to necro-bap your dead relatives up to Mormon heaven.  And in the highly unlikely event that any of this supernatural garbage works, your poor dead relatives are dancing with Mormon Jesus as we speak.

Anyway, the Mormons started dead bapping Jews killed during the German Holocaust (circa 1940-45) and getting those Jews up to Mormon heaven.  Millions of them - Germans murdered millions of Jews, including babies.  Jewish/Israeli leaders spazzed the fuck out when they heard about this creepy ass practice going on.  Can you blame them?  They asked the Mormons to stop, arguing that the Holocaust Jews being bapped into Mormon heaven had suffered enough during the Holocaust, and that eternity in Mormon heaven would just be adding insult to injury.


Moonsmooch, Mormonism was an issue in 2012. This is 2016.

Please don't tell me you're voting for Trump!


Mormonism is always an issue, Magoo.  Not as big as terrorism or prohibition, but certainly bigger than gay marriage or universal health care.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 3:45am
Trans-bathrooming is the new black.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Egon on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:06am
Trump is the only righ choise!


You know; if you like to see shit burn to the ground.




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:24am

Egon wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:06am:
Trump is the only righ choise!


You know; if you like to see shit burn to the ground.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 9:28am
Moonie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyN-aHtAVzs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 10:05am
Starbiff?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 12:34pm
If this weren't so sad, it would actually be funny! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81Y9_nph_p0 

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 12:56pm
WTF? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcCN5C7UBx0

Wrong video! This is the one: (I got a little confused there, for a second . . . )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YeYZtXHo8E


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 1:25pm
Trump is never going to make it to the election. He is self imploding daily and wait until the debates. He'll make Palin look like Einstein. Clinton is unworthy too but she knows at least how to run a campaign. Would love to CNN and Fox on election night as the polls close. Final result one vote each there's of course. No one else bothers to vote.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 2:17pm
moonie ?


Ed Klein's book: Unlikeable: The Problem With Hillary hammers the final nails into the coffin of Hillary Rodham Clinton's flagging presidential aspirations???



Highly regarded journalist and political analyst Ed Klein has thoroughly documented HRC's decades-long trail of lies, deception, and conniving.

GOOD MESSAGE HERE....NOT TO MENTION that ED KLEIN who wrote the book on the Clintons - coming out -- said Hillary was called to the office of Valerie Jarret and Obama back in 2009 and they told her she had to stop sending emails thru her personal server --- OBVIOUSLY SHE DIDN'T LISTEN TO THEM. 



So, YES, Obama knew and Jarrett Knew and Huma knew along with how many others!!!!   

"FBI Director James Comey basically delivered a coded message to the American People and the world. He said,  she is guilty beyond any reasonable doubt, certainly should not be president and should be brought to justice, however, our country has been infiltrated and is basically corrupt!

Lynch and Obama made it clear to him...if he pressed for an indictment, he would be taking the Democrat nominee for president out of the election...If....he then failed to get a conviction...he would be facing charges of tampering with and changing the outcome of a federal election to which he would be facing the rest of his life in prison...



Now you know why he presented his case the way he did and why it was so obvious he was reluctant to not press for indictment.

Also....The key is in what Comey said...80 email chains.....that means an exchange between people...Hillary sending AND RECEIVING.....so if he charges Hillary he has to charge the others in the chain...what if the exchange is with Obama...it is not a stretch to think the Sec of State would be in email contact with POTUS....Let's just say...Bill went to Loretta and said shut this down...or else if Hillary is charged she will tell under oath that some of the emails were with the President...so he is also guilty of a felony...THAT is IMPEACHABLE...the Republicans would go for it...the Dem's would yell racism and the country erupts in violence......Lynch tells Comey...you better watch it or you could be to blame for violence tearing this country part...what is he to do???...



So Comey takes 20 minutes spelling out everything bad Hillary did....just like a trial in public.....then stops short to prevent any unrest......"


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 2:27pm
Edith?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzrJwzYBUkU
Grover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcuWba_HgU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 3:51pm

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 1:25pm:
Trump is never going to make it to the election. He is self imploding daily and wait until the debates. He'll make Palin look like Einstein. Clinton is unworthy too but she knows at least how to run a campaign. Would love to CNN and Fox on election night as the polls close. Final result one vote each there's of course. No one else bothers to vote.


postin' beyond the whistle.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 4:18pm
Bucky?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 7:38pm
LOL Leonid, that's our old friend from India, he posted here loooooong time ago... Do you remember his name?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:38pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 7:38pm:
LOL Leonid, that's our old friend from India, he posted here loooooong time ago... Do you remember his name?


Sunnybandyo99

He was quite a character  :areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 4th, 2016 at 6:17am

leonid wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 7:38pm:
LOL Leonid, that's our old friend from India, he posted here loooooong time ago... Do you remember his name?


Sunnybandyo99

He was quite a character  :areyoufuckingserious


THAT'S sunnybandyo?

Wish he'd come back on here.  :smilemick

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 4th, 2016 at 8:34am
Alice Cooper says rock stars should stay out of politics

by Scott Munro


Exclusive: Alice Cooper says artists getting involved in the political world is “the worst idea ever”


The shock rock icon recently launched a spoof manifesto to become President of the United States and British Prime Minister, with 10 pledges including adding Lemmy to Mount Rushmore and renaming Big Ben after the late Motorhead frontman, a ban on selfies and getting Brian Johnson back in AC/DC.

But when asked what he really feels about rock stars getting involved in politics, Cooper tells the new Metal Hammer: In Residence On Spotify: “I absolutely hate it. It’s the worst idea ever.

“First of all, why do people think rock stars know more than they do? That is the biggest fallacy in the world – if anything we’re dumber. We’re not smarter than anybody else. I mean, why do you think we’re rock stars?

“Trust me, we don’t read magazines you don’t read. Nobody calls us up and gives us as inside information on politics. We know less than you do. If I watch TV it’s Family Guy.

“Rock’n’roll was built to go as far away from politics as you could get. When my mum and dad talked about who to vote for, I’d go in the other room and put on the Beatles or Rolling Stones – and I’m still like that.”

Cooper insists he’s a humanitarian and says he has no problem with artists using their platform to highlight global issues if it benefits others.

He adds: “I think what Bono does and what Springsteen does, Sting and all the people that raise money for others – that’s humanitarian, and I’m all for that. But I don’t think that’s political.”


http://teamrock.com/news/2016-08-04/alice-cooper-says-rock-stars-should-stay-out-of-politics

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 4th, 2016 at 10:44am



Sally Mullihan of Coral Springs , Florida decided to take one of the jobs that most Americans are not willing to do.   
Sally applied for a job in a Florida lemon grove and seemed to be far too qualified for the job.
She had a liberal arts degree from the University of Michigan and had worked as a social worker and a school teacher.

The foreman frowned and said, "I have to ask you, have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?"
"Well, as a matter of fact, I have," she said: "I've been divorced three times, owned two Chryslers and I voted twice for Obama."

She starts work in the morning....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:21am
Picking fruit is not as easy, as it looks . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3WFt72RM8

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:38am
Don Trump is a national treasure, like Rambo or Hugh Hefner.  He is what ALL white heterosexual males in America aspire to be. 

You know what all this Trump-hating is?  Then, I'll tell you what it is, in terms you can understand.  It's envy.  Eee En Vee Why spells E-N-V-Y.  The Trump-haters are envious in shades of Biblical green.  They hate him for being the ultimate American Fiscalist.  If he is elected, even the lowliest of the low, the bottom-feeding tunafish of the American society will be stuffed to their fat-faced gills with hardcore American greenback cash!  The Large Green ($$$$$$$)!  "Attention, voters.  Will Mr. John Q. Public please proceed to the nearest cash swagister to collect his ching!"


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 4th, 2016 at 12:06pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:38am:
Don Trump is a national treasure, like Rambo or Hugh Hefner.  He is what ALL white heterosexual males in America aspire to be. 

You know what all this Trump-hating is?  Then, I'll tell you what it is, in terms you can understand.  It's envy.  Eee En Vee Why spells E-N-V-Y.  The Trump-haters are envious in shades of Biblical green.  They hate him for being the ultimate American Fiscalist.  If he is elected, even the lowliest of the low, the bottom-feeding tunafish of the American society will be stuffed to their fat-faced gills with hardcore American greenback cash!  The Large Green ($$$$$$$)!  "Attention, voters.  Will Mr. John Q. Public please proceed to the nearest cash swagister to collect his ching!"




Ha!  Ha!  Ha!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 4th, 2016 at 12:23pm
I am a hardened poster, Gordita.  Wizened.  Calloused.  Mortified.  Granite.  My beliefs are as unshakeable as a Lord's Disciple on Supper night. Your mockery of me, will not spazz me into the RO safe space.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 4th, 2016 at 12:27pm
We love you, Micky, even though, you're rich.  We know you've worked hard for your money. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy3jaqcWBtk

(Plus, you have a bunch of ex-wives and kids that spend it all!)

He keeps his hats at 62 degrees!  Ha!  Ha!  Too funny!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 4th, 2016 at 1:02pm
Because, Love is more important than material things! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq6EOBrbK3Q


How dare that Anjelica Huston break my Micky's heart!  So, so sad!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 4th, 2016 at 5:51pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:38am:
Don Trump is a national treasure, like Rambo or Hugh Hefner.  He is what ALL white heterosexual males in America aspire to be. 



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 4th, 2016 at 6:12pm

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:38am:
Don Trump is a national treasure, like Rambo or Hugh Hefner.  He is what ALL white heterosexual males in America aspire to be. 

You know what all this Trump-hating is?  Then, I'll tell you what it is, in terms you can understand.  It's envy.  Eee En Vee Why spells E-N-V-Y.  The Trump-haters are envious in shades of Biblical green.  They hate him for being the ultimate American Fiscalist.  If he is elected, even the lowliest of the low, the bottom-feeding tunafish of the American society will be stuffed to their fat-faced gills with hardcore American greenback cash!  The Large Green ($$$$$$$)!  "Attention, voters.  Will Mr. John Q. Public please proceed to the nearest cash swagister to collect his ching!"



Sadly enough, that's exactly what his supporters think.

Title: No matter what happens . . .
Post by gorda on Aug 5th, 2016 at 12:48am
No matter what happens . . .

I'm going to miss President Obama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7x4ZS7ZZWc

He knows how to party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPo_n2ESpU

Title: Re: No matter what happens . . .
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 5th, 2016 at 12:53am
Am I the only one who thinks Michelle Obama is hot?

Title: "The newest member is Donald J. Trump"
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 5th, 2016 at 12:23am
The newest member is Donald J. Trump


Moonie? Is that you?

Title: Re: "The newest member is Donald J. Trump"
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 5th, 2016 at 3:22am
No, I don't do aliases.  It's probably this peckerhead named Winslowstud.  He's a real jerk.

Title: Re: "The newest member is Donald J. Trump"
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 5th, 2016 at 5:19am
Proof that The Donald has exceptional taste.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:08am

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 5:19am:
Proof that The Donald has exceptional taste.


Yes, thank you for the welcome! Rocks Off people are some of the best people!

Hey, how about that song, "Satisfaction"? Is that something, or what?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:21am

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 11:38am:
You know what all this Trump-hating is?  Then, I'll tell you what it is, in terms you can understand.  It's envy. 


This is what I have been preaching to crowds all across this great nation. (And I can tell you - I have some of the biggest crowds.)

Security. It is our greatest concern. (At least that is what people are saying.) That is why Donald J. Trump, me, is calling for a total and complete shutdown of all Shidoobees entering the board until we can get this mess sorted out.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:55am
STUMP FOR TRUMP !!



https://youtu.be/_PT3cQ0rTx4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Aug 5th, 2016 at 10:18am

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:55am:
STUMP FOR TRUMP !!



https://youtu.be/_PT3cQ0rTx4


Yes! Have a look at my African Americans there! Tremendous people.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 5th, 2016 at 1:17pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 5th, 2016 at 1:54pm

Donald J. Trump wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:08am:

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 5:19am:
Proof that The Donald has exceptional taste.


Yes, thank you for the welcome! Rocks Off people are some of the best people!

Hey, how about that song, "Satisfaction"? Is that something, or what?


Aren't you afraid that Keith might come after you with a knife again?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Aug 5th, 2016 at 3:22pm
When all is said and done, if asked, it would be the music (JFF, Sway, Tumbling Dice, etc.), sense of community, and desire for expression.  And it may all be said and done.  It may be asked too.  Only god knows.
 
Moof!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:49pm

leonid wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 1:17pm:



Remember when they kicked me out of the official Rolling Stones website?  Ha!  Ha!  I was just too cool for them!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 5th, 2016 at 9:11pm

gorda wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

leonid wrote on Aug 5th, 2016 at 1:17pm:



Remember when they kicked me out of the official Rolling Stones website?  Ha!  Ha!  I was just too cool for them!



The Beatles Tribute band kicked you off the Stones website? Howe did that happen? Last I heard they were playing county fair gigs with the Voodoopugs.

:keithpunky

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:05am

sirmoonie wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 12:23pm:
I am a hardened poster, Gordita.  Wizened.  Calloused.  Mortified.  Granite.  My beliefs are as unshakeable as a Lord's Disciple on Supper night. Your mockery of me, will not spazz me into the RO safe space.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:12am
I would close this thread now if it was up to me.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:11am
This thread has been fun. It's cool to see other ROers treating politics with all the seriousness the subject deserves.

I'm not kidding when I say I've never seen an election like the 2016 campaign. My favorite moment is when Ted Cruz was publicly compared to the Devil and there was a backlash from offended Satanists. I wouldn't be surprised if even that gets topped before it's over.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:32am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:12am:
I would close this thread now if it was up to me.


This thread is piling up numbers that rival the Joey? thread.  :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:37am

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:12am:
I would close this thread now if it was up to me.


This thread is piling up numbers that rival the Joey? thread.  :nooslajaleisk


If Riffy don't show it don't mean shit.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:04am

Freya Gin wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:11am:
This thread has been fun. It's cool to see other ROers treating politics with all the seriousness the subject deserves.

I'm not kidding when I say I've never seen an election like the 2016 campaign. My favorite moment is when Ted Cruz was publicly compared to the Devil and there was a backlash from offended Satanists. I wouldn't be surprised if even that gets topped before it's over.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:29am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:37am:

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 9:32am:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:12am:
I would close this thread now if it was up to me.


This thread is piling up numbers that rival the Joey? thread.  :nooslajaleisk


If Riffy don't show it don't mean shit.

Hey, we got another fake name from Bucky. What more do you want? :waka-jawaka :interestingstuffronnie

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:30am
" It's cool to see other ROers treating politics with all the seriousness the subject deserves.  "

" I wouldn't be surprised if even that gets topped before it's over. "



************************************************************



It Is Coming  ............... :








" How come Bibi is so quiet these days , RonnieCakes ?!  "



Bibi Truman ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 6th, 2016 at 10:58am
https://www.mrconservative.com/2015/08/63110-penthouse-pet-drops-bombshell-about-sex-with-trump/



" Penthouse Pet Drops Bombshell About Sex With Trump "



" It’s been an amazing month for Donald Trump. Two weeks ago, the first GOP debate occurred, and Americans everywhere ruled that Trump won by a landslide. This is particularly amazing, considering the fact that Fox had gone into the debate prepared to take Trump down.

Now, a former Penthouse Pet is speaking out to say that sex with Trump is “amazing.”





According to Daily Mail, Penthouse Pet Sandra Taylor, who went by Sandra Korn at the time, had a brief fling with Trump back in 1991, just after he split from his wife Ivana Trump. After Trump spotted Taylor on the cover of Penthouse, he had his secretary track her down, and the two began to date.

Though the pair split soon after their relationship went public in early 1991, Taylor remembers Trump fondly, especially for his skills in bed.

“Omigosh, he was great,” she said recently. “He was very sweet.”

Taylor remembers getting pizza with Trump for their first date before they walked around the city and went back to her apartment to have sex for the first time.

Sex wasn’t the only thing Taylor remembers about their first date, however. She also remembers Trump giving her a copy of his book, The Art of the Deal, and telling her that she needs to change her name.

“I’ve been Sandra Taylor ever since,” she recalled proudly.

Taylor has also never forgotten the one piece of advice Trump gave her: “If you bet big, you win big. If you bet small, you win small.”

The two would only have a few more dates before their relationship leaked to the press, and they split soon after.
“I was sad when it ended,” the former Penthouse Pet remembers.

Taylor has been married to her husband, ad executive husband David O’Connell, for 20 years now. She currently works as an actress, and lives in California with her husband and their child.

Trump, meanwhile, has gone on to make billions of dollars, and could very well be the next president of the United States! "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:27pm
Maybe, we do need someone like Mr. Trump in the White House.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2vhLbeAUAM

Warning:  Graphic video of a white man getting beat up by a black woman and no one does anything to stop it!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:44pm
I wonder who glencar supports.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:12am
Trump couldn't be me. I am away from my computer this weekend at an out of town gig. No Wifi anywhere. I will be back to post on Monday.

Nice pic leo - that is so 2007. FYI, the Beatle band fell apart years ago. I've been playing in a Tom Petty tribute for the last several years.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:20am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
I wonder who glencar supports.


Glencar is happily retired and living in South Carolina. However, he does still travel extensively, including seeing the boys in Cuba and South America. The dude is a trooper. Almost at SV's level....almost.....

As for the election, I have it on the best of authority that he will be voting for Hillary. He was "Bernie or Bust" for awhile and was considering Jill Stein, but Trump's comments over the last week about the Ukraine, the whole Khan conundrum and especially the $400 million cash video on the news thing deeply disturbed him and re-aggrivated an old ulcer. Now he realizes Trump must be stopped at any cost. In any case, he sends his love to you and PDog and will try to return early next month.

Riffy, on the other hand, continues to preach tolerance for all minorities, especially Muslim immigrants, via Facebook. He would return, but he has a some laundry and a Pride Parade to attend next week.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:31am

Starbuck wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:20am:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
I wonder who glencar supports.


Glencar is happily retired and living in South Carolina. However, he does still travel extensively, including seeing the boys in Cuba and South America. The dude is a trooper. Almost at SV's level....almost.....

As for the election, I have it on the best of authority that he will be voting for Hillary. He was "Bernie or Bust" for awhile and was considering Jill Stein, but Trump's comments over the last week about the Ukraine, the whole Khan conundrum and especially the $400 million cash video on the news thing deeply disturbed him and re-aggrivated an old ulcer. Now he realizes Trump must be stopped at any cost. In any case, he sends his love to you and PDog and will try to return early next month.

Riffy, on the other hand, continues to preach tolerance for all minorities, especially Muslim immigrants, via Facebook. He would return, but he has a some laundry and a Pride Parade to attend next week.


Funny stuff. What about jb and Voodoopug? Lugar and Feej? Joey has been scraping the bottom of the barrel for material ever since lugar left.

Surely Riffy will return?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:37am
Looks like the Lotus Couch has been found!

http://www.sportingnews.com/athletics/news/rio-olympics-2016-kayak-sofa-coach-investigation/1o4sxz0imtqae1jb9bbcqxch1g


:wow

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:50am
The Voodoopugs, with Josh's financial backing, will be embarking on a World Tour this August/Early September. Confirmed dates so far include the following:

Aug 20: Hogs n Honeys, Chicago (Pay to Play event - please tip highly)
Aug 26: Josh's youngest son's BarMitzvah, Boca Raton, Fla
Sept 4: Shidoobee Wildwood 2016, New Jersey

RE the latest press release, the band will not be performing any tunes of "Emotional Rescue".

Below: the Voodoopugs at an "Up with People" rally, 2002


Below: Pug whistles the theme to "Welcome Back Kotter" at the  Skokie area National Night Out, 2005


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:59am

Starbuck wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:50am:
The Voodoopugs, with Josh's financial backing, will be embarking on a World Tour this August/Early September. Confirmed dates so far include the following:

Aug 20: Hogs n Honeys, Chicago (Pay to Play event - please tip highly)
Aug 26: Josh's youngest son's BarMitzvah, Boca Raton, Fla
Sept 4: Shidoobee Wildwood 2016, New Jersey

RE the latest press release, the band will not be performing any tunes of "Emotional Rescue".

Below: the Voodoopugs at an "Up with People" rally, 2002


Moments after that picture was taken an audience member was fatally stabbed by a Hells Angel. It was deemed a mercy killing.

:aimama :loloncemore

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 7th, 2016 at 2:46am
The after party for this one was sad. The police busted Pug's room at the Motel 6 and Joey was found naked, wrapped in a carpet.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:28am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
I wonder who glencar supports.



******************************************


Sigh !!!!!!  :




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:32am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
I wonder who glencar supports.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 7th, 2016 at 9:37am

leonid wrote on Aug 7th, 2016 at 1:37am:
Looks like the Lotus Couch has been found!

http://www.sportingnews.com/athletics/news/rio-olympics-2016-kayak-sofa-coach-investigation/1o4sxz0imtqae1jb9bbcqxch1g


:wow



******************************************


" Rio Olympics 2016: Did a kayak hit a submerged couch? Investigation begins  "




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Aug 8th, 2016 at 12:00am

Some Guy wrote on Aug 6th, 2016 at 8:12am:
I would close this thread now if it was up to me.

Just another example of the liberal media trying to stifle dissent! Sad!

#CrookedSomeGuy

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 8th, 2016 at 1:32am
Mr. Trump, will you please fire Joey?

:warhorse

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Egon on Aug 8th, 2016 at 3:19am

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 6:17am:

leonid wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Aug 3rd, 2016 at 7:38pm:
LOL Leonid, that's our old friend from India, he posted here loooooong time ago... Do you remember his name?


Sunnybandyo99

He was quite a character  :areyoufuckingserious


THAT'S sunnybandyo?

Wish he'd come back on here.  :smilemick



That dude was real....???

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 9th, 2016 at 1:58pm
Allegedly, Khizr Khan was paid $375,000 by the Clinton Foundation after speaking at the Democratic National Convention --- link below

http://www.snopes.com/khizr-khan-375000-clinton-foundation/


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 9th, 2016 at 2:04pm
Some dude tweeted "Trump is the Kanye West of white people." I just sat there for a minute going, "Yeah... yeah... exactly!"

And that concludes Freya Gin's thoughts on politics for today.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 10th, 2016 at 4:31pm
Donald! Whaddya gonna do?!



Man is trying to scale Trump Tower in NYC using suction cups

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/trump_tower_climber.html#incart_river_home



First image from the scene:



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 11th, 2016 at 5:32am
[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/leepullen/ATT00052_zpsdpwbplfj.jpg[/img]

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 11th, 2016 at 8:47am





<   ------------ Some Guy    .... ?! ... !!!!! :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-clinton-default-mistake-1470869369



" The Clinton Default Mistake "

" Her presidency will use the federal enforcement agencies to entrench political correctness.   "

By DANIEL HENNINGER


" The decision to default one’s vote to Hillary Clinton comes in many forms. She is the lesser of two evils. She is the devil we know.

By all accounts, hell is still hell. Before volunteering to spend four years in it, voters about to commit the sin of despair might consider the consequences of a default vote.

The greatest is the economy. Mrs. Clinton will contribute nothing to lift the flatlined aspirations of the eight Obama years.


There is also the matter of Clinton mores, revealed again Monday in a Washington Post story about the way former Sen. Clinton dealt with the economic plight of upstate New Yorkers. Most relevant was the account of Sen. Clinton pushing federal money to the Corning company on behalf of its emissions-reduction technology:

“Corning’s chief executive co-hosted a 2015 fundraiser for her. The company paid her $225,500 in 2014 to speak to Corning executives. Corning also has given more than $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, its records show.”


Also worth reading are details of the $315,000 eBay gave her for a 20-minute speech last year, but we digress. Our subject is what surely will be the decline and final fall of the American higher-education system under a President Clinton.

The onslaught of political correctness that overwhelmed American campuses the past year may not come up in the presidential debates. But for many voters the campus pillaging of free speech symbolizes a country off the rails.

The New York Times recently ran a piece describing how colleges and universities are experiencing a pull back in alumni giving because of the PC madness. Donations at Amherst fell 6.5% in the last fiscal year. A small-college fundraising organization named Staff reports that giving in fiscal 2016 is down 29% from the year before.

Enraged alumni vent frustration throughout the piece, but one in particular asks, “Where did this super-correctness come from?” There is an answer to that question.

A Clinton victory will empower, for a very long time, the forces now putting at risk one of the country’s incomparable strengths, its system of higher education.

What happened can be explained in one word: diversity.

This is an idea that degraded into a set of destructive obsessions. Those obsessions then became official, destructive federal policy.

At its inception a few decades back, “diversity” described American social structures absorbing new immigrants, alongside blacks and women via affirmative-action commitments. Yes, the immigrant influx is part of the presidential debate, but it is not the subject of this column. Only one political mess a week.

When the schools’ presidents began to create offices of diversity affairs, alumni and trustees waved them in as the right thing to do. Bureaucratize an idea, though, and what do you get? More of it than any normal person could want. It is not an overstatement to say that diversity offices are now running American higher education.

Higher-ed’s trade newspaper, the Chronicle of Higher Education, publishes a yearly supplement called “Diversity in Academe.” Its May cover story was “Who Sets a College’s Diversity Agenda?” The most telling piece inside was: “Auditing Diversity: An interest in assessments is rising as officials strive to show they are committed.”

The National Center for Education Statistics reports the U.S. has more than 7,000 postsecondary Title IV institutions serving some 21 million students. All university administrators know their next job depends on showing evidence of achieving diversity metrics. So they push them, relentlessly. In 20 years, diversity went from an idea to an industry.

Enter the Obama presidency and the cultural left on steroids. In 2011 the Obama Department of Education sent a “Dear Colleague” letter to all higher-ed schools, providing “guidance” on creating sexual-abuse surveillance systems. This is the letter that shut down traditional due process for college students.

For the presidents of these institutions, the “guidance” notice had one key passage. It said that “if a recipient does not come into compliance,” the federal government may “withdraw federal funding.”

Readers of this newspaper do not need more dots connected to understand why nominally sensible college presidents are rolling over like trained puppies to the PC mobs. Resist and Washington will terminate their federal cash flow. None will. All comply. That is raw power.

A President Clinton won’t rein in any of this. Accommodating the ascendant anti-intellectual left across America’s campuses is easy, because the institutions’ own leadership—presidents and trustees—don’t care. So why should she?

In fact, using the full “guidance” powers of the federal enforcement agencies inside Justice, Education, Labor and the EPA against the states and private institutions will be a primary and unaccountable weapon of the Clinton presidency.

This administrative federal power is virtually beyond the reach of Congress. The idea that a President Cruz or Kasich will “roll it all back” in 2020 after 12 years of the federal cement drying is just not serious.

The Nov. 8 vote is the last hurdle of accountability for Hillary Clinton. The price of the Clinton default option looks much too high.  "


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Aug 11th, 2016 at 10:47am
Ok I've waited long enough.....someone please tell me these are the only 2 fuckwads going to be on the ballot? Just trying to live the American Scheme

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 11th, 2016 at 11:21am

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 10:47am:
Ok I've waited long enough.....someone please tell me these are the only 2 fuckwads going to be on the ballot? Just trying to live the American Scheme



gimmekeef  ............


It is 1980 all over again   :






" The election will be a Trump Landslide  , Ronnie Cakes !!!!! "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 11th, 2016 at 11:23am

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 10:47am:
Ok I've waited long enough.....someone please tell me these are the only 2 fuckwads going to be on the ballot? Just trying to live the American Scheme







" Eight consecutive years of zero to two percent growth is absolutely killing the American Public  , Ronnie !!!!  "


JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJacky ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 11th, 2016 at 11:43am



"  .................. {   " THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING !!!!!  "   ..........    " THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING !!!!!!  "     }   ................ "   






****************************************************************************



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Aug 11th, 2016 at 12:27pm

Joey wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 11:23am:

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 10:47am:
Ok I've waited long enough.....someone please tell me these are the only 2 fuckwads going to be on the ballot? Just trying to live the American Scheme







" Eight consecutive years of zero to two percent growth is absolutely killing the American Public  , Ronnie !!!!  "


JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJacky ®


Bedtime for Bozos

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 11th, 2016 at 1:19pm

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
Bedtime for Bozos


Rim

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 11th, 2016 at 2:20pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 10th, 2016 at 4:31pm:
Donald! Whaddya gonna do?!



Man is trying to scale Trump Tower in NYC using suction cups

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/trump_tower_climber.html#incart_river_home



First image from the scene:



HE didn't even need suction cups. Nothing sucks quite like Trump.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 11th, 2016 at 2:39pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 5:32am:
[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/leepullen/ATT00052_zpsdpwbplfj.jpg[/img]


Can't we just surrender to Canada or something instead?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Aug 11th, 2016 at 3:51pm
joey?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 12th, 2016 at 8:37am




FUNNY !!!!! :)



Now that is Great Postin'  .............!!!!!   :




Edith Grove wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 5:32am:
[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/leepullen/ATT00052_zpsdpwbplfj.jpg[/img]


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 12th, 2016 at 9:59am
https://youtu.be/BdNHf1g4ivA

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Aug 12th, 2016 at 10:18am
I miss Riffhard.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Aug 12th, 2016 at 1:55pm

MrPleasant wrote on Aug 12th, 2016 at 10:18am:
I miss Riffhard.


Telling us how we've got Trump all wrong......but he was always fun too!..where's Nellie too?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 12th, 2016 at 3:01pm

MrPleasant wrote on Aug 12th, 2016 at 10:18am:
I miss Riffhard.


Aim better!

:aimama :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

I'm only joking. I learned it from Trump. In all seriousness though, Riffy is gonna shit a brick when Hilldawg moves back into the White House. Maybe riffy can move into glencars spare room in Canada.
:waka-jawaka

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 13th, 2016 at 8:53am

leonid wrote on Aug 12th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

MrPleasant wrote on Aug 12th, 2016 at 10:18am:
I miss Riffhard.


Aim better!

:aimama :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

I'm only joking. I learned it from Trump. In all seriousness though, Riffy is gonna shit a brick when Hilldawg moves back into the White House. Maybe riffy can move into glencars spare room in Canada.
:waka-jawaka

MVP posting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8drXa9nBw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 13th, 2016 at 9:38am
Be advised I recommended deletion days ago.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 14th, 2016 at 5:21am
First Philanderer of the United States (FPOTUS); or

Philanderer in Chief

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:14am
I never send chain letters, but this one works.

You will be offered sex by simply passing it on!

It's incredible!

Send 'I LOVE HILLARY' to ten friends.

At least 9 will reply telling you to go f*ck yourself.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm
Trump needs to get on the fucking message, and he needs to do it yesterday. 

Otherwise, he'll lose to the Obama wanna be.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 16th, 2016 at 12:47pm

Factory Girl wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
Trump needs to get on the fucking message, and he needs to do it yesterday. 

Otherwise, he'll lose to the Obama wanna be.





Stay Strong !!!!!     ...... " The Russians are Coming !!!!!!   "  :





!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 16th, 2016 at 1:30pm

gorda wrote on Aug 4th, 2016 at 1:02pm:

How dare that Anjelica Huston break my Micky's heart!  So, so sad!


I'm sure he recovered. It's not like he never broke a woman's heart. On the other hand, his undying love for Morticia Addams might explain his fascination with dark-haired women. Or maybe it started with Angelina?

Amusingly enough (though mostly unrelated), I just saw at IORR an old newspaper clipping that said Bianca "soaked Mick." My immediate reaction was, "Well, yeah, given how he slept around, she probably felt that she was due a pimp's fee." So just think of it this way, Mick: at least you were an expensive whore. :P

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 16th, 2016 at 2:49pm
Hillary 2016. Chelsea 2024 Followed by the Obama girls. Suck it Pubelicans.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 16th, 2016 at 4:12pm



:blankfriggingstare1 :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 18th, 2016 at 8:42am

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-military-forces-staging-near-ukraine/




" Russia appears to be shoring up forces in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he said. The upcoming military exercises will likely be conducted from areas that could facilitate an attack, using Russian forces deployed in Moldova’s Transnistria region and marine units on ships in the Black Sea, Karber said.

“For the next month the terrain is perfect for armor moving cross-country and the skies are clear for air,” Karber said. “The 24th of August is Ukraine’s Independence Day, which is when the Russians attacked in 2014. A successful campaign, with U.S. and NATO doing nothing but verbiage, re-establishes Russia as a major European Power that has to be dealt with and increases Putin’s popularity at home.”

Karber said a full-scale Russian military offensive likely would aim to seize key military-industrial areas such as the tank plant at Kharkiv, the missile factory at Dnepropetrovsk, the shipyard at Mykolyev, and the port of Odessa.

Russian forces also could drive into Ukraine from the northeast to the outskirts of Kiev and place the capital within artillery range in a bid to force a change of government. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 18th, 2016 at 10:08am

Joey wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 8:42am:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-military-forces-staging-near-ukraine/




" Russia appears to be shoring up forces in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, he said. The upcoming military exercises will likely be conducted from areas that could facilitate an attack, using Russian forces deployed in Moldova’s Transnistria region and marine units on ships in the Black Sea, Karber said.

“For the next month the terrain is perfect for armor moving cross-country and the skies are clear for air,” Karber said. “The 24th of August is Ukraine’s Independence Day, which is when the Russians attacked in 2014. A successful campaign, with U.S. and NATO doing nothing but verbiage, re-establishes Russia as a major European Power that has to be dealt with and increases Putin’s popularity at home.”

Karber said a full-scale Russian military offensive likely would aim to seize key military-industrial areas such as the tank plant at Kharkiv, the missile factory at Dnepropetrovsk, the shipyard at Mykolyev, and the port of Odessa.

Russian forces also could drive into Ukraine from the northeast to the outskirts of Kiev and place the capital within artillery range in a bid to force a change of government. "


https://youtu.be/w7V1IYPdFJQ




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 18th, 2016 at 11:29am
http://www.wsj.com/articles/law-and-order-trump-unit-1471473417


by :
DANIEL HENNINGER




" Richard Nixon, law and order’s most famous practitioner, used the reality of domestic unrest to defeat Hubert Humphrey in the annus horribilis, 1968. President George W. Bush persuaded voters in 2004 that John Kerry would provide uncertain leadership in the post-9/11 war on terror.

Donald Trump, always willing to test the limits of any thought, is campaigning for law and order on a global scale. He’s accusing Hillary Clinton of being soft on crime at home and soft on terror everywhere in the world. It’s “Law and Order: Global Victims Unit,” Donald J. Trump producer.

Tuesday in Milwaukee, which last weekend looked a lot like Baltimore’s 2015 street riots, Mr. Trump said: “The Hillary Clinton agenda hurts poor people the most. There is no compassion in allowing drug dealers, gang members and felons to prey on innocent people. It is the first duty of government to keep the innocent safe.”

In Monday’s foreign policy speech he pledged to do a reverse- Obama by keeping Gitmo open and trying accused terrorists in military tribunals. Likening his strategy to “the effort to take down the mafia,” he said “this will be the understood mission of every federal investigator and prosecutor in the country.”

With most of the battleground states looking more like Republican burial grounds, it may be pressing the membrane of believability to say the Trump law-and-order strategy just might work. That said, Mr. Trump’s naming this week of the adept Republican political strategist Kellyanne Conway as his campaign manager means he may yet give his supporters a competitive presidential campaign.


Democrats deserve to have a Trumpian version of “law and order” unloaded on them. I don’t think the Democrats are soft on crime and terrorism. They’re just ambivalent. Ambivalence can get you killed, especially around people with guns and bombs.


Asked after every primary to rank four issues, Democrats nearly always put terrorism fourth. It hardly came up in the Clinton-Sanders debates.

And whether the domestic shooters are San Bernardino’s terrorists, Orlando’s nut or Chicago’s gangs, the Democrats’ offer the same silver bullet: gun control.

The problem with how they’ve teed up the cops has been the nonexistence of any Democratic alternative beyond patrolling the toughest streets with a blue version of Casper the Friendly Ghost.

On national security, an example of progressive foreign policy’s half-in, half-out attitude was former Attorney General Eric Holder’s remark in May that the traitorous Edward Snowden “actually performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in and by the changes that we made.” No, it was not worth anything.

In a Journal article last month, an administration official summarized the Obama anti-terror policy. It reads like aggression with footnotes:

“Not just in Afghanistan, but in Iraq and Syria, it’s very evident what his approach is, which is to make sure we’re doing everything necessary to disrupt and ultimately defeat terrorist networks while significantly reducing the role of the U.S. military in terms of the ground presence and also reducing the resources associated with that presence.”

There is a specific, well-known reason for a Democratic policy of “reducing the resources associated with that presence,” one that 50 former Bush officials should have thought about before unfurling their Hamlet-like statement last week on the election and national security.

The reason is guns versus butter, military spending versus always unsated domestic needs. The liberals’ battle for butter began in the 1960s, when they vilified Lyndon Johnson for spending on Vietnam and the Cold War rather than the Great Society.

Right now, foreign-policy liberals and some conservatives are pushing sotto voce assurances that Hillary will “get it right” on national security. They had better go line-by-line through the economic-policy speech she gave last week in Michigan. After the greatest outlay on infrastructure spending “since World War II,” tuition-free college for the middle class and “debt-free for everyone,” plus uncountable tax credits, anything Mrs. Clinton gets right will be on the cheap. Like her “intelligence surge.”

This isn’t Bill Clinton’s center-left Democratic Party. It’s the left-only party of Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Barack Obama. What they want is butter, lakes of it. Anti-terrorism gets to tread water, alongside the cops.

Defeating Islamic terror is a rare unifying issue for conservatives and indeed for the world. Unlike any conceivable Democratic president, Donald Trump is at least willing to lead this battle, reflecting the truth that it won’t happen without active, unrelenting U.S. leadership.

No doubt this is yet another issue with which voters have to struggle, wanting an alternative to the Obama-Clinton Democrats but burdened with misgivings that are of Mr. Trump’s own creation.

But Donald Trump didn’t create the law-and-order issue. Cities and nations under assault did that. Just now, his answer for both looks better than her answer.  "




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:36pm
Joey Trump?
http://www.sfweekly.com/uncategorized/nsfw-guerrilla-art-group-indecline-installs-naked-trump-statue-castro/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 18th, 2016 at 4:03pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Joey Trump?
http://www.sfweekly.com/uncategorized/nsfw-guerrilla-art-group-indecline-installs-naked-trump-statue-castro/


Interesting. "The emperor has no balls."

Why do we not have Obummer standing over this plaque?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 18th, 2016 at 4:19pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Joey Trump?
http://www.sfweekly.com/uncategorized/nsfw-guerrilla-art-group-indecline-installs-naked-trump-statue-castro/



Yes !!! : Young Joey Trump !!!!!




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Aug 18th, 2016 at 10:14pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Joey Trump?
http://www.sfweekly.com/uncategorized/nsfw-guerrilla-art-group-indecline-installs-naked-trump-statue-castro/


I never wanted a gigantic meteor to slam into the Earth more than after I clicked that link.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Aug 19th, 2016 at 8:36am
No flaming….
it's just a thread, like any other when you don't have certain people who used to post here chiming in….
Myself included.
Fuck you…
just saying it for old times sake.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 19th, 2016 at 8:40am


It Is Coming !!!!!!!  :



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 19th, 2016 at 8:42am
http://www.wsj.com/articles/james-comeys-double-standard-1471560485



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" As for the suspicion that there is one standard for the Clintons and one for everyone else, witness the FBI’s interaction this week with Congress over Hillary Clinton’s agency file. The G-men are back to being G-men—at least now that the Democratic nominee is off their hook.

FBI Director James Comey gets credit for agreeing to Congress’s demand for documents related to the bureau’s investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email server. The FBI shares such files only on the rarest of occasions. Yet given the cloud surrounding this affair, not to mention Mr. Comey’s stated interest in “transparency,” he would have been hard-pressed to deny Congress’s request.

It’s the manner in which lawmakers are getting access to the documents that is more interesting.

Bear in mind what the FBI investigation revealed: We know that Mrs. Clinton for years emailed top secret information willy-nilly over a home-brew server that lacked security. We know that this classified information leached into the private email accounts of those with whom she communicated. We know that she cavalierly used her private email while in hostile countries, making it possible that those countries gained access. We know that Mr. Comey nonetheless chose not to prosecute Mrs. Clinton for her “extremely careless” behavior.

Compare that standard with the one the FBI is now imposing on Congress, where the Clinton files are being guarded at a level that brings to mind the Vatican Secret Archives. Aides from an array of House committees described to me the extraordinary limits that have been placed on who can see the files and under what circumstances.


The FBI has provided just one set of Hillary files to be accessed by both the majority and minority members (and their staffs) of the House Oversight, Appropriations and Judiciary committees. That’s a single set of documents for hundreds upon hundreds of people. The files are being held in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) underneath the Capitol, a secure room reserved for viewing the highest-level secrets. That room is under lock, key and guard, and viewing is by appointment only.

Many of these lawmakers and aides hold some of the highest clearances available to Congress, yet they are nonetheless barred from examining vast portions of the record. The FBI in some cases redacted entire documents, presumably at the request of various intelligence agencies, and to protect national security. Initially, visiting congressmen and staffers were not allowed to take any notes. After intense negotiations, the FBI on Thursday relented, but only on the condition that all notes remain behind in the SCIF.

Some of this is as it should be. These are, after all, national secrets. Yet the process highlights not only the absurdity of Mrs. Clinton’s claim that her server was no big deal, but also the irresponsibility of the FBI’s decision not to prosecute. Duly elected members of Congress are traversing layers of security and guards, clearances in hand, to view a few top-secret documents. Ask Mr. Comey why what is demanded of them was not demanded of Hillary.

But the contradiction gets even more extreme. The FBI has placed additional, and unnecessary, strictures on the Hillary file. It warned lawmakers against publicly sharing any information from the documents—even unclassified information. So the FBI chief won’t prosecute Mrs. Clinton for spreading secrets across the globe, but he bars Congress from talking about unclassified issues that potentially get to the heart of today’s presidential race. One might wonder why.

Nor does the double standard end with Mrs. Clinton. Oversight Committee aides who have seen the documents note that some of the redactions look to have come at the demand of the State Department (rather than the intelligence community). Indeed, the FBI allowed the State Department to review portions of the file before handing it to Congress. This is the same department that essentially served as a co-conspirator in the operation of Mrs. Clinton’s secret server and which has spent more than a year stonewalling investigations and making excuses for its former boss.

One doubts that Mr. Comey has ever previously allowed an accomplice in bad behavior to tidy up evidence. Then again, Mr. Comey was not until recently in the habit of waiting until the last days of an investigation to interview the target. Mr. Comey’s past procedure has been to interrogate immediately, the better to catch perjury later on. Mrs. Clinton got special treatment.

The entire spectacle—from the investigation to this week’s handover of files—demonstrates how much damage Mr. Comey has done to the FBI’s credibility. It’s good to see the bureau now taking national security seriously. Yet the director’s willingness to ignore those standard for Mrs. Clinton has sent the message that Americans can’t expect equal treatment under the law.


That’s why Republicans shouldn’t hold out hope that the FBI will go after Mrs. Clinton for lying under oath. Politics trumps. If your name is Clinton, it outranks justice, Congress, everything. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 19th, 2016 at 8:51am
Flashback: Obama ripped Bush's 'unconscionable ineptitude' during Hurricane Katrina


.......but guess who won't leave the golf course while Louisianians find themselves fighting for their lives yet again:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/flashback-obama-ripped-bushs-unconscionable-ineptitude-during-hurricane-katrina/article/2599641

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 19th, 2016 at 8:57am

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 11th, 2016 at 10:47am:
Ok I've waited long enough.....someone please tell me these are the only 2 fuckwads going to be on the ballot? Just trying to live the American Scheme


We finally have a candidate all of us can believe in.

Alice Cooper has just declared his candidacy.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/alice-cooper-elected-running-for-president/index.html

I can't wait for the debates between Cooper and Vermin Supreme.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 19th, 2016 at 9:13am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 2:49pm:
Hillary 2016. Chelsea 2024 Followed by the Obama girls. Suck it Pubelicans.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Aug 20th, 2016 at 3:42am

leonid wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 4:12pm:



:blankfriggingstare1 :pullanolte



I fully support our fighting men in uniform!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 20th, 2016 at 5:38am

Donald J. Trump wrote on Aug 20th, 2016 at 3:42am:

leonid wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 4:12pm:



:blankfriggingstare1 :pullanolte



I fully support our fighting men in uniform!


Then try this on for size Donald.



:areyoufuckingserious :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey :wow

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Aug 20th, 2016 at 10:13am
:forfucksake

LOL!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 20th, 2016 at 11:50am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 2:49pm:
Hillary 2016. Chelsea 2024 Followed by the Obama girls. Suck it Pubelicans.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 20th, 2016 at 11:51am




This is Funnier than HELL !!!!!!   :)








Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 7:25am
People call each other a douche this or that.
The new one I heard is a douche Spence.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am
http://www.omaha.com/opinion/charles-krauthammer-iran-russia-are-the-new-mideast-powers/article_402c1aad-c905-5df9-8f23-243d1dce4a74.html


" Charles Krauthammer: Iran, Russia are the new Mideast powers   "


" Last week Russian bombers flew out of Iranian air bases to attack rebel positions in Syria. The State Department pretended not to be surprised.


It should be. It should be alarmed. Iran’s intensely nationalistic revolutionary regime had never permitted foreign forces to operate from its soil. Until now.


The reordering of the Middle East is proceeding apace. Where for 40 years the U.S.-Egypt alliance anchored the region, a Russia-Iran condominium is now dictating events. That’s what you get after eight years of U.S. retrenchment and withdrawal. Consider:

» Iran: The nuclear deal was supposed to begin a rapprochement between Washington and Tehran. Instead, it has solidified a strategic-military alliance between Moscow and Tehran. With the lifting of sanctions and the normalizing of Iran’s international relations, Russia rushed in with deals, including the shipment of S-300 ground-to-air missiles. Russian use of Iranian bases marks a new level of cooperation and joint power projection.


» Iraq: These bombing runs cross Iraqi airspace. Before President Barack Obama’s withdrawal from Iraq, that could not have happened. The resulting vacuum has not only created a corridor for Russian bombing, it has gradually allowed a hard-won post-Saddam Iraq to slip into Iran’s orbit. According to a Baghdad-based U.S. military spokesman, there are 100,000 Shiite militia fighters operating inside Iraq, 80 percent of them Iranian-backed.


» Syria: When Russia dramatically intervened last year, establishing air bases and launching a savage bombing campaign, Obama did nothing. Indeed, he smugly predicted that Vladimir Putin had entered a quagmire. Some quagmire. Bashar Assad’s regime is not only saved. It encircled Aleppo and has seized the upper hand in the civil war.


Consider what Putin has achieved. Dealt a very weak hand — a rump Russian state, shorn of empire and saddled with a backward economy and a rusting military — he has restored Russia to great power status. Reduced to irrelevance in the 1990s, it is now a force to be reckoned with.


In Europe, Putin has unilaterally redrawn the map. His annexation of Crimea will not be reversed. The Europeans are eager to throw off the few sanctions they grudgingly imposed on Russia. And the rape of eastern Ukraine continues.


Ten thousand have already died, and now Putin is threatening even more open warfare. Under the absurd pretext of Ukrainian terrorism in Crimea, Putin has threatened retaliation, massed troops in eight locations on the Ukrainian border, ordered Black Sea naval exercises and moved advanced anti-aircraft batteries into Crimea, giving Moscow control over much of Ukrainian airspace.


And why shouldn’t he? He’s pushing on an open door.

And in a gratuitous flaunting of its newly expanded reach, Russia will conduct joint naval exercises with China in the South China Sea, in obvious support of Beijing’s territorial claims and illegal military bases.


Yet the president shows little concern. He is too smart not to understand geopolitics; he simply doesn’t care. In part because his priorities are domestic. In part because he thinks we lack clean hands and thus the moral standing to continue to play international arbiter.


And in part because he’s convinced that in the long run it doesn’t matter. Fluctuations in great power relations are inherently ephemeral. For a man who sees a moral arc in the universe bending inexorably toward justice, calculations of raw realpolitik are 20th-century thinking — primitive, obsolete, the obsession of small minds.


Obama made all this perfectly clear in speeches at the U.N., in Cairo and here at home in his very first year in office. Two terms later, we see the result. Ukraine dismembered. Eastern Europe on edge. Syria a charnel house. Iran subsuming Iraq. Russia and Iran on the march across the entire northern Middle East.


At the heart of this disorder is a simple asymmetry. It is in worldview. The major revisionist powers — China, Russia and Iran — know what they want: power, territory, tribute. And they’re going after it. Barack Obama takes Ecclesiastes’ view that these are vanities, nothing but vanities.


In the kingdom of heaven, no doubt. Here on earth, however — Aleppo to Donetsk, Estonia to the Spratly Islands — it matters greatly   "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am
Riffy tried to warn you assclowns about Obama!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 11:09am



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 12:56pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:
Riffy tried to warn you assclowns about Obama!





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:13pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 10:44am:
Riffy tried to warn you assclowns about Obama!




Some Guy ...............


Regarding the European Continent  --  late August  / September is the PERFECT time of the year for a large - scale invasion  . The weather is dry and the compacted soil is hard enough to initiate armoured personnel carriers and tank mobilizations ........... ( See : Hitler  , September 1st  , 1939 )  .



http://www.inquisitr.com/3436550/world-war-3-soon-russia-amasses-40000-troops-on-ukraine-border-perfect-time-for-invasion/


“For the next month the terrain is perfect for armor moving cross-country and the skies are clear for air.”

************************************************

" Time to make some Popcorn ,  sit back in the recliner and watch it all on Fox News  ,  Ronnie !!!!! "





J.  " Winston "  Churchill ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:22pm
Kinda disappointed my masterpiece didn't make it as a header.



I blame Obama

:blankfriggingstare1

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:33pm

leonid wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Kinda disappointed my masterpiece didn't make it as a header.



I blame Obama

:blankfriggingstare1





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:39pm
That just doesn't cut it anymore Joey. It's 2016. Nobody comes here to see your dog and pony show. You got to step your game up or else you'll end up as a b tier poster on the Eagles forum or as a roadie for Bucky's Yoko Ono tribute band.



:nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 7:41pm
A man of wealth and questionable taste



:pukey

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm

leonid wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 7:41pm:



I've always wondered how Mick felt about getting kneed in the nuts by Keef.

This was during WWIII was it not?
  :nomames


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 8:42pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 8:10pm:


This was during WWIII was it not?
  :nomames


No sir. WWIII is what will happen if Trump wins.

Ain't happening.  :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 7:13am
Is leonid the new Joey? Do we need a leonid thread?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 7:13am:
Is leonid the new Joey? Do we need a leonid thread?


You will rue the day, drone! It's coming hard and fast.
:interestingstuffronnie

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 12:40pm

leonid wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 7:13am:
Is leonid the new Joey? Do we need a leonid thread?


You will rue the day, drone! It's coming hard and fast.
:interestingstuffronnie





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 12:57pm

leonid wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Some Guy wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 7:13am:
Is leonid the new Joey? Do we need a leonid thread?


You will rue the day, drone! It's coming hard and fast.
:interestingstuffronnie




****************



******** {  " SIGH !!!!  "  }  *****************






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm
Can we trade Joey to Shidoobee or something?

:warhorse

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 1:20pm

leonid wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Can we trade Joey to Shidoobee or something?

:warhorse



http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-dictators-club-1471908089


" The New Dictators’ Club "

" An echo of the 1930s in the budding alliance of Russia, Iran, Turkey and China.  "


By BRET STEPHENS



" In the fall of 1940 the governments of Japan, Italy and Germany—bitter enemies in World War I—signed the Tripartite Pact, pledging mutual support to “establish and maintain a new order of things” in Europe and Asia. Within five years, 70 million people would be killed in the effort to build, and then destroy, that new order.

The Pact was the culminating act in a series of nonaggression, friendship and neutrality treaties signed by the dictatorships of the day, sometimes to deceive anxious democracies but more often to divvy up the anticipated spoils of conquest. So it’s worth noting our new era of cooperation between dictatorships—and to think about where it could lead.

The era began in July 2015, when Iran’s Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani paid a visit to Moscow to propose a plan to save Bashar Assad’s regime in Syria from collapse. Iran and Russia are not natural allies, even if they have a common client in Damascus. Iranians have bitter memories of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, and the Kremlin has never been fond of Islamists, even of the Shiite variety.

But what tipped the scales in favor of a joint operation was a shared desire to humiliate the U.S. and kick it out of the Middle East. “America’s long-term scheme for the region is detrimental to all nations and countries, particularly Iran and Russia, and it should be thwarted through vigilance and closer interaction,” Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei told Vladimir Putin during the Russian’s visit to Tehran last November.

Since then, Tehran has agreed to purchase $8 billion in top-shelf Russian weapons and is seeking Moscow’s help to build another 10 nuclear reactors—useful reminders of how the mullahs are spending their sanctions-relief windfall. The two countries have also conducted joint naval exercises in the Caspian Sea. Just last week Russia used Iranian air bases (a little too publicly for Tehran’s taste) to conduct bombing raids on Syria.


All this is happening as the nuclear deal was supposed to be nudging Iran in a more pro-American direction. It’s also happening as Moscow and Ankara are moving toward rapprochement and even a possible alliance, less than a year after the Turks shot down a Russian jet. Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim allowed last week that Mr. Assad will remain in power for the foreseeable future, and Russian media outlets are touting the possibility that Russian jets might use the air base at Incirlik to bomb targets in Syria. That all but presumes U.S. withdrawal.

Would Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan forfeit a U.S. alliance for the sake of a condominium with Russia, his country’s historic enemy? The real marvel is that it hasn’t happened already. Washington first proved useless to Ankara by failing to depose Mr. Assad. It’s again proving useless by failing to destroy Islamic State.

Barack Obama went out of his way to court Mr. Erdogan in his first term, but strongmen always have an instinctive contempt for feckless moralists. There’s a reason Turkish newspapers—all of them organs of the state—are whipping Turks into an anti-American frenzy with allegations that retired American generals were behind July’s failed coup. Mr. Erdogan is rapidly Iranianizing his regime on the Khomeini model. Turning the U.S. into a Great Satan is a necessary part of the process.

Then there’s China. On Monday, a Russian military spokesman announced that his country’s Pacific fleet would conduct joint operations with the Chinese navy in the South China Sea. This follows an apparently coordinated effort by the two navies in June to encroach Japanese territorial waters near the disputed Senkaku islands.

Mr. Putin’s relations with Beijing haven’t always been smooth—China is as adept at stealing Russian military technology as it is at hacking U.S. secrets, and the Russians don’t appreciate being treated as junior partners. But the drills in the South China Sea are another reminder that the Kremlin’s overriding foreign policy goal is to hobble and diminish the U.S. It’s a goal Beijing appears to share.

And why not? President Obama and his advisers continue to insist that the world has never been a better, safer, happier place than under their benign stewardship, meaning they no longer even register the continuous embarrassments of their foreign policy. The administration has become the Black Knight from “ Monty Python and the Holy Grail,” comically indifferent to his own dismemberment. Arms and legs all hacked off? “Tis but a scratch!”


Perhaps it’s in every strongman’s nature to seek and admire his political reflection wherever he finds it, whether it’s in a czar, an ayatollah, a sultan or a general secretary. Then again, what mainly unites the leaders of the new dictators’ club is the shared perception that they stand to lose very little in working against a country they detest and a president they contemn.

That’s a perception that is unlikely to change with the next U.S. administration. Readers searching for historical analogies with the present would be wrong to reach for the Tripartite Pact. But the ingredients from which that foul soup was made have now been laid on the table.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 2:35pm

leonid wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Can we trade Joey to Shidoobee or something?

:warhorse

For a used box of t-shirts. :willya

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:59am
Remake of Creedence Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyTmKB8DY0E

Bang Data "Fortunate Son"

(Look for a mural of David Bowie!)

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:15am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 2:35pm:

leonid wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 1:04pm:
Can we trade Joey to Shidoobee or something?

:warhorse

For a used box of t-shirts. :willya


Joey is the Franchise. You don't trade Jordan.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Aug 24th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:15am:
Joey is the Franchise. You don't trade Jordan.


Which Jordan are we talking about?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 24th, 2016 at 3:56pm
Only Jordan that matters 'round here:



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 3:56pm:
Only Jordan that matters 'round here:





Concur .


******************************************




" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!! "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:55am

Freya Gin wrote on Aug 9th, 2016 at 2:04pm:
Some dude tweeted "Trump is the Kanye West of white people." I just sat there for a minute going, "Yeah... yeah... exactly!"

And that concludes Freya Gin's thoughts on politics for today.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 25th, 2016 at 10:33am
Those who do not learn from history.......


https://youtu.be/-awkYhtey50

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Aug 25th, 2016 at 10:49pm

Some Guy wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:15am:
Joey is the Franchise. You don't trade Jordan.



Rocks Off is the Titanic.

Joey is the iceberg.


:wow :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 26th, 2016 at 5:32am
Gosh, I love Alice Cooper: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/us/alice-cooper-ashleigh-banfield-president-cnn-legal-view-announcement/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 26th, 2016 at 6:32am
leonid ?


  :smilemick

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 26th, 2016 at 9:24am




<  ------------ Edith  .... ?!


http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-u-s-department-of-clinton-1472167746



" The U.S. Department of Clinton  "

" The latest emails show that State and the foundation were one seamless entity.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" This is the week that the steady drip, drip, drip of details about Hillary Clinton’s server turned into a waterfall. This is the week that we finally learned why Mrs. Clinton used a private communications setup, and what it hid. This is the week, in short, that we found out that the infamous server was designed to hide that Mrs. Clinton for three years served as the U.S. Secretary of the Clinton Foundation.

In March this column argued that while Mrs. Clinton’s mishandling of classified information was important, it missed the bigger point. The Democratic nominee obviously didn’t set up her server with the express purpose of exposing national secrets—that was incidental. She set up the server to keep secret the details of the Clintons’ private life—a life built around an elaborate and sweeping money-raising and self-promoting entity known as the Clinton Foundation.

Had Secretary Clinton kept the foundation at arm’s length while in office—as obvious ethical standards would have dictated—there would never have been any need for a private server, or even private email. The vast majority of her electronic communications would have related to her job at the State Department, with maybe that occasional yoga schedule. And those Freedom of Information Act officers would have had little difficulty—when later going through a state.gov email—screening out the clearly “personal” before making her records public. This is how it works for everybody else.

Mrs. Clinton’s problem—as we now know from this week’s release of emails from Huma Abedin’s private Clinton-server account—was that there was no divide between public and private. Mrs. Clinton’s State Department and her family foundation were one seamless entity—employing the same people, comparing schedules, mixing foundation donors with State supplicants. This is why she maintained a secret server, and why she deleted 15,000 emails that should have been turned over to the government.


Most of the focus on this week’s Abedin emails has centered on the disturbing examples of Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band negotiating State favors for foundation donors. But equally instructive in the 725 pages released by Judicial Watch is the frequency and banality of most of the email interaction. Mr. Band asks if Hillary’s doing this conference, or having that meeting, and when she’s going to Brazil. Ms. Abedin responds that she’s working on it, or will get this or that answer. These aren’t the emails of mere casual acquaintances; they don’t even bother with salutations or signoffs. These are the emails of two people engaged in the same purpose—serving the State-Clinton Foundation nexus.


The other undernoted but important revelation is that the media has been looking in the wrong place. The focus is on Mrs. Clinton’s missing emails, and no doubt those 15,000 FBI-recovered texts contain nuggets. Then again, Mrs. Clinton was a busy woman, and most of the details of her daily State/foundation life would have been handled by trusted aides. This is why they, too, had private email. Top marks to Judicial Watch for pursuing Ms. Abedin’s file from the start. A new urgency needs to go into seeing similar emails of former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills.
Mostly, we learned this week that Mrs. Clinton’s foundation issue goes far beyond the “appearance” of a conflict of interest. This is straight-up pay to play. When Mr. Band sends an email demanding a Hillary meeting with the crown prince of Bahrain and notes that he’s a “good friend of ours,” what Mr. Band means is that the crown prince had contributed millions to a Clinton Global Initiative scholarship program, and therefore has bought face time. It doesn’t get more clear-cut, folks.

That’s highlighted by the Associated Press’s extraordinary finding this week that of the 154 outside people Mrs. Clinton met with in the first years of her tenure, more than half were Clinton Foundation donors. Clinton apologists, like Vox’s Matthew Yglesias, are claiming that statistic is overblown, because the 154 doesn’t include thousands of meetings held with foreign diplomats and U.S. officials.

Nice try. As the nation’s top diplomat, Mrs. Clinton was obliged to meet with diplomats and officials—not with others. Only a blessed few outsiders scored meetings with the harried secretary of state and, surprise, most of the blessed were Clinton Foundation donors.

Mrs. Clinton’s only whisper of grace is that it remains (as it always does in potential cases of corruption) hard to connect the dots. There are “quids” (foundation donations) and “quos” (Bahrain arms deals) all over the place, but no precise evidence of “pros.” Count on the Clinton menagerie to dwell in that sliver of a refuge.

But does it even matter? What we discovered this week is that one of the nation’s top officials created a private server that housed proof that she continued a secret, ongoing entwinement with her family foundation—despite ethics agreements—and that she destroyed public records. If that alone doesn’t disqualify her for the presidency, it’s hard to know what would.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 26th, 2016 at 4:06pm
Clinton-Trump debate could collide with Rolling Stones on streets of Las Vegas




The Rolling Stones will perform Oct. 19 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, the same night at the presidential debate at UNLV. (Las Vegas Review-Journal)



By ART MARROQUIN
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL


We already know the first two presidential debates will clash with the NFL’s scheduled games on Sunday and Monday night in getting the attention of television viewers.

During the final debate set for Oct. 19 in Las Vegas, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will collide with yet another iconic institution: The Rolling Stones.

The candidates will be center stage at the Thomas & Mack Center on the UNLV campus, less than three miles from where The Rolling Stones will be rocking T-Mobile Arena before a likely sell-out crowd of 20,000 concert-goers.

With less than two months to go, the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada this week started strategizing for what could potentially turn into a traffic nightmare along Tropicana Avenue, Interstate 15 and surrounding streets.


It’s too soon to determine whether any street closures or detours will be needed, but motorists headed home from work that Wednesday night should consider alternate routes to avoid the area.

On a typical day, roughly 95,000 vehicles drive along Tropicana Avenue near the UNLV campus and McCarran International Airport. That number is expected to jump to 105,000 vehicles, based on figures from heavily attended basketball games and the National Finals Rodeo previously held at the Thomas & Mack Center, Castro said.

“We don’t anticipate it to be any different than handling the large conventions that come to town or popular holiday weekends,” RTC spokeswoman Angela Castro said.

The presidential debate and the Stones will overlap with a few conventions that day, including Sweet Adelines International with 15,000 attendees at the MGM Grand hotel and casino across the street from T-Mobile Arena, said Jeremy Handel, a spokesman for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority.

“With all the special events and major conventions we host all the time, we work through these things often, and we all work together as a destination very well,” Handel said.

The RTC will post traffic warnings on electronic message boards across the city about three days before the Stones’ concert and presidential debate. Potential road restrictions and suggested alternate routes will also be provided to driver-navigation apps.

On the day of the big events, workers in the RTC’s traffic management center will keep a close eye on the road with help from cameras mounted on traffic signals.

The live footage is beamed to large television screens, allowing workers to determine whether an extra-long green light should be allowed for the most log-jammed intersections around T-Mobile Arena, UNLV or any other problem areas.

Some traffic relief may come when nearly half of UNLV’s classrooms shut down early on Oct. 19 in anticipation of the debate.


“Planning is still ongoing, and we expect to have more clarity on details as we get closer to the debate,” UNLV spokesman Tony Allen said. “Las Vegas is known for its ability to successfully host large-scale events, and we are working hard with our partners to deliver an exceptional experience.”



Contact Art Marroquin at amarroquin@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0336. Find @AMarroquin_LV on Twitter.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/traffic-transportation/clinton-trump-debate-could-collide-rolling-stones-streets-las-vegas

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 26th, 2016 at 6:40pm




Seems appropriate:

https://youtu.be/jCLizTg9nWo

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Aug 26th, 2016 at 7:50pm

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 26th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
Clinton-Trump debate could collide with Rolling Stones on streets of Las Vegas


Streets of love?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 27th, 2016 at 5:52am

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Aug 26th, 2016 at 7:50pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Aug 26th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
Clinton-Trump debate could collide with Rolling Stones on streets of Las Vegas


Streets of love?



Or perhaps.......?


Check out Taylor on this one:


https://youtu.be/i6JDfxSM6E0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Aug 27th, 2016 at 8:59pm
No major changes on American Politics since this

https://youtu.be/-79uI_u9Src

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Kilroy on Aug 27th, 2016 at 10:54pm
God I miss Frank!



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 29th, 2016 at 7:29am

http://nypost.com/2016/08/28/anthony-weiner-sexted-busty-brunette-while-his-son-was-in-bed-with-him/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 29th, 2016 at 9:24am

Factory Girl wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 7:29am:
http://nypost.com/2016/08/28/anthony-weiner-sexted-busty-brunette-while-his-son-was-in-bed-with-him/


That's going to be one really fucked-up kid.

He'll probably be President one day.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Aug 29th, 2016 at 11:32am
http://nypost.com/2016/08/17/how-i-find-the-strength-to-stay-married-to-anthony-weiner/


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/nyregion/anthony-weiner-sexting-huma-abedin.html?_r=0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 29th, 2016 at 1:55pm


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rosenblum/donald-trump-is-going-to_b_11637008.html?



" Donald Trump Is Going To Be Elected "




" Donald Trump is going to be elected president.

The American people voted for him a long time ago.

They voted for him when The History Channel went from showing documentaries about the Second World War to “Pawn Stars” and “Swamp People.”

They voted for him when The Discovery Channel went from showing “Lost Treasures of the Yangtze Valley” to “Naked and Afraid.”

They voted for him when The Learning Channel moved from something you could learn from to “My 600-lb Life.”

They voted for him when CBS went from airing “Harvest of Shame” to airing “Big Brother.”

These networks didn’t make these programming changes by accident. They were responding to what the American people actually wanted. And what they wanted was “Naked and Afraid” and “Duck Dynasty.”

The polls may show that Donald Trump is losing to Hillary Clinton, but don’t you believe those polls. When the AC Nielsen Company selects a new Nielsen family, they disregard the new family’s results for the first three months. The reason: when they feel they are being monitored, people lie about what they are watching. In the first three months, knowing they are being watched, they will tune into PBS. But over time they get tired of pretending. Then it is back to the Kardashians.

The same goes for people who are being asked by pollsters for whom they are voting. They will not say Donald Trump. It is too embarrassing. But the truth is, they like Trump. He is just like their favorite shows on TV.

Mindless entertainment.

Trump’s replacement of Paul Manafort with Breitbart’s Steve Bannon shows that Trump understands how Americans actually think. They think TV. They think ratings. They think entertainment.

We are a TV-based culture. We have been for some time now. The average American spends 5 hours a day, every day, watching TV. After sleep, it is our number one activity.

More shockingly, we spend 8.5 hours a day staring at screens — phones, tablets, computers. And more and more of the content on those devices is also video and TV.

If you spend 5-8 hours a day, every day, for years and years doing the same thing it has an impact on you. For the past 40 years, we have devoted 5-8 hours a day staring at a screen — every day. And we haven’t been watching Judy Woodruff. We have been watching reality TV shows. That is what we love. That is what we resonate to. “The Real Housewives of Atlanta.”

The French may love food. The Italians may love opera. What we love is TV. We are TV culture. It defines who we are.

In the 1950s, early television was allowed, with many restrictions, to be an observational guest at political conventions. They were quiet “flies on the wall,” carefully and quietly commentating on what they saw way down below. They did not get involved in the process. Today, they ARE the process. Today, political conventions are nothing but carefully directed TV shows. Likewise “debates.” They exist only to entertain a TV audience. TV and entertainment now dictate everything political. It is a never-ending show. The biggest reality show on air.

And Donald Trump is great TV.

He knows how to entertain.

He understands ratings.

Hillary Clinton is crap TV.

She may be smarter, better prepared, a better politician. It won’t matter. She is terrible entertainment.

That’s just how it is. Depressing, but true.

He is Kim Kardashian. She is Judy Woodruff.

Who gets better ratings?

Who would you rather watch for the next four years?

Honestly...

In 1825, the great French gastronom Brillat de Savarind said, “Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are.” Today, in America, we can safely say, “Tell me what you watch, and I will tell you what you are.”

And what do we watch?

It isn’t “PBS NewsHour.”



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 29th, 2016 at 2:08pm

Joey wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Hillary Clinton is crap TV.



Now that's something you really can believe !!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Aug 31st, 2016 at 6:11am
Get yours while supplies last !!







https://youtu.be/vuegl6ob0Po


www.lyinhillarydoll.com

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 31st, 2016 at 2:57pm
Joey? Edith?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do9n7YDrU_M

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 31st, 2016 at 3:01pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 31st, 2016 at 2:57pm:
Joey? Edith?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do9n7YDrU_M




S.C.L.  ?!  ... !!!! :



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Aug 31st, 2016 at 4:06pm
Trump on Mexican trip: 'Who pays for the wall? We didn't discuss'
By Jeremy Diamond, Stephen Collinson and Mark Preston, CNN
Updated 2049 GMT (0449 HKT) August 31, 2016


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/30/politics/donald-trump-enrique-pea-nieto-mexico/


https://youtu.be/27AIRWSvpRU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Aug 31st, 2016 at 6:33pm

Joey wrote on Aug 31st, 2016 at 3:01pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Aug 31st, 2016 at 2:57pm:
Joey? Edith?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do9n7YDrU_M




S.C.L.  ?!  ... !!!! :



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwfOqfPEgdk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Aug 31st, 2016 at 9:47pm

Cuddly :)







" Once KGB    --   ALWAYS KGB  , Ronnie Cakes !!!!!!!!!!!  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Aug 31st, 2016 at 11:19pm
Donald Trump visits Mexico, and somehow he changed his tune . . . Ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JP8JJYMF-U

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Sep 1st, 2016 at 8:06am

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/anthony-weiner-who-always-had-something-to-say-goes-silent/ar-AAileND?li=BBnb7Kz

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Sep 1st, 2016 at 11:11pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9fl6A3L1yMTRANSLATION:
The King

I know well
That I'm out

But on the day, that I die
I know you have to mourn

(cry and cry, cry and cry)

You may say that you never loved me
But you'll be very sad
At that is how it's going to be

With money or without money
I always do what I want

And my word is the law
I do not have a throne or a queen

no one that understands me
But I'm still the king

A stone in the path
showed me that my destiny
was to roll

rolling and rolling
(Roll and roll, Roll and roll)

Afterwards, an arriero told me, you don't have to arrive first, you just need to know when to arrive.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 8:03am

Kilroy wrote on Aug 27th, 2016 at 10:54pm:
God I miss Frank!


Kilroy?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 4th, 2016 at 9:28am


http://www.naplesnews.com/story/opinion/2016/09/02/jay-ambrose-things-worry/89714860/



" Jay Ambrose: Some things to worry about "



" Time magazine has signed up with the hunky-dory crowd. It says in an article that “politically motivated hyperbole” has led to a sense that “America is in a state of irreversible decline” and then gives us “five facts” showing us things aren’t so bad.

Many, many things aren’t — there are those of us who still believe ours is an incredibly great nation — but some are, such as the way some magazine articles are written these days. The facts presented aren’t facts at all. They are arguable interpretations of selected facts and sometimes make no sense at all, as in saying don’t fret too much about a significant violent crime rise because things were worse 25 years ago.

Our country happens to be faced with a number of potentially ruinous issues — I am going to briefly list five — but saying that is different from saying decline is irreversible. I don’t do that any more than any politician I’ve ever heard. They all claim they can fix things, and maybe not, but for Time to insinuate — along with some balance — that nothing all that grievous is at hand is a mistake. It can lessen the urge to find answers, and we must search. We must search.

And here is a place to start — the dissolution of family.

This country has seen an extraordinary rise of single-parent homes. It’s usually just the mother running things, it’s usually in poor homes and it frequently leads to disaster for the child — crime, dropping out of school, staying poor. Family is society’s central institution and its collapse portends other kinds of collapse.

A second issue: While virtually every other large group of people in both the developed and undeveloped world has been living longer than ever before, one group in this country is not. That’s uneducated middle-aged whites.

Here is what’s killing them: drugs, alcohol and suicide. Many are clearly in a state of depression, and what put them there, many say, are fewer good job opportunities owing in part to an economy that more and more demands skills they do not have. A drug epidemic would seem to be both cause and effect, and a decline in religion, I would argue, just may have left a spiritual void.

Third: The evaporation of trust.

Only 19 percent of Americans trust their government, says the Pew Research Center. That figure is down from close to 80 percent in 1958. We also don’t trust other institutions, professionals, businesses or even each other very much. Societies run on trust, and when you don’t have it, it’s every man for himself.

Fourth is what I see as a weakening of our constitutional democracy owing to a cascade of regulations — in effect laws — written by unelected bureaucrats, a Supreme Court that regularly overreaches constitutional intent, an executive branch that disregards rule of law and an ever lessening regard for limits.

The fifth concern falls in the last-but-not-least category. It is a presidential election featuring one candidate who is an ignorant, vulgar, narcissistic clown and another whose policy ideas could slam us hard and whose character is crumbly. What will follow from whichever candidate wins? How did we get here? How do we fix what got us here?

This list could obviously be extended — to the racial tensions of the moment, to the hooey in some of our universities, to even an economy that leaves Time magazine in a mostly good mood. The point is not to say that all is lost or to be ungrateful about how much remains right in the land. The point is to embrace our ideals and all they have done and to use that glorious spirit to set right what has gone astray, even if it requires a long-term effort.

The thing is, we can do it. That’s not a fact, but it is a strongly held opinion. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 6th, 2016 at 9:31am



*************  {   " YES SIR !!!!! "   }  *************


http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/


" Trump tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the new survey, with Libertarian Gary Johnson standing at 7% among likely voters in this poll and the Green Party's Jill Stein at just 2%.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 6th, 2016 at 11:31am
Riffy needs to lay the smack down on some horses stuck on dumbfuck.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 6th, 2016 at 12:15pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 11:31am:
Riffy needs to lay the smack down on some horses stuck on dumbfuck.


Dems donkeys, not horses

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Sep 6th, 2016 at 1:22pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 11:31am:
Riffy needs to lay the smack down on some horses stuck on dumbfuck.


It just ain't the same without Riffy.

Why has he forsaken us?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 6th, 2016 at 2:09pm

leonid wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 1:22pm:

Some Guy wrote on Sep 6th, 2016 at 11:31am:
Riffy needs to lay the smack down on some horses stuck on dumbfuck.


It just ain't the same without Riffy.

Why has he forsaken us?







" Once KGB  ................ ALWAYS KGB !!!!!!   ... and they always get their man ( Woman )  , Ronnie Cakes !  "



LBJoeykins ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:08am
keeping the Faith...

https://youtu.be/ZpBnRAJYgDw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:39am

Some Guy wrote on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:08am:
keeping the Faith...

https://youtu.be/ZpBnRAJYgDw



Trump got no rhythm.......for dancing


https://youtu.be/VMnoIR7EhuM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 9:27am


" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!  "



One More Week !!!! :

 

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 7th, 2016 at 2:38pm

" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!  "




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 3:26pm



I honestly do not understand some of you individuals .


This election is over . It is 1980 all over again .


Perhaps you were too young to remember how awful the economy was back in the year 1980  [ Double Digit Inflation , Double Digit Unemployment Rates , Double Digit Interest Rates  , really , Double Digit Everything Bad  ]   .  Now we have got Zero Percent of Everything    [ Zero Percent Growth  , Zero Percent Interest Rates  , Zero Percent Inflation  , Zero Percent Everything   ]  . Nothing . Zilch  . Dead - in - the -Water . Even Burma is growing faster than Uncle Sam .

****************************************************


***  {  " SIGH !!!!!  "  }  ***






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 7th, 2016 at 4:06pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:39am:

Some Guy wrote on Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:08am:
keeping the Faith...

https://youtu.be/ZpBnRAJYgDw



Trump got no rhythm.......for dancing


https://youtu.be/VMnoIR7EhuM

Full body dry heave in motion.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Sep 7th, 2016 at 9:28pm
The Harder They Come
by Jimmy Cliff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGE4dnrPPZQ

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 9:41pm


<  ------------ Some Guy   ?!  .... !!!!!!!   :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-way-trump-talks-1473290323


" The Way Trump Talks
Clinton’s ‘reliable’ political language may lose to the ‘intemperance’ of Trumpian rhetoric.   "



By DANIEL HENNINGER





" Until recently, American politics was as flat as a backyard swimming pool. This year, the politicians gathered for their quadrennial family cookout, known as the presidential primaries. Suddenly, everyone saw some big old blond guy in red trunks bouncing on the diving board. Uh-oh. Then the big guy launched himself, butt first, into the middle of the pool. Everyone, and I mean everyone, got soaked.

Uncle Don, the uninvited guest at the 2016 election, has upended almost everything we knew about presidential campaigns. Not least is the way Donald Trump talks.

“I would build a great wall. And nobody builds walls better than me, believe me. And I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall.”

“Get ’em out of here. That’s right. Get ’em out of here.”

Nobody in politics talks like that. It violates what we now call “the political discourse.”


For years, politicians have been oh-so careful with their words. In part, this is the language of constituencies and coalition-building, the constant calibrating of support.

But it is also because in our time the media has made politicians pay a price for saying anything that risks harming this or that collection of political sensibilities. When Hillary Clinton said, “I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation,” the press said she had disrespected Native Americans.

It’s ridiculous, but real. No straighter jacket exists in politics today than language. Marco Rubio, an articulate and often forceful speaker, is careful not to push too far beyond the spin zone.

There is also the fact-checking mania. PolitiFact got a Pulitzer Prize in 2009 for its microscopic fact-checks . . . and the politicians went to ground. Scrupulous exactitude in politics may be a good thing, but it’s also dull.

A century or more ago, “intemperate” wasn’t in the political vocabulary. Compared with Teddy Roosevelt, Donald Trump is Little Bo-Peep. The historian William Leuchtenburg writes that Roosevelt once attacked the Colombians as this “pithecoid community” of “Dagos” and “homicidal corruptionists.”

Possibly we are better off without TR’s red-faced eruptions. The problem today is that fear of offending or losing votes has so blanded out the political class that many of these politicians and the American electorate are no longer speaking the same language.

Into this void flopped a couple of rhetorical throwbacks—Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. Though both lacked eloquence, people everywhere responded to their blunt language, to the point of being oblivious to its content. It was the way they talked that connected with voters. Messrs. Trump and Sanders liberated their audiences from normal politics, because normal politics had become suspect.

Some argued that Mr. Trump merely tapped into latent anger at political correctness. But Bernie embodied PC. Something else in the culture elevated this new political language.

It isn’t exactly truth-telling, because so much of what these two said remained obscure. Liberal critics pointed out that Bernie’s spending was essentially limitless. The Trump wall, like Jack’s beanstalk, kept getting bigger. It didn’t matter. It seemed—or sounded—so real.

Many people today think food isn’t real unless the label tells them it is organic or artisanal. TV commercials announce, “Not actors, real people.” Politics has no immunity from these new interpretations of what’s real. Just the feeling of authenticity for many has become more powerful than understanding the grubby realities of political limits.

Many voters don’t want to hear established politicians talking about the political process, as Mrs. Clinton is doing now, endlessly. What they want is a fighter, a valiant gesture. The Trump and Sanders detractors thought they were hearing a fascist or a socialist wingnut. Their supporters were hearing Sir Galahad, a knight to the rescue.

The political language of a Trump or Sanders also became a kind of shared code of entry. Only individuals able to speak the new language among themselves could “get it.” The discussions of illegal immigration and income inequality go on inside a kind of impenetrable regional dialect, like the way Donald Trump says China—“Chiiii-nuh!”

Hillary Clinton is the antithesis of the current need. Every word she speaks, because it is so carefully planned, rings instantly false. Even the true ones.


Still, the now-evident limitation of this new emotive political language is that none of its speakers or hearers knows what to do next. What comes after the words remains an unchartered frontier.

Bernie Sanders fell short. The current Trump campaign looks like a game of Twister, covering the blank spots. Even the Clinton camp is wrestling with two words—honest and trustworthy.

In the suddenly tightening presidential race, we are seeing, or hearing, the careful and “reliable” political language of Hillary Clinton in competition with the intemperance of Trumpian rhetoric. One sounds real, the other just doesn’t. The new way of talking in American politics may turn out to be enough to win. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 9:51pm



<   -------------Nanky ?!   .... !!!!!!  : 





!!!!!



" Young Joey is now laughing so hard here at the office that he has tears streaming down his face .    " 




Aleppo 'kins ™ © ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 10:12pm



S.C.L.  ?!



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 7th, 2016 at 10:35pm



http://www.wsj.com/articles/president-trump-isnt-farfetched-1473203809




" President Trump Isn’t Farfetched"


" Pundits treat Clinton like a shoo-in, but polls tell a different story. Victory is well within Trump’s reach. "



By DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN

" To listen to conventional wisdom, Hillary Clinton practically cannot lose the presidential election. The various forecasting services, from FiveThirtyEight to CNN to Predictwise, give the Democrat about a 70% chance of winning the White House in November. Few commentators are betting on Donald Trump. Yet the available evidence shows that the race is steadily trending toward Mr. Trump, whose victory remains quite possible.

Consider the polling trends. In a four-way race including Libertarian Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein, Mrs. Clinton’s lead is now only 2.4 points in the Real Clear Politics average. That’s down significantly from a month ago. In early August, following the Democratic Convention, Mrs. Clinton was up by six points in the YouGov/Economist survey, and eight points in the ABC/Washington Post poll.

When third parties are excluded, Mrs. Clinton does a bit better against Mr. Trump: She leads by 3.3 points in the Real Clear Politics average. Yet that figure has been cut by more than half in a month. In addition, the head-to-head matchup loses relevance each day that public dissatisfaction with the two major-party nominees does not subside. Mr. Johnson, the Libertarian, has held steady for months at about 7% support in the polling average, and the Green Party’s Ms. Stein has stuck at about 3%.

The latest surveys look even more ominous for Mrs. Clinton. Virtually all of those taken in the past week show Mr. Trump ahead, tied, or trailing but within the margin of error. The new CNN/ORC poll, out Tuesday, puts Mr. Trump up by two. Rasmussen’s release last Thursday showed 40% for Mr. Trump and 39% for Mrs. Clinton. The Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll out Friday had the same figures. The L.A. Times/USC tracking survey shows a statistical tie. The latest Investors Business Daily/TIPP survey has Mrs. Clinton up by one, but the margin of error is 3.4 points.

What accounts for this tightening? On the most straightforward level, it seems that Mrs. Clinton is coming down from the bounce she received after the successful Democratic convention. But something else has changed as well. In the latest ABC/Washington Post poll, published at the end of August, her image hit a career low: 56% of Americans viewed her unfavorably and only 41% favorably. This is a significant slide from even early August, when the same poll had Mrs. Clinton at 52% unfavorable and 46% favorable.


The continuing revelations about her private email server and the business dealings of the Clinton Foundation obviously are taking a toll. The FBI’s notes from its interview with Mrs. Clinton, released Friday, reinforce director James Comey’s judgment that she was “extremely careless” with classified information. At least 15,000 more emails could be released before November. As for the Clinton Foundation, at this point it is clear that both Hillary and Bill should resign immediately from its board and any role in daily operations.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump has finally begun to focus. Instead of indulging in public spats with other Republicans or the media, he has given speeches on immigration, the economy and terrorism. His image has begun to improve. Barely a month ago Mr. Trump was 30 points underwater in a Bloomberg poll, with 33% of respondents viewing him favorably and 63% unfavorably. Last week’s release from Reuters/Ipsos showed 44% favorable and 56% unfavorable.

Still, Mr. Trump has failed to capitalize on two central themes: change and corruption. Fifty-six percent of Americans want to “take the country in a different direction,” according to a June poll by YouGov/Huffington Post. And a majority of Americans—56%—think that Mrs. Clinton broke the law by using a private email system, an Associated Press survey found in July. For Mr. Trump, these figures represent a great opportunity.

At the same time, Mrs. Clinton has been struggling to define her own message. Hiding from media scrutiny, she has focused almost exclusively on raising money, hauling in a record $143 million last month for her campaign and the Democratic Party. Her ads targeting Mr. Trump may have done him some damage on the margins. But there is no evidence that they have strengthened her position.

Mrs. Clinton has not offered any defining vision for why she should be elected. She needs an overarching message, beyond simply saying that she is a “change maker,” as her husband called her at the Democratic convention. If articulating a substantive vision proves too challenging, it wouldn’t be the worst fallback strategy to associate herself with the record of President Obama, whose poll numbers are up, or even her husband. But she’s got to do something more than she is currently doing, given her lack of any clear direction for the country and the public sense that she is not trustworthy and arguably corrupt.

So can Donald Trump win? Although he is at a clear disadvantage in the electoral college, evidence suggests that he can. Polls in the past week in Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio show the race tightening. Florida is within the margin of error. North Carolina and even potentially Arizona, states that once seemed out of reach, remain in play.

In the Midwest, Mr. Trump is surging. The Washington Post/Survey Monkey poll published Tuesday shows him leading by four points in Iowa and three points in Ohio. His path to victory runs through these states, especially with Virginia and Colorado now seemingly safe for Mrs. Clinton. The Midwest is where Mr. Trump should devote the bulk of his time and money, focusing on the need for fundamental change, economic revitalization and empowerment for the disadvantaged—making his pitch broadly but not exclusively to white working-class voters.

Neither candidate has so far decisively answered the question of who can best lead America into a challenging future, while helping millions of hardworking people improve their lives. If Mr. Trump makes the better sales pitch over the next 60 days, he may very well find himself sitting in the big chair in the Oval Office. "


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Sep 7th, 2016 at 11:28pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 8th, 2016 at 9:58am
If you really want this thread to pop, lift the ban on glencar.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 8th, 2016 at 4:07pm

Joey wrote on Sep 7th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
S.C.L.  ?!



Joey? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyeVb-AZAk4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:02am
Perhaps I could just cut n paste some of Riffy's FB posts?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 9th, 2016 at 11:12am

Starbuck wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:02am:
Perhaps I could just cut n paste some of Riffy's FB posts?

I miss that son of a bitch!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 9th, 2016 at 2:34pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 11:12am:

Starbuck wrote on Sep 9th, 2016 at 10:02am:
Perhaps I could just cut n paste some of Riffy's FB posts?

I miss that son of a bitch!

With every bullet so far.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Sep 9th, 2016 at 6:15pm
joey?
moonie?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Sep 9th, 2016 at 6:24pm
edith?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 10th, 2016 at 9:21am




<   --------   Some Guy  ..... ?!   ....   !!!! :


http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trump-blitz-begins-1473375660




" The Trump Blitz Begins   "

" The GOP nominee is finally—relentlessly—arguing that Clinton is unfit for office.  "


By
Kimberley A. Strassel



" Think of it as the moment when  Donald Trump truly learned to throw a (campaign) punch. It came about three weeks ago, amid the latest swirl of stories on the  Clintons’ ethics.  Hillary Clinton had recently blamed her private email server on  Colin Powell. Judicial Watch had released more emails that showed the Clinton Foundation begging the State Department for special favors on behalf of its donors.  Bill Clinton had floated laughable plans to reform the foundation.

The Trump campaign pounced. It began blasting out every new revelation about—or editorial-board comment on—Mrs. Clinton’s shady dealings. It unleashed surrogates, in particular the former prosecutors  Rudy Giuliani and  Chris Christie, to make the legal case against her.  Mr. Trump devoted a significant portion of a speech in Texas to detailing the lies she had told about her server, and the pay-to-play allegations at the foundation. Within a few days the campaign had cut a web ad hitting her for “corruption” and calling the foundation a “slush fund.”

Mrs. Clinton’s slip in the polls is a direct result of the latest flood of scandal. Less noticed is the skillful way that Team Trump is making those hits land. The Republican nominee’s campaign has been doing more right lately, though nothing more so than this. When it comes to the dissection of Mrs. Clinton’s misdeeds, the Trump campaign is firing on 16 cylinders.

If attacking your corrupt opponent on corruption seems obvious, it wasn’t to Mr. Trump for a long time. The GOP nominee is a scrapper, and part of his draw was the expectation that he would speak bluntly about the Clintons. He did, though as voters would soon realize, only in fits and incomplete starts. He delivered a speech on her ethics in June—then never sustained the argument. He ignored prime opportunities (the State Department inspector general report; FBI Director James Comey’s press conference), flitting to other subjects instead. He seemed to think the occasional #CrookedHillary tweet was enough.

This was frustrating if only because Mrs. Clinton’s venality is the concrete with which Mr. Trump must pave his road to the White House. This is a woman whom close to two-thirds of voters view as untrustworthy. She has based her entire campaign around the argument that she is more credible and competent to lead the nation—a claim utterly undermined by revelations about her foundation’s business model, her cavalier handling of classified information, and her inability to “recall” most of her tenure as secretary of state.

Mr. Trump’s new approach is to unrelentingly hit all sides of that claim—making the case that Mrs. Clinton is “unfit” to hold the top job. Case in point: After Wednesday’s commander-in-chief forum on NBC, the Trump campaign detailed precisely why Mrs. Clinton should not be trusted with national security. Mr. Trump hit her during the forum, while a follow-up press release highlighted her bad judgment in using an “illicit” email server and the risk of a “hack of classified info”; noted how her drone emails would “undermine” security; and flagged her stumbling attempt to tell a vet in the audience why she should be held to a different standard on classified information than military officers. Good, smart stuff.

The unrelenting pressure has put Mrs. Clinton in the spotlight and on the defense. That by consequence has somewhat sheltered the Republican nominee from attacks. Listening to Mrs. Clinton—the subject of an FBI investigation, the facilitator of the Crown Prince of Bahrain—on Wednesday drop a line about Mr. Trump’s “scams” and “frauds” was downright amusing. Sort of like watching Al Capone accuse  Eliot Ness of having the occasional light beer.

Also effective has been the campaign’s drumbeat about Mrs. Clinton’s refusal to hold press conferences. (“Hiding Hillary: Day 278!”) Her longtime approach to scandals has been to ignore them and wait for the press to get weary. But the stories keep pouring out this time, and her refusal to address them has made her look shady, arrogant, slippery. She finally succumbed to pressure and took a few cursory questions from reporters Thursday, though none on the email or foundation.

Mr. Trump’s new all-in-on-Hillary approach came about the same time as his staff shakeup. It is likely due in part to the presence of Breitbart’s Stephen Bannon and (more recently) Citizens United’s David Bossie. The press has focused on Breitbart’s fractious role in the conservative world, but Mr. Bannon and Mr. Bossie have both devoted careers to tracking and exposing Mrs. Clinton’s ethical troubles.

Turning voters away from Mrs. Clinton is the groundwork. Mr. Trump still needs to give voters a reason to turn toward him. His sober approach of recent weeks is a start. A challenge will be to translate what has so far been campaign-engineered press releases and speeches into an on-the-fly prosecution of Mrs. Clinton during the presidential debates. Mr. Trump is right that Hillary is unfit to be president. Now, to keep proving it.  " 


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 10th, 2016 at 10:15am
" The Trump Blitz Begins   "


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Sep 10th, 2016 at 10:15pm
https://youtu.be/gUjrnlMAtQ4

https://youtu.be/iymtpePP8I8

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 12th, 2016 at 8:35am
" The Trump Blitz Begins   "

https://youtu.be/GLa9YxV1Xps

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 12th, 2016 at 5:03pm


Some Guy ?!




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 12th, 2016 at 9:47pm

" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "


http://heatst.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/week-end-bernie.jpg?w=619&quality=80&strip=info

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Sep 13th, 2016 at 8:05pm
Ouch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rWtz-R_cg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 15th, 2016 at 8:52am




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http://www.wsj.com/articles/les-deplorables-1473895470



" Les Déplorables"

"  Hillary Clinton names the five phobias of Donald Trump’s political supporters.   "



By DANIEL HENNINGER



" Hillary Clinton’s comment that half of Donald Trump’s supporters are “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic”—a heck of a lot of phobia for anyone to lug around all day—puts back in play what will be seen as one of the 2016 campaign’s defining forces: the revolt of the politically incorrect.

They may not live at the level of Victor Hugo’s “Les Misérables,” but it was only a matter of time before les déplorables—our own writhing mass of unheard Americans—rebelled against the intellectual elites’ ancien régime of political correctness.

It remains to be seen what effect Hillary’s five phobias will have on the race, which tightened even before these remarks and Pneumonia-gate. The two events produced one of Mrs. Clinton’s worst weeks in opposite ways.

As with the irrepressible email server, Mrs. Clinton’s handling of her infirmity—“I feel great,” the pneumonia-infected candidate said while hugging a little girl—deepened the hole of distrust she lives in. At the same time, her dismissal, at Barbra Streisand’s LGBT fundraiser, of uncounted millions of Americans as deplorables had the ring of genuine belief.

Perhaps sensing that public knowledge of what she really thinks could be a political liability, Mrs. Clinton went on to describe “people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them . . . and they’re just desperate for change.”

She is of course describing the people in Charles Murray’s recent and compelling book on cultural disintegration among the working class, “Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010.” This is indeed the bedrock of the broader Trump base.

Mrs. Clinton is right that they feel the system has let them down. There is a legitimate argument over exactly when the rising digital economy started transferring income away from blue-collar workers and toward the “creative class” of Google and Facebook employees, no few of whom are smug progressives who think the landmass seen from business class between San Francisco and New York is pocked with deplorable, phobic Americans. Naturally, they’ll vote for the status quo, which is Hillary.

But in the eight years available to Barack Obama to do something about what rankles the lower-middle class—white, black or brown—the non-employed and underemployed grew. A lot of them will vote for Donald Trump because they want a radical mid-course correction. Which Mrs. Clinton isn’t and never will be.


This is not the Democratic Party of Bill Clinton. The progressive Democrats, a wholly public-sector party, have disconnected from the realities of the private economy, which exists as a mysterious revenue-producing abstraction. Hillary’s comments suggest they now see much of the population has a cultural and social abstraction.

To repeat: “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.”

Those are all potent words. Or once were. The racism of the Jim Crow era was ugly, physically cruel and murderous. Today, progressives output these words as reflexively as a burp. What’s more, the left enjoys calling people Islamophobic or homophobic. It’s bullying without personal risk.

Donald Trump’s appeal, in part, is that he cracks back at progressive cultural condescension in utterly crude terms. Nativists exist, and the sky is still blue. But the overwhelming majority of these people aren’t phobic about a modernizing America. They’re fed up with the relentless, moral superciliousness of Hillary, the Obamas, progressive pundits and 19-year-old campus activists.

Evangelicals at last week’s Values Voter Summit said they’d look past Mr. Trump’s personal résumé. This is the reason. It’s not about him.

The moral clarity that drove the original civil-rights movement or the women’s movement has degenerated into a confused moral narcissism. One wonders if even some of the people in Mrs. Clinton’s Streisandian audience didn’t feel discomfort at the ease with which the presidential candidate slapped isms and phobias on so many people.

Presidential politics has become hyper-focused on individual personalities because the media rubs them in our face nonstop. It is a mistake, though, to blame Hillary alone for that derisive remark. It’s not just her. Hillary Clinton is the logical result of the Democratic Party’s new, progressive algorithm—a set of strict social rules that drives politics and the culture to one point of view. A Clinton victory would enable and entrench the forces her comment represents.

Her supporters say it’s Donald Trump’s rhetoric that is “divisive.” Just so. But it’s rich to hear them claim that their words and politics are “inclusive.” So is the town dump. They have chopped American society into so many offendable identities that only a Yale freshman can name them all.

If the Democrats lose behind Hillary Clinton, it will be in part because America’s les déplorables decided enough of this is enough.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 15th, 2016 at 8:57am
I be a Hillaryphobe  :forfucksake

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Sep 15th, 2016 at 9:09am
I be a Monico Lewinsky

:forfucksake :waka-jawaka :pukey :aimama :wtf3

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 16th, 2016 at 5:22am
https://youtu.be/kSJ9QHKf9Ss

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 16th, 2016 at 8:10am


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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 16th, 2016 at 9:24am


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http://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-deplorable-emails-1473981664



  " Democrats’ Deplorable Emails   "


" How much to buy an ambassadorship? The answer is in the latest hacked messages.   "


By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" If the 2016 election is remembered for anything beyond its flawed candidates, it will be recalled as the year of the Democratic email dump. Or rather, the year that the voting public got an unvarnished view of the disturbing—nay, deplorable—inner workings of the highest echelons of the Democratic Party.

What makes the continuing flood of emails instructive is that nobody was ever meant to see these documents. Hillary Clinton set up a private server to shield her communications as secretary of state from the public. She gave top aide Huma Abedin an account on that server. She never envisioned that an FBI investigation and lawsuits would drag her conversations into the light.

The Democratic National Committee and Colin Powell (an honorary Democrat) likewise believed their correspondence secure. But both were successfully targeted by hackers, who released the latest round of enlightening emails this week.

These emails provide what the public always complains it doesn’t have: unfiltered evidence of what top politicians do and think. And what a picture they collectively paint of the party of the left. For years, Democrats have steadfastly portrayed Republicans as elitist fat cats who buy elections, as backroom bosses who rig the laws in their favor, as brass-knuckle lobbyists and operators who get special access. It turns out that this is the precise description of the Democratic Party. They know of what they speak.

The latest hack of the DNC—courtesy of WikiLeaks via Guccifer 2.0—shows that Mrs. Clinton wasn’t alone in steering favors to big donors. Among the documents leaked is one that lists the party’s largest fundraisers/donors as of 2008. Of the top 57 cash cows 18 ended up with ambassadorships. The largest fundraiser listed, Matthew Barzun, who drummed up $3.5 million for Mr. Obama’s first campaign, was named ambassador to Sweden and then ambassador to the United Kingdom. The second-largest, Julius Genachowski, was named the head of the Federal Communications Commission. The third largest, Frank Sanchez, was named undersecretary of commerce.

Keep in mind what an earlier leak revealed: a May 18, 2016, email from an outside lawyer to DNC staffers in which the attorney suggests a call to “go over our process for handling donations from donors who have given us pay to play letters.” Add this to what the Clinton and Abedin emails have shown to be a massive pay-to-play operation at the Clinton Foundation, in which megadonors like the crown prince of Bahrain got special access to the secretary of state.

And there are also all those Clinton speeches, for which they were paid millions. News comes this week that despite the Clintons’ promises to distance themselves from their foundation, they will first be holding what sounds like one last fire sale on future presidential access: a belated birthday bash for Bill Clinton, with a glitzy party at the Rainbow Room in Manhattan. A donation of $250,000 gets you listed as “chair” of the party, while “co-chair” costs $100,000. Foundation officials are refusing to say who has donated, or how much.


So which political party is all about money, influence and special access? The Republican Party held a true, democratic primary. Seventeen candidates battled it out, and the voters choose a nominee that much of the party establishment disliked.

Leaked emails show that the Democratic Party hierarchy retreated to a backroom to anoint Hillary Clinton and then exercised its considerable power to subvert the primary process and kill off the Bernie Sanders campaign. In one email, Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall suggested sliming Mr. Sanders on religion: “Can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.” How’s that for deplorable?

Perhaps most revealing are Mr. Powell’s emails, which show, undisguised, how Clinton supporters think. Specifically, the emails demonstrate that this crowd recognizes the Clintons as a menace—and yet they are willing to excuse away anything. “I would rather not have to vote for her,” Mr. Powell wrote to a friend. “A 70-year person with a long track record, unbridled ambition, greedy, not transformational, with a husband still [sleeping with] bimbos at home.”


Unpack that. Mr. Powell is saying that Hillary is old; that she is a scandal factory; that she will cut any corner to win and do anything for a buck; that she won’t help the country; and that her husband remains a liability. And yet other emails suggest Mr. Powell nonetheless was (is?) debating giving her a boost with a well-timed endorsement in the fall.

This is the modern Democratic Party. The more it has struggled to sell its ideas to the public, the more it has turned to rigging the system to its political benefit. Don’t take Republicans’ word for it. Just read the emails. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm
Joey, you know it's Bill who is gonna be running the show when Hillary wins!
Yes we should!

How 'bout them baskets of deplorables?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Sep 16th, 2016 at 9:57pm
Check this site out during Trump rallies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okV84GhfAgc

They put up hiliary-ous pop-ups before and during speeches. (Site only up during rallies and some indefinite time afterwards repeating playback.)

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 17th, 2016 at 7:06am
Joey? Edith?
http://www.people.com/article/trump-supporters-racist-sexist-rallies-nyt-video

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 17th, 2016 at 8:11am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 7:06am:
Joey? Edith?
http://www.people.com/article/trump-supporters-racist-sexist-rallies-nyt-video


It's a damn shame that jackasses exist on both ends of the spectrum.
Not really interested in a pissing match here, but I think it's necessary to remind you of the outright bloody violence that was committed by anti-Trump extremists right there in your hometown, SCL.


As reported by a left-leaning news source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/


Let the fools talk, they have that right, but beware of the radicals on both sides.
Fortunately, those radicals are in the minority.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 17th, 2016 at 9:19am

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 8:11am:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 7:06am:
Joey? Edith?
http://www.people.com/article/trump-supporters-racist-sexist-rallies-nyt-video


It's a damn shame that jackasses exist on both ends of the spectrum.
Not really interested in a pissing match here, but I think it's necessary to remind you of the outright bloody violence that was committed by anti-Trump extremists right there in your hometown, SCL.


As reported by a left-leaning news source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/


Let the fools talk, they have that right, but beware of the radicals on both sides.
Fortunately, those radicals are in the minority.


Edith 2016!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Sep 17th, 2016 at 9:54am
Edith......

Your my man!!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 17th, 2016 at 11:01am




https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Rising-Sun-America-Vanquished/dp/1627790624


By : Rick Shaq Goldsteinon  September 14, 2016





" I am an Honorably Discharged Viet Nam Era Veteran… and I feel “honored” just to be able to read this book. With the discord in some circles today about the lack of honoring our flag and our National Anthem… this book couldn’t have been released at a better time.

This book is riveting… it’s bone chilling… it’s tears of pride… and tears of sadness… inducing… it produces nauseating disgust of what human beings are capable of doing… and also makes you literally want to get down on your knees… and thank the wondrous Lord… for the miracle of the men he has put on this earth… who truly put love of country first.

And it so shamefully puts a spotlight on these people who try to discredit… demean… degrade… and disgrace our flag and what it stands for. As a child I was taught by my Dad as we raised the flag in front of our house… to never let the flag hit the ground… and if you did… you kissed it when you picked it up. I grew up to see first-hand in the military… the honor of the person who carried our flag in formations in front of us. And the hypocrisy and loss of a country’s literal spine… by allowing people to burn it…

As a Grandfather now… I tell my son of my fear… of being jailed and having my life ruined… based on my physical response if someone in my vision tries to desecrate the flag. That’s what this world has come to… and reading this detailed book of World WarII’s darkest hours… and the heroism of United States Veterans… will make that great American Flag… literally come alive with voices… and faces… and unbelievable sacrifice… so powerful… you may literally throw your arm out of its socket when you are lucky enough to snap off a salute.

Bill O’Reilly… some people may not know… was a history teacher… before he became a world famous journalist. He and his co-author Martin Dugard… have created a book that literally should be ordained into a standard textbook in our school systems. It is accurate… it is bloody… it’s absolutely no holds barred. If some school districts can hand out birth control to children… they sure as hell can hand out a book that describes why we’re free… and the bloody price we paid for our freedom.

This book is tremendous in the detail of such historical figures as General MacArthur… and the President whom I personally believe probably made more important decisions than any president in my lifetime… good old… “Give-Em-Hell” Harry S. Truman. (By the way… the “S” doesn’t stand for anything… that’s the kind of detail these authors inundate you with… and the bevy of footnotes throughout the book… are perfectly placed… and totally illuminating.) Even more impactful… than the big names like MacArthur, Truman, Tojo, Roosevelt… etc. etc… is the poetic telling of the everyday… your next door neighbor… the gas station attendant… the farmer… the high school teenagers… who immediately enlisted after Pearl Harbor. The authors’ so reverently… stop… on a dime… and tell you all about their bravery… most is too much to fully believe. So the endless-countless-faces of American’s that make our flag and country great share equal billing.

The savagery of the Japanese is not sugar coated. Everything from tying live human beings to trees and using them for bayonet practice… the joyful raping of tens of thousands Chinese… forcing Chinese families to perform atrocities on their own families… and the fact that it was almost fun and games to the Japanese civilians… as the hometown paper kept score of soldiers competing in how many heads they could chop off quicker.


And then the race to develop an atomic bomb… and the decision to use it. At the end of the book (this is not a spoiler) you will see letters from former Presidents… as to the right decision being made by “THE BUCK STOPS HERE” Harry S. Truman. Oh… to have a leader like Harry today.

To end my review… I can’t think of anything better than to share a quotation that I have had up on the wall in two rooms of my house for over twenty-five years:

*** THOSE WHO HAVE LONG ENJOYED ***
*** SUCH PRIVILEGES AS WE ENJOY ***
*** FORGET IN TIME ***
*** THAT MEN HAVE DIED TO WIN THEM”
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT    "









" Now I understand why China does not want American Troops along its border , Ronnie !!!!!!   "



LBJoeykins ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Sep 17th, 2016 at 1:41pm
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm sorry! That link for the Trump rallies with pop-ups is just temporary during that particular rally. Here's the good link.

https://www.youtube.com/user/psb2usa

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Sep 17th, 2016 at 2:06pm
Trump should build a wall around Joey's posts.

:solongsucker

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 18th, 2016 at 7:44am

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 8:11am:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 7:06am:
Joey? Edith?
http://www.people.com/article/trump-supporters-racist-sexist-rallies-nyt-video


It's a damn shame that jackasses exist on both ends of the spectrum.
Not really interested in a pissing match here, but I think it's necessary to remind you of the outright bloody violence that was committed by anti-Trump extremists right there in your hometown, SCL.


As reported by a left-leaning news source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/


Let the fools talk, they have that right, but beware of the radicals on both sides.
Fortunately, those radicals are in the minority.

We piss anywhere man. The difference is that Trump actively and openly promotes and encourages the radicals. He does nothing to discourage it. Twice he has openly encouraged his supporters to commit violence against Hillary. Yeah their are nut jobs everywhere. But I'm most concerned about the guy running for president who encourages the crazies.........................Happy 11,000 post to me.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Sep 18th, 2016 at 10:22am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 18th, 2016 at 7:44am:

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 8:11am:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 17th, 2016 at 7:06am:
Joey? Edith?
http://www.people.com/article/trump-supporters-racist-sexist-rallies-nyt-video


It's a damn shame that jackasses exist on both ends of the spectrum.
Not really interested in a pissing match here, but I think it's necessary to remind you of the outright bloody violence that was committed by anti-Trump extremists right there in your hometown, SCL.


As reported by a left-leaning news source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/


Let the fools talk, they have that right, but beware of the radicals on both sides.
Fortunately, those radicals are in the minority.

We piss anywhere man. The difference is that Trump actively and openly promotes and encourages the radicals. He does nothing it discourage it. Twice he has openly encouraged his supporters to commit violence against Hillary. Yeah their are nut jobs everywhere. But I'm most concerned about the guy running for president who encourages the crazies.........................Happy 11,000 post to me.


Hear, hear. And happy 11k posts.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 19th, 2016 at 9:36pm

" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!! "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 19th, 2016 at 9:50pm



mojo  .... ?!   ... !!!!! :





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:35am
https://youtu.be/n7dUhgMtFWs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 20th, 2016 at 3:16pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 20th, 2016 at 8:07pm
FUCK TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i WILL SAY THIS EVERYDAY UNTIL ELECTION DAY.....................Or until Gazza or Voodoo shuts down this thread. Or kicks me out. I will not stop my anti-Trump posts otherwise. This shit is too important to let that lunatic run free...............say what you want want about IORR. But one of the few good things BV ever did was ban political posts.  :willya :willya :willya :willya

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 20th, 2016 at 9:59pm




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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 20th, 2016 at 9:59pm



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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 22nd, 2016 at 9:37pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm:
Joey, you know it's Bill who is gonna be running the show when Hillary wins!
Yes we should!

How 'bout them baskets of deplorables?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76wzA2A2T1Q

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 5:53am
http://video.breitbart.com/?ndn.trackingGroup=90085&ndn.siteSection=breitbart_nws_pol_sty_vmpp&ndn.videoId=31425429&freewheel=90085&sitesection=breitbart_nws_pol_sty_vmpp&vid=31425429


:waka-jawaka :aimama :loloncemore :smilemick

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 9:43am




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http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-debate-dos-and-donts-1474586374


" Trump Debate Dos and Don’ts "

" Voters know he’s a scrapper. But he must show an optimistic vision for America.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL



" Which Donald Trump will show up to Hofstra University on Monday night for the first presidential debate? The Oval Office may hinge on that question.

Presidential debates always matter, but the stakes in this first Trump-Clinton faceoff are higher than most. Or at least they are for Mr. Trump. The billionaire’s biggest problem is that Americans remain unsure about what they would get with a Trump presidency.

Over the years they’ve seen Donald the reality TV star. They’ve seen Donald the one-time Democrat. They’ve seen Donald the unhinged. More recently, they’ve seen Donald the serious candidate. Yet Mr. Trump has no prior elected service from which to judge political or policy leadership. He has run only a few ads. For many voters, this first debate will be a (re)introduction, and at a critical time.

The matchup will provide an answer—one way or the other—to the central accusation against Mr. Trump. The overwhelming focus of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has been its unrelenting charge that he is unfit to be president. Polls show this resonates with voters. A recent New York Times/CBS survey found that 47% of registered voters thought a Clinton presidency would be a “safe” choice for the country, versus 30% who thought that about Mr. Trump. Fifty-five percent said that Mrs. Clinton had the “right kind of temperament” to be president, compared with 31% for Mr. Trump. On Monday voters will see how his temperament holds up under stress on live TV.

That’s why this is such a test. Mr. Trump’s disciplined campaigning lately has served him well and helps account for the tightening polls. But the discipline has been largely the result of prepared speeches, teleprompters, talking points, and a staff that is clearly working hard to keep him on message.

The Republican nominee’s worst moment in recent weeks was at NBC’s commander-in-chief forum, where he was tasked with talking off the cuff—and happily did so, in rambling fashion. Monday night’s debate, with hours of unscripted talk, offers plenty of opportunities for Mr. Trump to erase, with one loose-lipped error, what credibility he has built in the past month. Conversely, it could be the moment he begins to look seriously presidential.

The good news for Team Trump is that Mrs. Clinton—nothing if not unsubtle—is already radiating her main lines of attack. She will attempt to make him look stupid by chiding him for a lack of policy knowledge and sandbagging him with a “what is Aleppo” question. Her campaign team is already trying to pressure debate moderators into helping with a gotcha. Jennifer Palmieri, Mrs. Clinton’s communications director, groused on Wednesday that reporters “lower the bar” for Mr. Trump. She said debate moderators “need to ask substantive questions, factual questions.”

Mrs. Clinton will also attempt to needle Mr. Trump into an explosion. She must know (who doesn’t?) that nothing drives him to extremes more than personal attacks—on his wealth, Trump steaks, his lawsuits. Mrs. Clinton will attempt to turn the corruption question around on Mr. Trump, to call him out as a con man, but more to deflect attention from her own pay-to-play and email scandals. Once again she will paint him as the biggest rotten apple in that basket of deplorables.


Word is that Mr. Trump isn’t doing a whole lot of debate prep. But his team ought to have at least readied him for what should be the easy response to all the nasty attacks. Mrs. Clinton’s own past is so malodorous, so rife with crooked deals and lies, that Mr. Trump shouldn’t have to do much more than calmly question her credibility and then move on to better subjects.

Mr. Trump’s impulse no doubt will be to take it to her, to hit back, to dwell on Mrs. Clinton’s malfeasance. No doubt a few tough reminders to the audience of her ethical failings are necessary. But everyone already knows Mr. Trump is a scrapper. What he needs to show now is that he has his own optimistic and considered plans for change in America. This is one of his openings. In that same New York Times/CBS poll, 48% of voters felt Mr. Trump could bring about “real change.” Only 36% said that of Mrs. Clinton.

By being positive, Mr. Trump would draw a stark contrast. Mrs. Clinton these days looks perpetually angry and seems to have only one volume setting: yell. The press keeps noting that she is a seasoned debater, but then again she has mostly debated fellow Democrats and been questioned by sympathetic press. Her style is fairly predictable.

Mr. Trump is by contrast new to this. But that also gives him an advantage, in that he has the freedom and the personality to be unconventional and unpredictable. It could give him new momentum toward the White House—if he can get this first one right.   "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 10:00am

Joey wrote on Sep 23rd, 2016 at 9:43am:
<     ------------ Some Guy   ?!    ,  Edith ?!  .... !!!!!!!    :





http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-debate-dos-and-donts-1474586374


" Trump Debate Dos and Don’ts "

" Voters know he’s a scrapper. But he must show an optimistic vision for America.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL



" Which Donald Trump will show up to Hofstra University on Monday night for the first presidential debate? The Oval Office may hinge on that question.

Presidential debates always matter, but the stakes in this first Trump-Clinton faceoff are higher than most. Or at least they are for Mr. Trump. The billionaire’s biggest problem is that Americans remain unsure about what they would get with a Trump presidency.

Over the years they’ve seen Donald the reality TV star. They’ve seen Donald the one-time Democrat. They’ve seen Donald the unhinged. More recently, they’ve seen Donald the serious candidate. Yet Mr. Trump has no prior elected service from which to judge political or policy leadership. He has run only a few ads. For many voters, this first debate will be a (re)introduction, and at a critical time.

Donald Trump speaks during a Republican presidential debate in Coral Gables, Fla., March 10. ENLARGE
Donald Trump speaks during a Republican presidential debate in Coral Gables, Fla., March 10. PHOTO: ASSOCIATED PRESS
The matchup will provide an answer—one way or the other—to the central accusation against Mr. Trump. The overwhelming focus of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign has been its unrelenting charge that he is unfit to be president. Polls show this resonates with voters. A recent New York Times/CBS survey found that 47% of registered voters thought a Clinton presidency would be a “safe” choice for the country, versus 30% who thought that about Mr. Trump. Fifty-five percent said that Mrs. Clinton had the “right kind of temperament” to be president, compared with 31% for Mr. Trump. On Monday voters will see how his temperament holds up under stress on live TV.

That’s why this is such a test. Mr. Trump’s disciplined campaigning lately has served him well and helps account for the tightening polls. But the discipline has been largely the result of prepared speeches, teleprompters, talking points, and a staff that is clearly working hard to keep him on message.

The Republican nominee’s worst moment in recent weeks was at NBC’s commander-in-chief forum, where he was tasked with talking off the cuff—and happily did so, in rambling fashion. Monday night’s debate, with hours of unscripted talk, offers plenty of opportunities for Mr. Trump to erase, with one loose-lipped error, what credibility he has built in the past month. Conversely, it could be the moment he begins to look seriously presidential.

The good news for Team Trump is that Mrs. Clinton—nothing if not unsubtle—is already radiating her main lines of attack. She will attempt to make him look stupid by chiding him for a lack of policy knowledge and sandbagging him with a “what is Aleppo” question. Her campaign team is already trying to pressure debate moderators into helping with a gotcha. Jennifer Palmieri, Mrs. Clinton’s communications director, groused on Wednesday that reporters “lower the bar” for Mr. Trump. She said debate moderators “need to ask substantive questions, factual questions.”

Mrs. Clinton will also attempt to needle Mr. Trump into an explosion. She must know (who doesn’t?) that nothing drives him to extremes more than personal attacks—on his wealth, Trump steaks, his lawsuits. Mrs. Clinton will attempt to turn the corruption question around on Mr. Trump, to call him out as a con man, but more to deflect attention from her own pay-to-play and email scandals. Once again she will paint him as the biggest rotten apple in that basket of deplorables.


Word is that Mr. Trump isn’t doing a whole lot of debate prep. But his team ought to have at least readied him for what should be the easy response to all the nasty attacks. Mrs. Clinton’s own past is so malodorous, so rife with crooked deals and lies, that Mr. Trump shouldn’t have to do much more than calmly question her credibility and then move on to better subjects.

Mr. Trump’s impulse no doubt will be to take it to her, to hit back, to dwell on Mrs. Clinton’s malfeasance. No doubt a few tough reminders to the audience of her ethical failings are necessary. But everyone already knows Mr. Trump is a scrapper. What he needs to show now is that he has his own optimistic and considered plans for change in America. This is one of his openings. In that same New York Times/CBS poll, 48% of voters felt Mr. Trump could bring about “real change.” Only 36% said that of Mrs. Clinton.

By being positive, Mr. Trump would draw a stark contrast. Mrs. Clinton these days looks perpetually angry and seems to have only one volume setting: yell. The press keeps noting that she is a seasoned debater, but then again she has mostly debated fellow Democrats and been questioned by sympathetic press. Her style is fairly predictable.

Mr. Trump is by contrast new to this. But that also gives him an advantage, in that he has the freedom and the personality to be unconventional and unpredictable. It could give him new momentum toward the White House—if he can get this first one right.   "






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 24th, 2016 at 10:05am
      " The Japanese military carefully regulates the '  comfort stations  '  in which these women are forced to work  ,  controlling security to make sure the victims do not escape and regularly checking them for sexually transmitted diseases  .  The practice began after the invasion of China and continued to other nations as Japan took control of the Pacific  . Women from Taiwan , the Philippines , Korea , Indonesia , Burma , and Holland have been taken captive and repeatedly raped by Japanese soldiers .   
     ' Sometimes twelve soldiers would force me to have sex with them and then they would allow me to rest for awhile  , then about twelve soldiers would have sex with me again , '  a Filipino woman will recount almost fifty years later .  ' You cannot say no as they will definitely kill you . During the mornings , you have a guard . You are free to roam around the garrison , but you can not get out .  ' 
     The ratio of soldiers to comfort women could range as high as 150  to 1  , depending upon the region . The Japanese war leadership actually incorporated forced prostitution into its war plan , believing that it elevated troop morale .
     ' When the soldiers came back from the battlefields , as many as twenty men would come to my room from early morning ,  '  another comfort woman will one day recount  .  ' They rounded up little girls still in school .  Their genitals were still underdeveloped , so they became torn and infected . There was no medicine except something to prevent sexually transmitted diseases and Mercurochrome . They got sick , their sores became septic ,  but there was no treatment .
     Not all the ' comfort stations  ' are buildings .
     ' The soldiers made Chinese laborers lay straw in the trenches and the girls were put in there , '  one woman will remember . ' There was no bedding  .... underneath was earth .  There was no electricity at that time , only oil lamps , but they weren't even given a lamp  .  They cried in the dark , ' Mummy , it hurts! ' "    





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 24th, 2016 at 11:07am


Nanky   ?!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oonhns1xAFw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 26th, 2016 at 8:08am


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:12am
Hillary gonna get Trumped.......developing

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Sep 26th, 2016 at 10:09am

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Hillary gonna get Trumped.......developing


The only real loser tonight is the American people because this all they have to choose from? Regardless of the outcome a Pinochio will be President. More lies than can be counted.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 26th, 2016 at 10:09am

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Hillary gonna get Trumped.......developing



We got the Big " Mo " Edith  !!!!!!


Gonna be Sweet !!!!!!





" Best Donald J. Trump YET  , Ronnie !!!!   "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:51pm







An Outstanding Debate    ............ Well Done .....   How about a few more ?! ..........  !!!!!!!!



" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72-gPbl_sI0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYscZeL2iYM


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:50am

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:30am
Flipped over and looked at some of this crap between the game. Why was Trump sniffing so much?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:35am
Did anybody see this guy last night ??



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Sep 27th, 2016 at 8:08am

Some Guy wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:30am:
Flipped over and looked at some of this crap between the game. Why was Trump sniffing so much?


No stamina......

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 27th, 2016 at 8:49am

leonid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 1:50am:



FUNNY !!!!! :)



That is Postin' on Loan from GOD !!!!

That is what me Lil' Friends and meself running around the plains of Nebraska ( circa 1974 ) playing stickball in the street used to call Postin '  .  You are POSTIN' !!!!!!



" Now that is POSTIN'   ....   ,  Ronnie !!!!!!   "



O'kins ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 27th, 2016 at 4:10pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:30am:
Flipped over and looked at some of this crap between the game. Why was Trump sniffing so much?

Because Hillary kicked his ass so bad. Trump was sniveling like the little bitch he is. FUCK TRUMP. NEVER TRUMP.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 27th, 2016 at 9:48pm

Some Guy wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 5:30am:
Flipped over and looked at some of this crap between the game. Why was Trump sniffing so much?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGnCIdHQH0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:08pm
Mr. Trump's economic plan: Give more tax breaks to the rich, and the wealth will just trickle down to all the poor people!  Ha!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 29th, 2016 at 9:36am


<  ------- Some Guy   ?!   ...... !!!!!!! :





http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trump-mosh-pit-1475103216



" The Trump Mosh Pit  "


" Only one of Monday’s debaters is still in sync with the country’s restless mood.   "


By DANIEL HENNINGER




" It’s past time that we all come to grips with the reality that the Trump candidacy has been carried forward to this unlikely moment by forces in the American population that transcend normal presidential politics. These are essentially the same forces that carried the equally improbable Bernie Sanders to 22 primary victories.

I’ve always found the Sanders phenomenon more interesting, because unlike the well-known reality TV host and brand manager, Sen. Sanders was a 74-year-old Vermont socialist with zero visibility. That this nobody contended with a woman whose political immensity scared off a sitting vice president means that some deep currents are roiling the American electorate.

An agog media class—I was certainly agog—has identified that “something” as anger, frustration, white rage or PC backlash. Call it whatever you want. It’s real, and I don’t think Monday night’s debate killed it. Which is why I don’t think Donald Trump “lost” the debate.

This week’s media meme—that Hillary Clinton wiped the floor with Mr. Trump—is undervaluing the realities of this unusual election.

We have been through this exercise so many times with Donald Trump. When in July last year he said of Sen. John McCain, “He’s not a war hero,” I, like others, thought, he’s done. You cannot run for president and say an American military man who was tortured in a North Vietnam prison camp is no hero. Everyone, including the umpteen GOP candidates, thought Mr. Trump’s early primary surge would collapse.

Of course the Trump contraption rattled forward, surviving one awful gaffe after another. The meme then (as now) was that the Trump supporters were basically idiots—now known as the deplorables. Well, it’s also true that you can pay a king’s ransom to watch the New York Yankees from the box seats with normal people or a lot less to sit in the upper deck with guys who will F-bomb your kids for nine innings. They’re all cheering for the same team. Welcome to America. Welcome to the Trump mosh pit.

Let us turn, then, to who said what in the debate for some understanding of the Trump paradox: How can a candidate get this far by seeming to say so little that we normally expect of a president?

The word “sound bite,” a term of usage originating in television, is now viewed with derision. Except for one thing: Sound bites work. They convey one idea and stick that idea in the mind. Recite, please, one memorable thing Hillary Clinton said in more than 90 minutes. OK, “trumped-up trickle down.” Her debate was well-constructed, but so is a paint-by-numbers picture.

At one point, Mrs. Clinton was talking about “investing in the middle class,” and “making college debt-free” and “broad-based inclusive growth.”

Trump: “Typical politician. All talk, no action. Sounds good, doesn’t work. Never going to happen. Our country is suffering because people like Secretary Clinton have made such bad decisions in terms of our jobs and in terms of what’s going on.”

Without question much of the Trump side of the debate was a discontinuous morass. But Donald Trump oozes contempt for the status quo. That visceral disdain offsets a lot of missteps and whatever Hillary’s fact-check drones are putting up on her website.


There was an exchange on urban violence. Mrs. Clinton said, “We have to restore trust. We have to work with the police” and “we have to tackle the plague of gun violence.” Who could disagree?

Donald Trump. “Secretary Clinton doesn’t want to use a couple of words. And that’s law and order. We need law and order. If we don’t have it, we’re not going to have a country.”


One of these two is catching the mood of the country, and the other just isn’t.

Are we demeaning a presidential election by saying it is reducible to sound bites? I once thought so. Until it became clear that Donald Trump, like Bernie Sanders, was somehow detecting the complex tectonic shifts inside American politics.

Some of these shifts are disturbing—blue-collar alienation, eroding civil order in some cities—but unlike his always-hedged opponent, Donald Trump slams into them.

This sort of populism is exciting, but often limited.

Bernie went down because he was too one-note. Inequality wasn’t enough. Donald Trump’s one-note is trade, but his overweighting of the issue could sink him. Millions of the suburban voters he needs in battleground states have jobs connected to a strong global trading system. They don’t want to vote for Hillary, but past some point, the “Nafta” rant may prove too much.

So it’s back to the mosh pit. Yankee fans, from the boxes to the bleachers, love their team. But if a guy underperforms or dogs it, they’ll boo him mercilessly. Donald Trump survived Monday night. But one more outing like that, and his phenomenal candidacy could get booed off the field.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Sep 29th, 2016 at 5:07pm
Joey?

https://youtu.be/fi9esiTnNv4
Roger Waters yesterday in Mexico City

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:39pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Joey?

https://youtu.be/fi9esiTnNv4
Roger Waters yesterday in Mexico City

Why don't Roger and David get together for one more tour and bust out some of these great old Floyd tunes together? :willya

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 29th, 2016 at 9:38pm


S.C.L  ............... ?!


Voo ................ ?!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6TkGmXE3pU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 29th, 2016 at 9:45pm


" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!  "



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaaWWz5Z0A

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Sep 29th, 2016 at 9:58pm

gimmekeef wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 10:09am:

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 9:12am:
Hillary gonna get Trumped.......developing


The only real loser tonight is the American people because this all they have to choose from? Regardless of the outcome a Pinochio will be President. More lies than can be counted.






http://www.wsj.com/articles/jim-comeys-blind-eye-1475191703



" Jim Comey’s Blind Eye  "


" The FBI director can’t defend immunity for Hillary Clinton’s aides—which says volumes.  "




By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" Two revealing, if largely unnoticed, moments came in the middle of FBI Director Jim Comey’s Wednesday testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. When combined, these moments prove that Mr. Comey gave Hillary Clinton a pass.

Congress hauled Mr. Comey in to account for the explosive revelation that the government granted immunity to Clinton staffers Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson as part of its investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton had mishandled classified information. Rep. Tom Marino (R., Pa.), who was once a Justice Department prosecutor and knows how these investigations roll, provided the first moment. He asked Mr. Comey why Ms. Mills was so courteously offered immunity in return for her laptop—a laptop that Mr. Comey admitted investigators were very keen to obtain. Why not simply impanel a grand jury, get a subpoena, and seize the evidence?

Mr. Comey’s answer was enlightening: “It’s a reasonable question. . . . Any time you are talking about the prospect of subpoenaing a computer from a lawyer—that involves the lawyer’s practice of law—you know you are getting into a big megillah.” Pressed further, he added: “In general, you can often do things faster with informal agreements, especially when you are interacting with lawyers.”

The key words: “The lawyer’s practice of law.” What Mr. Comey was referencing here is attorney-client privilege. Ms. Mills was able to extract an immunity deal, avoid answering questions, and sit in on Mrs. Clinton’s FBI interview because she has positioned herself as Hillary’s personal lawyer. Ms. Mills could therefore claim that any conversations or interactions she had with Mrs. Clinton about the private server were protected by attorney-client privilege.

Only here’s the rub: When Ms. Mills worked at the State Department she was not acting as Mrs. Clinton’s personal lawyer. She was the secretary's chief of staff. Any interaction with Mrs. Clinton about her server, or any evidence from that time, should have been fair game for the FBI and the Justice Department.

Ms. Mills was allowed to get away with this “attorney-client privilege” nonsense only because she claimed that she did not know about Mrs. Clinton’s server until after they had both left the State Department. Ergo, no questions about the server.

The FBI has deliberately chosen to accept this lie. The notes of its interview with Ms. Mills credulously states: “Mills did not learn Clinton was using a private email server until after Clinton’s tenure” at State. It added: “Mills stated she was not even sure she knew what a server was at the time.”

Which brings us to the hearing’s second revealing moment. Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R., Utah) pointed out that the FBI’s notes from its interview with Clinton IT staffer Bryan Pagliano expose this lie. In late 2009 or early 2010, Mr. Pagliano told investigators, he approached Ms. Mills to relay State Department concerns that the private server might pose a “federal records retention issue.” According to Mr. Pagliano, Ms. Mills told him not to worry about it, because other secretaries of state had used similar setups.

More damning, Mr. Chaffetz held up an email that Ms. Mills sent in 2010 to Justin Cooper, whom the Clintons personally employed to help maintain the server. The email reads: “hrc email coming back—is server okay?” Mr. Cooper responds: “Ur funny. We are on the same server.”

To be clear: When Mrs. Clinton had an email problem, Ms. Mills didn’t call the State Department’s help desk. She didn’t call Yahoo customer service. She called a privately employed Clinton aide and asked specifically about Mrs. Clinton’s “server.” She did this as chief of staff at the State Department. Mr. Chaffetz asked Mr. Comey why the FBI wrote that Ms. Mills was ignorant about the server until later.


Mr. Comey suddenly sounded like a man with something to hide. “I don’t remember exactly, sitting here,” he said, in what can only be called the FBI version of “I don’t recall.” He then mumbled that “Having done many investigations myself, there’s always conflicting recollections of facts, some of which are central, some of which are peripheral. I don’t remember, sitting here, about that one.”

Really? Only a few minutes before he had explained that the Justice Department was forced to issue immunity to Ms. Mills because she had asserted attorney-client privilege. Yet he couldn’t remember all the glaring evidence proving she had no such privilege? Usually, the FBI takes a dim view of witnesses who lie. Had the FBI pursued perjury charges against Ms. Mills—as it would have done against anyone else—it would have had extraordinary leverage to force her to speak about all of her communications regarding the server. It might have even threatened to build a case that Ms. Mills was part of a criminal scheme. Then it could have offered immunity in return for the real goods on Hillary.

But going that route would have required grand juries, subpoenas, warrants and indictments—all things that Mr. Comey clearly wanted to avoid in this politically sensitive investigation. Much easier to turn a blind eye to Ms. Mills’s fiction. And to therefore give Mrs. Clinton a pass.   "


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:22pm
Wow!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTKsO8ChcXw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:25pm
Wow! Wow!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7j86EC6gAM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child In Wonderland on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:26pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:39pm:
Why don't Roger and David get together for one more tour and bust out some of these great old Floyd tunes together?


With Nick too, that will be GREAT, the shows by Roger now are only PInk Floyd (60s anhd 70s only) music

Same for Jimmy Page and RObert Plant, they can tour as Led Zeppelin with Jason and that will be another GREAT tour

that and why don't Jimmy and Robert come out to tour as Led Zeppelin

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:30pm
Wow!  Wow!  Wow!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdTDxhIv-eM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Oct 1st, 2016 at 1:28pm
I tend to believe this because I've been hearing the same stuff everyone else has about his business dealings. Rand Paul was the one I wanted but I think Trump is a better pick than pretty much anyone else in either party. IMO Hillary thinks of us as subjects to be ruled and Trump thinks of us as citizens to be governed. But I think we're in for an economic collapse worse than 2008 within the next 4 years no matter who gets elected.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 1st, 2016 at 8:34pm

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:26pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:39pm:
Why don't Roger and David get together for one more tour and bust out some of these great old Floyd tunes together?


With Nick too, that will be GREAT, the shows by Roger now are only PInk Floyd (60s anhd 70s only) music

Same for Jimmy Page and RObert Plant, they can tour as Led Zeppelin with Jason and that will be another GREAT tour

that and why don't Jimmy and Robert

B-b-b But Jimmy said he's touring in 2017 with his own band he puts together............Of course he's said that the last two years.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 8:27am
October Surpprise! Bombshell!!

IT'S OVER

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tax-bombshell-may-not-have-paid-for-18-years_us_57f07866e4b082aad9bbadad?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 9:02am

a.completeunknown wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 1:28pm:
I tend to believe this because I've been hearing the same stuff everyone else has about his business dealings. Rand Paul was the one I wanted but I think Trump is a better pick than pretty much anyone else in either party. IMO Hillary thinks of us as subjects to be ruled and Trump thinks of us as citizens to be governed. But I think we're in for an economic collapse worse than 2008 within the next 4 years no matter who gets elected.














" Once KGB  , ALWAYS KGB  , Ronnie !!!!   "


J.  " Edgar " Hoover !  ® ™ ©

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 10:09am
     " As Truman now chats with the young sailors prior to eating lunch , Captain Frank H. Graham approaches the table holding a map of Japan and a teletype message . Hiroshima is circled in red pencil on the map . The message reads : ' Hiroshima bombed visually ... Results clear cut successful in all respects . Visible effects greater than in any test . Conditions normal in airplane following delivery.  '
     Truman's face lights up  . ' This is the greatest thing in history  ,  ' he proclaims to Graham  ,  enthusiastically shaking his hand . '  It is time for us to get home . '
     The president then orders Graham to share the secret message with Secretary of State James F. Byrnes   , sitting just a few tables away  . A second teletype arrives moments later from Secretary of War Henry Stimson confirming the previous report . '   Big Bomb dropped on Hiroshima August 5 at 7:15 p.m. Washington time . First reports indicate complete success .  '   
     Truman can not help himself : leaping to his feet , he taps his water glass with a fork  .  At first  , there is confusion  . These military men immediately rise to attention , realizing the impropriety of the President standing as they sit . But Truman waves them back down : ' Please keep your seats and listen for a moment . I have an announcement to make . We have just dropped a new bomb on Japan which has more power than twenty thousand tons of TNT . It has been an overwhelming success! '
     Bedlam sweeps through the mess hall . Cheers echo down the ship's passageways . A grinning Truman holds the teletype message aloft as he races from the mess hall and runs down the corridor to share the news with Augusta's officers . ' We won the gamble , ' he shouts above the jubilant celebration .
     Everyone believes that the end of the war has arrived .
     They are wrong .  "   






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 10:34am
     " Three milliseconds later , the sky erupts into a fireball three hundred yards wide as the surrounding air ignites , liquefying everyone in its proximity .
     Then comes the blast as the explosion rockets outward with the force of twenty thousand tons of TNT , followed immediately by a billowing mushroom cloud that rises more than fifty thousand feet into the air  , sucking  up dust , dirt , and bodily gases from the vaporized remains of those killed at the hypocenter .
     Within seconds , seventy thousand people are dead .
     Almost every person and building within a one - mile radius of the hypocenter has vanished .
     Pets , birds , rats , ants , cockroaches  -- gone .
     Homes , fishing boats , telephone poles , the centuries - old Hiroshima Castle   -- all disappeared .
     Day turns into night as the mushroom cloud blots out the sun . Beyond the one - mile radius of the hypocenter , some have survived , though at a horrible cost  . Flash burns blind all those unfortunate to be caught looking in the direction of the blast , while the intense heat maims and disfigures thousands , many of whom live miles away  . One group of Japanese soldiers is burned so badly that their faces literally melt away ; it is impossible to distinguish the back of their heads from the front .  "



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 12:43pm
According to the BBC, Donald Trump has ties to the mob!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3B-tw2sB0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 4:13pm

gorda wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 12:43pm:
According to the BBC, Donald Trump has ties to the mob!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3B-tw2sB0


Edith/Riffy do not care. Trump all the way!!


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 8:15am





<  ------------   It Is Coming   !!!!! :



Fact or Fiction ?!   




http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/huge-scandal-chelsea-isnt-bill-clintons-daughter/







" Politics Ain't Bean Bag  , Ronnie !!!!!!   "



LBJoeykins ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 10:17am

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 7:56pm

Joey wrote on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 8:15am:
<  ------------   It Is Coming   !!!!! :



Fact or Fiction ?!   




http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/huge-scandal-chelsea-isnt-bill-clintons-daughter/







" Politics Ain't Bean Bag  , Ronnie !!!!!!   "



LBJoeykins ®


DNA test!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 3rd, 2016 at 9:02pm






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 4th, 2016 at 9:44pm




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP1hPPFBht0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 5th, 2016 at 9:29am
Some Guy ?




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 5th, 2016 at 9:25pm


" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!! "





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 7th, 2016 at 9:36am



<   ------ Some Guy  ...... ?!  ..... !!!!!!!!    :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-obamacare-silence-1475797216



" Trump’s ObamaCare Silence   "


" The failing health law should be his best weapon, but he seems unable to wield it.   "


By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" There is such a thing as a political goof. It should not be confused with a cosmic political error, mind-boggling in its inanity, inexplicable on any level, the electoral equivalent of stuffing your opponent’s ballot box.

An example of the latter is Donald Trump’s failure to jump on ObamaCare as an excellent path to the White House.

We are one month from an election, and President Barack Obama’s signature achievement is cratering, destroying millions of pocketbooks in its wake. States are reporting premium increases of 60%, 70%, 80%. Insurers, sagging under losses, are fleeing. Nearly a third of U.S. counties are now down to a single ObamaCare plan. Seventeen of 23 ObamaCare co-ops have imploded. Tennessee’s insurance commissioner warns her state’s exchange market is “very near collapse.”

The law’s supporters are flailing, incapable of defending it during this public death spiral. Ezekiel Emanuel, the physician who was one of the architects of the law, was left stammering on Megyn Kelly’s Fox News show this week. Dr. Emanuel said that these premium increases are a one-time “correction.” He hilariously blamed Republicans for refusing to bail out the system. Bill Clinton, who is becoming ever more honest in his dotage, went on an extended riff about how his party’s health-care system was the “craziest thing in the world.”

Hillary Clinton has no such out, having fiercely embraced ObamaCare. She owns it, every bit as much as the president, having pledged to “defend and expand” it. Only this week Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta, reiterated that she views the law as a “success” and plans to “build on it.”

Were she required to explain how to fix it—an obvious question never asked of her—she would nonetheless be forced to propose: a) more bailouts and subsidies; b) more coercive ways of forcing people into the system; or c) a government-run public option. Or all of the above. All of these choices are implicit acknowledgments of the program’s failure, and dead losers with voters.

For Republicans, ObamaCare has proved to be a political winner. The revolt against the law in 2010, back when it was not even real enough to have failed, propelled one of the greatest GOP gains in the House and the state legislatures in history. This is not some peripheral policy question—fracking, labor law, trade. Health care is the daily concern and frustration of nearly every American voter, right up there with paying the mortgage, the grocery bill and the IRS.

Yet Mr. Trump is almost entirely, and eerily, silent on the topic. In his prepared speeches, he gives ObamaCare a rote and glancing reference, part of a promise to repeal it. Trump news releases fly daily about the Clintons’ corruption and the problems with the North American Free Trade Agreement. But there is nary a whisper about the health-care system that is melting down across the country. Where are the ads? Where is the big speech?

Mr. Trump’s running mate, Mike Pence, appears to be warming to the issue. He at least warned during Tuesday’s vice-presidential debate that a Clinton White House would build ObamaCare into a socialist, “single-payer” system. He has been reassuring conservative voters that a Trump administration would scrap the law’s contraceptive mandate. Asked about Mr. Clinton’s “craziest-in-the-world” judgment, Mr. Pence quipped that “sometimes with the Clintons, even the truth happens.”

Those eight words were eight more than Mr. Trump devoted to ObamaCare during his first debate with Mrs. Clinton. During that face-off, the Republican nominee spent a full minute giving the ins and outs of the leverage on his business. He failed to mention the failing health law even once.

Mr. Trump’s quiet is so pronounced as to seem almost intentional. The Republican primaries showed that he is uncomfortable talking about health-care reform. ( Marco Rubio once accused him of having no plan other than to get rid of the insurance “lines around the states.”)

The Republican nominee might be wary of being drawn into a debate on a topic he seems to know little about. He also might be reluctant to field questions from the press about how he would handle the few popular aspects of the law—such as coverage for existing conditions. His website is relatively vague on what would replace ObamaCare, citing only broadly agreed-upon conservative ideas, such as creating more health savings accounts.


But Mr. Trump might consider that his silence is doing damage to more than simply himself. Across the country, Republican candidates are facing voters angry about health care. It would help immensely if they could argue that repealing ObamaCare would be the pressing priority of a Trump administration. After years of having President Obama halt every GOP attempt to patch the law’s holes, this is an extraordinary moment in which the party can tantalize voters with the hope that the nightmare might end.

But to do that, Mr. Trump has to capitalize on one of the greatest political gifts any presidential candidate has ever been given.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 7th, 2016 at 9:07pm
Mr. Trump, "the ladies man"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMGRPVXdT0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 8th, 2016 at 10:27am

gorda wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
Mr. Trump, "the ladies man"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMGRPVXdT0

He's a charmer ain't he?  :pukey

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 8th, 2016 at 10:48am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 8th, 2016 at 10:27am:

gorda wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
Mr. Trump, "the ladies man"?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMGRPVXdT0

He's a charmer ain't he?  :pukey

Ha!  Ha! 

Actually, I'm secretly fascinated with his tiny mouth.  I would like to feed him with a tiny, little spoon.  (Nothing sexual)  Just something I thought about.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Tumbling Dijs on Oct 8th, 2016 at 1:30pm
Robert De Niro, love this man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q-ZyW9bz5c

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 9th, 2016 at 11:20am
Cape Fear was a good movie!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_nBoVgdMI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 9th, 2016 at 1:00pm
     " Fat Man is indeed off target , missing the Mitsubishi torpedo plant by almost two miles .
     It does not matter .
     ' The pillar of fire became a living thing , ' New York Times journalist William Laurence will write , watching the explosion on board the Great Artiste .  ' A species of being born right before incredulous eyes . It seethed and boiled in white fury like a thousand geysers .  '
     On the ground in Nagasaki , an estimated forty - five thousand men , women and children die instantly ; another sixty thousand are badly injured . There is no firestorm , as in Hiroshima , because Fat Man detonates in the foothills of the steep , wooded folds of the Urakami Valley , thus preventing the blast from expanding outward .  However , the traumatic flash burns and the carbonization of the dead and dying are no less intense .
     Once again , thousands are crushed in the rubble of their own homes and businesses . The unique construction of Nagasaki's bomb shelters , which are mostly caves dug into the hillsides , turns the stone passageways into ovens that burn hundreds alive in an instant . Throughout he city , many of the burned walk for miles before collapsing and dying . Still others suffer not just from burns but also from vomiting and bloody diarrhea , which kill them within a week of Fat Man's detonation . Thousands of victims watch their skin grow yellow ; they are doomed to die weeks and months later from radiation poisoning . The city of Nagasaki , having no place to bury all the bodies , establishes open - air crematoriums to burn the dead .  "








Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 10th, 2016 at 11:43am


*************  {   "  YES SIR !!!!!!  "    }   ******************




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 10th, 2016 at 3:47pm
Lying ass Donald Trump.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-pulled-back-kill-shot-145130698.html

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 10th, 2016 at 4:24pm
Joey Bone?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/politics/debate-ken-bone-staring-man-trnd/index.html?utm_content=bufferf58f9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 10th, 2016 at 8:59pm


<  ------------   " I Love You All !!!!!   "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 10th, 2016 at 9:36pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
Lying ass Donald Trump.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-pulled-back-kill-shot-145130698.html



***************  " SIGH !!!!!  "   *******************





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fo31ds7ql0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 11th, 2016 at 5:28am
Joey ?


https://youtu.be/akdzSFNa4XE

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2016 at 5:30am




Yes Edith !!!!!!  :  Joey   :


https://youtu.be/akdzSFNa4XE

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2016 at 9:24pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaaWWz5Z0A

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2016 at 9:37pm

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 10th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
Lying ass Donald Trump.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-pulled-back-kill-shot-145130698.html


<     ---------     It is Coming !!!!!!!






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et38_Ufv-Jw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2016 at 9:41pm



" I LOVE YOU ALL  !!!!!!   "




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGnCIdHQH0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 11th, 2016 at 9:56pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ko8nMmFY4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 12th, 2016 at 6:30am
Joey, even your A game can't save this thread.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 12th, 2016 at 1:51pm
Russian official drops 'p' word in describing 2016 race


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov raised eyebrows Wednesday when he said there were "p***ies on both sides of the U.S. presidential election.

CNN host Christiane Amanpour made reference to the anti-government protest band "Pussy Riot" when asking Lavrov about the controversy surrounding lewd remarks Trump made in 2005, and which were leaked Friday.

"Russia has had its own Pussy Riot moment. What do you think of Donald Trump’s Pussy Riot moment?" she asked.

The interview went downhill from there.

"English is not my mother tongue, I don't know if I would sound decent. There are so many p***ies around the presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment on this," Lavrov said.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/events/elections-2016-live-blog

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 12th, 2016 at 3:56pm
Mick Jagger on why he can't trump Trump:


Don't forget to turn on the sound....

https://twitter.com/RollingStones/status/786267908343083012?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Oct 12th, 2016 at 5:09pm
just checking to see if Riffy showed up to call anyone a limp wristed libtard that's destroying America....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 12th, 2016 at 6:00pm

Pdog wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 5:09pm:
just checking to see if Riffy showed up to call anyone a limp wristed libtard that's destroying America....


meet me in the future not the pasture.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 10:33am



<  ---------- Some Guy   ?!  .... !!!!! :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-party-of-one-1476313703


" Trump’s Party of One  "

" Donald Trump is right where he wants to be—alone, and at the center of it all.  "



By DANIEL HENNINGER



" The 2016 presidential election feels like a 1930s Hollywood movie about people lost in a jungle. No, not “ King Kong.” The one in which lost souls slog and sweat through a swamp, attacked by bugs, cobwebs and things falling out of the trees. Inevitably there’s a moment when one of the party, gripped by fever, abandons the group and heads deeper into the swamp alone.

Donald Trump is now a party of one. It’s better that way.

Never forget that Donald Trump is a celebrity. He called his show “The Celebrity Apprentice” and stocked it with celebrities because he saw that America’s appetite for fame had become limitless.

Mr. Trump, however, was not just one of the dime-a-dozen celebrities who pile up like tumbleweeds on reality TV. Donald Trump was—and remains—a mega-celebrity. He exists in the upper atmosphere of fame where people are known by one name: Beyoncé, Gaga, Tiger, Trump.

Defining Mr. Trump as a celebrity is not intended as denigration. It is an admission of some realities about him that the political culture never quite recognized.

At some point in the upward spiral, whether they wish it or not, celebrities separate from everyone else. They are powerful, charismatic, often petulant loners.

One of the reigning ideas in political science is that presidential candidates emerge from an array of forces—politicians, activists, donors—who ultimately come together around an individual who is best able to carry the party flag of Republican or Democrat.

It was never in the cards that Donald Trump, an utterly unique phenomenon, would integrate his interests with the interests of the Republican Party. The two simply don’t inhabit the same space.

“It is so nice that the shackles have been taken off me,” he tweeted, “and I can now fight for America the way I want to.” Take his word for it: Donald Trump is where he wants to be—alone, the center of it all, a party of one.

It is almost surely true that the GOP’s three principal figures—Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell—always understood this. But there was no chance—none—that any would ever admit that Mr. Trump was running as an independent candidate inside the formal structure of the Republican Party. Mr. Trump’s 45% plurality in the primaries—and the possibility that some of them might defect from the party’s candidates—guaranteed that this obvious reality could never go public.

This meant that nearly all other Republican candidates would have to survive in a universe different than Donald Trump’s. From the day Mr. Trump secured the nomination, there was never much chance that he would integrate his personal fame, for example, with the pedestrian daily grind and needs of a Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire or Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania.

Whether they or the other at-risk candidates— Richard Burr, Rob Portman, Ron Johnson or Mark Kirk—should have been pro-Trump or anti-Trump is at this point a secondary matter to the practical realities of their own campaigns.

Donald Trump passes in and out of their states like a visiting meteor. It’s an awesome event, but there’s nothing they can do but gape, and get back to work inside the smaller orbit of a North Carolina or Wisconsin.


Many Trump supporters are currently in a rage because these candidates won’t merely attach themselves to Mr. Trump’s candidacy. But that is hard to do when every few days the mercurial Mr. Trump is producing a personal October surprise or midcourse policy correction.

Some may call this genius. It still means that these candidates, rather than conduct a consistent campaign of their own, must answer reporters’ questions about every new variable or revelation that is wholly idiosyncratic to Mr. Trump. It’s impossible.

The question now is whether Republican voters and Mr. Trump’s supporters can distinguish between his unique candidacy and everything else. In short: Forget unity and live with the reality before everyone’s eyes.

His most dedicated supporters either will stay aloft to share in his go-it-alone, in-your-face triumph, or fall to earth with him. But refusing to vote for at-risk Republican incumbents because of insufficient Trump loyalty or disdain for his candidacy is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Just two years ago, voters sent arguably the strongest class to the U.S. Senate in a generation, including Tom Cotton, Cory Gardner, Joni Ernst, Ben Sasse and Dan Sullivan. Now many of these same voters are threatening to tell them: Drop dead under the thumbs of Chuck Schumer, Elizabeth Warren and Nancy Pelosi. The Clinton super PAC, Priorities USA, is spending money on congressional races to achieve precisely that.

As to relaunching the past year’s populism project for 2020, that’s a pipe dream if Democrats win it all by default. Full progressive government control, including a compliant Supreme Court, will impose so many political constraints, notably on fundraising, that the populists will have to head into the woods with the Bundy family.

Let Trump be Trump. Enjoy the ride. But Republican and independent voters have to figure out where the limits lie. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 13th, 2016 at 3:42pm
You stick your head above the crowd and attract attention and sometimes somebody will throw a rock at you. That's the territory. You buy the land, you get the Indians.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 13th, 2016 at 3:47pm
He who knows how will always work for he who knows why.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 13th, 2016 at 4:20pm
I happen to know the father of a former Miss Louisiana USA.
She was contacted today by the Huffington Post to ask if she witnessed any harassment.

Dems are desperate, ya'll.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:17pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
He who knows how will always work for he who knows why.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAXfASsqGI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
I happen to know the father of a former Miss Louisiana USA.
She was contacted today by the Huffington Post to ask if she witnessed any harassment.

Dems are desperate, ya'll.



Dems are desperate? Haha, are you serious? The Republican Party is that little turd that refuses to flush. It just circles the bowl being the pathetic little turd that it is.

When is a Riffy gonna make his return? Political threads are a China shop and Riffy is the bull.  Maybe Bucky can get those guys on the horn, rally the troops.

:smilebrian :wow :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm

leonid wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
I happen to know the father of a former Miss Louisiana USA.
She was contacted today by the Huffington Post to ask if she witnessed any harassment.

Dems are desperate, ya'll.



Dems are desperate? Haha, are you serious? The Republican Party is that little turd that refuses to flush. It just circles the bowl being the pathetic little turd that it is.

When is a Riffy gonna make his return? Political threads are a China shop and Riffy is the bull.  Maybe Bucky can get those guys on the horn, rally the troops.

:smilebrian :wow :pullanolte




**************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *****************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:51pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 6:30am:
Joey, even your A game can't save this thread.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ex703HAh4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm

Joey wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
**************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *****************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K



The vultures are circling your posts Joey. Go towards the light.

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:59pm

leonid wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
**************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *****************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K



The vultures are circling your posts Joey. Go towards the light.

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7QwoFaVlyw&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K&index=2

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 13th, 2016 at 10:09pm

leonid wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
**************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *****************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K



The vultures are circling your posts Joey. Go towards the light.

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey




Ode to the Next President of these United States  :  Donald J. Trump  !!!!!!!!!!!






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFBPxVzBhNo

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am
This ain't bringing moonie back.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 14th, 2016 at 3:06pm
12 ways to tell the presidential debate from the Stones concert


By MIKE WEATHERFORD
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
On Wednesday, it won’t be enough to tell Siri, “Take me to the old people with weird hair.”

That’s because the final presidential debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton and the first of two Rolling Stones concerts will be in two Las Vegas arenas on the same night, not quite three miles apart along Tropicana Avenue.

To make matters more confusing, Trump has continually used Stones songs such as “Start Me Up” and “Brown Sugar” at campaign events, prompting the band to protest.

To ease the fears of you accidentally walking into the wrong event — the Stones at T-Mobile Arena or the debate at the Thomas & Mack Center, here are a dozen ways to tell the two apart.


1. Hillary Clinton’s blazers will have slightly fuller shoulder pads than Mick Jagger’s.

2. The Stones give you reasons to have “Sympathy for the Devil.” Donald Trump calls Clinton the devil, and doesn’t seem the least bit sympathetic about wanting to put her in jail.

3. Stones: “We gonna come around at 12 with some Puerto Rican girls that are just dyin’ to meet you!”

Trump: “I love Hispanics!”

4: Stones: “You can start me up … If you like it you can slide it up … My hands are greasy, She’s a mean, mean machine.” Trump: “But this is locker room talk.”

5. Clinton says she will raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year “because I think we’ve got to go where the money is.”

The seating sections at the Stones concert where tickets cost $750? Where the money is.

6. Jagger’s current girlfriend is a ballerina. Trump’s current wife was a model. Jagger’s longtime girlfriend, Jerry Hall, was a model. So was Trump’s first wife, Ivana. Melania Trump is 17 years older than Jagger girlfriend Melanie Hamrick, even though Jagger is three years older than Trump.

OK, maybe this one only makes it harder to tell the two apart.


7. Keith Richards has survived heroin addiction and a fall from a tree. Hillary has survived Bill.

8. Jagger’s puffed-out lips make funny shapes when he struts with his hand on his hip and says “Gimme, gimme, gimme, the honky tonk blues.” Trump’s puffed-out lips make funny shapes when he stalks Hillary with his arms folded and says “Wrong. Wrong.”

9. Charlie Watts has a bemused smile, as though he is a detached spectator watching Jagger and Richards cavort around the stage. Hillary tries for the same while Trump is talking, but can’t hold it frozen for even half a song.

10. Trump alleges the deal with Iran involves “$1.7 billion in cash, which is enough cash to fill up this room.” The Stones won’t be able to fill a room with that much cash until the end of the tour.

11. Trump and Clinton consistently poll as the least popular presidential candidates ever. The Stones probably won’t play anything from the unpopular albums “Dirty Work” or “A Bigger Bang.” But even if they do, don’t bother telling the T-Mobile audience to hold its applause until the end.

12. The Stones are guaranteed to sing “You Can’t Always Get What You Want.” A month from now, only one of the debate candidates will.

Read more from Mike Weatherford at reviewjournal.com. Contact him at mweatherford@reviewjournal.com and follow @Mikeweatherford on Twitter.


http://www.reviewjournal.com/neon/sounds/12-ways-tell-the-presidential-debate-the-stones-concert

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 14th, 2016 at 6:34pm
The problem with self-improvement is knowing when to quit.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 14th, 2016 at 10:49pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am:
This ain't bringing moonie back.

And on that note we have accomplished a great deed.  :warhorse :solongsucker

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 15th, 2016 at 8:46am

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am:
This ain't bringing moonie back.

And on that note we have accomplished a great deed.  :warhorse :solongsucker


he really tied the room together.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 15th, 2016 at 6:18pm
This really should be Trump's theme song................Yeah, I heard about you Polaroid's
Now that's what I call obscene.  :perverted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1zgmM2lalo

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Oct 15th, 2016 at 9:11pm
_

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 16th, 2016 at 10:42am
     " But MacArthur is undaunted , rising from his seat in the front row as the plane comes to a halt . He places his field marshal cap on his head and lights his corncob pipe , then moves to the back door of the plane . He does not take threats lightly , but his visits to Japan earlier in life schooled him in the ways of the Orient . Showing fear , or even the smallest sign of panic , will make MacArthur appear weak in the eyes of the Japanese . He has christened this aircraft Bataan , in defiant memory of the thousands of American and British soldiers slaughtered by the Japanese after the Philippines fell in 1942 .
     MacArthur knows that the small group of American soldiers who arrived here yesterday and now stand ready to defend him would be powerless against the thirty thousand armed Japanese troops who would have been ordered by their commanders to line the fifteen - mile route into Yokohama . These soldiers are armed with rifles and bayonets , but in a show of respect normally reserved only for the emperor , they do not feel themselves worthy of gazing directly upon MacArthur . Thus , they stand at attention with their backs to the road .
     A blast of humid summer heat washes over MacArthur as he steps down the ramp . Spying the photographers , he does what he always does  -- vamps .  The general dons his aviator sunglasses , draws on his pipe , and juts his chin forward . The band begins to play  . It is just as MacArthur anticipated .
     As long as there is a Japan , this moment will never be forgotten .  "








Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 16th, 2016 at 3:50pm
Joey ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 17th, 2016 at 8:53pm

leonid wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:54pm:

Joey wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
**************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *****************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdfPtW56fo&list=PLAAvsfRbTjF_zfGv-oOA7HVWvF9FsnI1K



The vultures are circling your posts Joey. Go towards the light.

:Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 17th, 2016 at 8:55pm


************  {  " IT IS COMING !!!!!!!  "   }   *******************






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 17th, 2016 at 9:36pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am:
This ain't bringing moonie back.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 17th, 2016 at 9:45pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 6:30am:
Joey, even your A game can't save this thread.





http://vegasseven.com/files/2016/10/rolling_stones_vs_debate_HOMEPAGE-1170x500.jpg?4f25cd





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 17th, 2016 at 10:01pm



" I LOVE YOU ALL  !!!!!!   "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:00pm
Who's gonna make more noise in Vegas tomorrow ?

Stones or:



https://youtu.be/R8Wde1fFvPg?list=RDR8Wde1fFvPg



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6mRZE5rPDM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 18th, 2016 at 7:19pm

Joey wrote on Oct 17th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 12th, 2016 at 6:30am:
Joey, even your A game can't save this thread.





http://vegasseven.com/files/2016/10/rolling_stones_vs_debate_HOMEPAGE-1170x500.jpg?4f25cd

Joey has an A game?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:14pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am:
This ain't bringing moonie back.



************   {  " SIGH !!!! "  }  *************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpD4YezpmW8

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:26pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 6:34pm:
The problem with self-improvement is knowing when to quit.







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:41pm



<  -------------     **********  {  " THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY !!!!!!  "   }  **********











" Thank You Vladimir   ---  Ronnie Cakes !!!!!  "


Czar Joey ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 19th, 2016 at 2:34pm

Joey wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
<  -------------     **********  {  " THREE WEEKS FROM TODAY !!!!!!  "   }  **********











" Thank You Vladimir   ---  Ronnie Cakes !!!!!  "


Czar Joey ™

You've got that backwards. But you know that, don't you Joey?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 19th, 2016 at 9:13pm



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3WyQoXumRg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:07pm




<  ----------- Some Guy  ......... ?!  .... !!!!!! :




http://www.wsj.com/articles/dumb-and-dumber-1476917265



" Dumb and Dumber  "


" This is what’s going to happen to U.S. education if Hillary Clinton wins.   "



By DANIEL HENNINGER





" It’s time to send the sniffer dogs into the rubble of America’s 2016 presidential election to see if there’s anything worth saving. We’ve learned some important things. We have learned that at the lower end of the income scale, the white vote is broken, or more accurately, brokenhearted. Many middle-class white voters are angry over a system they say has failed them.

They aren’t the only ones. America’s inner cities, its poorest neighborhoods, are increasingly on edge. One of these days, they could blow on the scale of the 1960s.

Much of this has to do with dismal job prospects, and better growth is part of the answer. But there’s a bigger problem than growth—the diminished state of American education.

Without an education upgrade that matches learning skills with modern jobs, all these people will still lose ground, and personal behavior will continue to degrade.


No better source of information exists on this than employers, especially manufacturers, who say U.S. schools, notwithstanding claims of improved “graduation” rates, are not producing sufficient numbers of workers able to perform at the level they need for the realities of the 21st century workplace. Apparently the universal skill of being able to manipulate a cellphone to take a selfie isn’t enough.

During a September visit to a charter school in a black neighborhood on Cleveland’s east side, Donald Trump said, “I will be the nation’s biggest cheerleader for school choice,” and an advocate for merit pay “so that we reward our best teachers instead of the failed tenure system that rewards bad teachers and punishes the good ones.”

He at least will say publicly that the U.S. public education system just doesn’t work anymore for too many people.

The natural A-students will be fine. This reality allows many smart people to stop thinking about the country’s most socially destructive problem. But for many others, elementary and secondary school is a drag on lifetime achievement. What the cry from the Trumpian heartland has revealed is that many rural schools also offer the same futureless education as inner-city schools.

These people aren’t irredeemably stupid. Their schools are stupid. Fix the schools and half of America’s myriad problems are solvable.

A new element is the descent of U.S. colleges and universities into PC hell. A basic mission, to prepare students for the new workplace, is being rechanneled into wheel-spinning controversies, such as “hurtful” speech or names on buildings. A Clinton win will empower this insanity.

Some of these institutions of higher learning actually brag about the remedial-education programs they offer first-year students who were waved through 12 years of inadequate public schooling. By 18, it’s too late. They will never catch up.

Take your schools pick: Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. It’s no choice, because the proposed education policies of Hillary Clinton (Wellesley, Yale) are, incredibly, a step back from the baby steps Barack Obama managed.

The National Education Association has spent $14 million so far to elect Hillary. The chances that a President Clinton would buck this industrial-age teachers union, whose raison d’être is killing teacher accountability, are zero. Her web site extols pouring more federal money down the public-schools mine shaft.

The proven alternative is charter schools run by innovative educators or voucher-supported schools run by churches—if they can survive. Talk to a charter-school leader like Eva Moskowitz in New York and she will tell you how they use squads of pro-bono, white-shoe lawyers to fight off nonstop litigation by the teachers unions hitting the streets for Hillary Clinton.

The school-choice movement gets everything thrown at it, such as the 19th-century, anti-Catholic Blaine Amendments in 38 states that thwart support for poor kids attending parochial schools. The Podesta-Palmieri-Halpin emails make clear this hoary religious bias thrives in the post-Obama Democratic Party.

Back in his teleprompter-speech days, Donald Trump appealed to black and Hispanic audiences. Many inner-city black Americans know Mr. Obama didn’t do as much as they expected for their kids’ education. In fact, he spent his entire presidency trying to defund the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship program.

That President Obama’s daughters went to private Sidwell Friends in D.C. encapsulates this entire issue. It’s not just Mr. Obama constantly self-referencing about how “folks like me” can substitute a Sidwell for public-school chaos. Most “folks like me” aren’t in charge of the federal government, which has the authority to change the status quo. Instead, Eric Holder’s Justice Department filed a lawsuit against Louisiana’s successful voucher program for poor children.

The moral catastrophe of the schools is one of the issues that lets people pretend to themselves “it will get better” if Hillary wins. It won’t. After she wins, this problem will remain—lack of learned skills, lack of hope, an economy separating them from people like her smug campaign workers. One thing is certain: The anger will grow.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 20th, 2016 at 9:42pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 14th, 2016 at 5:28am:
This ain't bringing moonie back.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McE_fULSpHY

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55am
If Keith what's his name said your candidate sucked beans, would you think any less of Keith, Trump, or nurse Ratchet (or anyone else)?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 21st, 2016 at 5:11pm
Hillary ?


http://youtu.be/y0xtvNF4Ihk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 1:38am
Trump's campaign song: "I saw Hillary at the reception. In her glass was a bleeding man. She was practiced at the arts of deception. I could tell by her bloodstained hands!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 5:37am
Do as I say, not as I do !


https://youtu.be/0UeyBuqWSME

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:48am
This thread just ain't got it. It is mired in mediocrity. Other Stones boards are looking down their noses at us.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am

Some Guy wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:48am:
This thread just ain't got it. It is mired in mediocrity. Other Stones boards are looking down their noses at us.


We are the quintessential Stones board. All others pale in comparison.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:09am

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:48am:
This thread just ain't got it. It is mired in mediocrity. Other Stones boards are looking down their noses at us.


We are the quintessential Stones board. All others pale in comparison.






http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/LadyJane1/14713758_1842717499273972_971775792489645096_n.jpg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Boogie Chillun in Wonderland on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 12:43pm

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am:
We are the quintessential Stones board. All others pale in comparison.


:smilebrian :perverted :smoking :pullanolte :paristhong :charlieperv :nicetits :smilemick :smilestu

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:48am:
This thread just ain't got it. It is mired in mediocrity. Other Stones boards are looking down their noses at us.


We are the quintessential Stones board. All others pale in comparison.

All others are smart enough to avoid politics. The only smart thing BV ever did.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:02pm
This is painful. I started this thread to bring Riffy back, and all it has served to do is boost Joey's post count. Even worse, Joey has shifted allegiances to the Republican party for some reason. Has he been communicating with Max via the back channel?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:58pm
Riffy's gone. So, please enjoy this Bon Jovi atrocity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMwcO6_hyA



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 8:03am

Starbuck wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:02pm:
This is painful. I started this thread to bring Riffy back, and all it has served to do is boost Joey's post count. Even worse, Joey has shifted allegiances to the Republican party for some reason. Has he been communicating with Max via the back channel?



<  -------------- Longtime Young Liberal Democrat Joey did not leave the Democratic Party  ---- it has left the Young One .





" Eight Consecutive YEARS of Zero to Two Percent Growth will do that  ....   Ronnie   !!!  "


Joey Reagan ! ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Oct 24th, 2016 at 11:23am
Donald Chump has no chance....stone cold lock of the year!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:44pm

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 11:23am:
Donald Chump has no chance....stone cold lock of the year!





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 1:21pm

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 9:43am:

Some Guy wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:48am:
This thread just ain't got it. It is mired in mediocrity. Other Stones boards are looking down their noses at us.


We are the quintessential Stones board. All others pale in comparison.




" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!  "


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/LadyJane1/14729188_10154680753368656_5876218645727739642_n.jpg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:15pm

Starbuck wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:02pm:
This is painful. I started this thread to bring Riffy back, and all it has served to do is boost Joey's post count. Even worse, Joey has shifted allegiances to the Republican party for some reason. Has he been communicating with Max via the back channel?

Joey uses the backdoor channel. That's where he sees Riffy's growth.  :kissmyass

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:16pm

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 11:23am:
Donald Chump has no chance....stone cold lock of the year!

Take Hillary, give 4 points. Stone Cold Lock of the year!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:04pm

Starbuck wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 10:02pm:
This is painful. I started this thread to bring Riffy back, and all it has served to do is boost Joey's post count. Even worse, Joey has shifted allegiances to the Republican party for some reason. Has he been communicating with Max via the back channel?


*testing... testing... is this thing on?*


Did somebody say "back channel"?


Riffy has relocated to Maxlugar and Feej's cottage getaway in Canada. Where men can be men.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 9:04pm



<   ----- It is Coming !!!!!!


!!!!



**********************************





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 9:16pm

a.completeunknown wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55am:
If Keith what's his name said your candidate sucked beans, would you think any less of Keith, Trump, or nurse Ratchet (or anyone else)?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAXfASsqGI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 24th, 2016 at 9:34pm

a.completeunknown wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 1:38am:
Trump's campaign song: "I saw Hillary at the reception. In her glass was a bleeding man. She was practiced at the arts of deception. I could tell by her bloodstained hands!





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 24th, 2016 at 10:29pm

Joey wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
.....at the Brazen Head last evening !!!!!

Jm J. Bullock that is ...... I have said it before time and time again , but MAN can that guy friggin party !!!!

I mean , there we all were , the whole crew -- on the back patio by the Robert Mapplethorpe photos, listening to " Liza Minnelli Live at Fire Island" when all of a sudden Jm comes through the open door carring a tray full of Percocet and condoms --- one for EACH of us . Nice .

Did I ever tell you that Jm is a wonderful ' Bug Chaser ' with 8 inches "cut"?! .... No ?! ... Well , it certainly makes for some fine enjoyable drinking let me tell ya ........

Jm wanted me to tell everyone at Rocks Off " Hi " and that he is ' confident ' of the Rolling Stones returning to the states next summer ( Jm knows / sees all so he word is GOLD ) .


Ooops ... I am still pooping out last evening's DNA!


Gotta go ............... literally :

********* END TRANSMISSION *************


Well Joey,

That's a hell of a story

:aimama

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 8:12am

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/david-stockman-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-eocnomic-calamity/2016/10/24/id/755115/


This makes Young Joey scared  :




" “The national debt was $10.6 trillion when Obama was sworn in, it will be $20 trillion when the next president takes office. That means in the last eight years, we have added to the national debt as much as during the first 220 years of the republic. During the first 43 presidents,” he said.  "


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:02am

Joey wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 8:12am:
http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/david-stockman-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-eocnomic-calamity/2016/10/24/id/755115/


This makes Young Joey scared  :




" “The national debt was $10.6 trillion when Obama was sworn in, it will be $20 trillion when the next president takes office. That means in the last eight years, we have added to the national debt as much as during the first 220 years of the republic. During the first 43 presidents,” he said.  "


yet it is the Congress (GOP) that controls spending,,, so plenty of blame to spread around

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:26am


gimmekeef  ......


Private Rolling Stones Concert tonight in Boston :

http://patch.com/massachusetts/foxborough/report-rolling-stones-are-playing-private-show-gillette-stadium



" Report: Rolling Stones Are Playing Private Show at Gillette Stadium
Reports say that Bob Kraft is holding a party inside the Optum Field Lounge featuring the legendary rock band.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Oct 25th, 2016 at 10:18am

Joey wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:26am:
gimmekeef  ......


Private Rolling Stones Concert tonight in Boston :

http://patch.com/massachusetts/foxborough/report-rolling-stones-are-playing-private-show-gillette-stadium



" Report: Rolling Stones Are Playing Private Show at Gillette Stadium
Reports say that Bob Kraft is holding a party inside the Optum Field Lounge featuring the legendary rock band.  "


The thought of Tom Brady seeing my band is too much to bare young Joey!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 10:53am

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 10:18am:

Joey wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:26am:
gimmekeef  ......


Private Rolling Stones Concert tonight in Boston :

http://patch.com/massachusetts/foxborough/report-rolling-stones-are-playing-private-show-gillette-stadium



" Report: Rolling Stones Are Playing Private Show at Gillette Stadium
Reports say that Bob Kraft is holding a party inside the Optum Field Lounge featuring the legendary rock band.  "


The thought of Tom Brady seeing my band is too much to bare young Joey!




FUNNY !!!!!!!   :)



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/LadyJane1/14641916_1842717449273977_1504166589717559840_n.jpg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:09pm

leonid wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:06pm:



**********************************************






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McE_fULSpHY

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:19pm

a.completeunknown wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55am:
If Keith what's his name said your candidate sucked beans, would you think any less of Keith, Trump, or nurse Ratchet (or anyone else)?



********************************



" BEST STONES YET !!!!!   "     .........    " UNBELIEVABLE STONES !!!!!!!   "


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Seriously ,  every single White Male I know is trying to keep the peace at home by telling their wives and / or girlfriends the following   ,  " Of course honey  ...... I will vote for Hillary  . "

But when that curtain is drawn in the voting booth  .... the TRUTH will come forth like the sirens up on the rocks  .



" Hit Me Ronnie !!!!!   ......    Eight Consecutive Years of Zero to Two Percent Growth will DO that Ronnie Cakes !!!!   "


Joey " November , 1980  " Reagan ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:32pm
Enjoy !!!!!   :




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:55pm
Joey, you are the Carrot Top of Rocks Off.

:kissmyass

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 25th, 2016 at 10:12pm
Hilary Clinton got serenaded by mariachis on El Gordo y la Flaca show of Univision.  (It's not in this clip though.)  She also danced salsa with el Gordo de Molina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4pSO_n7mUk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Oct 25th, 2016 at 10:29pm
You can enjoy more clips of Hilary Clinton's visit to El Gordo y la Flaca show, here: 

http://www.univision.com/shows/el-gordo-y-la-flaca


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 26th, 2016 at 8:23am

leonid wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:55pm:
Joey, you are the Carrot Top of Rocks Off.

:kissmyass







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 26th, 2016 at 4:11pm

leonid wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 9:55pm:
Joey, you are the Carrot Top of Rocks Off.

:kissmyass

Don't insult Carrot Top like that.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 26th, 2016 at 9:18pm



http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/LadyJane1/14666201_1790281184576035_7319283977999069423_n.jpg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 26th, 2016 at 9:44pm


<     ------   " I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!!   " 




*******{    "  IT IS COMING !!!!!!  "    }  *********














"  Once KGB   ...... ALWAYS KGB    ... Nobody ,  .........  NOBODY  leaves the KGB !!!!!       ........     and they do NOT know the meaning of the word  ..................     " MERCY "    , Ronnie Cakes !!!!   "



LBJoeykins ™ ©  ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 26th, 2016 at 9:52pm




<      ---------    Please Enjoy !!!!!





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKyBt6b2IUU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 27th, 2016 at 9:33pm




<  -------------- Some Guy   .... ?!  ... !!!!!   :


http://www.wsj.com/articles/grifters-in-chief-1477610771


" Grifters-in-Chief "


" The Clintons don’t draw lines between their ‘charity’ and personal enrichment.  "




By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL


" In an election season that has been full of surprises, let’s hope the electorate understands that there is at least one thing of which it can be certain: A Hillary Clinton presidency will be built, from the ground up, on self-dealing, crony favors, and an utter disregard for the law.

This isn’t a guess. It is spelled out, in black and white, in the latest bombshell revelation from WikiLeaks. It comes in the form of a memo written in 2011 by longtime Clinton errand boy Doug Band, who for years worked simultaneously at the Clinton Foundation and at the head of his lucrative consulting business, Teneo.

It is astonishingly detailed proof that the Clintons do not draw any lines between their “charitable” work, their political activity, their government jobs or (and most important) their personal enrichment. Every other American is expected to keep these pursuits separate, as required by tax law, anticorruption law and campaign-finance law. For the Clintons, it is all one and the same—the rules be damned.

The memo came near the end of a 2011 review by law firm Simpson Thacher & Bartlett into Clinton Foundation practices. Chelsea Clinton had grown concerned about the audacious mixing of public and private, and the review was designed to ensure that the foundation didn’t lose its charitable tax status. Mr. Band, Teneo boss and epicenter of what he calls “ Bill Clinton, Inc.,” clearly felt under assault and was eager to brag up the ways in which his business had concurrently benefited the foundation, Clinton political causes and the Clinton bank account. The memoed result is a remarkably candid look at the sleazy inner workings of the Clinton grifters-in-chief.

The cross-pollination is flagrant, and Mr. Band gives example after example of how it works. He and his partner Declan Kelly (a Hillary Clinton fundraiser whom Mrs. Clinton rewarded by making him the State Department’s special envoy to Northern Ireland) buttered up their clients with special visits to Bill’s home and tête-à-tête golf rounds with the former president. They then “cultivated” these marks ( Coca-Cola, Dow Chemical, UBS) for foundation dollars, and then again for high-dollar Bill Clinton speeches and other business payouts.

Teneo’s incestuous behavior also included Mrs. Clinton’s State Department. The Band memo boasts that Mr. Kelly (while he was Mrs. Clinton’s State envoy) introduced the then-head of UBS Wealth Management, Bob McCann, to Bill Clinton at an American Ireland Fund event in 2009. “Mr. Kelly subsequently asked Mr. Mccann [sic] to support the Foundation, which he did . . . Mr. Kelly also encouraged Mr. Mccann [sic] to invite President Clinton to give several paid speeches, which he has done,” reads Mr. Band’s memo. UBS ultimately paid Bill $2 million.


American Ireland Fund meanwhile became a Teneo client, and made Mr. Kelly (of former State envoy fame) a trustee, where he “ensured that the AIF is a significant donor to the Foundation.” AIF then bestowed upon Mrs. Clinton a major award on her final trip to Northern Ireland in 2012, in an event partly sponsored by . . . Teneo.

Not that this is all one way. Mr. Band let slip just how useful all these arrangements were for Teneo, too, when he backhandedly apologized in the memo for hosting 15 client meetings in a hotel room rented by the Clinton Global Initiative.

The memo removes any doubt that the foundation is little more than an unregistered super PAC working on the Clintons’ behalf. Donors to the charity are simultaneously tapped to give Bill speech requests and other business arrangements, including the $3.5 million he was paid annually to serve as “honorary chairman” of Laureate International Universities. Mr. Band’s memo also notes his success at getting donors to “support candidates running for office that President Clinton was supporting.”

It’s now 2016 and Bill’s most favorite candidate is running for the presidency. There’s no question foundation donors are being “leveraged” for Mrs. Clinton.

Mr. Band wants credit in the memo for prodding existing foundation donors to pony up more money, though the donation statistics he provides paint a different picture. By and large, donations to the foundation begin to spike dramatically in 2009 and 2010. Mr. Band didn’t form Teneo until 2011. What was happening in 2009? Mrs. Clinton was sworn in as one of the most powerful politicians on the planet.

The obvious question is where are the prosecutors? (For that matter, where is Lois Lerner when you need her?) Any nonprofit lawyer in America knows the ironclad rule of keeping private enrichment away from tax-exempt activity, for the simple reason that mixing the two involves ripping off taxpayers. Every election lawyer in the country lives in fear of stepping over the lines governing fundraising and election vehicles. The Clintons recognize no lines.

Here’s the lasting takeaway: The Clintons spent their White House years explaining endless sleazy financial deals, and even capping their exit with a scandal over whether Bill was paid to pardon financier Marc Rich. They know the risks. And yet they geared up the foundation and these seedy practices even as Mrs. Clinton was making her first bid for the presidency. They continued them as she sat as secretary of state. They continue them still, as she nears the White House.

This is how the Clintons operate. They don’t change. Any one who pulls the lever for Mrs. Clinton takes responsibility for setting up the nation for all the blatant corruption that will follow.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:18pm
Riffy sends his love and this teaser:

"Sorry folks but anyone that thinks Hillary is winning this shit show is out of their minds! What a screeching harpy! Lying corruptocrat from the word go!"

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Oct 28th, 2016 at 1:09am

Starbuck wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Riffy sends his love and this teaser:

"Sorry folks but anyone that thinks Hillary is winning this shit show is out of their minds! What a screeching harpy! Lying corruptocrat from the word go!"


But Riffy said the same thing about Barry Obama! Remember?

Riffy gonna blow a gasket when Hilldawg wins. Does he have any more gaskets to blow? Somebody needs to go and find Tele so we can get his take on things.
:nooslajaleisk :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Oct 28th, 2016 at 12:59pm
Riffy sends kisses, a tantric massage and these kind words:

"I remember back in the halcyon days when it was "the seriousness of the charges that mattered" not the way the charges were leaked. If this leak had involved any Republican The Hill and every other fraudulent Democrat cheerleading media source would be all over it. The Hill? Nope. They use the very damning leaks to try and tear down Trump! You can't make it up. In the not-too-distant future generations will look back on these days and scoff at the abject corruption of the in-the-tank media.
So we find that Hill and Bill made upwards of 100 million by shaking down world leaders, company executives, and moneyed investors and how does The Hill, and other Team Clinton media surrogates cover the story? By laying blame at the feet of Trump and trying to tie him to Putin. Even Chelsea Clinton was floored by the blatant corruption of her grifter parents! Yet The Hill deems all this corruption as much ado about nothing. Pathetic! These hacks are becoming more irrelevant with each passing news cycle!"

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/302858-the-media-is-rigging-the-election-by-reporting-wikileaks-emails

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 28th, 2016 at 2:07pm



<  ------------   ************   {   " I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!  "    }   *************










http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/28/fbi-reopens-investigation-into-clinton-email-use.html




" Once KGB   ........ ALWAYS KGB Ronnie Cakes !!!!!   " 



'kins ® ™ ©

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Oct 28th, 2016 at 2:38pm
Joey, Riffy also passes along that you're ghey as sin.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 28th, 2016 at 7:07pm

Starbuck wrote on Oct 28th, 2016 at 2:38pm:
Joey, Riffy also passes along that you're ghey as sin.

Riffy doesn't have any more gaskets to blow...................Unless he blows Joey.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 29th, 2016 at 8:23am
Joey ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:36am

Starbuck wrote on Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Riffy sends his love and this teaser:

"Sorry folks but anyone that thinks Hillary is winning this shit show is out of their minds! What a screeching harpy! Lying corruptocrat from the word go!"








Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Oct 29th, 2016 at 3:24pm
Joey,

You better get you a snow suit and some snow loving dogs.   


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Oct 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm

Factory Girl wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 3:24pm:
Joey,

You better get you a snow suit and some snow loving dogs.   

Or some knee pads.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 9:37am
Salaries for Personal Secretaries for the U.S.A. President's wives



Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary from her husband's salary.

Total Personal Staff members for other first ladies paid by taxpayers:

Mamie  Eisenhower:--- One-- paid for personally out of President's  salary.

Total number of  Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers.

Jackie Kennedy:  -------One

Lady Bird  Johnson-----One

Pat Nixon  ----------------One

Betty  Ford----------------One

Rosaline Carter: --------One

Barbara Bush:  ----------One

Hilary Clinton:  ----------Seven

Laura Bush: --------------One

Michele Obama: --------Twenty-two

Michele Obama's personal  staff:
One.. $192,200 - Sher, Susan  (Chief Of Staff)


Two.. $160,000 -  Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects For The First  Lady)


Three..$133,000 - Rogers,  Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary for Mrs. Obama)


Four.. $122,000 - Johnston,  Camille Y. (Director of Communications for the First Lady)


Five.. $120,000 - Winter,  Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)


Six.... $110,000 Medina , David S.  (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)


Seven.. $104,000 - Lilyveld,  Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First  Lady)


Eight.. $95,000 - Starkey,  Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First  Lady)


Nine.. $90,000 - Sanders,  Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Project for the First  Lady)


Ten.. $85,000 - Burnough, Erinn  (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)


Eleven.. $84,000 - Reinstein,  Joseph B.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)


Twelve.. $82,000 - Goodman,  Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For  The First Lady)


Thirteen.. $80,000 Fitz, Alan  O.(Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First  Lady)


Fourteen.. $77,500 - Lewis, Dana  M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)


Fifteen.. $72,500 - Mustaphi,  Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First  Lady)


Sixteen.. $70,000 - Jarvis,  Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The  First Lady)


Seventeen.. $65,000 -  Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The  First Lady)


Eighteen.. $63,000 - Tubman,  Samantha a (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)


Nineteen.. $60,000 - Boswell,  Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First  Lady)


Twenty.. $56,000 - Armbruster,  Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)


Twenty-One.. $55,000 - Bookey,  Natalie (Staff Assistant)


Twenty-Two.. $55,000 - Jackson,  Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First  Lady)

Total $2,075,200 in annual  salaries

There has NEVER been anyone in  the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers  whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social  life.

This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and  "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard  Air Force One on all ALL Trips, Europe included.

As of 11/15.2015 the Obama  Family has spent over 1.3 Billion dollars on personal family trips. 
They were personal not political or Government related.


Copyright Canada Free  Press:
Yes. The Canadian Free Press  had to publish this, perhaps because America no longer has a free  press and the USA media is too scared that they might be considered  racist or suffer at the hands of Obama if any of them published  this.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:07am
SCL ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:09am
moonie ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:10am
Some Guy ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:11am
leonid ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 10:12am
Voodoo ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:11pm



Man 'fed up' with Dems says he dumped manure at Ohio Democratic HQ


by Eric Schwartzberg, Hamilton Journal-News

WARREN COUNTY, Ohio --

A 47-year-old Ohio man is facing a misdemeanor charge after he dumped a truckload of manure at Warren County Democratic Headquarters, police said.

James R. Pinell, of Lebanon, was charged with one count of criminal mischief, a third-degree misdemeanor. He is scheduled to appear in Lebanon Municipal Court for arraignment on Thursday.

Asked about his actions, Pinell told the Hamilton Journal-News that he is "fed up with Democratic party" and dumped the manure this weekend as a retaliation "for all the garbage they've been putting out on us."

"I think what they've done, more or less, to the country by having partial-birth abortions and just … the emails and everything, I just feel like half the country, we've just had enough of it," he said. "I just reached … spoke out."

Pinell said this isn't the first time he's carried out such an act. He said "back then," the first time he dumped the manure at party headquarters, was because of "Obamacare" and abortion.

Manure was dumped in 2012 outside the building at 1975 U.S. Route 42., but this time, the building had a security camera that recorded the dumping of the mountain of manure just after midnight on Saturday.

Bethe Goldenfield, chairwoman of the Warren County Democratic Party, called the incident "a minor inconvenience."

"Yes, it's a distraction, maybe and … a disappointment, but the tenor of this campaign cycle, even though it happened before, it's even more heightened," Goldenfield said. "To me it's just a minor blip on the radar and keeps us focused and maybe even work a little bit harder to educate our voters and show that it's important for them to come out and vote.

"We're focused on mining every voter that we can and get them to the polls and get them to vote for Hillary Clinton and the other candidates down the ballot."
Goldenfield said the county's Democratic party is not discouraged and remains "pretty resilient."

"I mean, we are a 30-70 county with a very strong Republican presence and one-party rule, so we're used to a little bit of adversity," she said.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:11pm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/10/31/clinton_owns_it_all_132205.html

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Riffhard on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:28pm
So how's everyone doing? Me? Oh, I'm fine thanks. Shall I dish out the crow pie or do you peeps want to serve yourself? Bawhahahahaha!


Riffy

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:44pm

Riffhard wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:28pm:
So how's everyone doing? Me? Oh, I'm fine thanks. Shall I dish out the crow pie or do you peeps want to serve yourself? Bawhahahahaha!


Riffy


got my popcorn ready.

Riffy, at my command unleash hell!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:56pm

Riffhard wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:28pm:
So how's everyone doing? Me? Oh, I'm fine thanks. Shall I dish out the crow pie or do you peeps want to serve yourself? Bawhahahahaha!


Riffy


I'll help serve.  :smilestu

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 31st, 2016 at 4:01pm
fixin' to shred some drone ass...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Riffhard on Oct 31st, 2016 at 4:06pm
And now they hate Comey. Imagine my shock. Let's run through this. FBI Director James Comey begs out of recommending prosecution in July. Most likely because he had a tiger by the tail and didn't want it to devour himself or the agency. So he put the case aside. Dems cheered and hailed him as an honest broker. Thing is though, he never dropped the investigation. Fast forward to September and some senior agents investigating the pervert Anthony Weiner for sexting a 15 years old North Carolina girl stumble upon a laptop that both the perv and his former wife, Huma Abedin, Clinton's right hand woman/"second daughter", had shared. Somehow over 650,000 emails heretofore unknown to the FBI are found. A search via metadata inside this laptop showed that thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of these emails were to or from Hillary's home brewed server. This implicates both Abedin and Hillary herself. At the absolute very least both are possibly guilty of contempt. Both contempt of Congress and contempt of the FBI. Big big big deal! What was Comey supposed to do? Allow a Constitutional crisis by just keeping quite or should he have let congress know that a massive treasure trove has been found and it could change the whole direction of the investigation? It could, and probably will, lead to several arrests. The real irony of the whole thing? Hillary is the one who introduced Huma to Weiner! LOL! You can't make it up. She's done folks. I just wonder how anyone could ever defend voting for her. Hating Trump is one thing, but supporting a woman that has lied throughout the entirety of her political life is quite another. The Democrats had to know how despicable this woman is and yet they still made sure to destroy Bernie Sander's bid to clear a path for her to win the nomination. I can't wait until this movie comes out!


Riffy

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Oct 31st, 2016 at 5:57pm
you had me at And.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 31st, 2016 at 9:22pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 5:57pm:
you had me at And.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuzTqCy15RA

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Oct 31st, 2016 at 9:30pm



"  ...........  at my command unleash hell! "





************************************************







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by polytoxic on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:55am

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 9:37am:
Salaries for Personal Secretaries for the U.S.A. President's wives



Mamie Eisenhower had to shell out the salary for her personal secretary from her husband's salary.

Total Personal Staff members for other first ladies paid by taxpayers:

Mamie  Eisenhower:--- One-- paid for personally out of President's  salary.

Total number of  Personal Staff Members paid by Tax Payers.

Jackie Kennedy:  -------One

Lady Bird  Johnson-----One

Pat Nixon  ----------------One

Betty  Ford----------------One

Rosaline Carter: --------One

Barbara Bush:  ----------One

Hilary Clinton:  ----------Seven

Laura Bush: --------------One

Michele Obama: --------Twenty-two

Michele Obama's personal  staff:
One.. $192,200 - Sher, Susan  (Chief Of Staff)


Two.. $160,000 -  Frye, Jocelyn C. (Director of Policy And Projects For The First  Lady)


Three..$133,000 - Rogers,  Desiree G. (White House Social Secretary for Mrs. Obama)


Four.. $122,000 - Johnston,  Camille Y. (Director of Communications for the First Lady)


Five.. $120,000 - Winter,  Melissa (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)


Six.... $110,000 Medina , David S.  (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)


Seven.. $104,000 - Lilyveld,  Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First  Lady)


Eight.. $95,000 - Starkey,  Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First  Lady)


Nine.. $90,000 - Sanders,  Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Project for the First  Lady)


Ten.. $85,000 - Burnough, Erinn  (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)


Eleven.. $84,000 - Reinstein,  Joseph B.(Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)


Twelve.. $82,000 - Goodman,  Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For  The First Lady)


Thirteen.. $80,000 Fitz, Alan  O.(Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First  Lady)


Fourteen.. $77,500 - Lewis, Dana  M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)


Fifteen.. $72,500 - Mustaphi,  Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First  Lady)


Sixteen.. $70,000 - Jarvis,  Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The  First Lady)


Seventeen.. $65,000 -  Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The  First Lady)


Eighteen.. $63,000 - Tubman,  Samantha a (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)


Nineteen.. $60,000 - Boswell,  Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First  Lady)


Twenty.. $56,000 - Armbruster,  Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)


Twenty-One.. $55,000 - Bookey,  Natalie (Staff Assistant)


Twenty-Two.. $55,000 - Jackson,  Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First  Lady)

Total $2,075,200 in annual  salaries

There has NEVER been anyone in  the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers  whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social  life.

This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and  "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard  Air Force One on all ALL Trips, Europe included.

As of 11/15.2015 the Obama  Family has spent over 1.3 Billion dollars on personal family trips. 
They were personal not political or Government related.


Copyright Canada Free  Press:
Yes. The Canadian Free Press  had to publish this, perhaps because America no longer has a free  press and the USA media is too scared that they might be considered  racist or suffer at the hands of Obama if any of them published  this.


Just a quick note here, the Canada Free Press operates out of a storefront here in Toronto, and is basically a self-styled Infowars type operation. It is not to be mistaken for the Canadian Press, which is actual honoured institution in these parts. You can read about the founder here, she's an obscure wingnut that nobody pays attention to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_McLeod

There's plenty to be wary of in corporate media, but it's important not to swing too far in the other direction and blindly trust any self-styled news website.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 1st, 2016 at 10:00am

polytoxic wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:55am:
There's plenty to be wary of in corporate media, but it's important not to swing too far in the other direction and blindly trust any self-styled news website.



THANKS !!




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 1st, 2016 at 10:06am
Joey ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 10:45am



************  {    "  MORE TO COME !!!!!  "   }   *************



Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh ........ :   ******   " It Is A Secret !!!!   "  :)



" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!  "



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 1st, 2016 at 1:15pm
Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers question time.



One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is.  "Kenneth," he says.



"And what is your question, Kenneth?" she asks.



"I have three questions," he says.

"First -- whatever happened in Benghazi?

"Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?

"And, third -- whatever happened to the missing six billion dollars while you were Secretary of State?"



Just then the bell rings for recess.  Hillary informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.



When they resume Hillary says,  "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time.

Who has a question?"



A different boy -- little Johnny -- puts his hand up.



Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is.

"Johnny," he says.



"And what is your question, Johnny?" she asks.



"I have five questions," he says.



"First -- whatever happened in Benghazi?

"Second -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?

"Third -- whatever happened to the missing six billion dollars while you were Secretary of State?

"Fourth -- why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?

"And, fifth -- where's Kenneth?"


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 1st, 2016 at 4:13pm
welcome back riffy!
http://i3.cpcache.com/product_zoom/232717071/hillary_toast_dog_tshirt.jpg?color=White&height=460&width=460&padToSquare=true

Hillary will still win, but .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncdwBB9KIME

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 1st, 2016 at 4:42pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 4:13pm:
welcome back riffy!
http://i3.cpcache.com/product_zoom/232717071/hillary_toast_dog_tshirt.jpg?color=White&height=460&width=460&padToSquare=true

Hillary will still win, but .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncdwBB9KIME


You did it!!

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/51528755/no_ass_clown_coaster.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 1st, 2016 at 7:45pm
President Obama singing "Amazing Grace"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN05jVNBs64One of my favorite hymns.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:18pm



<  ----- Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .......



Be very quiet :



************  {    "  MORE TO COME !!!!!  "   }   *************



Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh ........ :   ******   " It Is A Secret !!!!   "  :)



" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!  "






" Nobody  ,  ....... NOBODY leaves the KGB  , Ronnie !!!!   "



LBJoeykins ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:28pm

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 11:23am:
Donald Chump has no chance....stone cold lock of the year!






*************   " SIGH !!!!!  "    *************





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ex703HAh4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:35pm



<  ----- " I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:40pm

Some Guy wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:44pm:

Riffhard wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 3:28pm:
So how's everyone doing? Me? Oh, I'm fine thanks. Shall I dish out the crow pie or do you peeps want to serve yourself? Bawhahahahaha!


Riffy


got my popcorn ready.







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBD_A6Ur7qM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:51pm



<  ----------- For all you young posters :




The art of being subtle :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz21w48VOs4





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 12:11am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 4:42pm:
You did it!!

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/51528755/no_ass_clown_coaster.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90


Yes, thank you. I won't even mention that Riffy is cut n pasting from his FB rants. It doesn't matter as long as we are together again.

Next week, I am starting a pay to play thread that will bring Pug back. And after that, the sky's the limit.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 2:07am

Starbuck wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 12:11am:
Yes, thank you. I won't even mention that Riffy is cut n pasting from his FB rants. It doesn't matter as long as we are together again.

Next week, I am starting a pay to play thread that will bring Pug back. And after that, the sky's the limit.



Are you implying that Riffy's return post is like a recent Stones set list: predictable and uninspired? Maybe he's a little rusty. I blame Obama.

If you can get Pug back I guess anything is possible. Maybe you can get Maxlugar back too. Joey has no material without him. Speaking of Joey, can you wrangle him back to his own thread while you're at it? He's not housebroken yet.

:waka-jawaka

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 10:57am
This time next week its finally over....oh wait of course it will just be starting

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 11:25am
Can't wait 'till Rosie O'Donnell leaves the country.  :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:24pm
Sprint Cup driver to run Donald Trump car at Texas Motor Speedway



Check out this NASCAR driver's #TrumpCar for Texas Motor Speedway.






By Chase Wilhelm
Nov 2, 2016



With Election Day in less than a week and early voting well underway, presidential candidates Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton are making their final push for the White House.

And once again, Trump will feature his campaign logo on a NASCAR race car, this time on Reed Sorenson’s No. 55 Premium Motorsports Toyota this weekend at Texas Motor Speedway.

Check out the Trump car below:





http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/story/sprint-cup-driver-to-run-donald-trump-car-at-texas-motor-speedway-110216

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:37pm
keep fucking around and he will really end up President.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:45pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:37pm:
keep fucking around and he will really end up President.


The 55 car will easily pass pre and post race inspections.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by mojoman on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 8:42pm
joey?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 9:09pm



<  ------ Some Guy   ?!   .....  !!!!!!!!    :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-the-opera-1478126892


" Trump the Opera "

" In place of a routine political endorsement, we give Trump the ultimate tribute—his own opera.  "


By DANIEL HENNINGER



" Political endorsements are a dime a dozen. Instead, we will give Donald J. Trump the grandest tribute to his unique presidential campaign—the world premiere of “Trump the Opera.”

Cast

Trump: Donald Trump

Crooked Hillary: Hillary Clinton

Lyin’ Ted: Ted Cruz

Little Marco: Marco Rubio

Low Energy Jeb: Jeb Bush

The Director: James Comey

Huma the Maidservant: Huma Abedin

Carlos Danger: Anthony Weiner

The Trump Clan: Ivanka, Melania, Donald Jr., Eric

The Clinton Cronies: John Podesta, Cheryl Mills, Terry McAuliffe

Spear Carriers: Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, Billy Bush, Corey Lewandowski, Miss Universe 1996

The Mainstream Media Chorus

My Husband: Bill Clinton (Mr. Clinton’s performance is made possible by a special gift from the Opera Society of Kazakhstan.)

Act One

Scene 1: A dining room at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

Trump, the scion of an American real-estate family, is eating dinner, seated at one end of a 60-foot-long table. At the other end is his wife, Melania. Along the sides of the table are the Trump Family—his daughter Ivanka and two older sons, Donald Jr. and Eric. Trump puts down his Big Mac and says, “I am going to be president.” Ivanka says: “Of what?” Trump, reddening, shouts: “What else? Of the United States!” Melania faints, falling to the floor.

As Donald Jr. rushes to revive Melania, a short, wiry man enters the dining room. Eric says to his father: “Who is this guy?” Trump tells the family his name is Corey Lewandowski. Trump says he found Lewandowski in New Hampshire and that he will run Trump’s presidential campaign. Revived, Melania implores her husband: “Why have you done this to me?” Trump replies: “I want to build a wall.” Trump and Lewandowski sing the moving construction duet: “A beautiful wall (Un bel muro).”

Scene 2: A Republican primary debate.

Trump stands behind a podium on a stage. On either side of him, extending to the edges of the stage, are 15 men and a woman who all say they are running for the Republican presidential nomination. The debate begins and Trump announces that he will not address anyone by their real name. Instead, he refers to them as Lyin’ Ted, Little Marco and Low Energy Jeb.

The men have heard rumors of Trump’s wrathful followers, the Trumpians, and accept Trump’s insults. Lyin’ Ted attempts to placate Trump, addressing him as “my good friend, Donald.” Trump hears this as an insult and replies that Lyin’ Ted’s father might have had something to do with the Kennedy assassination. Lyin’ Ted pulls a knife from his belt. Carly Fiorina holds on to Lyin’ Ted’s wrist and in a terrifying aria warns Trump to “beware the revenge of women (la vendetta delle donne).” Gripping the sides of his lectern, Trump vows he will never again look upon the face of Fiorina.

Act Two

Scene: An interrogation room at the FBI.

It is late Saturday afternoon. Light from the setting sun illuminates the faces of Democratic presidential candidate Crooked Hillary, the Director James Comey, and Crooked Hillary’s lawyer and confidante, Cheryl Mills. Comey asks Crooked Hillary if it is true that while she was Secretary of State, she maintained a personal email server.

Crooked Hillary replies with one of the most extended arias in the history of opera: “I do not recall (Non ricordo).” Comey asks if she used the server to discuss her daughter’s wedding. Crooked Hillary replies: “Non ricordo.”

The Director asks if she has ever heard of the Clinton Foundation. Crooked Hillary rises from the table and shrieks, in a piercing F above high C: “Non ricordo! Non ricordo!”

Mills, the confidante, leans forward and asks Comey in a low, ominous whisper if the FBI is recording their conversation. The Director says she has insulted him, smashes Mills’ laptop against the wall and orders them to leave the building.

Act Three

Scene One: An outdoor stage in Palm Beach, Florida.

Trump, beset by the vast forces of Crooked Hillary and various female accusers, has retreated to his kingdom in southern Florida. Standing before a huge throng, Trump defends himself by singing the Duke of Mantua’s aria from Verdi’s “Rigoletto”: “Questa o quella (This woman or that woman).” Trump suddenly cries out that Crooked Hillary “should be locked up!” The Trumpian chorus thunders: “Lock her up! Lock her up! (Rinchiudetela!)”

Scene Two: The basement of Crooked Hillary’s castle in Chappaqua.

It is the night before the election. Crooked Hillary, Huma the Maidservant, Carlos Danger and James Comey sit at a table on top of which is a silver chalice and small ceramic pitcher. Behind them is a mammoth pile of destroyed electronics—laptops, PCs, BlackBerrys, servers.

The Director places a document on the table and the three sign it. Carlos Danger pours white liquid from the pitcher into the chalice and all drink from it, including Comey. As the others seem to fall asleep, Crooked Hillary rises to sing her last aria: “I spent my entire life helping everyone (Tutta la mia vita).”

Final Act

Scene: A golden apartment in Trump Tower on Fifth Ave.

It is 4 a.m. on election morning. Trump is at his desk, tweeting curses and maledictions at his enemies. Trump’s consigliere, Rudolph Giuliani, enters the room and tells Trump he is still a genius. Trump tweets more curses. The Trump Family enters with Chris Christie, now returned from exile in New Jersey.

All walk out onto a balcony above Fifth Avenue, led by Trump. A crowd has filled the street below. Trump suddenly climbs onto a chair and raises his arms, as if about to jump into the crowd. Instead, Trump raises his right hand, forms his thumb and fingers into a delicate zero and sings the final aria in the 72-hour-long opera: “Believe me (Credetemi). It will be so beautiful. It’s going to be very, very beautiful. Believe me.”

Opera ends. Trump begins three days of curtain calls.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 9:28pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:37pm:
keep fucking around and he will really end up President.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VBGEPzqCns

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 6:39am
keep it up fatboy.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:04pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:45pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:04pm:




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 3:03pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 2:04pm:







It's a rigged system.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 5:03pm
This is my FIRST and LAST post on this thread...since I voted 14 days ago...I dont care what any candidate or party robot phone call or talk show blowhard or whatever has to say...

FACT...over 50% of NC voters have ALREADY cast their ballots...

NC was the FIRST state to report 100% of their returns 2012 election night.

2.3 millions voters already...VOTED...because of early voting opportunities offered

WHY...OH WHY...does every state not allow this great opportunity to its citizens?!?

An article in the NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/north-carolina-early-vote-tracker.html?_r=1

It full of what-ifs...and numbers...but interesting enough...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by BONOISLOVE on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 8:26pm
I took a massive dump this morning, and I realized that shitting in a closed bathroom is no good. And that D. Trump is an asshole.

To be fair, I went twice to the restroom. It smells.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 9:29pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 5:03pm:
This is my FIRST and LAST post on this thread...since I voted 14 days ago...I dont care what any candidate or party robot phone call or talk show blowhard or whatever has to say...

FACT...over 50% of NC voters have ALREADY cast their ballots...

NC was the FIRST state to report 100% of their returns 2012 election night.

2.3 millions voters already...VOTED...because of early voting opportunities offered

WHY...OH WHY...does every state not allow this great opportunity to its citizens?!?

An article in the NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/north-carolina-early-vote-tracker.html?_r=1

It full of what-ifs...and numbers...but interesting enough...



***************   " SIGH !!!!!   "   *********************




" You Bet Big  .......... You WIN Big !!!!!!   "




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaaWWz5Z0A

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 9:39pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 10:57am:
This time next week its finally over....oh wait of course it will just be starting



**********************************



" You Bet Your Sweet Bippy !!!!!!!   "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 10:04pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 4:37pm:
keep fucking around and he will really end up President.



<  ----- Some Guy  ?!  ... !!!!! :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-clinton-campaign-at-obama-justice-1478216727



" The Clinton Campaign at Obama Justice "


" Emails on WikiLeaks show a top federal lawyer giving Hillary a quiet heads up.   "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL



" The most obnoxious spin of the 2016 campaign came this week, as Democrats, their media allies and even President Obama accused the FBI of stacking the election. It’s an extraordinary claim, coming as it does from the same crew that has—we now know—been stacking the election all along in the corridors of the Justice Department.

This is the true November surprise. For four months, FBI Director James Comey has been the public face of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server. He played that role so well, putting the FBI so front and center, that the country forgot about Mr. Comey’s bosses. Revelations this week build the case that President Obama’s politicized Justice Department has been pulling strings and flacking for Mrs. Clinton all along.

One piece of evidence comes from WikiLeaks, in a hacked email between the chairman of the Clinton campaign, John Podesta, and Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik. It was sent in May of 2015 via a private Gmail account, which has become the favored way for Obama employees to hide communications from the public. “Heads up,” Mr. Kadzik warned, informing the campaign about a coming hearing and a recent legal filing about Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

Don’t let Mr. Kadzik’s fancy title fool you: He is a Clinton partisan. Before joining the Justice Department in 2013, Mr. Kadzik spent 30 years at the (now-closed) law firm Dickstein Shapiro, engaging Democratic causes—and Clinton causes. Mr. Kadzik’s wife, Amy Weiss, was deputy press secretary in Bill Clinton’s White House and a communications director for the Democratic National Committee. Mr. Kadzik also represented the DNC. Campaign-finance records show the two variously donated to Hillary’s Senate leadership PAC, to her 2008 presidential campaign and to her current campaign.

Mr. Kadzik is also an old buddy of Mr. Podesta’s. The two go back to Georgetown Law School. When Marc Rich was lobbying Bill Clinton for a pardon, according to a 2002 House Oversight Committee report, the fugitive financier recruited Mr. Kadzik “because he was a long-time friend of White House Chief of Staff John Podesta.” Mr. Kadzik even represented Mr. Podesta, during the Monica Lewinsky saga.

WikiLeaks emails show the two chatting about birthday parties and dinner meetings with fellow Democratic power players. A 2014 email lists donors for a fundraiser that Mr. Podesta held for his daughter, running for a school board in California. Mr. Kadzik (as he sat at the Justice Department) is shown giving $250. Also appearing are the usual Clinton glitterati: Doug Band, Harold Ickes, Neera Tanden, Betty Currie, Madeleine Albright, Carol Browner. This is Mr. Kadzik’s social circle.

The Justice Department has tried to dismiss Mr. Kadzik’s tip-off to the Clinton campaign as a note “about public information,” sent “in his personal capacity, not during work hours.” But Mr. Kadzik is a senior government official. He does not get to feed any information to a potential target of an investigation, at any hour of the day or night.

What the email reveals is the mind-set of the senior officials at the Justice Department. They are in it to win it for Hillary. They have taken a cue from their boss, the president, who has felt free to personally absolve Mrs. Clinton, no matter how inappropriate that is.

Those leaders include Leslie Caldwell, head of the Criminal Division, an antibusiness activist tapped by Mr. Obama in 2014. Benjamin Mizer, who leads the Civil Division, went to bat for Mrs. Clinton last year in Freedom of Information Act litigation over her emails. He cowrote a brief insisting her email production had been “over-inclusive” and arguing there was no evidence that she had “intentionally deleted” public records. The Office of Legal Counsel is under Karl Remon Thompson, once a counselor to the über-political Eric Holder. A Washington Free Beacon report from May found that 228 Justice Department employees had donated some $75,000 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. Mr. Trump? Two contributions totaling $381.

So what else has the department done? While Mrs. Clinton was under investigation, Mr. Kadzik had the opportunity to feed her campaign plenty during personal meetings with Mr. Podesta at dinner and the latter’s home. In a previous WikiLeaks email, another Clinton staffer references “DOJ folks” who leaked him information. And Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton would have us believe they only talked grandchildren on that tarmac in Arizona.

Or what about those immunity deals for Clinton aides? Mr. Comey told Congress that they were provided by Justice Department lawyers. The Journal reported this week that “from the start” of the FBI probe into the Clinton Foundation, “Justice Department officials were stern, icy and dismissive of the case.” From the start—meaning before evidence was collected. That story says senior leaders (unnamed) pressured the FBI to shut down the investigation. (Aside: For a supposed hotbed of Trump activism, the FBI sure did a good job of keeping this probe quiet for a year.)

Mr. Comey has botched plenty in the Clinton affair. Maybe the biggest was providing a shield for Justice Department shenanigans. Because if this feels sordid now, just wait for the actual Clinton Justice Department.  "



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 4th, 2016 at 5:33am

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:24am
She's got you by the balls.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:55am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:24am:
She's got you by the balls.



Nice Stones reference !


https://youtu.be/xcMRAhJhFGw

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 4th, 2016 at 8:57am

Starbuck wrote on Nov 2nd, 2016 at 12:11am:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 1st, 2016 at 4:42pm:
You did it!!

http://i3.cpcache.com/product/51528755/no_ass_clown_coaster.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90


Yes, thank you. I won't even mention that Riffy is cut n pasting from his FB rants. It doesn't matter as long as we are together again.

Next week, I am starting a pay to play thread that will bring Pug back. And after that, the sky's the limit.





!!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 4th, 2016 at 1:03pm
CNN Breaking News:

The DNC has announced that in the event Hillary Clinton is indicted, the current ticket will be replaced by Weiner/Holder.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 4th, 2016 at 1:26pm
That shithead asshole won't win.

Sleep Tonight

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 4th, 2016 at 1:51pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 4th, 2016 at 1:26pm:
That shithead asshole won't win.

Sleep Tonight



Another great Stones reference !!

https://youtu.be/KaBgNwkxE_E

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 4th, 2016 at 3:13pm



Krispy Kreme will give you a free doughnut for voting

by Kelcie Willis, Cox Media Group National Content Desk


Winston-Salem, N.C. --

Krispy Kreme is giving people a sweet reason for voting.
The chain is offering free doughnuts of any kind to those who wear an "I voted" sticker or similar Nov. 8


http://myconnection.cox.com/article/trending/aHR0cHM6Ly9pZGVudGlmaWVycy5jbWdkaWdpdGFsLmNvbS9tZWRsZXkvcHJvZC9uZXdzLm1lZGxleXN0b3J5LzM1MTY4NjIv/


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:02am
The deplorables will be crushed.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:24am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:02am:
The deplorables will be crushed.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:33am
Joey, have a nice sunday.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 5th, 2016 at 11:32am

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 4th, 2016 at 3:13pm:



Krispy Kreme will give you a free doughnut for voting

by Kelcie Willis, Cox Media Group National Content Desk


Winston-Salem, N.C. --

Krispy Kreme is giving people a sweet reason for voting.
The chain is offering free doughnuts of any kind to those who wear an "I voted" sticker or similar Nov. 8


http://myconnection.cox.com/article/trending/aHR0cHM6Ly9pZGVudGlmaWVycy5jbWdkaWdpdGFsLmNvbS9tZWRsZXkvcHJvZC9uZXdzLm1lZGxleXN0b3J5LzM1MTY4NjIv/


Damn!  Those donuts look good!  I want one!  Or two!  Or three!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 5th, 2016 at 12:39pm
More Rocks Off gremlins? :kissmyass

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 5th, 2016 at 2:08pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QveJv7V4OZI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 6th, 2016 at 2:04pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:02am:
The deplorables will be crushed.




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 6th, 2016 at 8:08pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 6th, 2016 at 2:04pm:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:02am:
The deplorables will be crushed.




The Adorable Deplorables?  :willya

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 7th, 2016 at 2:13pm
Friggin' lines are long where I live.



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 7th, 2016 at 3:55pm
We'll be doing this again tomorrow when Trump wins!:


https://youtu.be/FRIkoSdDWq4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 7th, 2016 at 4:10pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 7th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
We'll be doing this again tomorrow when Trump wins!:


https://youtu.be/FRIkoSdDWq4






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 7th, 2016 at 4:12pm
Reason to vote for Trump?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/katy-perry-jon-bon-jovi-perform-support-hillary-clinton-democrats-bank-star-power-1590123

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 7th, 2016 at 5:16pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 7th, 2016 at 5:59pm
Gonna be a big night, tater...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 7th, 2016 at 9:09pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 7th, 2016 at 5:59pm:
Gonna be a big night, tater...



<  ----------------    Shrrrrrrrrr  ....................


*********   {   " Never tell anyone what you know is the Truth !!!!!   "   }  ********************






" Gotta Feeling 2017 is Gonna Be a Big Year  , Ronnie !!!  "



LBJoeykins ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 7th, 2016 at 9:22pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 7th, 2016 at 5:59pm:
Gonna be a big night, tater...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exaaWWz5Z0A

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 7th, 2016 at 9:30pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 5th, 2016 at 10:02am:
The deplorables will be crushed.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72-gPbl_sI0\

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:35am
We'll be doing this again tomorrow when Trump wins!:



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 8th, 2016 at 8:08am




Some Guy did it, Mrs. Cleaver !

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 8th, 2016 at 9:23am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:35am:
We'll be doing this again tomorrow when Trump wins!:






The FBI's decision over the weekend could ,  COULD come into play ( Florida  , North Carolina , NH  , etc  )  :



http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/trump-clinton-sprint-across-u-s-as-fbi-reconfirms-decision-not-to-bring-charges-against-her-in-email-case






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 8th, 2016 at 11:05am

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 8:08am:




Some Guy did it, Mrs. Cleaver !


Some Guy is the Eddie Haskel of posters....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sweetcharmedlife on Nov 8th, 2016 at 1:15pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 11:05am:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 8:08am:




Some Guy did it, Mrs. Cleaver !


Some Guy is the Eddie Haskel of posters....

He definitely wants to pound the beaver.  :paristhong :nicetits

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:55pm
bored in traffic- tuned to 750 am- rush limbow- he makes it sound like Trump will win in a landslide. Compares him to Reagen in 80. 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marijuana-legalization-9-states_us_5820c74ce4b0e80b02cba484

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:48pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
bored in traffic- tuned to 750 am- rush limbow- he makes it sound like Trump will win in a landslide. Compares him to Reagen in 80. 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marijuana-legalization-9-states_us_5820c74ce4b0e80b02cba484



He was probably hopped up on goofballs. Dude did so much dope he went deaf.

:pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 8th, 2016 at 9:12pm


" I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 8th, 2016 at 9:20pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 4th, 2016 at 6:24am:
She's got you by the balls.




************  " SIGH !!!!!  "   ****************





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McE_fULSpHY

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 8th, 2016 at 9:39pm


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by CS on Nov 8th, 2016 at 9:45pm
Sweet Virginia to decide


Thank you for your vote, California,
Thank you for your sweet and bitter vote.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Nov 8th, 2016 at 11:02pm
Sucking In The 270s

Donny T

What a g8y day.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrjGxL3cFqk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Kilroy on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:11am
You Can't Always Get What You Want,
But If You Try Sometime you find
You Get What You Need!
Congrats to The Don!
President Elect Donald Trump

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:23am
Thank you Jesus. THANK YOU LORD!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Egon on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:14am
Grab them by the pussy!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:53am
America has spoken.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:40am
Mick Jagger reacts after Donald Trump plays The Rolling Stones at victory speech


http://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/mick-jagger-reacts-after-donald-trump-plays-the-rolling-stones-at-victory-speech/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:45am
Good luck and God speed to President Trump.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by andrews27 on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:30am
Trumpocalypse?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by lotsajizz on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:11am
She won the national popular vote.  American Democracy (sic)



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:52am
Mick Jagger mocks Donald Trump over Rolling Stones song – and Twitter is angry


http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/mick-jagger-mocks-donald-trump-over-rolling-stones-song-and-twitter-is-angry-a3391321.html

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:10am
Inside the band of those red Trump hats :

"Make America White Again"

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:29am
Best of luck, ladies and gentlemen.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:29pm
Just goes to show you... never underestimate how stupid the average American is.

Yeah, Hilldawg was bad. But what you have elected is a whole other level of awful and will set us back to the Stone Age in the eyes of the rest of the world. What an absolute shitshow. Celebrate your racist, sexist, moron man child. You've earned him.

:pukey :stinkypost :forfucksake :nanker

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:09pm

leonid wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
What an absolute shitshow. Celebrate your racist, sexist, moron man child. You've earned him.





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 9th, 2016 at 3:17pm

leonid wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
Just goes to show you... never underestimate how stupid the average American is.

Yeah, Hilldawg was bad. But what you have elected is a whole other level of awful and will set us back to the Stone Age in the eyes of the rest of the world. What an absolute shitshow. Celebrate your racist, sexist, moron man child. You've earned him.

:pukey :stinkypost :forfucksake :nanker






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:19pm
I have it under the best of authority that Riffy is preparing a triumphant return.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:45pm
Has Rosie O'Donnell arrived in Canada yet ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:48pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
I have it under the best of authority that Riffy is preparing a triumphant return.


I would expect nothing less. He's been waiting 8 years for this. Surely he will hold Trumplstiltzkin to the same standards he held for Barry Obama. Wasn't he going on and on (droning?) about lack of experience and such? Who knows. Has Riffy ever applied logic to his screeds?

Bucky, maybe your cover band should learn this tune

https://youtu.be/hNv5sPu0C1E

You guys can play it at the White House when the Donald moves in.

:areyoufuckingserious :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:49pm
Now I miss Bush.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:54pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Now I miss Bush.


The jury is still out on this one. What the Donald will do (or should I say President Pence, who will clearly be the man behind the curtain) is still up in the air. It could be 5 times worse than spending 1.5 trillion and 4500 American lives on a war in the wrong country, but then again, maybe he won't f*ck things up as bad. We will have to wait and see, no?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 9th, 2016 at 7:17pm
The words of Malcom X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpu_4QIhyQ

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:01pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:54pm:

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Now I miss Bush.


The jury is still out on this one. What the Donald will do (or should I say President Pence, who will clearly be the man behind the curtain) is still up in the air. It could be 5 times worse than spending 1.5 trillion and 4500 American lives on a war in the wrong country, but then again, maybe he won't f*ck things up as bad. We will have to wait and see, no?






http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/ed-klein-hillary-clinton-crying-election/2016/11/09/id/758084/



" Ed Klein: Hillary Couldn't Stop Crying, Told Friend She Blames Comey and Obama For Loss   "



" Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly — and the president of the United States for not doing enough."


Klein said his source then asked further about President Barack Obama.

"She said: 'Well, she felt, Hillary felt, that the president could have stopped Comey a long time ago, because that's what [former President] Bill [Clinton] said."



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:05pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Now I miss Bush.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bitch on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:43pm



<  ---- Some Guy   ... ?!   ... !!!!!   :




http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trump-opportunity-1478737144



" The Trump Opportunity   "


" Sit down with Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and U.S. ambassador to Congress Mike Pence.   "


By DANIEL HENNINGER



" Now what?

Nothing will be more important to getting that answer right in the Trump victory period than separating fact from abundant fiction.

The 2016 presidential campaign was a magic mushroom tour through the American psyche—its voters, its politicians and not least the exotic varieties of people who populate what we call “the media.”

For all of them, the Trump candidacy seemed to be a national Rorschach inkblot. Everyone looked at the same Trump events, Trump speeches and Trump polls and interpreted them as individual political biases and desires.

There was one exception to this mania: the collective wisdom of the American voter.

In normal times—and these are not normal times—it would have been impossible for a candidate outputting Donald Trump’s chamber of spoken and personal horrors to win. (Sometime in the next year, John McCain deserves an apology.)


What we learned on Nov. 8, 2016, was that voters looked past or through all the atmospheric debris of this campaign and focused on what mattered—the direction of their country. Its economy, its politics and the state of the culture.

One stunning example. White evangelical Christians voted by 81% for the nation’s leading proponent of the Playboy philosophy. They blew past that because they knew that Mr. Trump’s personal life would not bring into the Oval Office the Democratic Party’s triumphant secularism. That is the philosophy that sued Hobby Lobby and the Little Sisters of the Poor into religious obeisance and elevated transgender bathrooms to a litmus test. Thus, their vote.

Another fable propagated everywhere during the campaign, and especially in the time since the Trump victory is that he had unearthed some unknown catacomb of lower-middle-class anger . . . at everything. Mr. Trump himself tagged “globalization” with the blame.

Let us be clear about the economic status of the American middle class, and indeed of the middle-class people in low-growth Europe responding to populist appeals there. Economic life isn’t bad weather. It is the result of politics. Wrong political decisions have economic consequences.

We didn’t have this sense of ennui or dissatisfaction during the growth years of the Reagan presidency in the 1980s or the Clinton presidency in the 1990s.

Barack Obama has been in charge of the U.S. economy for eight years. After passing a useless $830-billion stimulus his first year, Mr. Obama outsourced the economy to the Federal Reserve for seven years. The media let him off the hook for two terms, as if the London fog had caused what for large swaths of the middle class has been 2,900 days of an economy that remains half alive.

America’s Brexit? If so, Barack Obama and his heir-apparent Hillary Clinton were our Brussels—a crude, faraway power in Washington.

Donald Trump’s victory in blue Wisconsin was one of the election’s shockers. Well, 61% of Badger State voters said the economy was bad or “not so good.” After eight years of it, their vote was a rational choice, as was their decision to send economic reformer Ron Johnson back to the U.S. Senate.

The election’s most fabulous “narrative” is that the Trump phenomenon has torn apart the GOP. In fact, Ted Cruz’s explicitly wedge-driven candidacy was the real potential destroyer. Mr. Trump’s was merely disruptive.

Set aside the issues of trade and immigration, and the Trump policy agenda overlaps with most of his primary opponents and the congressional majority, which is a gift to Mr. Trump from state Republican parties.

The Trump opportunity is at hand to quickly normalize unease about what his presidency represents by sitting down with Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and U.S. ambassador to Congress Mike Pence to chart a reform agenda on taxes, health care, energy and financial regulation. Mr. Trump has it within his grasp to rapidly liberate the eight-year suppression of the private economy and then build out the more time-consuming pieces of his agenda atop that firm base.

As to the post-Comey investigations of Hillary, drop it. She’s finished. Move on. Besides, half of the divided country will be watching the Trump presidency for any positive sign that he’s, well, normal.

One would be to continue his campaign’s admirable outreach to black and Hispanic America. A good omen: Mr. Trump increased his vote in both categories by 2% over Mitt Romney.
Nothing would help struggling Americans of any color more than a 2016 upgrade for a U.S. education system producing blue-collar children with skills appropriate to the economy of the 1970s, if that. A presidential Inaugural speech restating Mr. Trump’s commitment to full school choice would be a start.

One more “narrative”—that the GOP isn’t diverse. Yes, they should work on it. But it looks to me as if the Democrats have their own diversity problem with millions of U.S. voters. “Clinging to guns and religion”? The “deplorables”? Those aren’t verbal slips. It is bedrock belief, and a problem for Democrats.

New York magazine’s cover this week was Donald Trump’s contorted face with the word “Loser” pasted on it. Hmmm. As America’s newest Nobel laureate in literature once put it, “The times they are a changin’.”

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by WaiteringOnAFiend on Nov 9th, 2016 at 11:45pm
But, aanyway, back to & in re. the music,
this built to a (jagger-fisting) cracker, surely?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wQeKgWeV8




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Nov 10th, 2016 at 10:36am
Ron Wood played at Bush 41's inauguration. Actually it would be pretty cool if they did play YCAGWYW at the inauguration. Can you imagine the reaction of the snowflakes?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:01pm
Thank you all for making me the best country in the world! We will truly make America great again!



I'd like to start out by rounding up the foreigners. Voodoo, you'll have to go back to Mexica and stay there this time. Teiz, Egon...gone. Gazza can stay, as he hates Bon Jovi, and that liberal turd tried to help Hillary.

As for RO, Joey is the new board master, which means he will have to increase his post count in order to keep a better watch on things. Riffy will return as secretary of state. I want negotiations worked out for "Eagles Week" by next Tuesday. Let's get it done, people! It's time to Make Rocks Off Great Again!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:29pm

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Oh he will but it will be the middle class not foreign governments.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:40pm

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Oh he will but it will be the middle class not foreign governments.


So we voted for eight more years of Obama?

I thought Hillary was supposed to be that candidate.  :nooslajaleisk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 10th, 2016 at 2:17pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 1:29pm:

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Oh he will but it will be the middle class not foreign governments.


So we voted for eight more years of Obama?

I thought Hillary was supposed to be that candidate.  :nooslajaleisk


Hillary is a big part of the elite establishment. That's why Bernie Sanders was tough for her to beat down. But Trump? I know people wanted change but was it really necessary to send in the clowns?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 10th, 2016 at 3:17pm

a.completeunknown wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Actually it would be pretty cool if they did play YCAGWYW at the inauguration. Can you imagine the reaction of the snowflakes?



LOL !!

Speaking of snowflakes: http://thehayride.com/2016/11/video-whiny-children-protest-democracy-in-new-orleans/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 10th, 2016 at 3:57pm

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Oh he is going to tell people to go fuck themselves alright. Minorities, women, gays...

Or to use terms Trump fans can understand, niggers, bitches and faggots/dykes.

:aimama :whydontcha


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 10th, 2016 at 4:44pm
Haters gonna hate:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/boss-tells-pro-trump-employees-to-resign.html

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:27pm
People who voted for Trump are tired of footing the bill for everything. For most it was as simple as that. In the 1990s it was if you want a house, go ahead and buy the house even though a lot of people couldn't afford the houses they bought.

If we don't agree with things then we are called bigots. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm college educated and for me it was about working hard and expecting everyone else to work hard too. I'll gladly vote to help the young(18 and under), the elderly, and those who are  mentally and physically incapable. Everyone else can get up every morning like I do and go to work. I think that most people feel the same way.

Don't worry if Trump gets it wrong the media will be on his ass in a heartbeat. Peaceful protests get peoples attention, not a bunch of college students yelling obscenities. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they graduate and start finding jobs, to see how they feel about their hard earned money going to pay for programs they don't support. It's great to be idealistic on daddy's dime.....or the taxpayers.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:18pm
#

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 10th, 2016 at 7:35pm

Marie wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
People who voted for Trump are tired of footing the bill for everything. For most it was as simple as that. In the 1990s it was if you want a house, go ahead and buy the house even though a lot of people couldn't afford the houses they bought.

If we don't agree with things then we are called bigots. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm college educated and for me it was about working hard and expecting everyone else to work hard too. I'll gladly vote to help the young(18 and under), the elderly, and those who are  mentally and physically incapable. Everyone else can get up every morning like I do and go to work. I think that most people feel the same way.

Don't worry if Trump gets it wrong the media will be on his ass in a heartbeat. Peaceful protests get peoples attention, not a bunch of college students yelling obscenities. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they graduate and start finding jobs, to see how they feel about their hard earned money going to pay for programs they don't support. It's great to be idealistic on daddy's dime.....or the taxpayers.



You go girl !!  :smilebrian

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by andrews27 on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:05pm

Marie wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
People who voted for Trump are tired of footing the bill for everything. For most it was as simple as that. In the 1990s it was if you want a house, go ahead and buy the house even though a lot of people couldn't afford the houses they bought.

If we don't agree with things then we are called bigots. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm college educated and for me it was about working hard and expecting everyone else to work hard too. I'll gladly vote to help the young(18 and under), the elderly, and those who are  mentally and physically incapable. Everyone else can get up every morning like I do and go to work. I think that most people feel the same way.

Don't worry if Trump gets it wrong the media will be on his ass in a heartbeat. Peaceful protests get peoples attention, not a bunch of college students yelling obscenities. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they graduate and start finding jobs, to see how they feel about their hard earned money going to pay for programs they don't support. It's great to be idealistic on daddy's dime.....or the taxpayers.


Trump is a political outsider, but that shouldn't make people believe he isn't among the elites.  Trump's record on human aid or economy building prior to election, anyone?  His thoughts on the mortgage bubble collapse and the insurance industry bailout?  His actions to relieve the recession?  Don't worry - Trump cleaned up in the crash of 2008, and didn't worry a damn about you or anyone who suffered.  Obama did that too.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:52pm
Fair enough. We will see how it plays out. I know Trump is one of the elite Andrews27. But...so is Hillary. If Hillary could later change her views ( thank goodness) on the very important topic below, than why can't Donald Trump be given a chance to show what he can do as well.  The whole world is watching....and he knows it.

Warning: She starts to ramble and she'll lose you by the end lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:57pm

Marie wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 5:27pm:
People who voted for Trump are tired of footing the bill for everything. For most it was as simple as that. In the 1990s it was if you want a house, go ahead and buy the house even though a lot of people couldn't afford the houses they bought.

If we don't agree with things then we are called bigots. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm college educated and for me it was about working hard and expecting everyone else to work hard too. I'll gladly vote to help the young(18 and under), the elderly, and those who are  mentally and physically incapable. Everyone else can get up every morning like I do and go to work. I think that most people feel the same way.

Don't worry if Trump gets it wrong the media will be on his ass in a heartbeat. Peaceful protests get peoples attention, not a bunch of college students yelling obscenities. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they graduate and start finding jobs, to see how they feel about their hard earned money going to pay for programs they don't support. It's great to be idealistic on daddy's dime.....or the taxpayers.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McE_fULSpHY

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 10th, 2016 at 9:04pm

Marie wrote on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:52pm:
Fair enough. We will see how it plays out. I know Trump is one of the elite Andrews27. But...so is Hillary. If Hillary could later change her views ( thank goodness) on the very important topic below, than why can't Donald Trump be given a chance to show what he can do as well.  The whole world is watching....and he knows it.

Warning: She starts to ramble and she'll lose you by the end lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 11th, 2016 at 8:12am



<  ---------- Some Guy   ...  ?!  ... !!!!




http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-secret-weapon-obama-1478824383





" Trump’s Secret Weapon: Obama   "


" Not to take away from the GOP victory, but this was a rejection of Obama’s governing.   "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" President-elect Donald Trump paid a visit to the White House Thursday, and by all accounts he was pleasant toward the current occupant. He should be, since Mr. Trump owes his victory to Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton’s defeat has left the Democratic Party a smoldering heap, its leaders pointing fingers over who or what to blame: James Comey. Robby Mook. Voter suppression. WikiLeaks. Sexism. Barely a mention has been made of the man who presided over one of the most epic party meltdowns in the country’s history: Mr. Obama.

Deep Democratic fissures have been on display for years, with Mrs. Clinton’s rancorous primary against Bernie Sanders only the most recent example. But the media chose to ignore this and instead to obsess about largely superficial GOP divisions. All along this election has been portrayed as a referendum on Mr. Trump. Tuesday’s results are far better viewed as a thundering repudiation, at every level, of Mr. Obama’s governing and policies.

In 2009, the president’s first year in office, the Democrats held 257 House seats, a majority that was geographically and politically diverse. After Tuesday the figure stands at 193, and fully one-third of these Democrats hail from three blue states: New York, California and Massachusetts.

The story is equally grim for Democrats in the Senate. In 2009 they held the first filibuster-proof majority since the 1970s, which evaporated in the wake of ObamaCare. Tuesday’s vote was the best chance Democrats will have in years to retake the chamber, but they lost nearly every close race.

When Mr. Obama took office, Democrats owned 29 governorships. After Tuesday it is 15, with ballots in North Carolina’s tight race still being counted. Democrats controlled 60 of the 99 state legislative chambers in 2010. Today it is 30. Now that Republicans have won the Kentucky state House for the first time in 95 years, Democrats no longer control a single legislative chamber in the South. The party of the left will hold the governorship and both chambers in precisely five states.

This isn’t to take away from Mr. Trump’s supporters, or his message. But the numbers above are a reaction to Democratic failure—to a president who rammed through unpopular legislation and governed via executive order and extralegal regulation. Tuesday’s results are a response to a government that targeted conservative nonprofits, left veterans on waiting lists, botched a health website and left the world to burn. “My legacy is on the ballot,” Mr. Obama said in September, in what was the truest statement of the campaign.

Let’s not be chintzy: There’s plenty of Democratic blame to go around. Mrs. Clinton could have run a “change” campaign and moved her party back toward the centrism that earned Bill Clinton all those white, working-class voters. She instead catered to the progressive left. One exit poll shows Mrs. Clinton won union households by 2 percentage points, when Mr. Obama carried them by 18. Of the 207 swing counties that went for Mr. Obama only once (in 2008 or 2012), Mr. Trump won 194. This is an utter abandonment of the Democratic Party that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton led.

It’s also an extraordinary grant of power to Republicans. They’d be wise to immediately understand that they now own the results. Voters are giving the GOP one chance to deliver on the change it has promised, and the party can’t afford easy mistakes.

The risks are obvious: First is the threat of internecine warfare. Mr. Trump has promised to “drain the swamp” that is Washington, D.C. But if he chooses to battle his own caucus—which, after years of primaries and turnover, is far more reformist than even a few years ago—he risks alienating his core supporters. Similarly, if GOP purists in Congress decide to ride herd on their leaders and on Mr. Trump, demanding perfection over progress, Republicans will look even more ineffective than they did out of power.

The nascent talk of firing Paul Ryan is as counterproductive an idea as they come. From the perspective of getting things done, Mr. Trump has an almost ideal team: a House speaker who is the ultimate policy wonk; a Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, who is a master tactician; a vice president-elect, Mike Pence, who has great relations with both men, knowledge of Congress and the ability to serve as a go-between.

The other obvious risk is that Mr. Trump might try to fix all of the Obama mess, all at once. That’s a recipe for a muddle. Republicans could do nothing smarter in the coming weeks than agree to prioritize a few sweeping, key initiatives—say, health care and tax reform—that would immediately boost the economy. Earning public trust with big, early victories will buy time for more reform down the road.

Republicans have been elected as the anti-Obamas. Which means they’ve been elected to make things better. If they can remember that, they have a shot. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 11th, 2016 at 8:19am
Ha!  Ha!  Ha!  No it's not a "real ad".  It's a clip from the movie Machete.!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8FpDLTs4lk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm
Reality has not quite set in here.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 11th, 2016 at 5:05pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.



Oh, it's real. It's damn real !!



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 11th, 2016 at 5:19pm
Edith dude, you can't really be excited about this?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 12th, 2016 at 7:53am

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Edith dude, you can't really be excited about this?


How can you not be excited (one way or the other) about the biggest repudiation of the status quo in modern Presidential history ?
The electorate chose a plain-talking outsider with zero political experience, but with incredible experience working with others and making things happen.
Who better to reach across the aisle and work for all Americans ?

Time will tell of course, but I think Trump is infinitely more qualified for this than the party-line, power-driven candidate who was the other choice.

Embrace the uncertainty !


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 12th, 2016 at 9:20am

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 7:53am:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Edith dude, you can't really be excited about this?


How can you not be excited (one way or the other) about the biggest repudiation of the status quo in modern Presidential history ?
The electorate chose a plain-talking outsider with zero political experience, but with incredible experience working with others and making things happen.
Who better to reach across the aisle and work for all Americans ?

Time will tell of course, but I think Trump is infinitely more qualified for this than the party-line, power-driven candidate who was the other choice.

Embrace the uncertainty !


Oh I will until he allows his buddies in the insurance industry to cancel me for pre-existing conditions. Its not like he has this huge mandate either. The country is deeply divided almost 50/50 and I don't see Trump as a uniter in any way but hope I'm wrong for the sake of the people.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:52am

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Trump will not shake things up in Washington, unless, by shaking things up, you mean a shift far, far to the right of what exists today. Just look at who he has on his team so far. Every single one of them with the exception of Ben Carson is an old white man who has been among the political elite for years. How is this shaking things up?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:54am
On a lighter note: Recreational marijuana was legalized in California! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9byp7rVKSLo

. . . sigh . . .

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by LadyJane on Nov 12th, 2016 at 12:19pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Trump will not shake things up in Washington, unless, by shaking things up, you mean a shift far, far to the right of what exists today. Just look at who he has on his team so far. Every single one of them with the exception of Ben Carson is an old white man who has been among the political elite for years. How is this shaking things up?


What about:

Kellyanne Conway, 49 year old white female; has broken a major glass ceiling by being the 1st woman to run a winning US Presidential campaign (Totally ignored by the Leftist media)

Peter Thiel, 49 year old openly GAY white male.

Rep Marsha Blackburn , 64 year old female.

Pam Bondi, 50 year old female; current Attorney General of Florida.

Just sayin......................

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 12th, 2016 at 5:07pm
Jesus fucking biff Christ!  Did you guys see that election?  That guy Don Trump won!  Fish.  Biffage.  The Age of Biff.

Trump can out-Christian anyone.  Best goddam Christian that America has produced in last 30 years.  Sepulcher.  Eucharist.

Trump is vindictive and has a long memory.  Those of you who opposed Him should scuttle to sanctuary.  Trump is going to steambash his enemies in brine.  Which is good, because my enemies line up with Trump's enemies pretty well:  Mormons, geeks, rat finks, pigeons, Chef Boyardee, Eagle fans, those two Cuban girly-men who tried to run against Trump, Germans.  There are many more.  We both hate a lot of people.

Did you guys know that Marco "Foam Dick" Rubio is 5'3"?  How is that a man?  I think he's more properly classified as a manlet.  And that Rafael "Ted" Cruz guy has a face you just want to mash into a phone book. I hear Cruz is number one on Trump's destroy list.

Trump is going to get that Churchill bust back in the Oval Nook, where it belongs.  Fishface Obama got rid of it because he hates the United Kingdom.

A lot of Bush geeks are going to be mighty disappointed in Trump.

That world series was pretty cool.  Baseball is for girls, but nice seeing the Cubs win.

Did you guys ever watch Breaking Bad?  My god, I've never wanted to deal drugs more in my life after watching that.  Did you guys see California legalized marijuana?  In your face, geeks.  The beginning of the end for Prohibition.

I got to get going, hit the hardware store.  Long live The Rolling Stones!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by parmeda on Nov 13th, 2016 at 1:14am
Moonie - talk about cashing in on a trifecta...
Cubs win the World Series
Trump wins the election
What on earth will #3 be???

I can't fucking wait! 

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 13th, 2016 at 10:47am

parmeda wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 1:14am:
Moonie - talk about cashing in on a trifecta...
Cubs win the World Series
Trump wins the election
What on earth will #3 be???

I can't fucking wait! 




Hi Pammy  ..............



Number Three will be the establishment of Larry Hagman's Birthday as a National Holiday  .  Let the Celebrations Begin :





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 13th, 2016 at 3:41pm
Aztec Dancers at Standing Rock; The Dakota Pipeline Protest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Jy4X-zSCI

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 13th, 2016 at 3:56pm
Just build that damn wall already, you assholes.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:33pm
We elected an internet troll as president

people are scared and told by people who spent eight years blocking, obstructing and questioning the sitting presidents legitimacy, they now need to calm down... Really? no thanks, I'm marching, protesting and using every legal means to protect my friends. I'm donating to ACLU, PPH, Sierra Club and Southern Poverty Law.

there's a guy who posted on here, who claimed we were going to become a Marxist country and lose our guns... looks like capitalism did ok.... doesn't mean I don't see who lost jobs and why. And that's why Trump won.

We still have our guns... I got mine.... Hold onto your weed and hope you still have insurance... Tell your reproductive rights and LGBTGQ friends to chill out, nothing to worry about with Pence around... He loves gays and women right to choose.

Trump wants to build and increase the infrastructure through government on a scale even democrats never proposed, while he screams of national pride and america first.... Nationalism and socialism.... Why does this ring a bell... oh?
Must be all the hatred for latino immigrants and a certain religion....
oh, but let's give him a chance!!!
Did you give Obama a chance?
practice what you preach...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:14am

Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
We elected an internet troll as president

people are scared and told by people who spent eight years blocking, obstructing and questioning the sitting presidents legitimacy, they now need to calm down... Really? no thanks, I'm marching, protesting and using every legal means to protect my friends. I'm donating to ACLU, PPH, Sierra Club and Southern Poverty Law.

there's a guy who posted on here, who claimed we were going to become a Marxist country and lose our guns... looks like capitalism did ok.... doesn't mean I don't see who lost jobs and why. And that's why Trump won.

We still have our guns... I got mine.... Hold onto your weed and hope you still have insurance... Tell your reproductive rights and LGBTGQ friends to chill out, nothing to worry about with Pence around... He loves gays and women right to choose.

Trump wants to build and increase the infrastructure through government on a scale even democrats never proposed, while he screams of national pride and america first.... Nationalism and socialism.... Why does this ring a bell... oh?
Must be all the hatred for latino immigrants and a certain religion....
oh, but let's give him a chance!!!
Did you give Obama a chance?
practice what you preach...









Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:52am

Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
We elected an internet troll as president

people are scared and told by people who spent eight years blocking, obstructing and questioning the sitting presidents legitimacy, they now need to calm down... Really? no thanks, I'm marching, protesting and using every legal means to protect my friends. I'm donating to ACLU, PPH, Sierra Club and Southern Poverty Law.

there's a guy who posted on here, who claimed we were going to become a Marxist country and lose our guns... looks like capitalism did ok.... doesn't mean I don't see who lost jobs and why. And that's why Trump won.

We still have our guns... I got mine.... Hold onto your weed and hope you still have insurance... Tell your reproductive rights and LGBTGQ friends to chill out, nothing to worry about with Pence around... He loves gays and women right to choose.

Trump wants to build and increase the infrastructure through government on a scale even democrats never proposed, while he screams of national pride and america first.... Nationalism and socialism.... Why does this ring a bell... oh?
Must be all the hatred for latino immigrants and a certain religion....
oh, but let's give him a chance!!!
Did you give Obama a chance?
practice what you preach...







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:53am

Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:33pm:
We elected an internet troll as president

people are scared and told by people who spent eight years blocking, obstructing and questioning the sitting presidents legitimacy, they now need to calm down... Really? no thanks, I'm marching, protesting and using every legal means to protect my friends. I'm donating to ACLU, PPH, Sierra Club and Southern Poverty Law.

there's a guy who posted on here, who claimed we were going to become a Marxist country and lose our guns... looks like capitalism did ok.... doesn't mean I don't see who lost jobs and why. And that's why Trump won.

We still have our guns... I got mine.... Hold onto your weed and hope you still have insurance... Tell your reproductive rights and LGBTGQ friends to chill out, nothing to worry about with Pence around... He loves gays and women right to choose.

Trump wants to build and increase the infrastructure through government on a scale even democrats never proposed, while he screams of national pride and america first.... Nationalism and socialism.... Why does this ring a bell... oh?
Must be all the hatred for latino immigrants and a certain religion....
oh, but let's give him a chance!!!
Did you give Obama a chance?
practice what you preach...







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:54am
Trump picks the Nazi like Bannon from Breitbart to be his key strategist. This is going to get ugly folks and very very sad.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Nov 14th, 2016 at 10:46am
Prepare For Regime Change, Not Policy Change
N. Turkuler Isiksel ▪ November 13, 2016

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Çanakkale, Turkey, 2008 (Wikimedia Commons)
It can happen here
Over the past decade, I, along with millions of my compatriots, watched an illiberal populist leader commandeer every lever of power in my country of origin, Turkey, by systematically dismantling constitutional safeguards and intimidating society into submission. Having secured less than half of the popular vote in successive elections, Erdoğan proceeded to jail journalists, activists, judges, prosecutors, generals, and members of parliament. To stay in power, he has reignited a dormant civil conflict, stoked ultranationalist violence, allowed extremist movements to flourish, orchestrated military incursions into two neighboring countries, and shredded the rule of law. In hindsight, the signs of his authoritarian intentions were there all along; many of us just didn’t think the republic would succumb so easily.
Those of us who witnessed illiberal populist movements take hold in Turkey, Russia, Hungary, Poland, the Philippines, and elsewhere are watching the election of Donald Trump with a particularly acute sense of foreboding. With this difference: unlike the United States, none of these countries have ever stood out as a beacon of liberty. To many Americans, this means that however autocratic his leanings, Trump’s designs will fail. But this is exactly the wrong conclusion to draw. It is precisely such overconfidence in the United States’ long and illustrious tradition of liberty that could lull the American public into a false sense of security and facilitate the rapid destruction of that very tradition.
Confidence in the exceptional resilience of American democracy is particularly misplaced in the face of today’s illiberal populist movements, whose leaders are constantly learning from each other. Trump has a wide variety of tried and tested techniques on which to draw; already, he has vowed to take pages out of Putin’s playbook. Defenders of liberal democracy, too, must learn from each other’s victories and defeats. Below are some hard-earned lessons from countries that have been overrun by the contemporary wave of illiberal democracy. They could be essential for preserving the American republic in the dark years to come.

Expect the worst
Don’t look for ways to soothe your sense of alarm, or assume that a Trump presidency might turn out less harmful than he has so far indicated. Autocrats almost always turn out worse than they seem before coming to power. A presidential candidate who has uncontrollable fits of rage over perceived slights from a former beauty queen is likely to use every resource available to him to hound his enemies. In the United States, those powers are formidable indeed, ranging from a nuclear arsenal to the boundless surveillance powers of the NSA.
Don’t expect the Republican establishment to rein him in, as few Republicans were courageous enough to disavow his candidacy even when he appeared to be losing the election. Now that he controls the most powerful office in the land, expect them to be fully servile.
Don’t count on the elaborate system of checks and balances instituted by the founders. James Madison’s ingenious machine was designed to withstand the mundane incompetence, greed, and short-sightedness of politicians, but it cannot weather the onslaught of an aspiring tyrant hell-bent on destroying it. Consider that the separation of powers, the primary mechanism Madison envisaged for holding tyranny at bay, is all but irrelevant while Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the presidency—particularly once they get their hands on key federal judicial appointments. All autocrats set about dismantling countervailing power structures, but with the inauspicious ideological alignment of all three branches of government, Trump won’t even have to try.
If you trust in freedom of expression to expose the autocratic machinations of a Trump administration, think again. It is no coincidence that Erdoğan and Trump are both litigious in the extreme, regularly using personal lawsuits to bludgeon their critics into quiescence. Autocrats understand that freedom of expression is fragile, and seek to stifle it by hook or by crook. The American free speech tradition is stronger than Russia’s or Turkey’s, but a hyper-sensitive, bullying White House press office could easily cow the media into favorable reporting. It does not take much for the deleterious chilling effect of such measures to take hold. Conservative “news” outlets already enjoy overwhelming dominance in the United States, and Trump’s singular genius is for manipulating the media. That, after all, is how he fueled the birther movement that in turn made him into a political force. Finally, he can also be expected, like Berlusconi, to create his own private media empire to shape the “truth” to which a large part of the electorate is exposed.

Time to use the F-word
Progressives err in assuming that the worst danger of a Trump presidency is the reversal of Obama legacy, including the Affordable Care Act, the vindication of the constitutional rights of LGBTQ people, the Iran deal, and progress on climate change. There will surely be an all-out assault on these achievements. But it would a grave mistake to see the obliteration of the progressive policy agenda as the chief danger of a Trump presidency. What we confront is not the usual dogfight between liberals and conservatives. It is a struggle between those who believe in preserving the imperfect but serviceable constitutional system of the republic, and those who will try to undermine it. For all his abhorrent policy positions, a President Cruz could have been counted on to observe the strictures of constitutional democracy, such as the peaceful alternation of power through free and fair elections. Trump gives us every reason to suspect that he will not. If the tactics of Putin, Orbán, Erdoğan, and other populists are any guide, we can expect Trump to do everything he has either threatened to do or baselessly accused the Democrats of doing: fomenting violence and voter intimidation, rigging elections, spying on, prosecuting, and imprisoning his opponents, silencing the press, and more.
Like other illiberal populists, Trump is capable of inflicting irreparable damage to this country’s institutions within a relatively short space of time. What we therefore have to prepare to resist is not policy change; it is regime change. Above all, we must shake off the “it can’t happen here” mentality and seriously contemplate the unprecedented danger Trump represents: that of the United States sliding into a form of fascism. A single cataclysmic event, such as a major terror attack, could hasten this slide. Americans from all across the political spectrum who believe in constitutional democracy must unite to resist it.

Protest early and often
The experience of Russia and Turkey suggest that the only democratic, nonviolent practice capable of deterring the autocrats is the sight of endless crowds marching: vociferous, tenacious, disciplined citizens claiming ownership over their constitutional liberties and defending the integrity of their political institutions. Erdoğan was never so rattled as he was by the Gezi Park protests that quickly spread all over the country; Putin experienced the only real challenge to his regime during the street demonstrations of 2011 and 2012. In the short term, both movements failed to defang the authoritarian regimes they challenged, not because mass protests were the wrong strategy but because the brutal force commanded by a consolidated authoritarian regime makes it very difficult for such movements to succeed.
This is why it is essential to protest early and often. Citizens of consolidated democracies have absorbed a genteel lesson: if our side loses, we wait our turn until the next election. Under normal circumstances, the internalization of that lesson is essential to democracy’s stability. When those in power are poised to destroy constitutional safeguards, however, hanging on in quiet desperation until the next election can be fatal to democracy.
Instead, Americans must tap into their rich and proud tradition of civic resistance, whose highlights are the twentieth-century civil rights movement and protests against the Vietnam War. Civic action needs to begin now. We must claim public squares before Trump takes office, marching in droves and communicating a clear message that his brand of autocracy shall not pass.
Already, citizens are congregating in cities across the land and a “million-woman march on Washington” is in the works for January 21. Nationwide gatherings take time to organize, but rallies and vigils must become regular events in cities and university campuses across the land. As recent waves of popular mobilization, from Tahrir Square to Gezi Park, have shown, social media enables masses to converge on short notice. Millennials excel at this kind of thing. However, closed-circuit, feel-good moping on social media can never substitute for warm bodies on streets that refuse to be dispersed or intimidated. As concerned citizens, we must coordinate with our families, friends, colleagues, students, neighbors, and congregants, making couches available, giving rides, providing childcare, covering work shifts, and cooking meals for one another to amplify an effective civic presence. (And let’s not forget to continue poking fun at Trump. Autocrats cannot stand humor, which makes it a potent device not just for sapping their egos but also for giving citizens the much-needed solace and encouragement of laughing together.)

Find strange bedfellows
Thanks in part to their control over the media, the Russian and Turkish governments persuaded the larger public that the protesters were godless vandals, foreign agents, and marginal types. To combat such a smear campaign, citizens and community leaders must be willing to look past the ideological differences that divide them. These differences have been rendered irrelevant, at least for the moment, by the overriding danger presented by the Trump presidency. This civic resistance must bring together not just progressives of all stripes—including Black Lives Matter activists, unions, and the climate justice movement—but also immigrants, LGBTQ people, conservatives, libertarians, religious groups, veterans, teachers, students, people of all faiths, races, and ethnicities; in short, all those who believe that political disagreements should only be resolved within the framework of constitutional democracy. The good news is that it is easier to unite around opposition to despotism than it is to set out an alternative vision of how government must be run. Still, one of the most potent strategies in the autocrat’s toolkit is to sow divisions among the opposition by selectively favoring their causes. Leftists, then, should refuse to be mollified by Trump’s anti-free trade agenda, for instance, or his promise to increase government spending.

Be peaceful and resolute
Trump will use the militarized force of U.S. law enforcement against protesters on the ground, and will seek to discredit them in the public eye. Already, Milwaukee County Sheriff and Trump’s potential nominee for Homeland Security Secretary David Clarke tweeted that “temper tantrums from . . . radical anarchists must be quelled.” (In August, Clarke was quick to call the National Guard into Milwaukee when protests erupted after the police shooting of twenty-three-year-old Sylville Smith.) We must take inspiration from the peaceful momentum built by the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. and his fellow civil rights activists, and steel our spines against ominous threats that betray the U.S. Constitution’s unequivocal guarantees of the freedom of speech, assembly, and association.
Above all, let us not forget that Trump rode to power on the back of public rallies fueled by protest against political power. The tidy, staged meetings in which Hillary supporters wanly pledged to be “with her” failed to match the energy of the Trump movement. The only thing that can arrest the lawless momentum of a Trump regime is the hair of the dog: wave after wave of loud, proud, and peaceful citizens rejecting the hate, vilification, lawlessness, and division for which he stands.
Many Americans have still to discover that nothing boosts civic morale and solidarity like a massive public protest. The act of standing together in a public space and affirming our shared values and our respect for one another is a transformative experience, one that could release the still largely untapped political potential of millennials. In contrast to the Trump rallies in which racist, sexist, and Islamophobic obscenities were chanted by thousands, peaceful mass demonstrations are in order to enact the resilience of American democracy and the inclusive and affirmative ideals for which it stands. The vast majority of Americans who still affirm these ideals need just such an antidote, and they need it now.
N. Turkuler Isiksel is James P. Shenton Assistant Professor of the Core Curriculum at the Department of Political Science at Columbia University.
This is part of an ongoing series of responses to the election results.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by lotsajizz on Nov 14th, 2016 at 1:32pm
The Nazis won in the End, after all....

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 14th, 2016 at 3:21pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 14th, 2016 at 6:01pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

We ain't taking 4 years of this.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by CS on Nov 14th, 2016 at 6:20pm
Paranoid Android?

Nov. 10, 2016, 4:34 p.m.

The Ku Klux Klan says it will hold a Trump victory parade in North Carolina

http://www.trbimg.com/img-582510d9/turbine/la-ku-klux-klan-holds-rally-outside-south-carolina-statehouse-20161110/600
Ku Klux Klan members give the Nazi salute during a demonstration at the state house building on July 18, 2015, in Columbia, S.C. (John Moore / Getty Images)

One of the largest Ku Klux Klan groups in the country has announced a parade to celebrate President-elect Donald Trump's win.

The Loyal White Knights of Pelham, N.C., says on its website that its parade will take place on Dec. 3.

"TRUMP = TRUMP'S RACE UNITED MY PEOPLE," says the website's front page.

No time or location for the event is listed, and a phone call to the number on its website was not returned.

The group has between 150 and 200 members and is "perhaps the most active Klan group in the United States today," according to the Anti-Defamation League. Last year, it was part of a South Carolina protest against the Confederate flag's removal from the state Capitol.

Several Klan groups endorsed Trump. Well-known former Klan leader David Duke, who on Tuesday lost a Senate bid in Louisiana, was also a vocal supporter.

The Trump campaign was criticized this year for initially refusing to denounce support from the Klan. Later, the campaign described the Klan's efforts as "repulsive."

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by CS on Nov 14th, 2016 at 6:22pm
http://www.kkkknights.com/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Starbuck wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
Look -- the Republican potty?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:44pm
CS ?


https://youtu.be/NXxY1QWPBtc

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:56pm





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:38pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4pyOM7vdU

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:48pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.





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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 14th, 2016 at 9:02pm
Gump and the Klan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raVFzZZLp3A

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:15pm
Charlie says he has never voted and other interesting tidbits. (None of them go out on a limb here. Didn't want to alienate any fans I suppose.)

(1 minute 30 sec.)

http://news.sky.com/video/no-sympathy-for-the-donald-stones-reaction-10658524

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 15th, 2016 at 7:08pm
Please, stop this stupid thread.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 15th, 2016 at 7:26pm
Ya'll think Trump is an embarrassment ?

Check this out: http://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/11/zephyrs_new_name.html#incart_2box_nola_river_orleans_news

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:56pm

LadyJane wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Starbuck wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Trump will not shake things up in Washington, unless, by shaking things up, you mean a shift far, far to the right of what exists today. Just look at who he has on his team so far. Every single one of them with the exception of Ben Carson is an old white man who has been among the political elite for years. How is this shaking things up?


What about:

Kellyanne Conway, 49 year old white female; has broken a major glass ceiling by being the 1st woman to run a winning US Presidential campaign (Totally ignored by the Leftist media)

Peter Thiel, 49 year old openly GAY white male.

Rep Marsha Blackburn , 64 year old female.

Pam Bondi, 50 year old female; current Attorney General of Florida.

Just sayin......................




LJ, I just read a story on CNN about who Trump is considering putting in his cabinet. There were 42 names mentioned. 39 of them were white, two of the only exceptions being Ben Carson and Bobby Jindal. 35 of the 42 were white men in their 40s to early 70s. In a nation as diverse as ours, howe can anyone think this collection represents the country as a whole?

After you've finished answering this, please let me know how picking a climate change denier to head the EPA is a good thing. Then tell me how Steven Bannon, who has connections to white nationalism, is a good choice to work on the transition team.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:04pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

LadyJane wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 12:19pm:

Starbuck wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Bitch wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 9:13pm:
I voted for Trump so I hope he shakes things up in Washington. Yeah the negative commercials Hillary was airing about Trump actually made me like him more, because I want a President who says "you can tell them to go fvck themselves!" 


Trump will not shake things up in Washington, unless, by shaking things up, you mean a shift far, far to the right of what exists today. Just look at who he has on his team so far. Every single one of them with the exception of Ben Carson is an old white man who has been among the political elite for years. How is this shaking things up?


What about:

Kellyanne Conway, 49 year old white female; has broken a major glass ceiling by being the 1st woman to run a winning US Presidential campaign (Totally ignored by the Leftist media)

Peter Thiel, 49 year old openly GAY white male.

Rep Marsha Blackburn , 64 year old female.

Pam Bondi, 50 year old female; current Attorney General of Florida.

Just sayin......................




LJ, I just read a story on CNN about who Trump is considering putting in his cabinet. There were 42 names mentioned. 39 of them were white, two of the only exceptions being Ben Carson and Bobby Jindal. 35 of the 42 were white men in their 40s to early 70s. In a nation as diverse as ours, howe can anyone think this collection represents the country as a whole?

After you've finished answering this, please let me know how picking a climate change denier to head the EPA is a good thing. Then tell me how Steven Bannon, who has connections to white nationalism, is a good choice to work on the transition team.





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https://youtu.be/J8oxhaMCj4Y

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:11pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.



Me Arse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:29pm




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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Nov 16th, 2016 at 2:16am



:solongsucker

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 16th, 2016 at 6:49am
It's over.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 16th, 2016 at 1:28pm
Not sure of the source, but brilliant letter.....


"Last week a friend claimed that Donald Trump wouldn’t make a good president; he is brash, he is racist, he is a loudmouth; you know the normal things people learn to recite after being programmed by television news. The one I loved was that, “Trump is arrogant.” My friend questioned if one man could make “that much difference in the world today.” To my friend's credit, she was respectful enough to let me respond when she asked, “Really, what has Trump done?”

I said, “In June of last year, Trump entered the race for president. In just a little over a year, Trump has single handedly defeated the Republican party. He did so thoroughly. In fact, he did so in such a resounding way that the Republican Party now suffers from an identity crisis. He literally dismantled the party. Trump even dismantled and dismissed the brand and value of the Bush family.

Trump has Obama petrified that Trump will dismiss programs that weren’t properly installed using proper law.

Trump has single handedly debunked and disemboweled any value of news media as we knew it—news now suffering from an all-time level of distrust and disrespect.

Trump has leaders from all over the world talking about him, whether good or bad. Trust me, powerful men who have been president before weren’t liked by the global community. I doubt Mikhail Gorbachev liked Reagan when Reagan said, "Tear down that wall."

Trump has expressly disclosed the fraud perpetrated on the American public by Hillary Clinton. He has, quite literally, brought Hillary to her knees—if you believe that nervous tension and disorders offer physical side effects and damage.

Trump has unified the silent majority in a way that should be patently frightening to “liberals.”

As the press accuses Trump of being a house of cards, Trump has proven the press is the real house of cards. He has whipped up the entire establishment into pure panic. Trump has exposed them for who they are and worse, what they are. George Clooney was right when he said Trump draws live news coverage of his podium that he’s not yet approached. Thanks, George, you were perfectly correct.

What we see as headline news today are actually the last bubbles from the ship that is now sunk—meaning the standard news media, as a propaganda machine, has been exposed. They have no more value.

In the same way Trump asked the African-American community this question, I asked my friend, ”At this point, what do you have to lose?” We have mass cop shootings, riots in our streets, ambushed cops, double digit inflation, bombs blowing up in our cities, targeted police, #BLM, a skyrocketing jobless rate, no economic growth, privately owned land being seized by the federal government, the worst racial tension in my lifetime, no God in schools, more abortions than ever, illegal aliens pouring into our country, sick veterans receiving no care, and a debt that doubled in seven years to $19 trillion. Are you really happy with the condition of the current system?

One man has done all of this in one year—one guy, and on his own dime. And with everything I’ve written above, you believe Trump hasn't done anything? You claim that you are afraid of Donald Trump? No wonder we’re in trouble. You can say that Trump is a lousy presidential candidate. That’s your right. Just don’t ever say he’s not effective.

That Megan Kelly, FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post, the New York Times, Raleigh’s News and Observer, the AP, Don Lemon, Jake Tapper, and many more, failed to implement their collectively orchestrated lie on the American people against Trump, is actually a massive testament to Trump. The press colluded pure propaganda to accomplish his demise … and they have collectively failed and miserably.

Here's just one example of how badly America is injured right now. There are high school football players on their knees during the national anthem simply because the press used as propaganda to program those kids to do that very thing. But, these kids are mimicking NFL stars the same way the same kids chooses which brand of football shoe to purchase—they're overtly brain-washed to do that very thing.

Now, we have a generation of children who hate America.

America’s problem isn’t that little children are on their knee in collective disrespect of America. Our problem is that America is on her knee from collective disrespect by Americans.

You can disrespect America all you want. But, it’s high-time you respect the silent majority. Because they’re not simply the “silent majority” as you’ve been trained to believe when Hillary calls them “deplorables.” The fact is, they are simply the majority. And now they're no longer silent either. Donald Trump changed all of that, single-handedly and within one year.'


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 16th, 2016 at 2:33pm
https://youtu.be/2YEhNHNydIs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 16th, 2016 at 9:25pm

Joey wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

Some Guy wrote on Nov 11th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
Reality has not quite set in here.







From L to R: Useless Guinea, President of the USA, Scooter Libby, Clinton, Hit .367 for Cards, Joey, Some Silicon Valley Geek (Large Green - $$$$$$).

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 16th, 2016 at 9:33pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Not sure of the source, but brilliant letter.....


“Really, what has Trump done?”

I said, “In June of last year, Trump entered the race for president. In just a little over a year, Trump has single handedly defeated the Republican party. He did so thoroughly. In fact, he did so in such a resounding way that the Republican Party now suffers from an identity crisis. He literally dismantled the party. Trump even dismantled and dismissed the brand and value of the Bush family.

This.  No matter what you think of him, Don Trump took on the Republican party, a party hijacked many years ago by idiots, hypocrites and pseudo-conservatives (many of them used to post here).  The kind of party that nominates people like George Bush Jr. and Mitt Romney to be president.  The kind of party that lets Dick Cheney and Karl Rove call the shots.  The kind of party that wanted twits like Rubio and Rafael Cruz to be president, and did everything it could to defeat Trump.  Trump took them all on, and their Fox media, and completely steamrolled them.  For that, America is forever grateful.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm




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http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-trump-democrats-1479343424




" The New Trump Democrats   "


" Trump voters have become journalism’s biggest archaeological excavation site.     "



By DANIEL HENNINGER




" Will the donkey lie down with the elephant?

Two days after the election, Sen. Elizabeth Warren told the AFL-CIO executive council, “I will work with” Donald Trump.

Bernie Sanders: “I and other progressives are prepared to work with him.”

The Washington Post: “Pelosi says Democrats are willing to work with Trump.”

That was easy. Someone should tweet the news to the Occupy Trump Tower mobs on Fifth Avenue.

Of course this burst of Trumpian bonhomie comes with the word “if” attached: They’ll work with Donald Trump . . . if he becomes one of them. Which is to say, if he adopts the progressive policies and attitudes that just got the Democratic Party wiped out, from the presidency down to dogcatcher.

“If Republicans want to force through massive tax cuts,” thundered Sen. Warren, “we will fight them every step of the way.”

Even by the normal standards of postelection schadenfreude, it is hard not to be agog at the spectacle of Democrats trying to figure out what hit them and what to do about it.

A personal favorite is that Democrats must now distance themselves from “wealthy donors.” Party check-writers from Barbra Streisand to Jay Z put it all out there for Hillary, and this is the thanks they get—Bernie Sanders denouncing them to Stephen Colbert as “the liberal elite.”

A conclusion has emerged that the party forgot the forgotten man. In the past week, Trump voters have become the biggest archaeological dig in journalism, with the New York Times last weekend outputting three reports on lost tribes in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan.

President Obama paused during his trip to Greece to admit Mr. Trump won because of voter “anxiety” over the economy. That is the emerging Democratic consensus: The party needs to rediscover the economic well-being of the kind of people who voted Democratic from FDR to Bill Clinton. It is a good question how a party could forget an 80-year constituency.

Nancy Pelosi’s leadership of House Democrats is now under challenge, we are supposed to believe, from members who seethed in silence for years as the party became defined by the Streisandian elites on the East and West Coasts.

Ohio’s Rep. Marcy Kaptur and fellow Ohioan Tim Ryan are both considering an attempt to overthrow the party’s most-famous San Francisco Democrat after Thanksgiving.

Will the progressive websites publish their annual advice column, “How to talk to your uncle at Thanksgiving dinner”? Maybe this year they should just listen.

Somewhere inside this Democratic mess may be the beginning of wisdom. But for all the commitment to rediscovering the lives of blue-collar Americans, Tiger Woods is more likely to figure out his golf swing before the party relearns the realities of the American economy.

This generation of Democrats doesn’t even know what the economy is anymore.


For the Democrats, America’s daily life of work, profit and loss across 50 states is essentially an alien phenomenon that sends them revenue, the way a pipeline transmits natural gas. This pipeline fuels their “economy,” which is the thousands and thousands of spending and line items in the $4 trillion federal budget.

Some would call this redistribution. The Democrats would call it their life’s work. Truth is, it isn’t working for them anymore.

There is no possibility that the Democrats are going to gain back enough of these Trump voters unless someone in their party stands up and shouts that these emperors of “economic fairness” aren’t wearing any clothes.

Other than the direct injection of infrastructure spending, you will look in vain through the party’s postmortems for a policy idea that would lift the economic prospects of people in places like Wilkes-Barre, Pa., who went over to Donald Trump.

In 1962 John F. Kennedy, whose campaign pledge was “get America moving again,” proposed a tax cut at the urging of his Republican Treasury Secretary, and Wall Street grandee, Douglas Dillon.

In a speech, Kennedy called for “an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in personal and corporate income taxes” to reform a system that “reduces the financial incentives for personal effort, investment, and risk-taking.” The economy grew strongly for years.

We’re there again, in a system that is risk averse and suppresses effort and investment. But the Democrats saying this week that they need to rediscover the economic life of America’s voters would rather drink arsenic than cut taxes on capital, lest some employer on one of the distant stars, say Wisconsin, might, ugh, make more money.

Possibly this assessment of the Democrats’ economic obtuseness is too harsh. If proven wrong, it will be withdrawn.

New Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer has brought West Virginia centrist Joe Manchin onto his leadership team. In 2018, Democrats must defend 10 Senate seats in states Donald Trump won. If I were one of these 10, I’d give the Democrats 2017 to reboot their persona. If not, I’d go over to the other side.   "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:13pm

This is a great article....

http://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/153181757500/on-rural-america-understanding-isnt-the-problem


On Rural America: Understanding Isn’t The Problem
As the aftermath of the election of Donald Trump is being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides-”Democrats failed to understand white, working class, fly-over America.”  Trump supports are saying this.  Progressive pundits are saying this.  Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this.  Even  some Democratic leaders are saying this.  It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete bullshit.  It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to throw attention away from the real problem.  The real problem isn’t east coast elites don’t understand or care about rural America.  The real problem is rural America doesn’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out.  They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because the don’t want to admit it is in large part because of choices they’ve made and horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe.

I grew up in rural, Christian, white America.  You’d be hard-pressed to find an area in the country that has a higher percentage of Christians or whites.  I spent most of the first twenty-four years of my life deeply embedded in this culture.  I religiously (*pun intended) their Christian services.  I worked off and on, on their rural farms.  I dated their calico skirted daughters.  I camped, hunted, and fished with their sons.  I listened to their political rants at the local diner and truck stop.  I winced at their racist/bigoted jokes and epitaphs that were said more out of ignorance than animosity.  I have also watched the town I grew up in go from a robust economy with well-kept homes and infrastructure turn into a struggling economy with shuttered businesses, dilapidated homes, and a broken down infrastructure over the past thirty years. The problem isn’t that I don’t understand these people.  The problem is they don’t understand themselves, the reasons for their anger/frustrations, and don’t seem to care to know why.

In deep red, white America, the white Christian God is king, figuratively and literally.  Religious fundamentalism is what has shaped most of their belief systems.  Systems built on a fundamentalist framework are not conducive for introspection, questioning, learning, change.  When you have a belief system that is built on fundamentalism, it isn’t open to outside criticism, especially by anyone not a member of your tribe and in a position of power.  The problem isn’t “coastal elites don’t understand rural Americans.”  The problem is rural America doesn’t understand itself and will NEVER listen to anyone outside their bubble.  It doesn’t matter how “understanding” you are, how well you listen, what language you use…if you are viewed as an outsider, your views are automatically discounted.  I’ve had hundreds of discussions with rural white Americans and whenever I present them any information that contradicts their entrenched beliefs, no matter how sound, how unquestionable, how obvious, they WILL NOT even entertain the possibility it might be true.  Their refusal is a result of the nature of their fundamentalist belief system and the fact I’m the enemy because I’m an educated liberal.  At some point during the discussion, “That’s your education talking,” will be said, derogatorily, as a general dismissal of everything I said.  They truly believe this is a legitimate response because to them education is not to be trusted.  Education is the enemy of fundamentalism because fundamentalism, by its very nature, is not built on facts. The fundamentalists I grew up around aren’t anti-education.  They want their kids to know how to read and write.  They are anti-quality, in-depth, broad, specialized education.  Learning is only valued up to the certain point.  Once it reaches the level where what you learn contradicts doctrine and fundamentalist arguments, it becomes dangerous.  I watched a lot of my fellow students who were smart, stop their education the day they graduated high school.  For most of the young ladies, getting married and having kids was more important than continuing their learning.  For many of the young men, getting a college education was seen as unnecessary and a waste of time.  For the few who did go to college, what they learned was still filtered through their fundamentalist belief system.  If something they were taught didn’t support a preconception, it would be ignored and forgotten the second it was no longer need to pass an exam. 

Knowing this about their belief system and their view of outside information that doesn’t support it, telling me that the problem is coastal elites not understanding them completely misses the point. 

Another problem with rural, Christian, white Americans is they are racists. I’m not talking about white hood wearing, cross burning, lynching racists (though some are.)  I’m talking about people who deep down in their heart of hearts truly believe they are superior because they are white.  Their white God made them in his image and everyone else is a less-than-perfect version, flawed, cursed.  The religion in which I was raised taught this.  Even though they’ve backtracked some of their more racist declarations, many still believe the original claims.  Non-whites are the color they are because of their sins, or at least the sins of their ancestors.  Blacks don’t have dark skin because of where they lived and evolution.  They have dark skin because they are cursed and cursed people don’t deserve the things God’s blessed whites do.  God cursed them for a reason and it isn’t proper to question them.  If God cursed them, then treating them as equals would be going against God’s Will.  It is really easy to justify treating people differently, poorly, if they are cursed by God, will never be as good as you no matter what they do because of some predetermined status given to them by an almighty God.  Once you have this view, it is easy to lower the outside group’s standing and acceptable level of treatment.  Again, there are varying levels of racism at play in rural, Christian, white America.  I know people who are ardent racists.  I know a lot more whose racism is much more subtle but nonetheless racist.  It wouldn’t take sodium pentothal to get most of these people to admit they believe they are fundamentally better and superior to minorities.  They are white supremacists who dress up in white dress shirts, ties, and gingham dresses.   They carry a Bible and tell you, “everyone’s a child of God” but forget to mention that some of God’s children are more favored than others and skin tone is the criterion by which we know who is and who isn’t at the top of God’s list of most favored children.

For us “coastal elites” who understand evolution, genetics, science…nothing we say to those in fly-over country is going to be listened to because not only are we fighting against an anti-education belief system, we are arguing against God.  You aren’t winning a battle of beliefs with these people if you are on one side of the argument and God is on the other.  No degree of understanding this is going to suddenly make them less racist, more open to reason and facts.  Telling “urban elites” they need to understand rural Americans isn’t going to lead to a damn thing because it misses the causes of the problem.

Because rural, Christian, white Americans will not listen to educated arguments, supported by facts that go against their fundamentalist belief systems from “outsiders,” any change must come from within.  Internal change in these systems does happen, but it happens infrequently and it always lags far behind reality.  This is why they fear change so much.  They aren’t used to it.  Of course, it really doesn’t matter whether they like it or not, it, like the evolution and climate change even though they don’t believe it, it is going to happen whether they believe in it or not.

Another major problem with closed-off, fundamentalist belief systems is they are very susceptible to propaganda.  All belief systems are to some extent, but fundamentalist systems even more so because there are no checks and balances.  If bad information gets in, it doesn’t get out and because there are no internal mechanisms to guard against it, it usually ends up very damaging to the whole.  A closed-off belief system is like you spinal fluid-it is great as long as nothing infectious gets into it.  If bacteria gets into your spinal fluid, it causes unbelievable damage because there are no white blood cells in it whose job is to fend off invaders and protect the system.  This is why things like meningitis is so horrible.  Without the protective services of white blood cells in the spinal column, meningitis spreads like wildfire once it’s in and does significant damage in a very short period of time.  Once inside the closed-off spinal system, bacteria is free to destroy whatever it wants and does.  The very same is true with closed-off belief systems.  Without built-in protective functions like critical analysis, self-reflection, openness to counter-evidence, willingness to re-evaluate any and all beliefs, etc., bad information in a closed-off system ends up doing massive damage in short period of time.  What has happened to too many fundamentalist belief systems is damaging information has been allowed in from people who have been granted “expert status.”  If someone is allowed into a closed-off system and their information is deemed acceptable, anything they say will readily be accepted and become gospel.  Rural, Christian, white Americans have let in anti-intellectual, anti-science, bigoted, racists into their system as experts like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, any of the blonde Stepford Wives on FOX, every evangelical preacher on television because they tell them what they want to hear and because they sell themselves as being “one of them.  The truth is none of these people give a rat’s ass about rural, Christian, white Americans except how can they exploit them for attention and money.  None of them  have anything in common with the people who have let them into their belief systems with the exception they are white and they “speak the same language” of white superiority, God’s Will must be obeyed, and how, even though they are the Chosen Ones, they are the ones being screwed by all the people and groups they believe they are superior to. 

Gays being allowed to marry are a threat.  Blacks protesting the killing of their unarmed friends and family are a threat.  Hispanics doing the cheap labor on their farms are somehow viewed a threat.  The black President is a threat.  Two billion Muslims are a threat.  The Chinese are a threat.  Women wanting to be autonomous are a threat. The college educated are a threat.  Godless scientists are a threat. Everyone who isn’t just like them has been sold to them as a threat and they’ve bought it hook, line, and grifting sinker.  Since there are no self-regulating mechanisms in their belief systems, these threats only grow over time.  Since facts and reality don’t matter, nothing you say to them will alter their beliefs.  President Obama was born in Kenya, is a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood who hates white Americans and is going to take away their guns.  I feel ridiculous even writing this it is so absurd but it is gospel across large swaths of rural America.  Are rural, Christian, white Americans scared?  You’re damn right they are.  Are their fears rational and justified?  Fuck no!  The problem isn’t understanding their fears. The problem is how to assuage fears based on lies in closed-off fundamentalist belief systems that don’t have the necessary tools for properly evaluating the fears.

I don’t have a good answer to this question.  When a child has an irrational fear, you can deal with it because they trust you and are open to possibilities.  When someone doesn’t trust you and isn’t open to anything not already accepted as true in their belief system, there really isn’t much, if anything you can do.  This is why I think the whole, “Democrats have to understand and find common ground with rural America,” is misguided and a complete waste of time. When a three-thousand-year-old book that was written by uneducated, pre-scientific people, subject to translation innumerable times, edited with political and economic pressures from Popes and kings, is given higher intellectual authority than facts arrived at from a rigorous, self-critical, constantly re-evaluating system that can and does correct mistakes, no amount of understanding, no amount of respect, no amount of evidence is going to change their minds, assuage their fears.

Do you know what does change the beliefs of fundamentalists, sometimes? When something becomes personal.  Many a fundamentalist have changed their minds about the LGBT community once their loved ones started coming out of the closet.  Many have not.  But, those that have did so because their personal experience came in direct conflict with what they believe.  My own father is a good example of this.  For years I had long, sometimes heated discussions with him about gay rights.  Being the good religious fundamentalist he is, he could not even entertain the possibility he was wrong.  The Church said it was wrong so therefore it was wrong.  No questions ask.  No analysis needed.  This changed when one of his step children who he adores came out of the closet.  He didn’t do a complete 180.  He has a view that that tries to accept gay rights while at the same time viewing it as a mortal sin because his need to have his belief system be right outweighs everything else.  This isn’t uncommon.  Deeply held beliefs are usually only altered, replaced under catastrophic circumstances that are personal.  This belief system alteration works both ways.  I know die hard, open-minded progressives who became ardent fundamentalists due to a traumatic event in their lives.  A really good example of this is the comedian Dennis Miller.  I’ve seen Miller in concert four different times during the 1990s.  His humor was complex, riddled with references, and leaned pretty left on almost all issues.  Then 9/11 happened.  For whatever reasons, the trauma of 9/11 caused a seismic shift in Miller’s belief system.  Now he is a mainstay on conservative talk radio.  His humor was replaced with anger and frustration.  9/11 changed his belief system because it was a catastrophic event that was personal to him.

The catastrophe of the Great Depression along with the progressive remedies by FDR helped create a generation of Democrats from previously die-hard Republicans.  People who had, up until that point, deeply believed government couldn’t help the economy only the free market could changed their minds when the brutal reality of the Great Depression affected them directly, personally.  I thought the financial crisis in 2008 would have a similar, though lesser, impact on many Republicans.  It didn’t.   The systems that were put in place after the Great Depression to deal with economic crises, the quick, smart response by Congress and the administration helped make what could have been a catastrophic event into merely a really bad one. People suffered, but they didn’t suffer enough to where they were open to questioning their deeply held beliefs.  Because this questioning didn’t take place, the Great Recession didn’t lead to any meaningful political shift away from poorly regulated markets, supply side economics, or how to respond to a financial crisis.  This is why, even though rural, Christian, white America was hit hard by the Great Recession, they not only didn’t blame the political party they’ve aligned themselves with for years, they rewarded them two years later by voting them into a record number of state legislatures and taking over the U.S. House.  Of course, it didn’t help matters there were scapegoats available they could direct their fears, anger, and white supremacy towards.  A significant number of rural America believes President Obama was in charge when the financial crisis started.  An even higher number believe the mortgage crisis was the result of the government forcing banks to give loans to unqualified minorities.  It doesn’t matter how untrue both of these are, they are gospel in rural America.  Why reevaluate your beliefs and voting patterns when scapegoats are available? 

How do you make climate change personal to someone who believes only God can alter the weather?  How do you make racial equality personal to someone who believes whites are naturally superior to non-whites? How do you make gender equality personal to someone who believes women are supposed to be subservient to men by God’s command?  How do you get someone to view minorities as not threatening personal to people who don’t live around and never interact with them?  How do you make personal the fact massive tax cuts and cutting back government hurts their economic situation when they’ve voted for these for decades?  I don’t think you can without some catastrophic events.  And maybe not even then.  The Civil War was pretty damn catastrophic yet a large swath of the South believed and still believes they were right, had the moral high ground.  They were/are also mostly Christian fundamentalists who believe they are superior because of the color of their skin and the religion they profess to follow.  There is a pattern here for anyone willing to connect the dots.   “Rural, white America needs to be better understood,” is not one of the dots.  “Rural, white America needs to be better understood,” is a dodge, meant to avoid the real problems because talking about the real problems is viewed as “too upsetting,” “too mean,” “too arrogant,” “too elite,” “too snobbish.”  Pointing out Aunt Bee’s views of Mexicans, blacks, gays…is bigoted isn’t the thing one does in polite society.  Too bad more people don’t think the same about the views Aunt Bee has. It’s the classic, “You’re a racist for calling me a racist,” ploy.  Or, as it is more commonly known, “I know you are but what am I?”

I do think rational arguments are needed, even if they go mostly ignored and ridiculed.  I believe in treating people with the respect they’ve earned but the key point here is “earned.”  I’ll gladly sit down with Aunt Bee and have a nice, polite conversation about her beliefs about “the gays,” “the blacks,” “illegals,”…and do so without calling her a bigot or a racist.  But, this doesn’t mean she isn’t a bigot and a racist and if I’m asked to describe her beliefs these are the only words that honestly fit.  No one with cancer wants to be told they have cancer, but just because no one uses the word, “cancer,” it doesn’t mean they don’t have it. Just because the media, pundits on all sides, some Democratic leaders don’t want to call the actions of many rural, Christian, white Americans, “racist/bigoted” doesn’t make them not so.  Avoiding the obvious only prolongs getting the necessary treatment.  America has always had a race problem.  It was built on racism and bigotry. This didn’t miraculously go away in 1964 with the passage of the Civil Rights Act. It didn’t go away with the election of Barack Obama.  If anything, these events pulled back the curtain exposing the dark, racist underbelly of America that white America likes to pretend doesn’t exist because we are the reason it exists.  From the white nationalists to the white, suburban the real football moms who voted for Donald Trump, to the far left progressives who didn’t vote at all, racism exists and has once again been legitimized and normalized by white America. 

The honest truths that rural, Christian, white Americans don’t want to accept and until they do nothing is going to change, are:

-Their economic situation is largely the result of voting for supply-side economic policies that have been the largest redistribution of wealth from the bottom/middle to the top in U.S. history.

-Immigrants haven’t taken their jobs.  If all immigrants, legal or otherwise, were removed from the U.S., our economy would come to a screeching halt and prices on food would soar.

-Immigrants are not responsible for companies moving their plants overseas. Almost exclusively white business owners are the ones responsible because they care more about their share holders who are also mostly white, than they do American workers.

-No one is coming for their guns.  All that has been proposed during the entire Obama administration is having better background checks.

-Gay people getting married is not a threat to their freedom to believe in whatever white God you want to.  No one is going to make their church marry gays, make gays your pastor, accept gays for membership.

-Women having access to birth control doesn’t affect their life either, especially women who they complain about being teenage, single mothers.

-Blacks are not “lazy moochers living off their hard earned tax dollars” anymore than many of your fellow rural neighbors.  People in need are people in need.  People who can’t find jobs because of their circumstances, a changing economy, outsourcing overseas, etc. belong to all races. 

-They get a tremendous amount of help from the government they complain does nothing for them.  From the roads and utility grids they use to the farm subsidies, crop insurance, commodities protections…they benefit greatly from government assistance.  The Farm Bill is one of the largest financial expenditures by the U.S. government.  Without government assistance, their lives would be considerably worse.

-They get the largest share of Food Stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security.

-They complain about globalization but line up like everyone else to get the latest Apple product.  They have no problem buying foreign-made guns, scopes, and hunting equipment.  They don’t think twice about driving trucks whose engine was made in Canada, tires made in Japan, radio made in Korea, computer parts made in Malaysia…

-They use illicit drugs as much as any other group.  But, when other people do it is a “moral failing” and they should be severely punished, legally.  When they do it, it is a “health crisis” that needs sympathy and attention.

-When jobs dry up for  whatever reasons, they refuse to relocate but lecture the poor in places like Flint for staying in towns that are failing.

-They are quick to judge minorities for being “welfare moochers” but don’t think twice about cashing their welfare check every month.

-They complain about coastal liberals, but the taxes from California and New York are what covers their farm subsidies, helps maintain their highways, and keeps their hospitals in their sparsely populated areas open for business.

-They complain about “the little man being run out of business” then turn around and shop at big box stores.

-They make sure outsiders are not welcome, deny businesses permits to build, then complain about businesses, plants opening up in less rural areas.

-Government has not done enough to help them in many cases but their local and state governments are almost completely Republican and so too are their Representatives and Senators.  Instead of holding them accountable, they vote them in over and over and over again.

-All the economic policies and ideas that could help rural America belong to the Democratic Party: raising the minimum wage, strengthening unions, infrastructure spending, reusable energy growth, slowing down the damage done by climate change, healthcare reform…all of these and more would really help a lot of rural Americans.

What I understand is rural, Christian, white America is entrenched in fundamentalist belief systems, don’t trust people outside their tribe, have been force fed a diet of misinformation and lies for decades, are unwilling to understand their own situations, truly believe whites are superior to all races.  No amount of understanding is going to change these things or what they believe.  No amount of niceties is going to get them to be introspective.  No economic policy put forth by someone outside their tribe is going to be listened to no matter how beneficial it would be for them.  I understand rural, Christian, white America all too well.  I understand their fears are based on myths and lies.  I understand they feel left behind by a world they don’t understand and don’t really care to.  I understand they are willing to vote against their own interest if they can be convinced it will make sure minorities are harmed more.  I understand their Christian beliefs and morals are truly only extended to fellow white Christians.  I understand them.  I understand they are the problem with progress and will always be because their belief systems are constructed against it.  The problem isn’t a lack of understanding by “coastal elites” of rural, Christian, white America.  The problem is a lack of understanding why rural, Christian, white America believes, votes, behaves the ways it does by rural, Christian, white America.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:26pm
Oh good grief..... let it go.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:47pm
I live iin rural America and proud of it. I teach at a Title 1 middle school in Louisiana with all shapes and sizes, races, etc. And no, I'm not fearful of anyone or thing, and most people I know around here aren't either.   

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 17th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Marie wrote on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:47pm:
I live iin rural America and proud of it. I teach at a Title 1 middle school in Louisiana with all shapes and sizes, races, etc. And no, I'm not fearful of anyone or thing, and most people I know around here aren't either.   


You go girl !  :areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Nov 17th, 2016 at 8:42pm
Hillary will become a Scientologist and overthrow David Miscavage.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 17th, 2016 at 8:54pm
We are a nation divided.  The Haves vs. the Have-Nots.  Mensa vs. The Retards.  Elites vs. The Welfares.  Normals vs. The Fats.  Blacks vs. The Jews.  Presbos vs. Baps.  North vs. South, part 2 - and we all know how that ended for the cowards.

I only see one man able stormbash the aisle of hate threatening to engulf the perversity of our once great land of fruit and plains.  It Nation Time, Donnie!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 17th, 2016 at 9:24pm
Okies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MS4gFPr2Hk

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Marie on Nov 17th, 2016 at 9:44pm
Yes Okies..... who not only had to live during the Great Depression, but also with dust storms on a regular basis in the early 1930s. Even though it is fiction Gorda, you might want to read Out of the Dust by Karen Hesse. My sixth graders enjoyed it.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Nov 17th, 2016 at 9:57pm

Marie wrote on Nov 17th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
Yes Okies..... who not only had to live during the Great Depression, but also with dust storms on a regular basis in the early 1930s. Even though it is fiction Gorda, you might want to read Out of the Dust by Karen Hesse. My sixth graders enjoyed it.


Have you read The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck?  I read it in high school.  It made me cry.  I don't understand why people are so full of hate. 

P.S.  My former boss was a Latina, and she treated me like cr@p!  I hate to admit this, but the truth is my best bosses have all been male and white.  Maybe God put them there for a reason?  I hope for all our sake, Mr. Trump does a good job.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 18th, 2016 at 8:58am
They enjoyed the White Privilege, gordita.  Probably enjoyed the Fat Privilege too.  A lot of Fat White guys out there.  Jesus fucking Christ, there must be millions of Fat White American males duckwalking around out there!  It's like a faction.  Cabal o' Fat. 

Trump is pro-White, but no one knows whether he is pro-Fat or not.  He ditched Christie after the Port-O-Potty thing.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 18th, 2016 at 9:14am
Moonie! Guess who might be Secretary of State?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 18th, 2016 at 10:27am



<  ------------- Some Guy   ?!




http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-double-down-1479427359




" The Democrats Double Down  "

" The lesson the party is learning from its loss is that it didn’t spend and regulate enough.   "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" We teach our children that what matters isn’t how we handle success, but how we handle defeat. Tell that to the collapsing Democratic Party.

Here’s what Democrats know: They got thumped last week. Donald Trump cleaned their clocks, despite his disorganization, controversies and lack of money. Senate Democrats blew at least seven competitive races, and they remain in the minority. House Democrats blew even more, and they remain in the minority. Democratic governors got thumped. Democratic state legislators got thumped. Democratic dog catchers—if there were any on the ballot—got thumped.

What Democrats should realize, because everyone else does, is that voters rejected both their policies (which have undermined middle- and low-income families) and their governance (which has fueled rage at a power-hungry federal government). Hillary Clinton proposed more of the same. Coal workers said no. Blue-collar union workers said no. Suburban moms said no. Small businessmen, drowning under Dodd-Frank and ObamaCare, said no.

Instead Democrats think last week was an accident. Mrs. Clinton tells donors that she only lost because of FBI Director Jim Comey.Barack Obama faults Hillary’s tactics—she didn’t spend enough time in the right states. Michael Dukakis says Democrats only lost because of the Electoral College. Rachel Maddow blames third-party candidates.

All this denial has cleared the field for Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the leading voice now calling on the party to recognize it has erred and needs change. She is telling the masses, however, that Democrats lost because they didn’t go big enough. They didn’t spend enough. Didn’t regulate enough. Didn’t socialize health care enough. Her prescription: Double down.

That is precisely what Democrats are doing. The party is falling in line to install a Minnesota radical, Rep. Keith Ellison, as head of the Democratic National Committee. No one seems concerned that Mr. Ellison is a progressive to make even Mrs. Warren blush, utterly out of tune with the concerns of average Americans.

The party’s only real interest? Mr. Ellison is black and Muslim, which checks the diversity boxes. But might not the party help itself more by electing a Latino leader? Maybe even a Latino woman? This is exactly the approach that Mrs. Clinton pursued by practicing identity politics and catering to specific blocs of voters, while alienating whites and ignoring core issues.

Nancy Pelosi in 2010 oversaw the loss of 63 Democratic House seats, the biggest wipeout in 70 years. After last week, her third failure to retake the House, that net loss figure remains virtually unchanged. Her response was to make another run for House minority leader, though Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan announced Thursday that he will challenge her.

New York’s Sen. Chuck Schumer this week attained his dream of ascending to lead his party in the Senate, and rumors are that he didn’t always agree with the obstructionist tactics of his predecessor Harry Reid. So he has already reached out to Mr. Trump. Sen. Schumer has an interest in doing so, if only to try to save the skins of the 10 Democrats up for re-election in 2018 who hail from states that Mr. Trump won—among them, Indiana, West Virginia, Montana and North Dakota.

But this assumes that Mr. Schumer will be running the show. The party’s two super-senators, Ms. Warren and Bernie Sanders, have other ideas. Both intend to rally the furies of the progressive movement to oppose any Republican reform. Even Mr. Schumer’s polite outreach to Mr. Trump provoked a progressive meltdown, with screams that Senate Democrats are already “selling out.” This might be why Mr. Schumer, in penance, threw his support behind Mr. Ellison to lead the party.

A few lone dissenters are shouting in the gale. Boyd Brown, a Democratic National Committee member from South Carolina (and therefore a dying breed), told Politico this week: “When you have Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer making the sale for you, that dog don’t hunt. It’s time to reshuffle the deck and get some younger folks in there with some more diverse backgrounds.” Mr. Boyd is likely to be ignored, and for reasons that go beyond his folksy reference to hunting dogs.

That’s because Democrats right now look a lot like the House Republicans of the early 2000s, who became ever more desperate to hold on to power in the face of scandal, laziness and a loss of principle. As more voters abandoned them, the GOP became ever more interested in culturally catering to a shrinking circle of supporters, in particular the religious right. Remember the explosion over Terri Schiavo? That was the GOP version of executive orders on transgender bathrooms.

Republicans had the benefit of a broad grass-roots movement in the Tea Party that soon after defined the terms of the party’s re-election: If it wanted power again, it would have to embrace a reform agenda for a center-right country. It would have to give up earmarks and self-dealing, focus on fixing taxes, entitlements, health care. The GOP took back the House in 2010.

In Mrs. Clinton’s defeat, progressives see their chance to finally run the Democratic Party. And they may run it—in the minority—for a very long time  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 18th, 2016 at 8:03pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 18th, 2016 at 9:14am:
Moonie! Guess who might be Secretary of State?




I saw that as well.  If Trump does that he's everything that he claimed he wasn't.  He would be a total fraud, and you would truly have to wonder (truly, as opposed to usual "they" conspiracies) if the whole Trump campaign wasn't a scam cooked up with the Republican elites he said he was fighting.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bluzdude on Nov 18th, 2016 at 9:08pm
Christie for Secretary of Transportation!
:loloncemore

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:10pm
"In that day the Lord with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea."

Isaiah 27:1

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 19th, 2016 at 10:28pm
Shut the fuck up.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 20th, 2016 at 12:46am
Take it easy.  Moof with the white man.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 21st, 2016 at 8:54am
It wasn't aimed at you, sirmoonie. That phrase came to my mind and came out unfiltered.

Appy polly loggies.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:51am
Christie for Secretary of Agriculture!  He sure is a good eater...yikes!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bluzdude on Nov 21st, 2016 at 10:22am

Factory Girl wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:51am:
Christie for Secretary of Agriculture!  He sure is a good eater...yikes!


I still think Transportation Secretary is a better fit for him (ala Bridgegate)  ....

....but I see your point, back in 1985 I attended one of the inaugural balls for Reagan in D.C. and afterwards was invited to a private function by the Secretary of Agriculture (John Block I think it was)...the food spread there was better than the Bellagio Buffet in Las Vegas.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 21st, 2016 at 10:42am
Mad Dog Mattis for Defense Secretary.

What the fuck is a line in the sand ?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Nov 21st, 2016 at 2:06pm
A line in the sand is very easily erased...it is a metaphor for a warning without consequences or repercussions.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 21st, 2016 at 3:30pm

Factory Girl wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 2:06pm:
A line in the sand is very easily erased...it is a metaphor for a warning without consequences or repercussions.


OK thanks, but I was alluding to Gen. Mattis' no-nonsense, take-no-prisoners style of leadership.


Dude's a modern-day Patton:


1. “I don’t lose any sleep at night over the potential for failure. I cannot even spell the word.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

James MattisAP
2. “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.”
(Business Insider)

3. “I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

4. “Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they’re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

FlickrFlickr
5. “Marines don’t know how to spell the word defeat.”
(Business Insider)

6. “Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

7. “The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

8. “You are part of the world’s most feared and trusted force. Engage your brain before you engage your weapon.”
(Mattis’ Letter To 1st Marine Division)

Mattis in 2006 / FlickrGen. Mattis in 2006 / Flickr
9. “There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, cunning, obedience and alertness, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim.”
(Business Insider)

10. “No war is over until the enemy says it’s over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote.”
(Defense News)

11. “There is nothing better than getting shot at and missed. It’s really great.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

12. “You cannot allow any of your people to avoid the brutal facts. If they start living in a dream world, it’s going to be bad.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

Gen. Mattis and Gen. Dempsey / FlickrGen. Mattis and Gen. Dempsey / Flickr
13. “You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn’t wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway. So it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it’s quite fun to fight them, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right up there with you. I like brawling.”
(CNN)

14. “I’m going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years.”
(San Diego Union Tribune)

15. “Demonstrate to the world there is ‘No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy’ than a U.S. Marine.”
(Mattis’ Letter To 1st Marine Division)

16. “Fight with a happy heart and strong spirit”
(Mattis’ Letter To 1st Marine Division)


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/the-best-from-mad-dog-mattis/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 21st, 2016 at 3:53pm
Go Spuds, go.  Super party animal!

I forget what thread this is.  But it's pretty clear where America is headed: balls out Civil War II.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:19pm

Marie wrote on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:26pm:
Oh good grief..... let it go.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz21w48VOs4

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:23pm




<  -------------   ******   { " I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "   }   ******





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 6:13am
Here we go, ya'll:


https://youtu.be/7xX_KaStFT8

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:09am
One thing is clear:  you are no longer an America by birthright.  Henceforth, in the New America, you will have to make a periodic and affirmative showing that you possess the qualities (e.g., IQ, nads, etc.) necessary to be considered a real American.  Many of you will fail, some miserably.  To those of you who succeed, I welcome you to our future.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 9:22pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:09am:
One thing is clear:  you are no longer an America by birthright.  Henceforth, in the New America, you will have to make a periodic and affirmative showing that you possess the qualities (e.g., IQ, nads, etc.) necessary to be considered a real American.  Many of you will fail, some miserably.  To those of you who succeed, I welcome you to our future.



<  -------   *******   {  "   I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!    "   }   **********





YES !!!!!  : 







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:29am
They don't allow liquor sales on Election Day in the US until polls close.  The government decided long ago that the citizenry could not be trusted to stay sober long enough to vote.  And for some reason, the government considers sober votes better than drunk votes.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bluzdude on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:47am

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:29am:
They don't allow liquor sales on Election Day in the US until polls close.  The government decided long ago that the citizenry could not be trusted to stay sober long enough to vote.  And for some reason, the government considers sober votes better than drunk votes.


That's not true....at least in California....but then again, look how California votes...
:forfucksake

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:55am

Bluzdude wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 9:29am:
They don't allow liquor sales on Election Day in the US until polls close.  The government decided long ago that the citizenry could not be trusted to stay sober long enough to vote.  And for some reason, the government considers sober votes better than drunk votes.


That's not true....at least in California....but then again, look how California votes...
:forfucksake



Correct! NOLA is 24/7/365 wide open for alcohol, and have some of the most colorful politicos around.  :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 12:16pm
You guys are lucky.  I was running around try to find some quality booze before I showed up.  I had to bust into my neighbors basement.  But it was too late.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:23pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:09am:
One thing is clear:  you are no longer an America by birthright.  Henceforth, in the New America, you will have to make a periodic and affirmative showing that you possess the qualities (e.g., IQ, nads, etc.) necessary to be considered a real American.  Many of you will fail, some miserably.  To those of you who succeed, I welcome you to our future.


this ain't making America great again.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:29pm
Moonie, you need some Trump wine...or Trump vodka...voting with a clear conscience.

In any event, Trump allegedly does not drink.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:45pm
moonie ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 4:05pm
I'm going to puke.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 8:43pm

Factory Girl wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:29pm:
Moonie, you need some Trump wine...or Trump vodka...voting with a clear conscience.

In any event, Trump allegedly does not drink.



************   " SIGH !!!!  "   **************





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNiGjsxEkc






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 24th, 2016 at 5:56am
Riffy must be in shock.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 24th, 2016 at 9:36am
We need to raise the national IQ to remain competitive with high IQ powers like China, Japan and Russia.  Be careful who you reproduce with.  And if your IQ is below 110, consider being abstinatical.  Do it for America.  We could eliminate retardation in a generation with proper sexual behavior.  This is Biblical.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Donald J. Trump on Nov 24th, 2016 at 11:19am
God bless you all this Thanksgiving holiday! And for the next holiday (the one about Jesus), feel free to order the one you love the gift that keeps on giving!

(Except stay away from the product reviews down at the bottom of the page. They were undoubtedly written by the liberal media.)

https://www.amazon.com/Trump-America-Great-Collectible-Ornament/dp/B01N67D8HO/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 24th, 2016 at 12:29pm

Donald J. Trump wrote on Nov 24th, 2016 at 11:19am:
God bless you all this Thanksgiving holiday! And for the next holiday (the one about Jesus), feel free to order the one you love the gift that keeps on giving!

(Except stay away from the product reviews down at the bottom of the page. They were undoubtedly written by the liberal media.)

https://www.amazon.com/Trump-America-Great-Collectible-Ornament/dp/B01N67D8HO/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8



"We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."

DAMN !!


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 24th, 2016 at 2:50pm
I predict Trump will lose all interest in the stuff within a year.

No one can match my fervent patriotism and Christianity.  I am simply the best at both, at least on this board.  Ask me anything about god or America, and I'll sort you out, set you straight.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 24th, 2016 at 7:57pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 24th, 2016 at 2:50pm:
I predict Trump will lose all interest in the stuff within a year.

No one can match my fervent patriotism and Christianity.  I am simply the best at both, at least on this board.  Ask me anything about god or America, and I'll sort you out, set you straight.











Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 24th, 2016 at 8:18pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 22nd, 2016 at 7:09am:
One thing is clear:  you are no longer an America by birthright.  Henceforth, in the New America, you will have to make a periodic and affirmative showing that you possess the qualities (e.g., IQ, nads, etc.) necessary to be considered a real American.  Many of you will fail, some miserably.  To those of you who succeed, I welcome you to our future.




<  -------- Some Guy  ..... ?!   .... !!!!!   :




http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-environmental-reset-1480023333



" Donald Trump’s Environmental Reset "

" Republicans look to liberate U.S. energy from destructive green regulations.  "



By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" Anti-Trump protests continue to swell across the country, but what best sums up the president-elect’s challenge was a Monday night tantrum barely noticed by the press. Climate activists in Washington, D.C., waited until dark, then beamed huge images onto the headquarters of the Environmental Protection Agency. Their demand? That Donald Trump pick someone other than Myron Ebell to lead the EPA.

Mr. Ebell is a whip-smart policy wonk at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. He has spent years at the epicenter of conservative efforts to combat backward environmental regulations. His appointment to manage Mr. Trump’s EPA transition team was an inspired and encouraging surprise.

On the left it provoked a complete meltdown. Environmental groups whipped up tens of thousands of petition signatures demanding Mr. Trump ditch the “climate denier.” Students at Georgetown and Harvard demonstrated against the appointment. There’s even an online hashtag: #RebelAgainstEbell.

The political class is obsessed with whom Mr. Trump will pick for plum cabinet posts: the future secretaries of state, defense, Treasury. Inside activist groups and corporate boardrooms, the preoccupation is who will occupy the positions with the greatest bearing on the economic bottom line: the secretaries of labor, health and human services, energy.

The biggest battle lines will be drawn over the dismantling of Mr. Obama’s environmental regime. This is where the president’s crushing rules have arguably done the most broad-based damage to the economy. It is also where the progressive left is most organized—and most emotional.

Lifting environmental burdens is (along with tax reform) where conservatives see the most sweeping upside for growth. Talk to Mr. Trump’s economic advisers: They understand that the advent of fracking and new drilling techniques—the ability to tap untold reserves of oil and gas—represents a global paradigm shift that can reset America’s economy and foreign dealings. President Obama’s willful decision to ignore this was as if Bill Clinton had opted the country out of the internet revolution.


Mr. Trump gets that. The early audacity of his thinking, as represented by Mr. Ebell, has inspired the right, even as it has incensed the left. For years Republicans have been running scared on the environment, cringing under attacks from activists, constantly seeking to look “green” and play down their energy ambitions.

Not so Mr. Trump, the first Republican president in the modern era who seems willing to turn the formula on its head and adopt a position in keeping with other energy-rich nations. The Norways and Canadas of the world embrace their energy abundance and make it an economic priority, even as they also take steps to protect air and water quality. That appears to be the Trump approach.

This is a man who reportedly has put Forrest Lucas, co-founder of Lucas Oil, on his short list to lead the Interior Department. Or, if not Mr. Lucas, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Or Oklahoma oilman Harold Hamm. Mr. Hamm is also potentially up for secretary of energy, as is venture capitalist Robert Grady. Then there is Mr. Ebell, who could be in line to run the EPA.

The left is so dumbfounded, it can barely formulate a reply. Asked in a Nov. 9 article how he would respond to the Trump administration, 350.org founder Bill McKibben told the Washington Post, he didn’t know: “The path forward is not all that clear to me.” The president of Friends of the Earth, Erich Pica, was more forthcoming, saying that the movement would go back to the anti-Bush playbook of utilizing “the courts, the Senate filibuster,” hounding appointees and galvanizing “the public to take action.”

That pressure seems to be having some effect. During the campaign Mr. Trump vowed to pull the U.S. out of the Paris climate accords, but this week he backtracked and said he would keep an “open mind” about staying in.

All the more reason why Mr. Trump needs to appoint bold and unconventional advisers, who will reset baseline thinking and won’t back down under unrelenting pressure. The president-elect’s promise to “cancel job-killing restrictions on the production of American energy” will require sweeping action: Ending involvement in the Paris accord. Squashing the Clean Power Plan. Zeroing out clean-energy subsidies. Reopening federal drilling areas. Killing regulations on flaring and fracking. Opening up exports. Approving vital infrastructure like pipelines and liquid natural gas terminals.

All of this is eminently possible. Mr. Obama knew the public wasn’t behind his expensive regulations, so he went around Congress to implement most of his agenda by executive fiat. That makes it easier to undo. At the same time, the sort of dramatic reset that Mr. Trump contemplates will require the cooperation of Congress and the backing of the public, both of which will be nervous. The new administration will need to intellectually engage the activists and unabashedly sell reform.

Mr. Trump’s choices for the Energy Department, the Interior Department and the EPA will show whether he is serious about busting up Washington’s liberal mind-set and jump-starting the economy. These are the picks—and the confirmation fights—to watch.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Nov 25th, 2016 at 8:32am
Jill Stien's recount effort is going to be interesting.... Seems Trump was right, the election was rigged.
If you listen to Trump closely, he tells you everything, his lack of filter gives everything away. In other words, he's got no poker skills. He's all bravado, no bluff...
He's like Josh on LSD!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:25pm
There is something very wrong with politics in America.  The absurdity and intransigence.  A lot of it feeds that childish desire to feel persecuted.  And a lot of it is that many Americans are total fucking retards.  I don't see how to fix that latter problem.

How many of you are retards?  Be honest.  Just chime in and admit you are a fucking idiot.  I'll publish the list, if I have to.  I thought I'd give some of you nitwits a chance to get out in front of it.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 25th, 2016 at 7:33pm

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 6:25pm:
There is something very wrong with politics in America.  The absurdity and intransigence.  A lot of it feeds that childish desire to feel persecuted.  And a lot of it is that many Americans are total fucking retards.  I don't see how to fix that latter problem.

How many of you are retards?  Be honest.  Just chime in and admit you are a fucking idiot.  I'll publish the list, if I have to.  I thought I'd give some of you nitwits a chance to get out in front of it.



moonie ?


https://youtu.be/FEYavriPsfs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:13am
So Trump is skipping his intelligence briefings. Why would the president need to go to those anyway?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-has-attended-only-two-intel-briefings-steep-drop-n687916

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:17pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:57pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.



Thank you!

Can't think of a better sendoff for someone who facilitated a situation that nearly resulted in nuclear annihilation.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 26th, 2016 at 1:02pm
I was being sarcastic, but: whatever, dude: we love the Stones.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 26th, 2016 at 2:02pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 1:02pm:
I was being sarcastic, but: whatever, dude: we love the Stones.


Love your sarcasm MrPleasant, always have.  :smilestu

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 26th, 2016 at 8:32pm

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 26th, 2016 at 9:19pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 8:32pm:

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.




Drunk posting will make you post twice, at least that's the way I I see see it it.  :pullanolte

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 26th, 2016 at 11:08pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Well...he could not have been all that bad...it was reported his last words were
"Suficiente con los jodidos caballos de guerra"

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 27th, 2016 at 9:27am


" ...it was reported his last words were
"Suficiente con los jodidos caballos de guerra"[/size]   "




****************************************************************






What in the Frig does THAT mean ?



Wait  !!!!!  ....    Does it translate to  :  "  The Rolling Stones get a Kennedy Center Honour next year ?  "



********************   {  " YES !!!!!  "   }  *****************


Elton John has one  ....
Paul McCartney has one ...
The Who has one ...
Led Zeppelin has one ...

https://www.kennedy-center.org/pages/specialevents/honors



" I Love You All !!!!




'kins ® ™ ©

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 27th, 2016 at 10:30am

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:57pm:

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.



Thank you!

Can't think of a better sendoff for someone who facilitated a situation that nearly resulted in nuclear annihilation.




" There was little optimism that that extra day would bring peace .  ' Saturday night was almost the blackest of all ,  ' Schlesinger was to recall . ' Unless Khrushchev came through in a few hours  , the meeting of the Executive Committee on Sunday might well face the most terrible decisions . '  Strategic Air Command bombers were circling endlessly over the Arctic that night : the crews of other bombers were being handed their target packets for bombing runs they might have to make the next day  ; American destroyers were circling in the Atlantic  -- with ,  a few fathoms below them  , enemy submarines ; the Fifth Marine Expeditionary Brigade began boarding ships to invasion staging areas  ; watching the sun set that Saturday night , McNamara wondered if he would live out the week . '  But the next morning , a golden autumn Sunday morning  ,  '  the Grozny suddenly came to a dead stop , and the nine o' clock newscasts were interrupted by a bulletin : Khrushchev had accepted Kennedy's terms , the no-missiles , no- invasion letter . The letter ended with this salutation to John Fitzgerald Kennedy : ' with respect for you , Khrushchev . '
     ExComm met that Sunday at eleven . When the President walked into the room , everyone stood up  , standing silently until he sat down .  As he began the meeting , there was not  , Ted Sorensen recalls , ' a trace of excitement or even exultation ' in his bearing .

It had been no oversight that Lyndon Johnson was not invited to that crucial conference in the Oval Office on Saturday evening . "


    







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 27th, 2016 at 11:59am
     " On Sunday , after the final ExComm meeting , Jack Kennedy said to his brother that this was the night he should go to the theater , like Lincoln after the Union victory in the Civil War , and Robert  -- the subject of assassination having been raised , and with it  , of course  , the reminder that the Vice President would thereupon become President  --- said that  ' if he was going to the theater , I would go too , having witnessed the inability of Johnson to make any contribution of any kind during all the conversations . ' In later years , he would recall Johnson's displeasure ' with what we were doing , ' the way , in Bobby's words , that  'he would circulate and whine and complain about our being weak , ' while never making ' any suggestions or recommendations ' himself . The people who  ' had participated in all these discussions , ' Robert Kennedy was to say , ' were bright and energetic people . We had perhaps amongst the most able in the country , and if any one of half a dozen of them were President the world would have been very likely plunged in a catastrophic war . ' Lyndon Johnson , he would make clear , was one of that half dozen  . Jack Kennedy , as always , was more oblique , but , through the means of another  ,  shorter  ,   list   , he also made his feelings clear . Recalls his friend , the journalist Bartlett : ' He said after the Cuban Missile Crisis that there were three men on that Executive Committee that he would be glad to see become President of the United States : McNamara , Dillon , and his brother Bobby . He said that a couple of times . ' Three men whom John F. Kennedy would be happy to have succeed him as President . The Vice President was not one of them . 
     ' You must know as well or better than I President Kennedy's steadily diminishing opinion of him , '  Jacqueline Kennedy would ,  years after the assassination  ,  write in a private letter to Ted Sorensen .   ' As his term progressed , he grew more and more concerned about what would happen if LBJ ever became President .  He was truly frightened at the prospect . ' " 






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by MrPleasant on Nov 27th, 2016 at 12:36pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Starbuck wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 8:32pm:

MrPleasant wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 12:26pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



Classy.




Drunk posting will make you post twice, at least that's the way I I see see it it.  :pullanolte



True.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child in Wonderland on Nov 27th, 2016 at 2:04pm
Joey?


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Paranoid Android on Nov 27th, 2016 at 2:40pm

Joey wrote on Nov 27th, 2016 at 9:27am:
What in the Frig does THAT mean ?



Wait  !!!!!  ....    Does it translate to  :  "  The Rolling Stones get a Kennedy Center Honour next year ?  "



Close...but no CEE-GAR AMIGO!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 27th, 2016 at 3:47pm
Trump will solve the Mormon problem that's been plaguing us since that fucking dickhead Angel Moroni unearthed the third Bible.

Tough election, yinz.  I understand why many are horrified with the thought of Trump.  Hillary Clinton wasn't much of a choice either.   But maybe  Trump will take the job seriously and not cater to the retards and nut jobs that make up a lot of the GOP.

Mondo.

Whete is that one thing?  Bulf?

I heard Fidel Castro died.  As far a dictators go, he was pretty cool.  Cigar, running around in fatigues, skydiving.  That Zevon Havana vibe.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Nov 27th, 2016 at 7:09pm
The good news!

http://www.businessinsider.com/abstaining-from-alcohol-significantly-shortens-life-2013-12?utm_content=buffere5f6a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The bad news, moonpoof, is that Trump is surrounding himself with so many far right wankers that Romney looks like the reasonable one. You know it's true!


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 28th, 2016 at 9:16am
moonie ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 28th, 2016 at 9:22am

sirmoonie wrote on Nov 27th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
Trump will solve the Mormon problem that's been plaguing us since that fucking dickhead Angel Moroni unearthed the third Bible.

Tough election, yinz.  I understand why many are horrified with the thought of Trump.  Hillary Clinton wasn't much of a choice either.   But maybe  Trump will take the job seriously and not cater to the retards and nut jobs that make up a lot of the GOP.

Mondo.

Whete is that one thing?  Bulf?

I heard Fidel Castro died.  As far a dictators go, he was pretty cool.  Cigar, running around in fatigues, skydiving.  That Zevon Havana vibe.





!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 28th, 2016 at 10:48am

Starbuck wrote on Nov 27th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
The good news!

http://www.businessinsider.com/abstaining-from-alcohol-significantly-shortens-life-2013-12?utm_content=buffere5f6a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The bad news, moonpoof, is that Trump is surrounding himself with so many far right wankers that Romney looks like the reasonable one. You know it's true!





Me Arse !!!!!  :



President Donald J. Trump is trusting his own instincts   --- they have served him very well so far :)




" He is going to be better than the ' whole bunch ' of them ( Jefferson , Lincoln ,  FDR  , Washington , .... ALL of them  )   , Ronnie !!!!!!!!   "




LBJoeykins ®

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Nov 28th, 2016 at 12:48pm

Starbuck wrote on Nov 27th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
The good news!

The bad news, moonpoof, is that Trump is surrounding himself with so many far right wankers that Romney looks like the reasonable one. You know it's true!



Romney is an admitted Mormon.  If Trump lets him in the administration, Trump is a fraud and he's everything he said he was running against.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Nov 28th, 2016 at 6:15pm
Yo sniff, don't ride that horse stuck on dumbfuck.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 28th, 2016 at 10:08pm




!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Telecaster on Nov 28th, 2016 at 11:08pm

leonid wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 8:57pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

Factory Girl wrote on Jul 30th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've no knowledge of telecaster.  I need to be officially briefed.


The biggest terminal blowhard this board has ever seen.  Think of every pseudo-conservative cliched slogan there is - think Riffhard on Ritalin - and you may get close to what Telecaster posted like.  He had quite a following of low IQ twits in his heyday, but that came crashing down in what is now a case study in fatuous hypocrisy.  Now he's retroactively scorned as a Mormon or a leper or something like that.  I heard he drank like a girl too.



Moonie, bro...
Tell someone to get Riffy on the horn. We need him back here to add some spice to the forum. Maybe Starbuck can get him back. The Stones are about to release a brand new album according to Ian. Sirstonesalot is rumored to be playing tambourine on at least 18 of the new tracks. Gonna be huge.

:pullanolte


Damn. Looks like I picked the worst username ever. I'm not that guy by the way. Total noob here.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 29th, 2016 at 9:33am
Joey ?



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Nov 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm
Trump to reveal deal to keep nearly 1,000 Carrier jobs in Indiana


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/29/trump-to-reveal-deal-to-keep-nearly-1000-carrier-corp-jobs-in-indiana-sources.html

Cool! Get it?  :loloncemore

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 29th, 2016 at 9:04pm




<  -----------------    "   I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!   "





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Nov 29th, 2016 at 9:17pm

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
Trump to reveal deal to keep nearly 1,000 Carrier jobs in Indiana


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/29/trump-to-reveal-deal-to-keep-nearly-1000-carrier-corp-jobs-in-indiana-sources.html

Cool! Get it?  :loloncemore




************  " YES !!!! "  **************





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 1st, 2016 at 6:36am
‘Rock Star’ President Obama Compares Himself to Rolling Stones Frontman Mick Jagger  :blankfriggingstare1


http://heatst.com/politics/obama-mick-jagger/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 1st, 2016 at 10:33am





<  ------------- Some Guy   ..... ?!  ..... !!!!!! :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-a-team-1480551204




" Trump’s A-Team  "

" The president-elect is assembling a who’s who of conservatives for his cabinet.   "


By DANIEL HENNINGER



" The day before Thanksgiving in New York, I bumped into a Trump adviser who actually knows what is going on inside Trump Tower, as opposed to rumors inhabiting the media such as this Tuesday headline: “Trump’s Team Frays Over Romney.” The message I got was different: “It’s going to be fine. It’s going to be just fine.”

In the seven days since Thanksgiving, President-elect Trump has named the respected schools reformer Betsy DeVos from Michigan as Secretary of Education. Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, the chairman of the House Budget Committee and a committed reformer of ObamaCare, is Secretary of Health and Human Services. Elaine Chao, who was George W. Bush’s reformist Labor Secretary for eight years, is the new Secretary of Transportation.

Two businessmen will enter the cabinet. Former Goldman Sachs banker Steven Mnuchin is Treasury Secretary and Wilbur Ross, an investor in distressed industries, will be Commerce Secretary.

Retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis, one of the most able officers to serve in Iraq and later head of the U.S. Central Command, is within a hair of being Secretary of Defense.

Going deeper into the policy weeds, Mr. Trump selected Indiana Medicaid reformer Seema Verma to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid. The main Supreme Court adviser visiting Trump Tower has been Leonard Leo, executive vice president of the Federalist Society.

Bob Woodson, one of this generation’s smartest and most productive black conservatives, has been in to discuss with Mr. Trump how to make good on his campaign promise to champion the inner cities.

If instead of these individuals, the visitors to Trump Tower had been the alt-right activists of so many progressive night sweats, it would have been reported across the New York Times’ front page and on CNN round the clock, as if Godzilla and Mothra were trundling up Fifth Avenue.

Instead, the Trump transition has been talking to and appointing some of the most accomplished and serious individuals in Republican and conservative politics. Donald Trump isn’t pulling rabbits out of a hat. Somebody at team Trump has a first-rate Rolodex.

By now, it should be obvious that the Trump operation exists in two parts. One half is the operation’s face, Donald Trump. The other half is the operation behind the face. Mr. Trump’s persona has often made it difficult to take the entire Trump phenomenon seriously. That, we learned, is a mistake.


Months ago, Mr. Trump’s small team got hold of what is essentially a transition textbook—“Presidential Transition Guide” published earlier this year by the Partnership for Public Service. Its contributors worked on pre-election transitions for John McCain,Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. The Trump preparatory group began to come together in Washington last spring.

In fact, both the Trump and Clinton transition teams were in the same building at 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, a few blocks from the White House. Hillary’s people were on the 17th floor and the Trump planners were on the eighth. They rode the elevators together—and understood that one of them would fold up shop. Life is full of surprises.

This Trump transition operation is filled with specialists and veterans extending back to Ronald Reagan’s transition, such as Ed Meese. While New York conducts auditions for the cabinet’s speaking parts, the Washington policy shop is now recruiting the under-, deputy- and assistant secretaryships.


I’m told calls are arriving from solid people in the private sector who want to work on the Trump project, without pay, and then get out. That is the private-to-public expertise model created by Gov. Mitch Daniels in Indiana and followed by Govs. John Kasich in Ohio and Bill Haslam in Tennessee.

Presumably this is the intention in naming Messrs. Mnuchin and Ross. I would have preferred seeing House Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling get Treasury, on the assumption that his ability to get tax reform and the overhaul of Dodd-Frank through Congress would have all but guaranteed a revived economy and a successful first Trump term. Mr. Mnuchin will benefit from having Chairman Hensarling as a lodestar in the House.

If Mr. Trump’s foreign-policy goal is to “kill ISIS,” it would be hard to design a more effective partnership than Jim Mattis at Defense and David Petraeus at State. They know what to do and how to do it, but that’s not the most important thing.

As former commanders in Iraq, Gens. Mattis and Petraeus have seen enough sacrifice from American troops in the Middle East for two lifetimes. These are men who will not argue for committing ground troops unless the U.S. is going to win and then secure the durability of its dear investment there.

As for Kellyanne Conway’s supposed anti-Romney rampage Sunday morning, I’m more inclined to see it as Thomas Cromwell going on television to explain the requirements of loyalty to Henry VIII’s associates. "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gimmekeef on Dec 1st, 2016 at 12:17pm
Filling the swamp rather nicely.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by polytoxic on Dec 1st, 2016 at 12:44pm
No foolin'. Talk about status quo and the establishment. Mnunchin was known as the "foreclosure king" when he was at OneWest bank, taking $814 million in bailout money in 2009 to kick people out of their homes.

http://nypost.com/2009/11/25/judge-blasts-bad-bank-erases-525g-debt/

The you've got Wilbur Ross, who's made a fortune buying up distressed manufacturing companies (Steel, Textiles, Coal) -then "restructuring", which included slashing pay and benefits, and then flipping the companies to foreign firms for huge profits. He's known as the "bankruptcy king".

Real champions of the average working stiff, these guys.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Dec 1st, 2016 at 2:40pm

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 1st, 2016 at 6:36am:
‘Rock Star’ President Obama Compares Himself to Rolling Stones Frontman Mick Jagger  :blankfriggingstare1


http://heatst.com/politics/obama-mick-jagger/

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 1st, 2016 at 2:53pm
Looks like somethin' I seen on Bourbon St.  :perverted

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Dec 1st, 2016 at 9:12pm
I have brought back Riffy first and now Tele.

Has he found his shoe?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 1st, 2016 at 9:42pm




<  ------ Some Guy  ?!  .... !!!!! :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-send-their-regrets-1480638965





By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL





" Regrets? Delaware Sen. Chris Coons has a few—and not too few to mention. At the top of his list is his party’s decision in 2013 to blow up the filibuster for most presidential nominees.

“Many of us will regret that in this Congress,” a dejected Mr. Coons told CNN on Tuesday. “Because it would have been a terrific speed bump, potential emergency brake, to have in our system to slow down the confirmation of extreme nominees.”

Cue Sinatra and “My Way.” That’s how former Senate leader Harry Reid, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and President Obama ruled for eight years. They planned each charted course, each careful step. Now, they’re not finding it so amusing.

Mr. Coons is regretting giving up his tool to stop Donald Trump’s march of reformers. It’s a cabinet parade of charter-school-lovers, and law-and-order prosecutors and tax-cutters and ObamaCare-slayers, of the sort to give a good Delaware liberal night sweats. There was a day when not one of these nominees could have hoped to squeeze past a Senate filibuster. But Mr. Reid did it his way, and Mr. Trump keeps tweeting.

Former veep candidate Tim Kaine in October threatened that Republicans would be really, really sorry if they tried use what filibuster tools were left against a Hillary Clinton Supreme Court nominee. If Republicans “stonewall,” then a “Democratic Senate majority will say we’re not going to let you thwart the law,” he declared in October. Incoming Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer is now regretting that belligerence, and insisting that the Supreme Court filibuster is inviolate, and that his party never did kill it, you know, and that should count for something, and . . . blah, blah, regrets.

It would be hard to stall the confirmation process, at least after Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s regretful September news conference, the one where she stood tall and hit Republicans for refusing to confirm Mr. Obama’s end-of-the-road nominee, Merrick Garland. “This is not just some TV show [like] ‘Eight is Enough.’ Eight is not enough on the United States Supreme Court,” she railed. She’s joined in regret by the activists behind those trendy Twitter campaigns: #weneednine. #doyourjob. Bring on Mr. Trump’s own Tweetbomb: #likeyousaid.

Mr. Schumer is also regretting those dozen interviews before the election, the ones he gave as he measured his majority-leader office curtains. He explained to Politico that his party was on the verge of electoral dominance and that this meant it would have “a mandate.” He elsewhere warned all those mulish Republicans that they’d have an obligation to work with his world-dominant party. “If we’re gridlocked for another four years, the anger and sourness in the land will make that of 2016 seem tame,” he lectured.

Some might describe electoral dominance as owning the White House, and the Senate, and the House, and 33 governorships and 68 (of 98) state legislative chambers. But Mr. Schumer now regrets his definition. In a recent ABC News story, he said Mr. Trump’s victory is “not a mandate” and that his Democratic Party remains free to “go after him tooth and nail.”

At least 11 senators, led by Oregon’s Jeff Merkley would appear to regret staying silent while Mr. Reid pioneered the art of hateful speech—routinely calling opponents un-American, tax cheats, liars, losers, tools, first-class rats, and embarrassments. How else to read the senators’ recent letter to Mr. Trump complaining that he’s a big meanie? Meanies do as meanies see, and Mr. Merkley never said a peep as Mr. Reid set a new low standard for public behavior.

House Democrats, those with a brain, now regret that they didn’t can Nancy Pelosi when they could—say, back in 2010. After the liberal Mrs. Pelosi was this week elected leader again, in a rout, Arizona Rep. Kyrsten Sinema complained, and not in a shy way, that her party was doubling down on its “failed strategy of recent years.” But Ms. Sinema did nothing two years ago when Mrs. Pelosi ran unopposed after her third-straight House loss.

The entire Democratic Party is regretting its call for masses of infrastructure, now that there are indications Mr. Trump won’t do it their way. It is regretting it refused to work with Republicans on important bills, now that it’s not likely to get asked.


More than a few Democrats are regretting listening to that piper of the alt-left, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who danced them into indefensible voting records. That regret was on display this week when—despite Ms. Warren having railed against a medical-innovation bill as a giveaway to Big Pharma that made her “gag”—every member of her Massachusetts delegation voted with House Republicans to pass it. In fact, 174 Democrats ignored Ms. Warren.

Let’s hope that’s because now—as the end is near, as Mr. Obama faces his final curtain—at least some have had their share (and fill) of losing. Maybe “my way” wasn’t so smart after all.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 6:10am

Starbuck wrote on Dec 1st, 2016 at 9:12pm:
I have brought back Riffy first and now Tele.

Has he found his shoe?

what about glencar?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 4:18pm

Some Guy wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 6:10am:
what about glencar?


Still working on that one. Let me call his boss first - I'll get back to you.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 7:19pm
Telecaster is back?!  Holy fuck.  What did he do, just sit out the Obama years?  My goodness.  Heavens to Betsy.  I didn't get one of those Notifications.  Fucking thing is busted, maybe?

Does he have a job?  And I don't mean some girl's job answering phones, filing stuff, selling shoes, baking Bundt cakes, whatever that Biff used to do part-time.  Aroma-therapist.  Who knows with that guy?  You had to wonder. 

So he's back, huh?  I missed it.  I fucking missed it.  Things got a little dicey around Thanksgiving.  I was drunk in a lot of airports, getting in fights with people about Trump.

So he came back, huh?  I'll be goddamned.  I'll be a monkey's uncle.  I'll be totally honest here, I didn't think we'd see Telecaster here again, after all that went down with the Chutney ferret allegations leveled against him.

I'll be goddamned.  That guy could edit a post faster than Juggy Gales. What did he say when he came back?  He'll be looking to mince and go all post nasal drip.  Can't believe it.  Well, tell him I said "Magoo, fish."  That fucking guy.  Remember that time he tried to get all high falutin' on us?  That fucking guy.  What a ponce.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by a.completeunknown on Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:58am
Cool Calm Collected HILLARY
"I remember landing under sniper fire...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfnYQOb_lM

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 4th, 2016 at 7:34am

a.completeunknown wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:58am:
Cool Calm Collected HILLARY
"I remember landing under sniper fire...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SfnYQOb_lM



FUNNY! Thanks!  :perverted

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 4th, 2016 at 9:46am

Edith Grove wrote on Nov 26th, 2016 at 6:57am:
Good riddance to another murderous, communist dictator.
Too bad the people of Cuba are not allowed to get out and celebrate.

Rot in hell you piece of shit.



************************************************

     " And he had lost none of the quality  --  the capacity for hatred  --  that had made Joe Kennedy begin to respect him . After his brother's defeat at the Bay of Pigs , Robert Kennedy's determination to  ,  in Bowles' phrase  ,  ' get Castro ' was so intense that one of his key advisers on Cuba said he seemed to regard the failed invasion as ' an insult which needed to be redressed rather quickly . '   ' It was almost as simple as goddammit , we lost the first round , let us win the second ,  ' McGeorge Bundy was to say .  ' We were hysterical about Castro ,  '  Robert McNamara says . Setting up a special CIA operation , later code - named ' Mongoose , '  Bobby kept pushing the CIA  . Over Thanksgiving weekend in 1961 , he repeatedly telephoned CIA Director of Operations Richard Bissell at home to tell him to ' get off his ass ' on Cuba . Following Bissell's replacement by Richard Helms , Kennedy made it clear to Helms , as he records , that Castro was ' the top priority of the United States Government   -- all else is secondary  -- no time  , effort , money or manpower is to be spared . '  That directive was followed  , with the CIA ceaselessly trying to set up raids by Cuban exiles , blow up bridges and factories . There were efforts of another type as well . The CIA would carry out eight separate assassination attempts on Castro's life  , continuing into 1965  . Did Robert Kennedy authorize them  , or know about them ?  ' The Kennedys made clear their desire to  ' get rid  ' of Castro , ' Evan Thomas wrote . But did they authorize his assassination ?  ' The truth is unknowable , '  Thomas concludes . 
     Despite his coolheadedness and caution during the Cuban Missile  --- and his delicate and successful negotiations beginning a month later to free the Bay of Pigs prisoners  -- Robert Kennedy's attitude toward Castro did not change ; in April 1963 , for example  , he was proposing sending a five - hundred - man raiding party into Cuba , a proposal which somehow , luckily , faded away . Over and over during that year he would telephone Helms . ' My God , these Kennedys keep the pressure on about Castro , '  he recalls . "    






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 5th, 2016 at 6:42am
https://youtu.be/Cy1t_aXgyaE

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 5th, 2016 at 9:51am
You guys should quit with the typical Monday morning "ass-grab" around here and pay attention.  You may just learn something.

So Telecaster is back, huh?  That's got to be good news for a lot of you paradiddles.  Bombadiddles.  Diddle eye Joe to damned if I knows.

Telecaster - the prodigal son returns.  Alleged prodigal son.  Purported prodigal son. Proverbial prodigal son.  Biblicalist prodigal son.  Prodigal son of yore. 

Telecaster worked at Bagel World last I heard.  Mopsmith.  He worked the hot mops, often along the interior walls.  Hot mops, bristle mops, trash mops, sponge mops, scour mops, elbow mops, nit mops, purge mops, flat mops.  All that stuff.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:09pm

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 9:51am:
You guys should quit with the typical Monday morning "ass-grab" around here and pay attention.  You may just learn something.

So Telecaster is back, huh?  That's got to be good news for a lot of you paradiddles.  Bombadiddles.  Diddle eye Joe to damned if I knows.

Telecaster - the prodigal son returns.  Alleged prodigal son.  Purported prodigal son. Proverbial prodigal son.  Biblicalist prodigal son.  Prodigal son of yore. 

Telecaster worked at Bagel World last I heard.  Mopsmith.  He worked the hot mops, often along the interior walls.  Hot mops, bristle mops, trash mops, sponge mops, scour mops, elbow mops, nit mops, purge mops, flat mops.  All that stuff.






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 5th, 2016 at 9:10pm




<   ---------------   " I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!!   "





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGnCIdHQH0

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Dec 5th, 2016 at 9:19pm
He's a telecaster surrogate, not the real deal.

Shades of Mittney.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 5th, 2016 at 9:19pm

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 1st, 2016 at 12:17pm:
Filling the swamp rather nicely.




******************    " SIGH !!!!!   "      **************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrtMUuxzECA

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:10pm
gimmekeef get your credit card ready!!


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/12/06/kid-rock-debuts-pro-trump-clothing-line/

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:24pm
No, it's the real Tele. Has to be. He's been off learning to read.


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Dec 6th, 2016 at 10:36pm
Speaking of tele, it's old, but I came across this one the other day on the youtube. Helps to explain the history behind tele's departure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FETpdsK6AEc

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Boomy on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:01pm
Tele is back! Tele is back!

Let's meet in Chicago again!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:23am




<  ----------------   " Our Hero !!!!   "    :





Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:02am

Joey wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:23am:
<  ----------------   " Our Hero !!!!   "    :







Is that a fleur-de-lis on the back of that chair ?  :areyoufuckingserious

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:03am
Trump picks up 146 votes in the Wisconsin recount.

Thanks Jill Stein, now give back that unspent money.  :whydontcha

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:07am

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:02am:

Joey wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:23am:
<  ----------------   " Our Hero !!!!   "    :







Is that a fleur-de-lis on the back of that chair ?  :areyoufuckingserious



I believe it is Edith !!!!!!!

President Donald J. Trump will be the Greatest President of THESE United States EVER !!!!!!  ..... Better than FDR and Lincoln  ......  Better than Washington and Harry Truman  ....... Bigger than Ronnie Reagan   ......The Whole Bunch of ' em  . 



" Best Trump Yet , Ronnie !!!!   "


" Unbelievable Trump !!!!!   "


Joey Trump ™

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:28pm
I know a lot of you purported Biblicalists will disagree, but at this point in America and Russia's history, it's hard to dispute that Trump is bigger than J. Christ.  I'm just talking empirically and quantitatively.  Not qualitatively, as it's too early to tell the score there.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:48pm
Remember the one time long ago when Time put a fascist, demagogue on the cover and called him man of the year?
Oh, and They put Hitler on too...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:00pm
PDog, Hitler is one of the most beloved leaders in German history.  But most of the rest of the world despised him.  So there are significant differences vis a vis the Trump/Christ sitch.

Telecaster will back me up on this.  He knows political stuff.

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:49pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Starbuck on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:59pm
"Tele Panhandling" may win picture of the year.

Thankfully, there are not silly pictures of me floating around the inter web!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:59pm

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
PDog, Hitler is one of the most beloved leaders in German history.  But most of the rest of the world despised him.  So there are significant differences vis a vis the Trump/Christ sitch.

Telecaster will back me up on this.  He knows political stuff.








******************************************




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP1hPPFBht0&t=50s

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:06pm

Pdog wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:48pm:
Remember the one time long ago when Time put a fascist, demagogue on the cover and called him man of the year?
Oh, and They put Hitler on too...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmhpUSCpB-Y

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:19pm




<  --------------- Some Guy   ?!  .... !!!!!  :





http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-as-lady-gaga-1481154430




" Trump as Lady Gaga "

" Trump is a political performance artist, challenging what we think is normal.   "




By DANIEL HENNINGER





" It is 12:13 a.m. and the president-elect of the United States, who has just named retired Marine Gen. James Mattis as his Secretary of Defense, is watching “Saturday Night Live.” Alec Baldwin is impersonating him. The president-elect tweets: “Just tried watching Saturday Night Live - unwatchable! Totally biased, not funny and the Baldwin impersonation just can’t get any worse. Sad.”

Twenty minutes later, from the SNL set, Alec Baldwin tweets he’ll stop if the president-elect will release his tax returns.

How is it possible that a man who selects Jim Mattis for Defense on Thursday can be in a tweet smackdown with Alec Baldwin Sunday morning?

The answer is coming into view. Donald Trump is Lady Gaga.

He is a performance artist.

He is challenging what we think is normal—first for a presidential campaign and now for the presidency.

He’s Andy Warhol silk-screening nine Jackie Kennedys. You can’t do that. Oh yes he can. Currently Donald Trump is silk-screening American corporations: Ford, Carrier, Rexnord, Boeing.

Andy Warhol called his studio The Factory. Reince Priebus, Kellyanne Conway and Steve Bannon are now in Donald Trump’s Factory. Like everyone else, they’ve got to figure out what’s coming next.

Lady Gaga once talked about the doubters in an interview: “They would say, ‘This is too racy, too dance-oriented, too underground. It’s not marketable.’ And I would say, ‘My name is Lady Gaga, I’ve been on the music scene for years, and I’m telling you, this is what’s next.’ And look . . . I was right.”

Who does that sound like?

In “The Art of the Deal,” Donald Trump described what he was up to: “I play to people’s fantasies.”

Anti-Trumpers will say: Precisely. We can’t have a performance artist as president of the United States.

That’s irrelevant now.

In four years it may be possible to say that making a performance artist president was a mistake. But that will only be true if he fails. If the Trump method succeeds, even reasonably so, it will be important to understand his art from the start.

So far, the media and the comedians are stuck in pre-Trump consciousness. You’d think the comedians would get it, but getting laughs from left-wing audiences has taken a toll.

Consider two Trump tweet performances:

Jill Stein commences her preposterous recounts and the press analyzes the threat to the Trump electoral-college victory.


Suddenly, the president-elect tweets that “millions” voted illegally for Hillary. The press pivots from Jill Stein to prove, across several days, that the Trump claim is “bogus.”

Like any smart performance artist, he’s made the strait-laced audience part of his act.

One day later, @realDonald Trump tweets: “Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!”

Now he’s the Queen of Hearts. Off with their heads! And like terriers chasing another tossed ball, the media ran down every case on the subject to prove, “court rulings forbid it.”

That is true. The courts forbid it. But if it is important to comprehend a president’s mind and intentions, it will be pointless if the media does nothing more the next four years than consider its job done if it microscopically fact-checks and flyspecks everything Donald Trump tweets.

Donald Trump treats the truth as only one of several props he’s willing to use to achieve an effect. Truth sits on his workbench alongside hyperbole, sentimentality, bluster and just kidding. Use as needed.

Another important distinction: Performers merely entertain. Performance artists challenge, subvert and alter. They may be slightly crazy, but they’re crazy serious, though usually a little unclear about where they’re going.

Donald Trump’s voters believed the country was going in the wrong direction—the most powerful metric in the election. They thought he was the one person who shared their sense of wrong direction. These voters wanted to move from point A (Obama) to point B (post-Obama), and they were willing to see the facts bent if indeed they could arrive at point B, such as an improvement in their economic well-being or escape from the politically correct alt-left.

Treating the presidency as political performance art has multiple liabilities. An initially exciting performance can turn tedious. I’ve talked to Trumpians, die-hards from day one, who think the tweets worked in the campaign but not for the Oval Office. An overworked exclamation point loses its meaning!

Will Donald Trump, like Madonna, be driven to ever more outrageous public performances (“Cancel order!”) to keep the world’s attention trained on his persona? From Beijing to Washington, he’s got the world’s attention.

Some of America’s most charismatic presidents were also public performance artists who challenged and overturned status quos: Abraham Lincoln,Franklin Roosevelt,John Kennedy,Ronald Reagan. All of them knew that a successful American presidency would be measured by a totality greater than their public performances.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bluzdude on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:26pm

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
I know a lot of you purported Biblicalists will disagree, but at this point in America and Russia's history, it's hard to dispute that Trump is bigger than J. Christ.  I'm just talking empirically and quantitatively.  Not qualitatively, as it's too early to tell the score there.


You are correct!
The Donald is 6'3" (or thereabouts)
and Jesus was about 5'1"

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:07pm
https://youtu.be/fAgLnnkFOcg

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 8th, 2016 at 9:56pm

Bluzdude wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
I know a lot of you purported Biblicalists will disagree, but at this point in America and Russia's history, it's hard to dispute that Trump is bigger than J. Christ.  I'm just talking empirically and quantitatively.  Not qualitatively, as it's too early to tell the score there.


You are correct!
The Donald is 6'3" (or thereabouts)
and Jesus was about 5'1"









Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 8th, 2016 at 10:00pm




<  ------------ Some Guy    .... ?!   .... !!!!!!   :





http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-federalist-revival-1481242938




" Trump’s Federalist Revival  "

" The president-elect’s EPA pick will restore balance to the federal-state relationship. "


By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL




" Donald Trump had barely finished announcing his pick to lead the Environmental Protection Agency before the left started listing its million reasons why Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt was the worst nomination in the history of the planet: He’s an untrained anti-environmentalist. He’s a polluter. He’s a fossil-fuel fanatic, a lobbyist-lover, a climate crazy.

Mr. Pruitt is not any of those things. Here’s what he in fact is, and the real reason the left is frustrated: He’s a constitutional scholar, a federalist (and a lawyer). And for those reasons he is a sublime choice to knock down the biggest conceit of the Obama era—arrogant, overweening (and illegal) Washington rule.

We’ve lived so many years under the Obama reign that many Americans forget we are a federal republic, composed of 50 states. There isn’t a major statute on the books that doesn’t recognize this reality and acknowledge that the states are partners with—and often superior to—the federal government. That is absolutely the case with major environmental statues, from the Clean Air Act to the Clean Water Act to the Safe Drinking Water Act.

Competitive Enterprise Institute President and CEO Kent Lassman on Donald Trump’s latest cabinet pick and a broader agenda for regulatory reform. Photo: Bloomberg
Congress specifically understood in crafting each of these laws that one-size-fits all solutions were detrimental to the environment. Federal bodies like the Environmental Protection Agency traditionally and properly existed to set minimum standards, provide technical support, and engage in occasional enforcement. States, with their unique knowledge of local problems, economies and concerns, were free to innovate their own solutions.

But President Obama never held much with laws, because he failed at making them. After his first two years in office, he never could convince the Congress to pass another signature initiative. His response—and the enduring theme of his presidency—was therefore to ignore Congress and statutes, go around the partnership framework, and give his agencies authority to dictate policy from Washington. The states were demoted from partners to indentured servants. So too were any rival federal agencies that got in the EPA’s way. Example: The EPA’s pre-emptive veto of Alaska’s proposed Pebble Mine, in which it usurped Army Corps of Engineers authority.


One revealing illustration from EPA world. Under the Clean Air Act, states are allowed to craft their own implementation plans. If the EPA disapproves of a state plan, it is empowered to impose a federal one—one of the most aggressive actions the agency can take against a state, since it is the equivalent of a seizure of authority. In the entirety of the presidencies of George H.W. Bush,Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, the EPA imposed five federal implementation plans on states. By last count, the Obama administration has imposed at least 56.

Much of Mr. Pruitt’s tenure as Oklahoma’s AG was about trying to stuff federal agencies back into their legal boxes. Most of the press either never understood this, or never wanted to. When the media wrote about state lawsuits against ObamaCare or the Clean Power Plan or the Water of the United States rule, the suggestion usually was that this litigation was ideologically motivated, and a naked attempt to do what a Republican Congress could not—tank the president’s agenda.

The basis of nearly every one of these lawsuits was in fact violations of states' constitutional and statutory rights—and it is why so many of the cases were successful. It was all a valiant attempt to force the federal government to follow the law. And it has been a singular Pruitt pursuit.

Almost immediately after his 2010 election in Oklahoma, the new attorney general set up a “federalism unit” within his department to more effectively combat federal overreach. His expertise in this subject was one reason why, early in the Republican primary, Jeb Bush tapped him for a national role in his campaign, serving as the lead on a “Restoring Federalism Task Force.”

And it is clear that this is the back-to-basics pitch Mr. Pruitt made to Mr. Trump in his interview, and that Mr. Trump absolutely understood the importance. In announcing his nomination, the president-elect took care to note that Mr. Pruitt was an “expert in constitutional law” and that his job would be to restore the “EPA’s essential mission.”

Which is exactly the reform the EPA needs. The agency doesn’t need a technically trained environmentalist at its head, since it is already bubbling over with green regulations. It doesn’t need a climate warrior, as Congress has never passed a climate law, and so the EPA has no mandate to meddle there. What it needs is a lawyer, one with the knowledge of how to cut the agency back to its proper role—restoring not just an appropriate legal partnership with the states, but also with other federal bodies. One who reminds agency staff that the EPA was not created to oppose growth and development.

If Mr. Pruitt does this successfully, and on the way crushes the current president’s legacy, Mr. Obama will have only himself to blame. His abuse of federal power helped elect a new generation of state attorneys general and Washington Republicans passionately devoted to a states’ rights agenda. They’ll be advising Mr. Trump not just on environmental policy, but on health care, labor policy, entitlement reform. Say hello to the federalist revival.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:35am
Where is this going to go with Telecaster back?  He was more the uniter than divider type.  He may push the thread back into a more reasoned, analytical mode, where opinion is backed by fact, rather than hyperbole and buffoonish attempts at rhetorical questions.  He was no retardicalist, like some posters I could mention.

Bangadiddle.  Chackajack, smackjack, chiselwhack.  Where are the anthems of our youth?  Soldier on.  The price of failure is urine.  The price of victory is nothing.  - Obfuscious -

Trump will steamroll anyone in his path.  His twits are ascerbic.  I truly enjoyed watching him end the career of Rafael Cruz, and laugh about it.  It was Caligulaic.

Telecaster needs a dime, brother.  Can anyone moof a dime?

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by leonid on Dec 11th, 2016 at 9:22pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:24am

FUNNY !!!!!!  :)




Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:26am
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time%20left%20until%20Obama%20leaves%20office

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Bluzdude on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:46am

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:26am:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time left until Obama leaves office


He can still do a lot of damage in that time

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 12th, 2016 at 12:13pm

Boomy wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 11:01pm:
Tele is back! Tele is back!

Let's meet in Chicago again!







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 12th, 2016 at 1:11pm
Silence from the liberals since Telecaster came back, Joey.  They know they are no match for the biting wit, vast knowledge, and insight of "the 'Caster Man."

Together, Trump and Putin are going to clean this lousy country up.  Scrub it clean of the stain of neo-progressive-liberalismness.  We are properly situated on all fours for The New America.  Revamped with proper imagery and calls to arms!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 12th, 2016 at 1:18pm

Bluzdude wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:46am:

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 8:26am:
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=263&iso=20170120T00&msg=Time left until Obama leaves office


He can still do a lot of damage in that time


"J" keys will be missing from keyboards everywhere !

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 12th, 2016 at 4:52pm
" Together, Trump and Putin are going to clean this lousy country up.  Scrub it clean of the stain of neo-progressive-liberalismness.  We are properly situated on all fours for The New America.  Revamped with proper imagery and calls to arms ! "



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Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Voodoo Child in Wonderland on Dec 12th, 2016 at 5:00pm

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:02pm

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
I know a lot of you purported Biblicalists will disagree, but at this point in America and Russia's history, it's hard to dispute that Trump is bigger than J. Christ.  I'm just talking empirically and quantitatively.  Not qualitatively, as it's too early to tell the score there.










Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 12th, 2016 at 9:10pm




<  ------ Some Guy   .... ?!   .... !!!!!!!    :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-1980-and-2016-have-in-common-1481491067


" What 1980 and 2016 Have in Common  "

" Like the Reagan and Thatcher revolutions, Trump and Brexit are reactions to stagnation.   "


By MICHAEL SOLON


" Just as Margaret Thatcher’s ascendance in 1979 foreshadowed Ronald Reagan’s in 1980, so the British vote to exit from the European Union earlier this year presaged Donald Trump’s triumph. The two nations with the longest traditions of liberty—the United Kingdom and the United States—both have a renewed chance to reclaim their freedom from overzealous regulators and international institutions, which have served government interests but let down average citizens.

Since 2008, the largest developed economies, in an effort to build financial stability and economic prosperity, have engaged in unprecedented coordination of financial regulation, monetary policy and business taxation. What the G-7 nations got instead was the weakest economic growth, the largest surge in government debt, the riskiest monetary expansion and the gravest deflationary pressures of the postwar era.

Yet Brexit and the Trump administration could help cast off these international entanglements and reverse the Europeanization of the two economies. If they do, the U.K. and U.S. may demonstrate how greater freedom and limited government can restore domestic prosperity and stability—as Thatcher and Reagan did a generation ago.

After the 2008 financial crisis, the G-7 massively expanded international coordination. The Financial Stability Forum was expanded into the Financial Stability Board, charged with integrating the monetary policy of central banks and supervising financial institutions such as banks, insurers and asset managers. The G-20 worked to protect government revenues through the Base Erosion and Profit Shifting project.

The result? Since 2007 the public debt of the G-7 nations, excluding sober Canada and Germany, has leapt to 130% of gross domestic product from 52%, according to each nation’s own reports. The EU’s monetary base has doubled, the U.K.’s is up 350%, and America’s and Japan’s have increased nearly fourfold since 2008. Real GDP growth in the full G-7 has averaged 0.8% from 2008-15—one-fourth the average in the prior quarter-century.

Massive debt and monetary excess have delivered stagnation and deflation. The G-7 guardians have failed by their own metrics of safety and soundness and their stated goals of prosperity and fiscal responsibility. Despite unsuccessful rescue plans and drained emergency measures, they never asked what went wrong.

The rescue failed because growth wasn’t the ultimate goal. In late 2008, President Obama’s new chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said that “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” He was signaling that the White House saw an opening to use the crisis to expand the role of government. Where America led, others followed. Long after the crisis had passed, G-7 authorities pursued debt and monetary expansion along with command-and-control powers. The governments won but their economies, currencies, investors, savers and workers lost.

The U.S. government has helped itself in debt financing, paying almost the same interest costs today as it did in 2007, despite almost tripling the publicly held debt. At the same time, bureaucrats won arbitrary and self-serving power over financial services. International regulators now override national and state laws without authority or input, turning domestic “independent regulators” into puppets. Political commissars embedded in banks own no shares yet veto board decisions. Money-market rules burden equities and public-purpose bonds, but favor federal debt. So do swap collateral rules and Basel rules on liquidity and capital.

The list goes on: Dodd-Frank’s Volcker rule threatens liquidity in market-making operations but exempts U.S. government securities. Housing regulators again proclaim that the government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have a “duty to serve” low-income buyers by underwriting higher risk mortgages. International regulators direct insurers to invest in public infrastructure, proclaiming the profitability of these projects when experience demonstrates otherwise. Ubiquitous capital requirements force financial institutions to buy highly leveraged government debt that pays ultralow returns.

Meanwhile, America’s punitive 35% corporate tax rate—the highest in the developed world—has discouraged U.S. firms from investing at home and sets a global tax floor to stabilize government revenues and foster government growth. The result is average U.S. GDP growth of only 2.1% since 2010—40% less than the administration’s projected 3.6%. According to my firm’s analysis of Congressional Budget Office projections, that dismal growth rate has taken a $9.5 trillion bite out of U.S. GDP since 2010—$29,400 on average for every American.

With President Obama making the world safe for governments to overtax, overregulate and overstimulate, money has lost its freedom to flee from government excess. As a natural result, such excesses have surged.

Because they feared that centrally coordinating taxes, regulations and monetary policy would lead to abuse, America’s Founding Fathers limited federal power. They intended a union where most regulation and taxation was done by the states, with a hard currency backed by gold. Competition between regulatory and tax systems forced government to serve people’s needs or risk triggering a shoe-leather response. Where federal laws did apply, they were specific prohibitions, not broad grants of arbitrary power.

President Obama and his partners in Brussels have attempted to impose at the international level the same centralized, arbitrary power that now exists in Washington. The results have been weak growth and electoral rebellion. But this wave of overreach may have crested. As government controls and excesses recede under Brexit and President Trump, prosperity and stability should return the way they did under Thatcher and Reagan.   "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Pdog on Dec 13th, 2016 at 3:35pm

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
PDog, Hitler is one of the most beloved leaders in German history.  But most of the rest of the world despised him.  So there are significant differences vis a vis the Trump/Christ sitch.

Telecaster will back me up on this.  He knows political stuff.


Hitler did win the popular vote...

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 13th, 2016 at 9:40pm

Starbuck wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:59pm:
"Tele Panhandling" may win picture of the year.

Thankfully, there are not silly pictures of me floating around the inter web!






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrtMUuxzECA

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 13th, 2016 at 9:49pm

gimmekeef wrote on Dec 1st, 2016 at 12:17pm:
Filling the swamp rather nicely.







Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by gorda on Dec 13th, 2016 at 10:56pm

Pdog wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 3:35pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:00pm:
PDog, Hitler is one of the most beloved leaders in German history.  But most of the rest of the world despised him.  So there are significant differences vis a vis the Trump/Christ sitch.

Telecaster will back me up on this.  He knows political stuff.


Hitler did win the popular vote...
The Holocaust was real!  WARNING: Graphic footage of Jewish victims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxX_OP0G1M


Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:30pm



<  ----- Some Guy   .... ?!   .... !!!!!!!!!   :



http://www.wsj.com/articles/steal-this-election-1481759796




" Steal This Election "

" Abbie Hoffman wrote ‘Steal This Book.’ Democrats are doing the 2016 update.   "


By DANIEL HENNINGER




" A serious person might ask: Why did John Podesta, the Democratic Party, and various of its media affiliates head into the fever swamps after Donald Trump won the election?

We knew months ago that the Trump phenomenon could drive women mad and make grown men weep, but how to explain the adoption of a Tom Clancy conspiracy, to wit: Vladimir Putin, using hacker slaves in a Kremlin basement, stole the election for Mr. Trump? Therefore let’s sequester the 538 folks from the Electoral College in a safe house for a CIA briefing before they vote to validate the results of the 2016 election.

Several explanations press into view, the simplest being . . . embarrassment.

Mr. Podesta and his associates lost the election, or at least the one that has been deciding U.S. presidential results since George Washington carried the Electoral College vote in 1789. (Gen. Washington got 69 votes, John Adams 34.)

This year’s loss happened in large part because the Hillary campaign ignored Bill Clinton’s advice to pursue the blue-collar vote that won him the presidency. The Clinton campaign thought Barack Obama’s “coalition of the ascendant” would win a third straight time. Staring out across the U.S. political map today, they look now like the coalition of the descendant.

Little surprise that the people responsible for this debacle are filling the skies with Putin-elected-Trump flak to divert eyes from why they lost states they should have won.

Another, more plausible explanation would be the belief among Democrats that the Trump victory is a temporary political bubble.

Mr. Trump won by gaining the support of les deplorables who formerly voted Democrat or who had stopped voting altogether after losing faith in the system. That is a thin, volatile presidential base.

If President Trump doesn’t deliver prosperity that satisfies these new voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, they’ll abandon the Trump Republicans. Then, like Silly Putty, the Democrats’ Blue Wall of electoral-vote states will reform in 2020.

At the moment, Mr. Trump is doing one-offs to animate the base, such as pistol-whipping Carrier and Rexnord. His more durable strategy is dropping the corporate tax rate to 15% and liberating capital investment across all economic sectors, something the Trump business troika—Rex Tillerson,Steven Mnuchin and Gary Cohn—knows has more carry than, well, Carrier.

If Mr. Trump consolidates his election support with material progress, Republicans could have a governing coalition for many election cycles. One of the election’s most intriguing footnotes is that Mr. Trump increased support among blacks and Hispanics over the 2012 result by 2% each. That wasn’t supposed to happen. It will happen again if this president delivers to these marginalized Americans what Barack Obama only promised.

So yes, the losers in 2016 have an incentive to jam the possibility of a successful Trump presidency. Still, one has to ask: Why this? Why are the Democrats resorting to the goofball gambit of asking Electoral College electors to steal the election for Hillary Clinton?

The answer is because that’s how this wing of the Democratic Party does politics. The progressive Democratic demonstrators that filled Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower after they lost is the same party wing that rioted in 1968 in Chicago outside their own party’s convention.

Among the leaders of the Democratic street politicians back then was Abbie Hoffman—activist, radical, marketing genius.

For Democrats of that generation—which is the Podesta and Hillary and Bernie generation—Abbie Hoffman was their Michael Moore. Abbie summed up his view of politics with a book titled, “Steal This Book.” Many did.

Now Michael Moore is exhorting thousands of bereaved and angry Democrats to descend on Washington next month to “disrupt the Inauguration.”

All I can say is: Do it!

Something in the post-1968 Democratic genetic code is always on the brink of tipping into anarchy. Most American voters become uncomfortable when they see an Abbie Hoffman or Michael Moore cavorting in the streets with the country’s politics. Almost always, voters make Democrats pay a price for conducting politics by extra-political means.


After the 1968 Democratic convention, many Democrats believed the party had to move forcefully left, just as Elizabeth Warren,Bernie Sanders,Keith Ellison and various comedians are urging the party to do now.

In 1972, the party nominated Sen. George McGovern, a man of the left. Sen. McGovern got 17 electoral votes. Richard Nixon got the rest.

Shrewd Democrats then found their way to a strategy of nominating Southern governors no one had heard of, such as Jimmy Carter in 1976. He won, barely.

In 1984, Democrats reverted to a progressive liberal, Sen. Walter Mondale, who got 13 electoral votes.

In 1992 they returned to a centrist-seeming Southern governor, Bill Clinton, and won.

Today, the effort to “delegitimize Trump”—with Electoral College conspiracy theories and “disrupt the Inauguration”—sounds like something from antic Abbie Hoffman’s “Steal This Book.”

The streets—and the political wilderness—await.  "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 15th, 2016 at 9:27am

Bluzdude wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

sirmoonie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
I know a lot of you purported Biblicalists will disagree, but at this point in America and Russia's history, it's hard to dispute that Trump is bigger than J. Christ.  I'm just talking empirically and quantitatively.  Not qualitatively, as it's too early to tell the score there.


You are correct!
The Donald is 6'3" (or thereabouts)
and Jesus was about 5'1"






http://cdn.thefiscaltimes.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/trump_Putin-shirtless.jpg?itok=q52395LL






Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 15th, 2016 at 12:23pm
Rolling Stones waive Jo Cox Christmas single royalties

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-38333093

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 16th, 2016 at 10:03am
Scott Baio says he was attacked by Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer's wife over his Trump support



FILE - In this July 18, 2016 file photo, actor Scott Baio gives two thumbs up after addressing the delegates during the opening day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. Baio Tweeted after the election, "Great faith in God works. Mr @realDonaldTrump I'm proud to call you President of the United States of America. And First Lady @melaniatrump." (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File) (J. Scott Applewhite)



By  The Washington Post
on December 16, 2016



Not everyone loves Chachi, it seems. Actor and prominent Donald Trump backer Scott Baio has filed a police report in California claiming that a woman attacked him at an event for their elementary-school kids, TMZ is reporting.

And because it's in the L.A. area, there's another layer of sorta-celebrity and liberal politics in the mix: The woman Baio named is Nancy Mack, the wife of Red Hot Chili Peppers drummer Chad Smith (he's the one who looks just like Will Ferrell). The cause of the skirmish wasn't a dispute over a the real football-field call, but rather (of course) politics.

Baio told police, per the report, that Mack grew livid, asking him how he could support a man who uttered the phrase "grab 'em by the p--y" and repeatedly shouted the phrase. He accused her of "grabbing him under his arms and then shaking and pushing him," though TMZ cites "sources close to Mack" claiming that "she was merely trying to show Baio how Trump hugs women and denies any intentional physical aggression."

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(c) 2016, The Washington Post. Emily Heil wrote this story.


http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/12/scott_baio_attack_trump_suppor.html#incart_river_home

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Joey on Dec 16th, 2016 at 10:08am





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http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-i-learned-to-love-putin-1481589536




" How I Learned to Love Putin "

" The Russian’s methods would make Macbeth blush and Richard III smile.  "


By BRET STEPHENS



" Vladimir Putin used to worry me. A lot. But I’m over it.

In September 1999 a series of apartment bombings in three Russian cities killed nearly 300 people. The Kremlin promptly blamed Chechen rebels, sparking the Second Chechen War.

Later that September, agents of Russia’s security service, the FSB, placed explosives in the basement of an apartment building in the city of Ryazan. Authorities claimed it was a training exercise, and that the explosives were merely sacks of sugar. An independent parliamentary inquiry went nowhere. Documents related to the incident are under 75-year seal. The bombings were instrumental in bringing Mr. Putin to power.

It once appalled me to think that he might hold his office thanks to a false-flag operation that would have made Macbeth blush and Richard III smile. But I’m OK with it now. We need Mr. Putin to defeat the terrorists in Syria.

Among the members of the Ryazan inquiry was liberal politician Sergei Yushenkov and investigative journalists Otto Latsis and Yuri Shchekochikhin. Yushenkov was assassinated in April 2003. Latsis was killed after a jeep rammed into his Peugot in September 2005. Shchekochikhin fell violently ill in June 2003, lost all his hair, suffered multiple organ failures and died 16 days later.

The following year, Viktor Yushchenko, a Ukrainian opposition figure seen as hostile to Russia, fell mysteriously ill as he was campaigning for the presidency. He survived to win the office, but his face was permanently disfigured by what turned out to be dioxin poisoning. Two years later, Alexander Litvinenko, a former FSB agent and political asylee in Britain, ingested a fatal dose of polonium. An official inquiry concluded that his murder was conducted by the FSB with the likely personal approval of Mr. Putin.

No big deal. As President-elect Trump told Joe Scarborough last year, “our country does plenty of killing also.”


The Litvinenko case was a matter of revenge against a man the FSB saw as a traitor. Other Kremlin operations aim more broadly to shape the politics of foreign countries.

In 2015, Germany’s domestic intelligence service concluded that Russia hacked the email accounts of the entire German parliament. Bulgaria’s electoral commission was subjected to a cyberattack the same year, in what the country’s president called “an attack on Bulgarian democracy.” Russia, MI5 chief Andrew Parker told the Guardian last month, “is using its whole range of state organs and powers to push its foreign policy abroad in increasingly aggressive ways—involving propaganda, espionage, subversion and cyber-attacks.”


But why should we trust him? I prefer to believe that every Western intelligence agency has it wrong when they put the blame on Russia.

Not all of Russia’s gambits are motivated by dark or secret motives. Sometimes the motivation is simple greed.

In 2003 Mr. Putin’s government froze the assets of energy giant Yukos and sent CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky to a Siberian labor camp for nearly a decade. The company’s assets were then taken over by state-owned oil firms run by Mr. Putin’s cronies. In 2006, the Kremlin used environmental pretexts to seize the controlling stake in Shell’s $20 billion gas project on Sakhalin Island and give it to Gazprom. In 2008, Bob Dudley, now the head of BP, was run out of Russia, reportedly fearing for his life, after his joint venture was seized by his Russian partners.

That same year, Rex Tillerson, ExxonMobil’s CEO, gave a speech in St. Peterburg warning that “there is no respect for the rule of law in Russia today.”

Russia’s domestic lawlessness used to worry me. But since Mr. Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by Mr. Putin in 2013, I assume nothing’s amiss.

Mr. Tillerson has made his reputation as a big-time deal-maker, and that’s the skill Mr. Trump is said to be looking for in a secretary of state so he can pursue the art of the deal at the highest tables. With the Kremlin, such a deal might involve dropping Western sanctions on Russia, a policy that Mr. Tillerson supports, and recognizing its territorial conquests in Ukraine in exchange for a Russian promise not to invade NATO member states.

Can Russia be trusted? In September 2013 Mr. Putin warned, in reference to Syria, that “military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries” would prove “ineffective and pointless.” Russia intervened in Syria two years later. In March 2014 Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu told Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel that Russian military exercises would not lead to an invasion of eastern Ukraine. Russian forces crossed the border later that year. In 1987 Russia signed the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. This October, the U.S. accused Russia of producing a cruise missile in violation of the agreement.

Russia’s willingness to lie used to distress me. But after this election season, political outrage has become passé. Why worry about Mr. Putin when it’s so much easier to love him? "

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 17th, 2016 at 7:26am

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by sirmoonie on Dec 17th, 2016 at 10:32am
Scott Baio got beat up by a girl.  So it's unlikely that he is still under consideration for a cabinet position after that humiliation.

“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”
I Corinthians 14:34-35

Keep in mind that Commands II and III prevent you from making false graven images for worship, yet every time god turns his back, you goddam heathens are slapping together some graven animals or fish to pray to.  This has got to stop, if we are to have peace in our times.



Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Factory Girl on Dec 17th, 2016 at 11:18am

We don't know if the RHC wife was a girl, or identified as a girl.


Go Chachi for Trump's Press Secretary!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 19th, 2016 at 9:51am
AMERICA’S “SNOWFLAKES” ARE MELTING, AND THIS TIME, GLOBAL WARMING ISN’T TO BLAME.



https://youtu.be/X9-5fYFjrbs

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Freya Gin on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:31pm
There's still time for my favorite candidate to beat everybody (see sig). C'mon baby!

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 23rd, 2016 at 5:27am
Well, here's one thing Obummer got right:




Obama Signs BOTS Act


President Barack Obama signed the Better Online Ticket Sales (BOTS) Act into law on Wednesday (Dec. 14) 


The bipartisan legislation (S. 3183) will end duplicative practices of “ticket bots” that monopolize tickets for entertainment events. Legislation passed by voice vote in the House on Wednesday would crack down on computer software used by some ticket brokers to snap up tickets.

The so-called “bots” rapidly purchase as many tickets as possible for resale at significant markups, and are one of the reasons why tickets to a Bruce Springsteen concert or “Hamilton” performance can sell out in just a few minutes.

The bill would make using the software an “unfair and deceptive practice” under the Federal Trade Commission Act and allow the FTC to pursue those cases. The Senate passed the bill last month.

“Hamilton” producer Jeffrey Seller testified at a Senate hearing in September. He said the bots invade the Ticketmaster system the moment tickets go on sale and electronically purchase almost all the available inventory — one of the reasons tickets to the hit musical about the life of founding father Alexander Hamilton have sold for $1,000 or more.

Kansas Sen. Jerry Moran, the Republican sponsor of the bill, said the legislation will “level the playing field” for people buying tickets.

“The BOTS Act… levels the online playing field and makes ticket prices fairer so a greater number of everyday folks can go to that big football game, see the musical in town, or attend a concert their son or daughter is longing to see. I appreciate the support of the president and my colleagues in Congress to get this done in a bipartisan manner.”

Wichita’s Intrust Bank Arena General Manager A.J. Boleski added, “This bill is a step closer in helping make the purchase of tickets more fair to all of those fans going to shows. Preventing BOTS allows patrons in Kansas equal access to ticketing inventory. We greatly appreciate the steps taken by Senator Moran to introduce and get this bill passed in the House and the Senate.”

In a report earlier this year, investigators in New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office cited a single broker who bought 1,012 tickets within one minute to a U2 concert at Madison Square Garden when they went on sale on Dec. 8, 2014, despite the vendor’s claim of a four-ticket limit.

By day’s end, that broker and one other had 15,000 tickets to U2’s North American shows. The report said third-party brokers resell tickets on sites like StubHub and TicketsNow at average margins of 49 percent above face value and sometimes more than 10 times the price.

New York’s review also found that, on average, 16 percent of tickets are reserved for various industry insiders like the venue employees, artists and promoters, while 38 percent are reserved for presales to certain groups like holders of a particular credit card.

--Associated Press


http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=828575

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Some Guy on Dec 26th, 2016 at 2:48pm
Best Obama ever?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-third-term_us_58613432e4b0eb586486d74c

Title: Re: Politics thread (ssc!!)
Post by Edith Grove on Dec 26th, 2016 at 8:55pm

Some Guy wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Best Obama ever?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-third-term_us_58613432e4b0eb586486d74c


Pissing in the wind.......