So, what do you want... You got the best, with Brussels and Handsome Girls (Live In Texas)... Looks like we are supposed to get 4 more maybe 6 in 2012... Holy crap!!!
What if Leeds 71 was found intact, meaning including the first songs that were never bootlegged? Could be out there, we didn't know this Brussels release was coming... We don't know shit...
How about El Macambo 77... We know that is recorded on multi tracks. I gotta figure, they will out do the bootleggers, and go toe to toe...  I'm so excited, I'm puking...
:loloncemore

Good idea, they will be releasing what we want

Lexington, KY 1978
Any "No Security" tour show
Something from the 1976
ETC

Trying to be realistic - so obviously we can forget stuff like the 100 Club in '86 and those kind of elusive gigs. Warm up shows are unlikely too, as the band arent usually tour-ready.

Complete, unedited shows are the way to go, unquestionably. As we've got Brussels '73, Fort Worth '78 and last year the blu ray of Ladies & Gents, its unlikely that any of the releases next year will come from 1972-73 or 1978.

A complete show with Brian Jones.

A complete show from 1969 - ideally the one MSG show thats never even circulated as an audience recording.

A complete 1975 show. My preference is for New York over the much-bootlegged LA run.

El Mocambo 1977. Apparently the tapes from the first night (4th March) were unusable, so a recording of the 5th March show (some of which has been bootlegged and which has also appeared on LYL)

A full 1981 show. Ideally from the last month or so of the tour. Hampton 18/12/81 would be the obvious choice. A blu-ray/DVD release would be even better!

One (or more) of the club shows from the 1995 European Tour. Paradiso (two shows played there), Brixton or L'Olympia. There is also an (uncirculated) complete pro shot of the Brixton show in existence. No doubt all four shows are in their archives in full as they were all filmed (the 2nd Paradiso show was screened live -  in full - in a nearby public park)

Buenos Aires 1998. Although a properly mixed DVD/blu ray of one of these shows is a must. The 30th March show was broadcast live (just a couple of songs incomplete) and the shows were taped for No Security (two songs from the 4th night were used).

Bremen 98 was great.

But that was a broadcast (only audio) and not officially released.

If I remember correctly.  

But I'd like to see more 75 as great as 78 was shown.

75 should be so good, it might change my political status...

Nicaraguan Benefit concert 01/18/1973 will be sure a cool one  , or the complete "Welcome to new york MSG 72 ", or the gig in memory of Stu at 100 club in 1986.

didn't even think of Paradiso... that would be great. El Macambo is highly likely, I'm torn between wanting to know and really liknig the surprise we just got.
They don't seem to have a problem with this stuff clashing with officially released and widely circulated bootlegs, so anything is on the table basically, and then I think the start to take stuff off the table. Hopefully Europe 76 is off and some USA 75 is on...  was poor to mediocre early on. I like the idea of 1969 stuff, a little... but there's nothing documenting 1970 or 1971, and there's some multi tracks I'm sure. Brain Jones era goes without saying, but not sure if they are thinking about that, I wasn't til it got mentioned.

Any or the best 1970 European tour?

Sir Morgans 81?

It's great to be a Stones fan!

And it's Friday!

Think they'll chose LA 75, Baton Rouge 75 (opening night) or Knebworth 76?

Who's going to Church this Sunday?

LA 75 rocked.

Imagine the SBD of that show.

Whewwwww...

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:17am:

Bremen 98 was great. But that was a broadcast (only audio) and not officially released. If I remember correctly.

Bremen was a live TV broadcast shown across several dozen countries in Europe and Africa.

Excellent show, featuring a superb Mick and Keith duet on 'Memory Motel' - thankfully with Dave Matthews nowhere to be seen. They even managed to do a half decent version of 'Anybody Seen My Baby' for about the only time on the whole tour.

Anything pre 69 would be great too!

She Said Yeah rocked hard back then, still does today.

A whole black and white show w/ Jones in there and all the crazy girls.

I want something that non Stones fans would simply say,  Holy Shit!

Gazza wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 10:08am:

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:17am: Bremen 98 was great. But that was a broadcast (only audio) and not officially released. If I remember correctly.   thankfully with Dave Matthews nowhere to be seen.

:booze  ;)

definately a show or two with brian!!!
than a complete 69
75&76

mojoman wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

definately a show or two with brian!!! than a complete 69 75&76

Don't know which one you'll get first but, they both WILL eventually come...

You might just gotta put a Mojo spell on them to hurry it up...

Buffalo 75 was superb.......The 94 Oakland Halloween show......MSG 3 in 98 the Saturday night show with Might As Well get juiced.......lemme at the vault!

steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:19am:

mojoman wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 11:09am: definately a show or two with brian!!! than a complete 69 75&76 Don't know which one you'll get first but, they both WILL eventually come... You might just gotta put a Mojo spell on them to hurry it up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4uq8jPZ4gs&feature=related

Listening tot the 'official' The Brussel Affair right now: and I like it!!
wow!!...


wish list:

Welcom to New York 72 (complete show please)
Paradiso Amsterdam
Vreedenburg Utrecht
Knebworth 76
Flower of Scotland
Seventh of July


grt,
Albert
Holland

I'd vote for 1970... as most of boots are almost unlistenable.

Perth 73 - Better show than Brussels and only available in worse quality.  This is the true Holy Grail.

Shit I forgot about Perth.

Good one.

Actually a great one.

Very close to the holy grail, next to Ya Ya's. Well, it could go either way.

Jumping Jack wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 3:36am:

Perth 73 - Better show than Brussels and only available in worse quality.  This is the true Holy Grail.

and a pre-GHS setlist, almost identical to the USA leg set... We def. need to see documents for 71 and 72 setlists IMO... and I would love to see something from 1970 Europe... I'm cool going w/o anything from 69... my top is still el macombo... after that... I hope I can relax...

Gazza wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 6:58am:

Trying to be realistic - so obviously we can forget stuff like the 100 Club in '86 and those kind of elusive gigs. Warm up shows are unlikely too, as the band arent usually tour-ready. Complete, unedited shows are the way to go, unquestionably. As we've got Brussels '73, Fort Worth '78 and last year the blu ray of Ladies & Gents, its unlikely that any of the releases next year will come from 1972-73 or 1978. A complete show with Brian Jones. A complete show from 1969 - ideally the one MSG show thats never even circulated as an audience recording. A complete 1975 show. My preference is for New York over the much-bootlegged LA run. El Mocambo 1977. Apparently the tapes from the first night (4th March) were unusable, so a recording of the 5th March show (some of which has been bootlegged and which has also appeared on LYL) A full 1981 show. Ideally from the last month or so of the tour. Hampton 18/12/81 would be the obvious choice. A blu-ray/DVD release would be even better! One (or more) of the club shows from the 1995 European Tour. Paradiso (two shows played there), Brixton or L'Olympia. There is also an (uncirculated) complete pro shot of the Brixton show in existence. No doubt all four shows are in their archives in full as they were all filmed (the 2nd Paradiso show was screened live -  in full - in a nearby public park) Buenos Aires 1998. Although a properly mixed DVD/blu ray of one of these shows is a must. The 30th March show was broadcast live (just a couple of songs incomplete) and the shows were taped for No Security (two songs from the 4th night were used).

I have era preference (68-73), but this is a good suggestion as to what should be released, giving credence to all lineups of the band.

I would like to see a cleaned up Marquee Club/1971 offering.

Jumping Jack wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 3:36am:

Perth 73 - Better show than Brussels and only available in worse quality.  This is the true Holy Grail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWS8Mg-JWSg

I'm going to make my prediction and wishlist...
after long consideration of what i want, and think is highly likely...

Leeds 71, complete... they have the full tapes and better quality than what was booted from the incomplete BBC tapes... if they released Let It Rock, that means the band had the full show multi tracks to work with...
LA 75 and the video as well... not sure how much footage they have or if they will combine the shows to make type of montage looking complete concert...
El Macombo 77 - nuff said
Hampton 81 - with a video release of the show as well or at least take the Hal Ashby movie and fix the audio/ video quality and make a great blu ray disc...
Oakland Halloween 1994 - great show, Keith was on fire and the video is fun and could be made into something really special.

IMO, they could do this easily, and really satisfy us die hard thirsty fans... there's not alot of money in this, but it will defintely help promote a tour, and reignite the passion...
this is what I'm hoping they are thinknig as well... they seem to be on the right track, finally getting it right...
and keep the fire going and get working on some more deluxe editions... we got great stuff to be dug out for SF, GHS, IORR, B&B, ER and even a few nuggets for Tattoo...

El Mocambo!!

It's such a varied setlist, really shows what the band was capable of.  I thought I read somewhere that Jimmy Page said something to the effect that all was forgiven Keith after he heard the tape of Dance Little Sister from this show.

Very well recorded also.  Was this filmed??

We live in hope.

Atlanta 1981 Fox Theater. A brilliant show that Robert Palmer (Rolling Stone critic not the musician) stated, "after seeing the Stones on every tour since 1964, I can honestly say that the show at The Fabulous Fox Theater in Atlanta in October (1981) was the best show I have ever seen period!" This was the same show that I attended, and I can say unequivocally, was the greatest rock and roll show I have ever seen by any band ever. It is the show that galvanized me as a Stones' fan for life. It was also the reason that Keith decided to start his first ever solo (Winos-1988) tour at The Fox (I was at that show as well, and saw Little Feat the next night there too!). Hands down the greatest venue that I have ever seen any show at, and it's not even close. That includes all NYC venues!

Oh, and yes, El Mocambo!



Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 2:14pm:

Atlanta 1981 Fox Theater. A brilliant show that Robert Palmer (Rolling Stone critic not the musician) stated, "after seeing the Stones on every tour since 1964, I can honestly say that the show at The Fabulous Fox Theater in Atlanta in October (1981) was the best show I have ever seen period!" This was the same show that I attended, and I can say unequivocally, was the greatest rock and roll show I have ever seen by any band ever. It is the show that galvanized me as a Stones' fan for life. It was also the reason that Keith decided to start his first ever solo (Winos-1988) tour at The Fox (I was at that show as well, and saw Little Feat the next night there too!). Hands down the greatest venue that I have ever seen any show at, and it's not even close. That includes all NYC venues! Oh, and yes, El Mocambo! Riffy

i assume since they recorded every show, they have it... I don't know if they recorded everything noto multi tracks, I do know some multi tracks came out as bootlegs, mostly stuff regarding the film and live broadcast... the rest was all mono soundboards... Fox only circulated as a audience I think... It's a theater show, but it was well into the tour roo wasn't it? So the band must've been tight... if it's all that and a bag a chips, or if we have video of it, that is good... Definitely a good call...

From keithrichards.com      http://www.keithrichards.com/news/kr_fullNews.aspx?PostID=85


Brussels '73 Now Available From Google Music

The Google Music store is now offering the Rolling Stones' long-bootlegged October 1973 Brussels show.

You can download the whole thing from the Android Marketplace, or get a free sample of a rare performance of the song "Dancing With Mr. D". Five more shows will be released over the next year, so stay tuned for more announcements.


Great  5 shows  !

eric wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 1:06pm:

El Mocambo!! It's such a varied setlist, really shows what the band was capable of.  I thought I read somewhere that Jimmy Page said something to the effect that all was forgiven Keith after he heard the tape of Dance Little Sister from this show. Very well recorded also.  Was this filmed?? We live in hope.

No. It wasnt, unfortunately.

The Stones would have got their crew to record almost every show since the early 70's, so in that context, they'd all exist as raw soundboards.

Being professionally recorded on multi-track is another thing, though. There would, undoubtedly, be a few from every tour. After all, now that we have a live document released from 1973, this means that every proper length Stones tour since 1972 has had an official live release either on DVD/VHS, CD or both.

1972 - Ladies & Gentlemen (DVD). Live album recorded in Fort Worth & Philly and mixed, but unreleased

1973 - nothing from Australia, but a live album from Europe released in 1973.

1975-76-77  - Love You Live

1978 - Live in Texas (DVD & CD)

1981/82 - Still Life (CD), Lets Spend The Night Together (DVD)

1989/90 - Flashpoint (CD), At The Max (DVD)

1994/95 - Stripped (CD), Giants Stadium (VGS - was this ever on DVD?), Miami (DVD)

1997/98 - BTB live from St Louis (DVD), No Security (CD)

Nothing from '99 - I suppose we could count the US leg as a separate tour

2002/03 - Live Licks (CD), Four Flicks (DVD)

2005/07 - Shine A Light (CD & DVD), Biggest Bang (DVD)

Most of those releases come from multiple sources, so its reasonable to assume there are professionally recorded source tapes for every show that was considered for release.

Thanks for the info Gazza.

I was streaming netflix the other night and came across a Australian documentary on the Stones.  In one of the clips Mick was talking about going through the live tapes to come up with the cuts on Love You Live.  The interviewer asked him how much tape did he have to go through.  Mick said, well 54 shows 2 hours a show, but he also said he didn't listen to all the shows because he knew which ones were badly played or poorly recorded.  So it sounds to me like all the shows, at least in the '75-'76 time frame, were recorded with the potential to be used on a live recording.  It was quite interesting listening to Mick complain about the engineers of that time, which in his opinion did not get how a live show should be recorded.  He then goes on about his ideas on how it should be done.

I'd be more than willing to introduce the Stones here in Atlanta at the Fox in 2012.....Some Guy could open doing his Joey impressions!

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

I'd be more than willing to introduce the Stones here in Atlanta at the Fox in 2012.....Some Guy could open doing his Joey impressions!

Put me down for that, please.

I'd love some previously unheard Brian Jones era shows and the complete El Mocambo. That said, I am completely saturated with stuff from 1969 forward so almost anything is anti-climatic.

Maybe a deluxe Stripped with complete sources for latter era stuff.

gimmekeef wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

I'd be more than willing to introduce the Stones here in Atlanta at the Fox in 2012.....Some Guy could open doing his Joey impressions!

Leaves a lot more time for drinking. :booze

someone on IORR suggested a march 1964 recording of 14 live studio songs for Radio Luxembourg. Sound like a real 'new' gem out of the vaults.
Bill Wyman is mentioned to be the owner of the original recording tape... :nooslajaleisk

add the 1968 NME recordings of Satisfaction and JJF as a bonus and voila: there's a big surptise!!


grt,
Albert
Holland

Any idea when the next of these bootlegs is coming out? If they said another 5 in the next year I'm hoping the next one will come out within the next month or so.

It seems to me another show that could be put out there is the 1969 Hyde Park show, Mick Taylor's first show.

The possibly ridiculously-groovy Knebworth rehearsal tapes - wherever they are - shirley?
And any 'Come On' out-takes, but in the scratchiest quality please.

Like Gazza mentioned some of the No Security shows. I would love a DVD of any of the shows. Loved the entrance video of the Stones walking through like a factory and then getting in the elevator. Too cool. :nomames

Gimme Shelter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 5:24am:

Loved the entrance video of the Stones walking through like a factory and then getting in the elevator. Too cool.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/GCGkDTAQ-0s?rel=0

The-Worst wrote on Dec 18^th, 2011 at 11:49pm:

Any idea when the next of these bootlegs is coming out? If they said another 5 in the next year I'm hoping the next one will come out within the next month or so. It seems to me another show that could be put out there is the 1969 Hyde Park show, Mick Taylor's first show.

I'd be surprised if thats one of them, to be honest. Most of the gig is officially available as a DVD, plus its a pretty ropey performance.

And yes, five in the next year would suggest that we might hear something about another release next month. Here's hoping.

Edith Grove wrote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 5:40am:

Gimme Shelter wrote on Dec 19th, 2011 at 5:24am: Loved the entrance video of the Stones walking through like a factory and then getting in the elevator. Too cool. http://www.youtube.com/embed/GCGkDTAQ-0s?rel=0

gives me chills........

BAD ASS!!!! Thanks for posting that Edith Grove. :areyoufuckingserious :wow

how about a LIVE DEBUT release......first time preformed live deal.

I have made a couple of those as playlists for listening parties and that can be a blast!

Seems the second instalment of the archives is coming pretty soon :

https://twitter.com/#!/RollingStones/status/157219243480457216

Gazza wrote on Jan 11^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Seems the second instalment of the archives is coming pretty soon : https://twitter.com/#!/RollingStones/status/157219243480457216

The announcement will be on Clitter this week end..or maybe Assbook?

gimmekeef wrote on Jan 11^th, 2012 at 6:34pm:

Gazza wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:06pm: Seems the second instalment of the archives is coming pretty soon : https://twitter.com/#!/RollingStones/status/157219243480457216 The announcement will be on Clitter this week end..or maybe Assbook?

Fiendster is still around... or maybe they will drop it on Myface!!!

If it's not Leeds complete... which I really hope it is... then it may be anti-climatic for me.... then again a nice 1975 show would be tight, I never liked the boots enough, like other tours, and always wished LYL was more genuine! a Brian era would be great too! That would be amazing actually!!!!

It could be the complete "welcome to new York 72"  july 26.

the complete BBC tapes would be very very cool

I wouldn't mind seeing Hampton or any show from the '81 tour. I am looking forward to what will be released next.

Any guesses on what we are getting? I'm saying Hampton. I have to admit it very exciting that we know at any moment the Stones are releasing a classic live album but we don't know when or what. I'm pumped!!!

:wow :smilebria :perverted

El Mocambo !

Well after Brussells it will be somewaht of a let down for me anyway.....but still exciting stuff.....How about one of those great 75 LA shows?...or a mix of the best cuts from the whole LA run??

The-Worst wrote on Jan 14^th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

Any guesses on what we are getting? I'm saying Hampton. I have to admit it very exciting that we know at any moment the Stones are releasing a classic live album but we don't know when or what. I'm pumped!!! :wow :smilebria :perverted

They had left little clues before, I went through, looking for new pics... but didn't see anything... They do have Ox 73 tour poster on the site... A day or two before the release date, which we don't know... they may add a pic or two as a clue....
I'm pretty sure we can narrow it down to 71, 75, 77 or 81...

Gazza wrote on Jan 11^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Seems the second instalment of the archives is coming pretty soon : https://twitter.com/#!/RollingStones/status/157219243480457216

Maybe this tweet was a Fake ?

riffkeither wrote on Jan 18^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Gazza wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:06pm: Seems the second instalment of the archives is coming pretty soon : https://twitter.com/#!/RollingStones/status/157219243480457216 Maybe this tweet was a Fake ?

What makes you think that?

It was posted on their official site. They've said there will be 6 archive releases over the next year and its now been two months since the last one.

You are certainly right Gazza ! i hope so . but it seems that everybody in the near Stones area is asleep  in this new year, weneed some action !

very very soon, Ronnie Wood era.... o

RollingStones The Rolling Stones
BOOTLEG ALERT... Tongue&Lips can now reveal the album will be from the Ronnie Wood era. It's a cracker!

Oups ! :scary

rogerriffin wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

very very soon, Ronnie Wood era.... o RollingStones The Rolling Stones BOOTLEG ALERT... Tongue&Lips can now reveal the album will be from the Ronnie Wood era. It's a cracker!

Hampton :willya

'Cracker' might be the clue....ie, its from a show around Christmas.

If so, maybe it is indeed Hampton '81..

Or... Crackin´Up... el Mocambo!!!

..was just gonna post that, Roger....great minds, and all that bollocks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zAYcpUeVeo

or


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdfU4L6SCpo

i'm a georgia cracker, maybe atlanta fox theater 1981? i understand omni in 1975 was a real good show tho you can't really tell by the bootleg. Prob not the 1978 show at the fox, it was the second show of the tour and apparently a ramshackle affair. the great Robert Palmer wrote the 81 fox show was the best stones show he ever saw.

jeff wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:

i'm a georgia cracker, maybe atlanta fox theater 1981? i understand omni in 1975 was a real good show tho you can't really tell by the bootleg. Prob not the 1978 show at the fox, it was the second show of the tour and apparently a ramshackle affair. the great Robert Palmer wrote the 81 fox show was the best stones show he ever saw.

riffy always says how amazing it was...would be a real treat to get that, hampton has been seen and heard but most of us already... fox sounds like a better show with probably the same setlist give or take a song...

IT'S KNEBWORTH 76. YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's the latest tweet:

"RollingStones The Rolling Stones
BOOTLEG ALERT Charlie & @bill_wyman joined the Stones 49 yrs ago today. The very rhythm section on the upcoming http://StonesArchive.com bootleg"


So we now know that this boot is coming from somewhere between 1975-1990.

We're getting close!

Hey , are we Pavlov's Dogs ?

Latest tweet says the new boot was recorded in North America. Could it be El Mocumbo?!?

:perverted  :blankfriggingstare1  :aimama  :scary  :nooslajaleisk   :wtf1

last tweet:

RollingStones The Rolling Stones
@tylerware The Rolling Stones released the Brussels Affair in Nov.There'll be another release to stonesarchive.com v soon-can you guess wot?

today or tomorrow? or this week??

rogerriffin wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 8:29am:

last tweet: RollingStones The Rolling Stones @tylerware The Rolling Stones released the Brussels Affair in Nov.There'll be another release to stonesarchive.com v soon-can you guess wot? today or tomorrow? or this week??

Enough of the needy, infantile attention-seeking shite.

Just announce and release it, you bastards, before those of us with a mental age of over 12 lose interest altogether!

:nooslajaleisk

the world took a turn for the worse when Twitter was launched raising the levels of self importance to new levels of bullshit

Gazza wrote on Jan 25^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

rogerriffin wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:29am: last tweet: RollingStones The Rolling Stones @tylerware The Rolling Stones released the Brussels Affair in Nov.There'll be another release to stonesarchive.com v soon-can you guess wot? today or tomorrow? or this week?? Enough of the needy, infantile attention-seeking shite. Just announce and release it, you bastards, before those of us with a mental age of over 12 lose interest altogether!

What he said!....Someone at RS Inc is getting way too fucking cute. :kissmyass

Complete bullshit! we are waiting for something we all already have ! i guess we will not have  a surprise  in the next up coming archive , stones don't tour,   so they need money ! Fans will cash... :willya :willya :willya

they will make it into a scavenger hunt

no news ? :scary

Hampton 81 ?

:forfucksake

What's the problem with that?

They're releasing classic bootlegs - and that fits the bill.

There's far more Stones fans who DONT have it than there are who do.

Its not ALL about those of us who are completists.

Gazza wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 6:05am:

What's the problem with that? They're releasing classic bootlegs - and that fits the bill. There's far more Stones fans who DONT have it than there are who do. Its not ALL about those of us who are completists.

Sorry but for me , the best Stones  live are dead  in 73 ,and its not a problem about Woody.

riffkeither wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 6:59am:

Gazza wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 6:05am: What's the problem with that? They're releasing classic bootlegs - and that fits the bill. There's far more Stones fans who DONT have it than there are who do. Its not ALL about those of us who are completists. Sorry but for me , the Stones  live are dead  in 73 and its not a problem about Woody.

Fair enough.

They've already said a week or two ago its from the Ron Wood era. Knowing that, why would anyone feel disappointed or bewildered when they announce details of a show from after 1973?

LA 75........bring it on!!!!!!!

just remember, with whatever dissapointment you feel, with this and the next four releases... Most of us wanted Brussels, and we got it! If that was all we were to get, then that would've been alot...
Can We Get Satisfaction? I think most of us just never can get enough... and that they are even attempting this, and making it available in lossless downloads on the cheap, mastered great and getting the best mix, so everything sounds great, is an homage to us fans... Be Happy or or not... but I really think this is a great gesture by the band...

We had 2 awesome releases in the last few months ( not including studio bonus')...and ALREADY we are spoiled!!
Shame shame shame...I am not a fan of the 81 stuff...but many are...I am just
glad that it is now out of the way and let the rest come fwd.

I would love to see/hear more recent stuff as well...something many folks here are not really fans of.
AC 89...or even better AC 06 (smoking hot show, it was!!!)

If they keep this pace  up we could all have about 20 shows total by the start of 2015...
BRING IT ON !!!

Hampton 81 is fine by me. That's one classic I don't have,look forward to getting it. :willya :keithpunky

Hampton is the next one !

Take a look here :

http://www.sympathyforthedevils.com/news.html

:nomames

a version is on Wolfgangsvault and of course it has been traded for ages..three songs are already on still life......The version of Just my Imagination is outstanding.

I am sure the quality of the mix will supersede the video rip mix many of us have.  I for one am looking forward to the Still Life we never had.

:areyoufuckingserious

the stereo simulcast is around

Zack wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 2:55pm:

I am sure the quality of the mix will supersede the video rip mix many of us have.  I for one am looking forward to the Still Life we never had. :areyoufuckingserious

According to Nasty Habits, who bought and downloaded it earlier today, the new mix is 'awesome'.

FINALLY!!!  Hampton '81 is up on Google Music now!!! It doesn't appear to be on the Stones Archive site yet but I can't download from that in the US anyway.  I'll be buying this tonight when I get home from work!!!  


:perverted  :smoking  :wtf1  :aimama  :areyoufuckingserious  :wow  :smilebrian

GOT IT, SOUNDS GREAT..THUMB IS TERRIBLE,TAKES OFF AFTER THAT!
:smilestu

ZZZZZ...sorry but the 81 tour sucked for me...saxaphone solos?..and not by Bobby Keyes....imho every song had the same tempo and sound. Enjoy it those that love 81!

I'm so hyped they are finally opening up the vaults. I just bought it and it's incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE STONES!!!!!! Keep these coming!!!! :wtf2

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Tattoo You: Rolling Stones Digital Archive Unveils 1981 Concert

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When the Rolling Stones opened the Stones Archive for business late in 2011 with the first-ever legitimate release of The Brussels Affair, it was greeted as somewhat of a mixed blessing.  The Archive promised to be a place where fans of the World’s Greatest Rock and Roll Band “can listen to unheard music, view unseen photographs and films, and look at rare merchandise. Fans have the opportunity to buy items such as signed lithographs, deluxe box sets, even personalised merchandise and tour gear in the shop.”  Of course, some lamented the lack of physical counterparts for the Archive’s releases.  Others were distressed by the lack of high-fidelity FLAC files for American customers; while purchasers abroad can choose between FLAC and MP3, the Archive’s American licensee (Google Music, via Android Market) offers only MP3.  So it’s “business as usual” for the just-announced second release from the Archives.  Whereas The Brussels Affair preserved a 1973 concert, the Archives jumps ahead to the waning days of 1981 for Hampton Coliseum: Live 1981.

Recorded in Hampton, Virginia on December 18, 1981, the digital album presents a lengthy concert from the final leg of the Tattoo You tour, and also one of six tour dates taped for radio’s King Biscuit Flower Hour.  That night in Virginia, the Stones tore through some of their latest hits from the critically and commercially successful album: “Start Me Up,” “Hang Fire,” “Little T&A,” “Black Limousine,” “Neighbours” and “Waiting on a Friend.”  Though Tattoo You was largely assembled from spruced-up outtakes (some dating back as far as a decade), the material felt fresh, and the Rolling Stones were rewarded with their final No. 1 album to date in America.  The album was still on audience members’ minds at the time of the December gig, having just been released in late August.

Hit the jump for more on Hampton Coliseum: Live 1981, including the full track listing!

Like The Brussels Affair, Hampton Coliseum is a much-bootlegged concert appearing for the first time in remastered sound, and early reports have indicated that the new release is a distinct remix from the booted versions.  Highlights include Mick Jagger leading an audience sing-along during “You Can’t Always Get What You Want,” and joking with saxophone great Ernie Watts, who joined the Stones on the expansive tour.  (He took over the parts played by the uncredited saxophone colossus, Sonny Rollins, on Tattoo You.)  Jagger was deadpan as he informed the audience that Ernie is no relation to drummer Charlie Watts! The Stones paid homage to their Motown contemporaries with roaring takes on Smokey Robinson and the Miracles’ “Going to a Go Go” and The Temptations’ “Just My Imagination.”  And the hits just keep on coming in the concert’s final songs: “Honky Tonk Women,” “Brown Sugar,” “Jumpin’ Jack Flash,” “Satisfaction.”

Wolfgang’s Vault has been offering this concert for sale, but the Stones Archive edition expands that version of the title with four additional tracks: “20 Flight Rock,” “Going to a Go Go,” the complete “Let Me Go” and the band introductions.   Hampton Coliseum Live 1981 is available now at Android Market as 320 kbps MP3s for the price of $4.99 for the entire concert.  As the title just went on sale today, the official Stones Archive site hasn’t yet been updated, but we’re confident that it soon will be.  The Android Market link can be found below!

The Rolling Stones, Hampton Coliseum: Live 1981 (Rolling Stones, digital-only, 2012)

Under My Thumb
When the Whip Comes Down
Let’s Spend the Night Together
Shattered
Neighbours
Black Limousine
Just My Imagination
20 Flight Rock
Going to a Go Go
Let Me Go
Time Is On My Side
Beast of Burden
Waiting on a Friend
Let It Bleed
You Can’t Always Get What You Want
Band Intros
Little T&A
Tumbling Dice
She’s So Cold
Hang Fire
Miss You
Honky Tonk Women
Brown Sugar
Start Me Up
Jumpin’ Jack Flash
Satisfaction
All tracks recorded December 18, 1981 at Hampton Coliseum, Hampton, Virginia.

Just listen to it  today,  my  swinging pigs  "coffret"  , it's sure one of the worst tour of the Rolling Stones , ron Wood guitar sound is at the height of the nulite !

They play too SPEED, really crappy one , the choice of this one  is like the stones, they would become old farts?

I'm so glad I'm busy, and also patient... I have to wait and am ok waiting to hear this...
I never liked the boots of the show, the mix was so messy, everything seemed meshed together and it was just loudly mastered... no seperation and if you turned it up, distorted.... I knew it was a great performace... now we will have a great document of it... the time trip back to the early eighties is going to be sweet... nice article, thanks G

riffkeither wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 7:26am:

Just listen to it  today,  my  swinging pigs  "coffret"  , it's sure one of the worst tour of the Rolling Stones , ron Wood guitar sound is at the height of the nulite ! They play too SPEED, really crappy one , the choice of this one  is like the stones, they would become old farts?

Limiting the choice of archive releases commemorating and celebrating their 50th anniversary as a band to a four year period between 1969 to 1973 sort of defeats the entire point of the exercise, no?

I like it a lot. :paristhong

Gazza wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 10:16am:

riffkeither wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 7:26am: Just listen to it  today,  my  swinging pigs  "coffret"  , it's sure one of the worst tour of the Rolling Stones , ron Wood guitar sound is at the height of the nulite ! They play too SPEED, really crappy one , the choice of this one  is like the stones, they would become old farts? Limiting the choice of archive releases commemorating and celebrating their 50th anniversary as a band to a four year period between 1969 to 1973 sort of defeats the entire point of the exercise, no?

Gazza you are right , but i really don't apreciate the 1981/82 tour i think it's their worst so far(maybe because of their first Wireless Guitars),even if for me the best period is taylor area  .anyway i 'm curious to ear a perfect  sounding gig with Brian Jones ! Tota was also a good period .hope that the next one or others will be ok for me with few jems that we don't know ...

"Limiting the choice of archive releases commemorating and celebrating their 50th anniversary as a band to a four year period between 1969 to 1973 sort of defeats the entire point of the exercise, no?"

Exactly.  One must view this from the business standpoint of the Rolling Stones.  Business moves product, the main product for the Stones being concert attendance, merchandise, etc.

In my view, releasing these shows is a clever way of creating demand for the next tour.  They can't possibly be making money on these releases.  Sort of a marketing loss leader to generate the big income a tour will provide.

If I were to guess, I would say each release will cover a tour later than the previous release and most likely be from a different part of the world.  Next up, maybe the '90 Urban Jungle from London, then possibly a '95 South American show or Japanese show.

The Stones are a worldwide affair, they've got a big area to cover.

Hampton '81 is now available on the archive store for non-US customers

$7 for mp3, and $9 for FLAC.

http://www.stonesarchivestore.com/

I'm loving Hampton.  I had it blasting in the car on the way to work & as pdog said the nice thing about this versus the bootleg is that it doesn't get distorted when it is blasted really loud.  The mix is also great, like Brussels Affair, I have gained a greater appreciation for Bill Wyman bass playing.

So with 2 down & 4 to go the question is what could be left.  The Stones seem to be very in touch with what the hardcore fans want to see released since Brussels Affair, Handsome Girls, & Hampton '81, arguably the three most popular boots have been released right out the gate.  Therefore, unless they are going strickly in chronological order I have to believe that El Mocambo will be one of the next four released.

After that, I have to believe there will be at least one release from the 1989-2006 period.  Since they seem to be going with popular boots or telecasts which probably have the best possible sound source I'm guessing the top three candidates are Atlantic City '89, & Paradiso '95.  I'm hoping they don't just take the audio off the Voodoo Lounge DVD show in Miami (although I love that tour) or the 2003 MSG telecast as much of it is already on Live Licks.  I actually hope they pull out some show from the No Security tour with some really different setlists.  

Assuming they only took one from the 89-06 period (probably not the case) however- what other shows would be left?  There are so many but I'm trying to think of the real popular boots/live broadcasts.  I think Marquee from '71 would be great.  I'd love to see a Brian Jones one but I don't know how realistic that is-Did they tour Europe in '67? Was that Brian's final tour with them & are there any quality boots of that out there?

I tthink LA '75 or Aux Abbitors from Paris in '76 would be other candidates but those are pretty close to Love You Live.  Anyway you cut it I think this is great!!!   :perverted

Just downloaded it and listening now (on FLAC)

and...

It's a monster. Even to my ageing lugs (battered by years of listening to loud music), the sound absolutely blows the bootlegs out of the water.  Great job by Bob Clearmountain.

Highlights are the best live version ever of "Let It Bleed" and a riproaring "Just My Imagination"

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

I paid 9usd for the .flac, but when i try to download all sucks....

i do preffer 1000 times to buy at amazon or ebay....

ON SAXOPHONE, ERNIE WATTS !!!!!
HELLS YEA !

CONCERT IS GREAT ,BUT CHRLIE'S PLAYING TOOK A SERIOUS STEP BACK FROM 1978.

Pdog wrote on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 8:06am:

just remember, with whatever dissapointment you feel, with this and the next four releases... Most of us wanted Brussels, and we got it! If that was all we were to get, then that would've been alot... Can We Get Satisfaction? I think most of us just never can get enough... and that they are even attempting this, and making it available in lossless downloads on the cheap, mastered great and getting the best mix, so everything sounds great, is an homage to us fans... Be Happy or or not... but I really think this is a great gesture by the band...

I totally agree, can never get enough. Keep these releases coming. I've been waiting for these for a looooonnnnnnngggggg time. :areyoufuckingserious

I'm really hoping we get one of the No Security shows as well.

Ernie 'no relation' Watts is my hero this week


...and he will kick ALL of your asses...



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The-Worst wrote on Feb 1^st, 2012 at 12:41pm:

I'm loving Hampton.  I had it blasting in the car on the way to work & as pdog said the nice thing about this versus the bootleg is that it doesn't get distorted when it is blasted really loud.  The mix is also great, like Brussels Affair, I have gained a greater appreciation for Bill Wyman bass playing. So with 2 down & 4 to go the question is what could be left.  The Stones seem to be very in touch with what the hardcore fans want to see released since Brussels Affair, Handsome Girls, & Hampton '81, arguably the three most popular boots have been released right out the gate.  Therefore, unless they are going strickly in chronological order I have to believe that El Mocambo will be one of the next four released. After that, I have to believe there will be at least one release from the 1989-2006 period.  Since they seem to be going with popular boots or telecasts which probably have the best possible sound source I'm guessing the top three candidates are Atlantic City '89, & Paradiso '95.  I'm hoping they don't just take the audio off the Voodoo Lounge DVD show in Miami (although I love that tour) or the 2003 MSG telecast as much of it is already on Live Licks.  I actually hope they pull out some show from the No Security tour with some really different setlists.   Assuming they only took one from the 89-06 period (probably not the case) however- what other shows would be left?  There are so many but I'm trying to think of the real popular boots/live broadcasts.  I think Marquee from '71 would be great.  I'd love to see a Brian Jones one but I don't know how realistic that is-Did they tour Europe in '67? Was that Brian's final tour with them & are there any quality boots of that out there? I tthink LA '75 or Aux Abbitors from Paris in '76 would be other candidates but those are pretty close to Love You Live.  Anyway you cut it I think this is great!!!   :perverted

They toured continental Europe in spring 1967 - the final tour with Brian. There's a radio broadcast in circulation of the Paris gig from 11th April and somewhat primitive audience recordings of a few other shows, but nothing that I would think would be releasable, unless they have something that we don't know about.

IF this Stones Archives thing is solely a 6-show deal to cover their 50 years as a band, then - taking personal taste out of the equation - logic dictates that there should be a show from the era with Brian Jones and a couple from 1989 onwards. That would leave one and a mid-70's show would be the most likely, I would think - either a 1975 ToTA concert or an El Mocambo release.

Of course, if its an ongoing project which will continue beyond their 50th anniversary, then its a bottomless pit and it doesnt really matter what's next or in what sequence - we'll get every era eventually.

The Marquee 71 show is not a good performance. They were so dissatisfied with it that they wouldnt even let it be shown in the UK. Leeds is a much better gig, and as it was a radio broadcast (in mono) would be a more likely candidate for a 1971 release - ideally if it's in stereo and includes the first two songs, which were not broadcast and which have never circulated.

Good stuff Gazza. I really hope they do even more then these 6 releases but regardless I'm very thankful for what we are being given.  When you think about it, with the exception of the cost to have these remixed & remastered by Bob Clearmountain the cost of putting these out is very little.  There is no production costs of manufacturing & distributing CDs.  They basically remaster them & upload them to a website.  That's why they can be provided for dirt cheap.  

The real question I have is is there a way for me to get lossless versions of these in the US without my computer filling up with viriuses when I go to download them?  :Youmakeagrownmancrylikejoey

I have a link to the FLAC version on a free file sharing service...it is working fine.....Gazza I wont post it here and let me know if there is a problem sharing it with others.

gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.

RUDE,RUDE,RUDE I WISH I WERE NUDE.
TO YER EALTH' ,KEEF!

now i like that show, before i heard once by year i think, now i like it very much!!!

i also upload in .flac for share...if any need them...

The-Worst wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 12:16pm:

gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US.

I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water....

Available in the newsgroups now.

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Just curiuos, is Hampton '81 the same show where Keith racked that stage-jumper with his guitar?  :wtf1

Yep.

Keith 'chops the mother down' at 1:06 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMJqey4Qr2A

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 1:20pm:

The-Worst wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:16pm: gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US. I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water....

If you want to pm each other, fine - but posting links for downloading it on here might be a problem. Thanks.

This release is really terrific - the Clearmoutain mix does lend a certain freshness to what is a very familiar 30 year-old recording - I first heard it on 12/18/81 while recording onto cassette off the radio.  A few observations:

-- great to hear the guitars from the very beginning on Under My Thumb.
-- Mick's guitar is all but gone from When the Whip Comes Down
-- a shame Keith's vocals are buried a bit, especially on LSTNT
-- it seems a sligh bit of trimming occurred on Neighbors, Let Me Go and a few other songs
-- Time is on My Side vocals are unmistakeably overdubbed - sound not quite the same as Still Life, but definitely not from the original recording
-- a couple of brief snippets of Miss You are also overdubbed

These don't seem to be recent overdubs, but rather from early 82 for Still Life/KBFH purposes?  Again, not a complaint, merely observing.  Finally, Keith is definitely louder in the mix.  This is not a complaint either as I feel this may be his best playing live - ever. Blasphemous to some I know, but he was amazing this entire tour.  In my opinion, the black telecaster custom guitar tone coupled with his evolution as a player by 1981 is his finest onstage period.  Overall, what a fantastic release.

Gazza wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 3:05pm:

gimmekeef wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:20pm: The-Worst wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:16pm: gimmekeef, I don't want to rock the boat with the moderators of this site so I'll defer to them but if you have the link I'd appreciate it.  I paid for the MP3s & am willing to pay for the FLAC files as well, I just can't in the US. I have no problem sharing as it was given to me...just want to wait for mods here to make a call on this.....a lot of concern lately regarding file sharing and I don't want to get the entire site in hot water.... If you want to pm each other, fine - but posting links for downloading it on here might be a problem. Thanks.

I can niether confirm or deny the reports it is on Demonoid!

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/Attachments/Hampton_81.jpg

Has Wyman been cropped out again?? Or is that HUGE Jagger backdrop meant that
the other four are BW,CW,RW, and KR?

Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 7:43pm:

Has Wyman been cropped out again?? Or is that Jagger backdrop meant that the other four are BW,CW,RW, and KR?

Bill is one of the other four. This was a concert poster for the Pontiac Silverdome shows in 1981.

http://valleyism.com/valleyism/stones/poster/rstone15.jpg

Not bad, warts and all, but what a shoddy version of "Under my Thumb", not quite as bad as the first night, but nowhere as good as the "Still Life" version, speeding it up as the tour progressed was a good idea...I'm partial to that very version because that's what turned me on to the Stones big time in 1982!

They certainly had some roughness to them left back in '81, man, taking a crappy song like Neighbors on the road (I loved it back in its day), a bit as if they'd played "Mean Disposition" on the VL tour!

Overall they were on their way down compared to 1978 though, less energy, and both Ronnie and Keith aren't playing as well, stadium antics probably didn't help.

If you watch the video, Under My thumb's maybe a bit messy because of the unusual way they took the stage at that particular show, with the revolving stage thing. It looks a bit chaotic so little wonder it took them a while to hit their stride on it.

Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2012 at 7:43pm:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/Attachments/Hampton_81.jpg Has Wyman been cropped out again?? Or is that HUGE Jagger backdrop meant that the other four are BW,CW,RW, and KR?

The latter.

Gazza wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:21am:

If you watch the video, Under My thumb's maybe a bit messy because of the unusual way they took the stage at that particular show, with the revolving stage thing. It looks a bit chaotic so little wonder it took them a while to hit their stride on it.

Good point, I'll need to dig out the video but based on the applause it sounds like it was a..staged arrival ;-) I'm still pretty sure the Still Life version is a quite a bit faster...man that opening piano, the announcement and the powerful weaving guitars...that's burnt into my memory for ever, guess that was a bit of a revelation that day listening to it at the music store (just had teeth pulled out and my mum was offering me an LP to cheer me up...).

Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good.

Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on.

Trey Krimsin wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 3:19pm:

Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good. Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on.

Wasn't Hampton Roads and the Tempe AZ shows, what were used in the Hal Ashby film LSTNT?

No...it was Tempe and the meadowlands  Brendan Byrne Arena shows...all three nites were recorded...i was there...if you listen
to the start of STILL LIFE...the announcer says...
"Thank you very much, the waiting New Jersey...
Would you please welcome...THE ROLLING STONES!!!"

The NJ shows were the arena shows and the outdoor shows were Tempe...

please correct me anyone if i am wrong...

The Hampton VA show was the FIRST pay-per-view show (ever?) on HBO...

an ingenious move on whoever thought of that concept...PAY PayTV!!!

HAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!

Pdog wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Trey Krimsin wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:19pm: Downloaded this a couple of days ago and I played the entire concert at work yesterday as I was working in the back. Classic. Sounds better than the bootleg I have, even though the boot sounds pretty damn good. Some of the footage of the concert I've looked up on YouTube looks very familiar to me, but I don't remember where I could have seen this. I doubt it will, but I hope this will be the next DVD/Blu-Ray release, if not released sometime later on. Wasn't Hampton Roads and the Tempe AZ shows, what were used in the Hal Ashby film LSTNT?

Little T & A, Tumbling Dice, All Down The Line, Hang Fire, Let It Bleed, Start Me Up and Brown Sugar are from Meadowlands, 5th November
Going To A Go Go, YCAGWYW, She's So Cold, Miss You and Satisfaction come from Meadowlands, 6th November

Everything else is from Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, Az, 13th December

Hampton Roads was televised in the US (maybe in Canada too, I don't know), but nowhere else. Promo videos for the two Still Life singles (Going To A Go Go and Time is On My Side) featured footage of the Hampton show, although the version of Going To A Go used as the single and on the album came from Largo, Maryland.

Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:52pm:

No...it was Tempe and the meadowlands  Brendan Byrne Arena shows...all three nites were recorded...i was there...if you listen to the start of STILL LIFE...the announcer says... "Thank you very much, the waiting New Jersey... Would you please welcome...THE ROLLING STONES!!!" The NJ shows were the arena shows and the outdoor shows were Tempe... please correct me anyone if i am wrong... The Hampton VA show was the FIRST pay-per-view show (ever?) on HBO... an ingenious move on whoever thought of that concept...PAY PayTV!!! HAMPTON COMES ALIVE!!!

Was it actually shown on HBO? The bit at the start where the naked girl has all the stations listed on various parts of her anatomy suggests it was shown by satellite on several local stations.  It was also shown by closed-circuit in cinemas as well and broadcast on the radio.

I remember that Rod Stewart's concert from the LA Forum on the same night was also broadcast live on TV (not sure what station). Unlike the Stones' one, it was shown in other countries too - we got it in the UK a few weeks later.

Under My Thumb on Still Life comes from the first of the three Meadowlands shows (5th November)
Satisfaction comes from Tempe 13th December.

So, neither of those performances duplicates versions from the shows used for LSTNT movie.

Lets Spend The Night Together, Shattered and Time is on My Side on 'Still Life' come from Hampton 18/12/81
Just My Imagination comes from the final show of the tour, Hampton 19/12/81
Start Me Up and Beast of Burden (the non-album b-side) are from Chicago 25/11/81
Twenty Flight Rock, Go Go (both 9th December) and Let Me Go (8th December) are from Largo, Maryland

the outlet was then called ONTV and it was a single channel cable box..then the show was simulcast on local radio which is why the Tattoo you faced chick is painted that way.

Now youhave me thinking Gazza and Dadrob...back then, for the most part there was only HBO and Showtime as I recall it...but now that Robdad says it...I do recall a special BLACK BOX that you may have needed to get the signal, hence, a possible separate feed...an UHF one at that...so maybe it was just done thru local cable companies and not actually HBO...

I was 17...so, who knows...I just assumed it was HBO...like I said...it was pretty much all there was...even MTV was less than 4months old at the time...

yes channel 44 in chicago went off he air at night and ONTV then ran til very late when the soft core porn scramble came on...In chicago we had a only few other tv choices at night because cable had not penetrated these markets yet. one can go on youtube and see ads for ONTV.

okay...after EXHAUSTIVE reserch...in WIKI I found this cited under ROLLING STONES AMERICAN TOUR 1981:

In another marketing first, the 18 December performance at Virginia's Hampton Coliseum was broadcast as "The World's Greatest Rock'n'Roll Party," on pay-per-view and in closed circuit cinemas


The source of this info...ROCKS OFF!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

No mention of HBO...so it's got to be FACT!!
:warhorse :warhorse :warhorse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_American_Tour_1981#cite_note-setlist-9

Paranoid Android wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:

The source of this info...ROCKS OFF!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anything and everything posted on Rocks Off is 100% fact, especially when posted by Joey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ON-TV

I am sure of this.....my old VHS tape has a label citing its source.

and this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmNaEWTuFwA

I love the info on this place, especially Gazza... He knows more about The Stones than Mick has forgotten!!! Wait, did that even make sense? Anyway, You get my point!!!

Pdog wrote on Feb 6^th, 2012 at 3:38pm:

I love the info on this place, especially Gazza... He knows more about The Stones than Mick has forgotten!!! Wait, did that even make sense? Anyway, You get my point!!!

Gazza cares more about the Stones than Mick does at this point.

Mick and Keith discuss the Hampton '81 concert on Magnifier, the second instalment of what seems to be an ongoing series of interviews on the archives releases

Thanks to Dandelion Powderman on IORR for the link




(Part 1 is the Brussels '73 concert - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnrHE9lP1g&feature=related)

 Rolling Stones Jagger & Richards Remember Stage Crasher from ’81 Concert
by: Chris M. Junior 2 days ago

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When you’ve toured as much as the Rolling Stones, it can be really hard to differentiate one show from another. But the band’s gig on Dec. 18, 1981, in Hampton, Virginia — now available as ‘Hampton Coliseum (Live 1981),’ the second official Stones concert bootleg — was certainly memorable for Keith Richards and Mick Jagger.
The way Richards describes it, that’s the one “where the guy ran onstage” as the Stones were closing out the concert with ‘(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction.’

“Security was a bit slow, and I saw some guy heading straight for Mick,” Richards says in a recent video interview. “I saw nobody between him and Mick … I have no idea what this guy is gonna do. … All I know is that he’s trying to get his hands on Mick, and this I have to prevent, and I do have a weapon in my hands.”

Richards removed his black Fender Telecaster and took a swing at the man, hitting him on top of his left shoulder, the guitarist recalls. Once security intervened, Richards went back to using the Tele for its primary purpose.

“The damn thing stayed in tune, and this is the greatest [advertisement] for Fender that I can give you,” Richards says with a laugh.

Jagger remembers the show’s custom stage with its “enormously long” walkways, which, in retrospect probably weren’t worth the money: “I think I went up there once,” he says.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mick-jagger-keith-richards-recall-details-of-1981-concert-now-available-as-second-official-rolling-stones-bootleg/

Rolling Stones Release Videos from New ’81 Archive Live Album
by: Billy Dukes 2 days ago


The Rolling Stones‘ official YouTube page has unlocked four new videos from a 1981 show the band filmed for Pay-per-view at the Hampton Coliseum in Virginia. It’s the same show from which they recently released their second archival downloadable live album, a look a the rock band in their prime, and a highlight reel of at least one of the more talked about moments in Stones’ history.
“I’m not sure how many people were able to actually watch it on Pay-per-view because Pay-per-view is (was?) notoriously impossible to get,” Mick Jagger says in a separate video at the band’s archive site. The sound and energy from the show are captured almost flawlessly, and the video is as clean as you could ask for. One can’t help but chuckle at the styles of the day, including Jagger’s tight football pants and Charlie Watts’ bowl cut.

Performances of ‘Black Limousine,’ ‘Little T&A,’ ‘She’s So Cold’ and ‘Satisfaction’ are included in the recently released video vault. During ‘Satisfaction,’ Keith Richards takes a swing at a fan he feels is heading for Mick Jagger. So he uses the only weapon he has.

“That Telecaster is a really handy swanker,” Richards says. “I just took it off and saw that he was definitely going for Mick and nobody else was gonna get in the way so I just swung it and caught him right there (in the neck).” The guy was OK, but more importantly “the damn thing stayed in tune, and this is the greatest advert for Fender.” That scene is at the 1:15 point in the fourth video.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-release-videos-from-new-81-archive-live-album/

I would love to see the Leeds show.  But notice that on Brussels Affair, they were too cheap to pay Chuck Berry royalties and cut out "Bye, Bye, Johnnie."  This doesn't bode well for future live covers, though "Let it Rock" has of course been anthologized before.




P.S., Can we get the guy who ran onstage at Hampton 1981 to report on this forum?

andrews27 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Can we get the guy who ran onstage at Hampton 1981 to report on this forum?

He still owes Keith $200. Probably won't out himself here.  :forfucksake

andrews27 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 6:07pm:

But notice that on Brussels Affair, they were too cheap to pay Chuck Berry royalties and cut out "Bye, Bye, Johnnie."

"Bye Bye Johnny" wasn't played in Europe 1973.
It was, however, played on the 1972 North American tour, and was not cut out from "Ladies & Gentlemen...The Rolling Stones".

Yeah, you're right about Europe 1973.  I don't know where my brains are at lately.

:smoking

andrews27 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 6:07pm:

I would love to see the Leeds show.

Leeds '71 wasnt filmed.

Gazza: Leeds '71 wasnt filmed.

I would to love to hear the complete Leeds show.  I would love to see it officially released. Revenge is a fruitless pursuit.

bumping this up, since I'm thinking (hoping) we get the next one in about 4 weeks or so!!! Then again, I've completely lost all sense of time....

Leeds!!! chant it!

andrews27 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 8:29pm:

Gazza: Leeds '71 wasnt filmed. I would to love to hear the complete Leeds show.  I would love to see it officially released. Revenge is a fruitless pursuit.

i would like to hear and see an upgraded marquee show!!!

After Hampton "Still life " the next one will be for sure Love you Live or "Paris 76" lol

they have never shown more  originality in this field and have nothing to f... with this!

Pdog wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

bumping this up, since I'm thinking (hoping) we get the next one in about 4 weeks or so!!! Then again, I've completely lost all sense of time.... Leeds!!! chant it!

The next one comes out on April 3rd.  

Strong rumours that it'll be an LA '75 concert, but these 'rumours' have been wide of the mark before.

my sources source says maybe........

Gazza wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:37am:

Pdog wrote on Mar 30th, 2012 at 8:35am: bumping this up, since I'm thinking (hoping) we get the next one in about 4 weeks or so!!! Then again, I've completely lost all sense of time.... Leeds!!! chant it! The next one comes out on April 3rd.   Strong rumours that it'll be an LA '75 concert, but these 'rumours' have been wide of the mark before.

I had no idea it was so soon, guess my Stones alarm clock just knew to go off... got that itch... I'd like to hear 1975 in all it's glory, without the LYL dubs...

Here's a thread with the supposed cover-very cool and if it's not real then somebody did a great job faking this one!  :nooslajaleisk

http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=78815

The-Worst wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 9:36pm:

Here's a thread with the supposed cover-very cool and if it's not real then somebody did a great job faking this one!  :nooslajaleisk http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=78815

it does look like what they've been doing...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l83/pdogsf/43a935e3.jpg

It IS LA '75...it's up on Google Music for $4.99.

Hey MRD8
WHICH Los Angeles show? Would you know please?
I'm dying to find out; but I can't check googlemusic as I'm in Europe.

If it's "LA Friday" then that would be 11th July, which WAS a Friday.

Yes I know, Gazza, but I don't think we can "trust" it to be the friday show just because of the title, because they are using "famous bootleg titles" for their releases. And the "LA Friday" bootleg was the Sunday show.
If it really is the July 11th show....then they made a poor choice, as it's the definitive worst show of LA....and one of the worst show of the entire tour, as well (IMO)

It's hard to tell right now...no notaion that I can find.
There are 24 songs on it and the setlists for the LA shows
are all the same ...The 2nd show was professionally
filmed...so maybe that one, July 10, 1975

No it's the July 11th show that's available on video.
The setlist doesn't say us which show it is, that's true, but somebody need to download, and listen to a song or two. (wish I could do that myself)

we will get an idea soon enough which specific show/shows it is... There's folks out there who have memorized the Millard tapes and can decipher every bit... may take some time, but if The Stones have mish moshed the tapes, it will be reconciled!!! I just hope it sounds good!

I think  it's the July 11th show, I've heard  that Eagle Rock is going to release the LA show in May/June...imagine having it on bluray!:)

Erik_Snow wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 6:54am:

No it's the July 11th show that's available on video. The setlist doesn't say us which show it is, that's true, but somebody need to download, and listen to a song or two. (wish I could do that myself)

Well...I got my info from THE SOURCE...RO set list pages!!!
http://rocksoff.org/1975p3.htm

i've searched all over google music and cant find it?........

gimmekeef wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 8:11am:

i've searched all over google music and cant find it?........

Try Google PLAY...

I find that odd...as it comes up almost straight away when i click on PLAY ( top of google home page)  

MRD8 wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 7:45am:

I think  it's the July 11th show, I've heard  that Eagle Rock is going to release the LA show in May/June...imagine having it on bluray!:)

oh my!!!

If "LA Friday" is actually the Sunday show we'll be able to hear the whole "why aren't you in church" shtick.  That was even the title of one of the boots.

IT'S NOT THE FILMED SHOW..."IF YOU CANT ROCK ME" IS DEF NOT THE SAME.
CRANKIN THAT SHIT TO 11 RIGHT NOW.
MAN, WOODY COULD PLAY A GUITAR BACK IN THE DAY.

ITS DEF THE SUNDAY SHOW..MICK SAYS SO BEFORE TUMBLIN DICE. IT' S NOT THEIR BEST SHOW BY ANY MEANS.

BILL PERKS wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 10:02am:

ITS DEF THE SUNDAY SHOW..MICK SAYS SO BEFORE TUMBLIN DICE. IT' S NOT THEIR BEST SHOW BY ANY MEANS.

July 9th and July 12th is better than July 13th; but July 13th is still fuckin great

According to the ones who's been able to download this; this is a mixture of several LA shows. July 13th, for the most.

GREAT release!

Paranoid Android wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 8:07am:

Erik_Snow wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 6:54am: No it's the July 11th show that's available on video. The setlist doesn't say us which show it is, that's true, but somebody need to download, and listen to a song or two. (wish I could do that myself) Well...I got my info from THE SOURCE...RO set list pages!!! http://rocksoff.org/1975p3.htm

F**k me. I can't believe I put that in the wrong column. The filmed concert was the 11th July show.

Thanks for - inadvertently - bringing it to my attention!

New archive release seems to be the 13th July (Sunday) show.

Hope so, as its a better performance than the 11th.

The new release is all from July 13th as far as I can tell...Keith is up in the mix...Billy Preston and Ollie  Brown smokin' hot...Heartbreaker and Sympathy are goosebump inducing brilliance...one of THE best live Stones recordings EVER...thanks Bob Clearmountain!

MRD8 wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 12:44pm:

The new release is all from July 13th as far as I can tell...Keith is up in the mix...Billy Preston and Ollie  Brown smokin' hot...Heartbreaker and Sympathy are goosebump inducing brilliance...one of THE best live Stones recordings EVER...thanks Bob Clearmountain!

Yet they've actually given the show the title "L.A. Friday" - is that correct?

How difficult would THAT have been to amend (they could have used the old 'Who Went to Church On Sunday?' title to avoid confusion)

IT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just got it!!!! :wtf2

I still can't believe it. For $ 4.99 a piece I'm getting these treasures which I have longed for for sooooooo long. Keep 'em coming!!!

i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui

hmmm no Fanfare intro...?......finally found this on google music....

Mick and Keith talk about "LA Live '75' and some LA Forum footage included


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaR1I3BYq5Q&sns=fb

rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 1:44pm:

i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui

Does it?

Why?

Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out.

I think the majority of the show was from July 13th because it definately has the bit about Who went to church this sunday. Fantastic JJ Flash.

Gazza wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 4:33pm:

rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:44pm: i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui Does it? Why? Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out.

3 more to go... no reason why we can't see all early era stuff... 69, 71 and 77... Leeds El Macombo and somethnig USA 69 would be awesome....

Pdog wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Gazza wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 4:33pm: rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:44pm: i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui Does it? Why? Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out. 3 more to go... no reason why we can't see all early era stuff... 69, 71 and 77... Leeds El Macombo and somethnig USA 69 would be awesome....

Will anything from the ABKCO era need their blessing?

I've listened to about half of this  so far- I ran late for work because I wanted to download it so that I could blast it in the car on my way to and from work (I have a long commute).  At one point (I forget after which song because I've only heard it once Mick says "This is our last night in Los Angeles...this year!" So unless it's a mix of different night's it's definitely the last show.

:interestingstuffronnie

I think this recording clearly debunks a few things... one, that without Taylor they sucked. Two, that Ronnie not only shines, he was meant to be a Stones if anyone not in the original line up already was...
what it also does, it gives me a real idea of what I missed, but now can hear.. for many of us LYL was just not it... no matter how much we wanted it to be!!!

Pdog wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 11:01am:

I think this recording clearly debunks a few things... one, that without Taylor they sucked. Two, that Ronnie not only shines, he was meant to be a Stones if anyone not in the original line up already was... what it also does, it gives me a real idea of what I missed, but now can hear.. for many of us LYL was just not it... no matter how much we wanted it to be!!!

The 75 tour never gets the respect it should imho...I saw 6 shows and they rocked...far better than 81 The Ernie Watts tour....but each to his own!

OKAY kids, what should we wish for next?

Gazza wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 4:33pm:

rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:44pm: i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui Does it? Why? Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out.

We had LYL and Friday, TOTAs and Euro 76 and a bit of El Mocambo 77, dont thing they (and us) want to overload these era.

Only Brussels was the surprise....

Might be on the same album (although the credits on LYL tell a few lies in order to preserve some publishing rights) but '77 wasn't in any way similar to 75-76.

We already had a movie and a live album from 1981 - didnt stop them releasing Hampton as a download as well.

Every major tour from 1972 onwards now has a live album or an archive release (unless you count No Security which was sort of a tour within a tour)

In the newsgroups in flac

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dadrob wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 1:28pm:

OKAY kids, what should we wish for next?

El-mo'-fuckin-cambo!

If theyre intent on releasing well-known 'titles' (even if the track listings and sources get changed around a bit) then you'd think "Live R Than You'll Ever Be" must be in with a good chance of a touch-up for a release.

Nellcote wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2012 at 6:40pm:

Pdog wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 5:00pm: Gazza wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 4:33pm: rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:44pm: i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui Does it? Why? Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out. 3 more to go... no reason why we can't see all early era stuff... 69, 71 and 77... Leeds El Macombo and somethnig USA 69 would be awesome.... Will anything from the ABKCO era need their blessing?

I don't think that's much of a problem anymore.

They SHOULD release a Brian Jones-era show. If they're going to honour or mark their 50th anniversary, it would be ridiculous to ignore that period altogether (the period for which they'll forever be most associated to the wider public) as if it didnt exist.

Gazza wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2012 at 2:14pm:

Nellcote wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 6:40pm: Pdog wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 5:00pm: Gazza wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 4:33pm: rogerriffin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 1:44pm: i´m sad, sad because this confirms we never will listening El Mocambo show from official source... :tongui Does it? Why? Mocambo wasnt from the same tour. No reason why it still cant come out. 3 more to go... no reason why we can't see all early era stuff... 69, 71 and 77... Leeds El Macombo and somethnig USA 69 would be awesome.... Will anything from the ABKCO era need their blessing? I don't think that's much of a problem anymore. They SHOULD release a Brian Jones-era show. If they're going to honour or mark their 50th anniversary, it would be ridiculous to ignore that period altogether (the period for which they'll forever be most associated to the wider public) as if it didnt exist.

I agree totally, the only drawback would be the screaming, but that's expected, I don't know if they practiced well enough for a tour in the 60's with all the screaming, maybe they figured nobody can hear us anyway, & didn't take it that seriously, I don't know what they did back then to get ready for a tour, not like today when there's no screaming.

I think they will jump into the 94 era next.....Oakland Halloween show?...then a Licks club show and the the earliest 60's show they have.....or the Chess stuff?....its all good....

Are there any good boots of the Brian era out there? What did the setlist look like in '67?

I hope that they decide to do even more of these downloads in the future.  It's dirt cheap for fans and while I imagine their sales are huge, I'd guess 99% of the price is profit.  There is no manuafacturing or distribution costs.  Basically they just need someone to clean them up and remaster them & someone to put together some cool artwork and then upload them to the Google website.  They are obviously putting out all the biggest boots first, but I would imagine the could do this every 2 months for the next 50 years if they want! I hope 3 more is not the end!!

:nomames

Go it !

Love the sound and the new boy on guitar is pretty good!
Many complaints about the sound on IORR, I can tell you it sounds perfect on my Yam HS80 speakers and Appogee duet card!

great job by Stonesarchive, how lucky are we to have now these fantastic show for a very decent price.

it's a good time to be a Stones fan...

Can someone please remind me where I can obtain this recording?  I'm a little thick. :pullanolte

The groove on Fingerprint File is amazing.. Is it Bill on bass? it's damn hot!

Jumacfly wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 8:32am:

The groove on Fingerprint File is amazing.. Is it Bill on bass? it's damn hot!

It's Ronnie !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wBe4ph6Co


:aimama

It's Wicked Pissa!
I was quite lucky to see Ronnie three times that year...
Feb-Faces
June-Stones
October-Faces
On that October Faces jaunt, Rod was working in Jesse Ed Davis, who performed on Atlantic Crossing.

Zack wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

Can someone please remind me where I can obtain this recording?  I'm a little thick. :pullanolte

https://play.google.com/music/listen#start_pl

are the flac files ummmm available yet to us in USA?.....

I bought yesterday in .Flac, i´m burning in cds now and uploading in rapidshare, maybe in few hour i will get the links for share.

email me if you are interested.


regards

rogerriffin wrote on Apr 4^th, 2012 at 11:03am:

I bought yesterday in .Flac, i´m burning in cds now and uploading in rapidshare, maybe in few hour i will get the links for share. email me if you are interested. regards

Roger!  Check PM!   :areyoufuckingserious

Flacs on Demonoid

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2898183/11833599/

thanks dog.....got em now......

still hoping that u.s. residents get a chance to buy the flacs, but this release was too much to pass up... i bought the mp3s, and am thrilled i did. ycagwyw is an all-time fave, and it sounds the best i have heard it here. the whole show rips. some crossfades, but all notes played are present (i think), and the two billy tunes get included, too, which is a nice touch. millard's tapes were actually pretty close, in spite of how many times they were stepped on. funny they called it "la friday," but maybe they are just using the commonly known titles (i thought the actual bedspring boot was not the show they released)...

would love to see the el mocambo come out as a box set-everything they have in a nice package with pics, etc.

for a one show candidate for this archival series, i would dig seeing one of the australia '73 shows, something from europe in the seventies, other than knebworth '76,  or a complete '69 gig like from charlotte or seattle that just shreds (with a sympathy that is complete)...

the Millard tapes were great, but IMO, they don't come close!!!

from what I've been told, box sets are one of the few forms of physical media that still sell well enough to make money...
will be interesting to see if they combine these releases, maybe add some stuff and do a box set...

"Mickboy" put out some great mixes.

all i'm saying is, all the stuff out there before was audience stuff from LA... and all those different versions, was people messing with EQ, compressing, trying to remove crowd noise, enhance some instrument... you can only do so much with a recording that doesn't have multi tracls, let alone is just an aud recording... We got something we never really had before, this isn't a official release of a previos boot, b/c unlikne the archives, this never circulated in a soundboard version period!

agreed, this release is something special, which is why i dove in, even if i disagree with the model here in the u.s.

re: previous boots, all i said was i am surprised at how close the millard source is, even though most of what i have heard has been touched (i think i said "stepped on" earlier) more times than one can count. certainly this official release is the best this show has sounded. i dont think anybody would try to argue against that...

and it is great.

along with ycagwyw, wild horses, might have its finest live moment, here, too.

Do you think LA '75 will ever see a DVD release?

StonesFan1990 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

Do you think LA '75 will ever see a DVD release?

I'm beginning to think it might.

Interesting that the Stones official youtube channel have uploaded this video of IORR from LA'75 to promote the new archives release :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6kagl0gcI0&feature=player_embedded

Great to see it in perfect quality, although aren't they re-writing history again by claiming it's from the 13th July show that they've just released on stonesarchive.com ?

I havent compared the two, but surely this footage is from the circulating video from 11th July.

Do you think the sound quality on this new release by Stones is better than the
bootleg LA Friday? :perverted

rocksozz wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:36am:

Do you think the sound quality on this new release by Stones is better than the bootleg LA Friday? :perverted

it is hard to tell from your wording...
You may or may not know this...but they are not the same show...
the new release has been shown to be the SUNDAY night show...

For what it's worth, when this was released a few days ago the offical press release on Facebook stated that the show being released was from Sunday however, many of the boots of the show were mistakening labeled "LA Friday"  as if it was the Friday show.  The said they kept the name "LA Friday" to keep it true to the original release.  They make it sound like what has been known as LA Friday was the Sunday show all along.  Now that wouldn't explain Mick's church rant but perhaps the 2 shows were mixed together and much of LA Friday was Sunday all along.

Everyone follow?  :nooslajaleisk :blankfriggingstare1 :pukey :nomames :wow :aimama :forfucksake

The bootleg version of this show was titled "who went to church"

Listening to it on the cans right now and...wow, what sound. We already knew that but Ronnie was a great lead player when he first joined...they were right to release the '78 show first, it doesn't sound like the same band or the same lead guitar player. I guess Billy "the facile musician that Keith was happy to see gone" Preston has something to do with it. Nice to see they included his tunes here, he must be smilin' up there.

gotdablouse wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Listening to it on the cans right now and...wow, what sound. We already knew that but Ronnie was a great lead player when he first joined...they were right to release the '78 show first, it doesn't sound like the same band or the same lead guitar player. I guess Billy "the facile musician that Keith was happy to see gone" Preston has something to do with it. Nice to see they included his tunes here, he must be smilin' up there.

I think it was the departure of Billy Preston, also I think in 1975 the Stones were still trying to go for the "clear difference between lead and rhythm live" dynamic which they had with Taylor, but at some point decided that it was better for Keith and Ronnie to trade leads and solos--To be more like Brian and Keth. As the new guy, stepping into Mick T's shoes for the first time in '75, I think Ronnie did as much as he could to be the "lead player" that Mick was, but then he or the band decided on the "weaving" method instead.
And Billy's contributions to the band are unsung in some ways, he helped contribute to their live sound in the 70s. It's why I hope LA '75 is released on DVD someday because then you'd have DVDs of pretty much every version of the band--The Brian Years, a few DVDs of the Mick Taylor years, The Mid 70s with Ronnie (a transitional period), 1978 Texas, 1981 (the last smaller Stones shows), and 1989 and onward.

Oh my god, the story about Keith passing out at Muddy Waters' house and waking up in Howlin' Wolf's house is PRICELESS!

The "LA Friday" .flac files' sound (and mix) is revelatory and incredibly engaging.  I won't be kicking out my VGP "Gold" discs, though - there's a great vibe in Mike Millard's AUD capture.  Bless 'em both.

My first shows were in 75.
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium in June
Rich Stadium in August.

Can someone PLEASE burn this into a CD for me.
PM Me.

xoxo
LJ

FPM wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:42pm:

Oh my god, the story about Keith passing out at Muddy Waters' house and waking up in Howlin' Wolf's house is PRICELESS!

Agreed.
His explanation of how The Stones woke America up to their own music was also good.

Yep, as well as his explanations on the Brian/MickT/Ron interactions. Mick looks "different" in that video, looks like he'd just had his eyes "stretched" or something...interesting that he mentioned Ollie North too, wonder what happened to him after he became uninvited like Billy. Anyone ever remember reading anything about what happened at the time with Billy? I mean he was around at the El Mocambo (doesn't look like he played on stage though) since he started Miss You with Mick over there and then he didn't make it to the Paris sessions...all I could find was "The Stones and Preston parted company in 1977, mainly due to a row over money" on his wikipedia page...

StonesFan1990 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

gotdablouse wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 5:09pm: Listening to it on the cans right now and...wow, what sound. We already knew that but Ronnie was a great lead player when he first joined...they were right to release the '78 show first, it doesn't sound like the same band or the same lead guitar player. I guess Billy "the facile musician that Keith was happy to see gone" Preston has something to do with it. Nice to see they included his tunes here, he must be smilin' up there. I think it was the departure of Billy Preston, also I think in 1975 the Stones were still trying to go for the "clear difference between lead and rhythm live" dynamic which they had with Taylor, but at some point decided that it was better for Keith and Ronnie to trade leads and solos--To be more like Brian and Keth. As the new guy, stepping into Mick T's shoes for the first time in '75, I think Ronnie did as much as he could to be the "lead player" that Mick was, but then he or the band decided on the "weaving" method instead. And Billy's contributions to the band are unsung in some ways, he helped contribute to their live sound in the 70s. It's why I hope LA '75 is released on DVD someday because then you'd have DVDs of pretty much every version of the band--The Brian Years, a few DVDs of the Mick Taylor years, The Mid 70s with Ronnie (a transitional period), 1978 Texas, 1981 (the last smaller Stones shows), and 1989 and onward.

It was what was happening at the time... in 73 Stones still payed faster and shows were quicker, but the enrgy made that moot. By 75, bands were becoming bloated, and playing songs really long and drwn out. The Stones just were a part of it, not even so much willingly, it was just in the atmosphere and what was expected... it is great that we see how they, no matter, could roll and evolve. With every new tour and channge in pop and all the street music too, The Stones ate it up, and kept giving it back to us... by 78, they not only went back to the weave Keith and Brain had been working on and dropping the long extened songs like YCAGWW, Shelter, Sympathy... they weaved, added all new songs and tore through their setlists... with 73, 75 and 78 at our disposal to really listen to, it's like hearing truly three different bands, but the same band... talk about being able to metamorphosize! Non band pops into my mind that not only was able to be themselves, remain authentic, while still being contemporary and reaching so many, in other words being succesful as all get out!!! And add the sexuality, drugs and overall craziness of the creativity... Just listening to Happy on 75, the wheels fall the fuck off, but someohow they get through and end up blowing the doors off the place anyway!!! Fuck !!! Preaching to the choir again, I guess! Enjoy your Passover, happy freedom from bondage day!!!

gotdablouse wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 7:29am:

..interesting that he mentioned Ollie North too, wonder what happened to him after he became uninvited like Billy...

http://www.thethirdcity.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ollie-north.jpg
After his stint playing percussion on TOTA 1975, North was at the center of national
attention during the Iran-Contra affair, a political scandal of the late 1980s. North was
a National Security Council staff member involved in the clandestine sale of weapons
to Iran, which served to encourage the release of U.S. hostages from Lebanon. North
formulated the second part of the plan: diverting proceeds from the arms sales to
support the Contra rebel groups in Nicaragua (funding to the Contras had been
prohibited under the Boland Amendment amidst widespread public opposition in
the U.S. and controversies surrounding human rights abuses by the Contras).


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North was charged with several
felonies and convicted of three,
but the convictions were later
vacated, and the underlying
charges dismissed due to the
limited immunity agreement
granted for his pre-trial public
Congressional testimony about
the affair.

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In 1991, Oliver North appeared on the first season of The Jerry Springer Show.

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In 1994, North unsuccessfully ran for the Senate as the Republican
candidate in Virginia. On the eve of the election, former first lady
Nancy Reagan told a reporter that North had lied to her husband
when discussing Iran-Contra with the former president, effectively
stopping his campaign. North lost to incumbent Democrat Charles
Robb, a son-in-law of (Some Joey Content alert!) President Lyndon
B. Johnson.

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North is currently the host of the television show War
Stories with Oliver North, and a regular commentator
on Hannity, both on the Fox News Channel.

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He is generally remembered as a dick, and the worst
percussionist the Stones ever worked with.

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Ollie Brown, on
the other hand,  
currently works
in the real estate
industry.

Nice work and nice wig for Ollie B.

Pdog wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 7:32am:

StonesFan1990 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 7:20pm: gotdablouse wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 5:09pm: Listening to it on the cans right now and...wow, what sound. We already knew that but Ronnie was a great lead player when he first joined...they were right to release the '78 show first, it doesn't sound like the same band or the same lead guitar player. I guess Billy "the facile musician that Keith was happy to see gone" Preston has something to do with it. Nice to see they included his tunes here, he must be smilin' up there. I think it was the departure of Billy Preston, also I think in 1975 the Stones were still trying to go for the "clear difference between lead and rhythm live" dynamic which they had with Taylor, but at some point decided that it was better for Keith and Ronnie to trade leads and solos--To be more like Brian and Keth. As the new guy, stepping into Mick T's shoes for the first time in '75, I think Ronnie did as much as he could to be the "lead player" that Mick was, but then he or the band decided on the "weaving" method instead. And Billy's contributions to the band are unsung in some ways, he helped contribute to their live sound in the 70s. It's why I hope LA '75 is released on DVD someday because then you'd have DVDs of pretty much every version of the band--The Brian Years, a few DVDs of the Mick Taylor years, The Mid 70s with Ronnie (a transitional period), 1978 Texas, 1981 (the last smaller Stones shows), and 1989 and onward. It was what was happening at the time... in 73 Stones still payed faster and shows were quicker, but the enrgy made that moot. By 75, bands were becoming bloated, and playing songs really long and drwn out. The Stones just were a part of it, not even so much willingly, it was just in the atmosphere and what was expected... it is great that we see how they, no matter, could roll and evolve. With every new tour and channge in pop and all the street music too, The Stones ate it up, and kept giving it back to us... by 78, they not only went back to the weave Keith and Brain had been working on and dropping the long extened songs like YCAGWW, Shelter, Sympathy... they weaved, added all new songs and tore through their setlists... with 73, 75 and 78 at our disposal to really listen to, it's like hearing truly three different bands, but the same band... talk about being able to metamorphosize! Non band pops into my mind that not only was able to be themselves, remain authentic, while still being contemporary and reaching so many, in other words being succesful as all get out!!! And add the sexuality, drugs and overall craziness of the creativity... Just listening to Happy on 75, the wheels fall the fuck off, but someohow they get through and end up blowing the doors off the place anyway!!! Fuck !!! Preaching to the choir again, I guess! Enjoy your Passover, happy freedom from bondage day!!!

Amen to everything in this post. It really is like three different bands and they did ride the waves of music well. But in 1975 they were basically doing the same thing as they did in '72 and '73. Many of the songs even had the same arrangements.

1975 to me is really interesting because it's the only live year where Ronnie was THE clearly defined lead guitarist. It showcase his guitar skills in a way future tours and records don't. He is basically doing the same thing on songs like Street Fighting Man or Sympathy that Mick Taylor did, only in his own guitar style.

Just listened to some of it on my way to work. Fucking thing rocks! :wtf1 :keithpunky

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I'd like some stuff from the Licks Tour. The gig I saw in Utrecht had a nice set, then there was that Exile show in Rotterdam (missed that one..can't have it all I guess) the night after that. Leeds Lungs would be cool for an official release, and there's this show from Shepherds Bush Empire I think I got from Maxy (probably B2B-tour) with a few rarities on the set.  And call me old-fashioned but I want it all on discs.

Other than that, I just hope they release as much deluxe editions as possible in the coming years.

Was on vacation last week... finally listened the whole show...

Fantastic performance what a fucking great show!

Must be due another release soon?

I'm hearing that the next one (being worked on at the moment) will be a latter day club show - and, if its the one I've been told, its a show that's never circulated as a bootleg.  

Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks...

Still unconfirmed officially, though.

Gazza wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Must be due another release soon? I'm hearing that the next one (being worked on at the moment) will be a latter day club show - and, if its the one I've been told, its a show that's never circulated as a bootleg.   Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Still unconfirmed officially, though.

You're such a tease. :wtf3

Gazza wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Must be due another release soon? I'm hearing that the next one (being worked on at the moment) will be a latter day club show - and, if its the one I've been told, its a show that's never circulated as a bootleg.   Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Still unconfirmed officially, though.

phily or whatever they did to kick it off in 1981 never circulated, did it? although, i know you said latter...
hmmm?
uncirculated, no?
Date: 7/19/94
Venue: RPM Club - Toronto, Ontario
Setlist:
Live With Me
You Got Me Rockin'
Tumbling Dice
Shattered
Rocks Off
Sparks Will Fly
Monkey Man
No Expectations
Love Is Strong
Brand New Car
Honky Tonk Woman
I Go Wild
Start Me Up
Street Fighting Man
Brown Sugar
Can't Get Next To You

available?

Date: Tuesday, June 8, 1999      
Venue: Shepherds Bush Empire - London, England      
Setlist:
1. Shattered      
2. It's Only Rock 'n Roll      
3. Respectable      
4. All Down The Line      
5. Some Girls      
6. Melody      
7. I Got The Blues      
8. Brand New Car      
9. Moon Is Up (1st time played live)      
10. Saint Of Me      
11. Honky Tonk Woman      
12. You Got The Silver      
13. Before They Make Me Run      
14. Route 66      
15. You Got Me Rocking      
16. Tumblin' Dice      
17. Brown Sugar      
18. Jumping Jack Flash      

am I close, or did i miss other club shows that never circulated? i'm guessing latter day is 1989 or later....

both of the shows you listed there are easily available on bootleg.

By 'latter era', I meant Vegas era (1989 onwards)

The following club/theatre shows from that date onwards have never circulated

Toronto 4.9.97
Kona, Hawaii 21.1.98 (Pepsi corporate gig)
Las Vegas 16.11.02 (Private gig)
Toronto 10.8.05
Barcelona 12.7.07 (Deutsche Bank corporate gig)


You're correct about the 1981 show never circulating (it was in Worcester, Ma. 14/9/81). Even the setlist isnt 100% confirmed. Neither of the two gigs at London's 100 Club in 1982 and 1986 have circulated either. The second one was reportedly not even recorded by the band as it was a Stu tribute gig - although according to other rumours, Paul McCartney (who wasnt even there) owns a copy.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Must be due another release soon? I'm hearing that the next one (being worked on at the moment) will be a latter day club show - and, if its the one I've been told, its a show that's never circulated as a bootleg.   Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Still unconfirmed officially, though. You're such a tease. :wtf3

The clue is there!

Stu tribute 1986???

:willya

Of course I pray for that one, and I know is not a clue about it up there

Gazza wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks...

Gotcha!  :areyoufuckingserious

Rising from the flames-Volcanos in Hawaii? What were the set lists of those shows? Is that even known?

:scary :nomames :blankfriggingstare1

erikjjf wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 12:08pm:

Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Gotcha!  :areyoufuckingserious

The Phoenix? Toronto?

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 2:04pm:

erikjjf wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 12:08pm: Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Gotcha!  :areyoufuckingserious The Phoenix? Toronto?

Wasn't there a boot of that pre-tour club show though?

gimmekeef wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 2:09pm:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 2:04pm: erikjjf wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 12:08pm: Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Gotcha!  :areyoufuckingserious The Phoenix? Toronto? Wasn't there a boot of that pre-tour club show though?

There wasnt (as far as I'm aware). Videos of two songs were uploaded to rs.com, however.

This is indeed the show that I've been told will be the next release.  Its being worked on anyway, I believe. We'll see in a few weeks if it's the next one, I suppose.

Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 7:52pm:

Stu tribute 1986??? :willya

The setlist is awesome !  i hope it will be this one

Gazza wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 3:05pm:

gimmekeef wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 2:09pm: sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 2:04pm: erikjjf wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 12:08pm: Gazza wrote on May 20th, 2012 at 4:42pm: Hopefully it'll be 'rising from the flames' in a few weeks... Gotcha!  :areyoufuckingserious The Phoenix? Toronto? Wasn't there a boot of that pre-tour club show though? There wasnt (as far as I'm aware). Videos of two songs were uploaded to rs.com, however. This is indeed the show that I've been told will be the next release.  Its being worked on anyway, I believe. We'll see in a few weeks if it's the next one, I suppose.

Gazza...yes no boots I can see....was confused with the Palais shows.....Setlist for this show not inspired though.....

if gazza is right, this will be way uncharted... last release had seen those millard recordings from the audience... but this would be very new to us, except for the two cover songs that went on dvd....



10th August: Toronto, Canada, Phoenix Concert Theatre
                 Unverified set:
                 (Rough Justice/Live With Me/19th Nervous Breakdown/She's So Cold/Dead
                  Flowers/Back Of My Hand/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/Band introduction/Infamy/
                  Oh No, Not You Again/Get Up, Stand Up/Mr. Pitiful/Tumbling Dice/Brown
                  Sugar/Jumping Jack Flash)
                 Note: Warm-up clubgig for the upcoming Bigger Bang-Tour. The complete show
                           was professionally filmed and Get Up, Stand Up and Mr. Pitiful released on
                           the 4 DVD-boxset 'The Biggest Bang' in 2007 (see 070612A).
                 Line-up:  MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr, voc)/RW (gtr)/CW (dr)/Darryl Jones (bass)
                                 Bobby Keys (tsax)/Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Lisa Fischer (bvoc)/Bernard
                                 Fowler (bvoc)/Blondie Chaplin (bvoc)/The New West Horns [Tim Ries
                                 (sax, keyb)/Michael Davis (tb)/Kent Smith (tp)](brass)

4 weeks or so until next release?

I believe LA Friday was released in the beginning of April-these boots are being released every 2 months so I think we are looking for the next release within the next two weeks!  :nooslajaleisk

off topic, but inspired to revisit 2002 club gig boot...

off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance...

FPM wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:13pm:

off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance...

that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it....

FPM wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:13pm:

off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance...

WORD.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
IS THIS NAZI GERMANY?
OBERGRUPPENFUHRER GAZZA(SAID JOKINGLY)?

Pdog wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:09pm:

FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it....

IF IT WAS ME PDOG,I WAS JOKING.I TRY TO HAVE SOME FUN ON HERE.

I'm used to threads getting locked because of the usual bullshit, but it's just gone.

Not that I blame anyone for being REALLY tired of it.

Pdog wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:09pm:

FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it....

Boy don't I hear ya?! All was well until someone decided to make it personal. Too bad the thread is gone though. If it hadn't been deleted everybody could easily see who the culprit was. Here's another clue for you all....t'wasn't me! Ah yes, the usual suspect. Some are too blind to see whom that actually is though.

Back on topic-Atlanta 1981. That's what I want. Won't happen, but a guy can wish, no?


Riffy

I wonder if they'd ever release the full El Mocambo show? Prolly not, but I'd love to hear the whole show in pristine condition.


Riffy

Riffhard wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:20pm:

Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:09pm: FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it.... Boy don't I hear ya?! All was well until someone decided to make it personal. Too bad the thread is gone though. If it hadn't been deleted everybody could easily see who the culprit was. Here's another clue for you all....t'wasn't me! Ah yes, the usual suspect. Some are too blind to see whom that actually is though. Back on topic-Atlanta 1981. That's what I want. Won't happen, but a guy can wish, no? Riffy

All was well until the usual drama queens went down the usual wrong road...20 million fucking poltical sites on the web....But you fuckers gotta bring it here. No chance of keeping it in your pants between now and November huh girls? :charlieperv

Pdog wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:09pm:

FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it....

This is a perfect example of why this board fucking sucks nowadays. Threads deleted that actually had good content. This message board is a shadow of what it used to be. Instead of dealing with the people (person) that constantly trolls this  board with political bullshit,  entire threads are deleted. Fucking stupid.

:thatwassmart

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:11pm:

Riffhard wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:20pm: Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:09pm: FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it.... Boy don't I hear ya?! All was well until someone decided to make it personal. Too bad the thread is gone though. If it hadn't been deleted everybody could easily see who the culprit was. Here's another clue for you all....t'wasn't me! Ah yes, the usual suspect. Some are too blind to see whom that actually is though. Back on topic-Atlanta 1981. That's what I want. Won't happen, but a guy can wish, no? Riffy All was well until the usual drama queens went down the usual wrong road...20 million fucking poltical sites on the web....But you fuckers gotta bring it here. No chance of keeping it in your pants between now and November huh girls? :charlieperv

We are all guilty SCL.  Lenoid does make a good point.

leonid wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 3:49am:

Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:09pm: FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it.... This is a perfect example of why this board fucking sucks nowadays. Threads deleted that actually had good content. This message board is a shadow of what it used to be. Instead of dealing with the people (person) that constantly trolls this  board with political bullshit,  entire threads are deleted. Fucking stupid. :thatwassmart

No need to get your panties in a twist, leonid. The thread disappeared due to a technical problem with the server. Not the first time thats happened.

Now, on with the show.

to keep it all in perspective...blogs are for voicing opinions and like assholes we all have them........To attack someone based on their opinion takes me back to high school...and I dont wanna go there thanks

Riffhard wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:35pm:

I wonder if they'd ever release the full El Mocambo show? Prolly not, but I'd love to hear the whole show in pristine condition. Riffy

I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one.

Supposedly there were technical problems with the recordings of the first Mocambo show (4th March 1977) rendering the tapes unusable. As far as I'm aware, all the circulating recordings (including the four LYL songs) come from the following night. (the band intros are definitely from the 5th, anyway, as Mick says 'there's the bottom pincher from last night!').

So, IF we get El Mocambo, I think it'll be the 5th March show - but you never know.

By rights, however, we should have at least one release from the Brian Jones era. It would be a travesty to commemorate 50 years of the Stones as a band and ignore that period.

you fuckers rock!

Gazza wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one.

I´d be surprised more if they release it!!!

must be very cool if they release Blind Date Revisited with all entire Barbarians and Stones set!!

well, the best activity was in Late 60´s and 70´s, but why dont think in 90´s or 100Club from 80´s...

Nellcote wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:07am:

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 11:11pm: Riffhard wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:20pm: Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 8:09pm: FPM wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 7:13pm: off-off topic, but I coulda sworn there was a thread about Mick's amazing SNL appearance... that sucks... i got my post taken down and remarked on an extremely hostile comment regarding sexual identity and how my removed post wasn't offensive and one that was remained...same shit different thread, destroys the fun. I'm good until the usual suspect goes all out and flames everyone who isn't like minded, then I respond... I hate myself for doing it.... Boy don't I hear ya?! All was well until someone decided to make it personal. Too bad the thread is gone though. If it hadn't been deleted everybody could easily see who the culprit was. Here's another clue for you all....t'wasn't me! Ah yes, the usual suspect. Some are too blind to see whom that actually is though. Back on topic-Atlanta 1981. That's what I want. Won't happen, but a guy can wish, no? Riffy All was well until the usual drama queens went down the usual wrong road...20 million fucking poltical sites on the web....But you fuckers gotta bring it here. No chance of keeping it in your pants between now and November huh girls? :charlieperv We are all guilty SCL.  Lenoid does make a good point.

i'm def. guilt, i admit i can allow myself to get sucked in, it is like crack, once I start it... I love The Stones more than I give a shit about political ideals... if the world is going to end, I'd rather be rocking then worrying about which ideal made it happen. I lost relationships on here over that crap...

Gazza wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Riffhard wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:35pm: I wonder if they'd ever release the full El Mocambo show? Prolly not, but I'd love to hear the whole show in pristine condition. Riffy I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one. Supposedly there were technical problems with the recordings of the first Mocambo show (4th March 1977) rendering the tapes unusable. As far as I'm aware, all the circulating recordings (including the four LYL songs) come from the following night. (the band intros are definitely from the 5th, anyway, as Mick says 'there's the bottom pincher from last night!'). So, IF we get El Mocambo, I think it'll be the 5th March show - but you never know. By rights, however, we should have at least one release from the Brian Jones era. It would be a travesty to commemorate 50 years of the Stones as a band and ignore that period.

I'm hoping they continue to do it.... seems like it is a win, win... not alot of overhead involved in getting these out, and they seem to enjoy getting them out. The studio catalog deluxe stuff required word and physical releases which don't make money... gaz, thx for the clue.

Gazza wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Riffhard wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:35pm: I wonder if they'd ever release the full El Mocambo show? Prolly not, but I'd love to hear the whole show in pristine condition. Riffy I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one. Supposedly there were technical problems with the recordings of the first Mocambo show (4th March 1977) rendering the tapes unusable. As far as I'm aware, all the circulating recordings (including the four LYL songs) come from the following night. (the band intros are definitely from the 5th, anyway, as Mick says 'there's the bottom pincher from last night!'). So, IF we get El Mocambo, I think it'll be the 5th March show - but you never know. By rights, however, we should have at least one release from the Brian Jones era. It would be a travesty to commemorate 50 years of the Stones as a band and ignore that period.

Gazza,what are the best Brian Jones era shows. i don't think I've ever actually heard one.

sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:01pm:

Gazza wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 7:15am: Riffhard wrote on May 23rd, 2012 at 9:35pm: I wonder if they'd ever release the full El Mocambo show? Prolly not, but I'd love to hear the whole show in pristine condition. Riffy I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one. Supposedly there were technical problems with the recordings of the first Mocambo show (4th March 1977) rendering the tapes unusable. As far as I'm aware, all the circulating recordings (including the four LYL songs) come from the following night. (the band intros are definitely from the 5th, anyway, as Mick says 'there's the bottom pincher from last night!'). So, IF we get El Mocambo, I think it'll be the 5th March show - but you never know. By rights, however, we should have at least one release from the Brian Jones era. It would be a travesty to commemorate 50 years of the Stones as a band and ignore that period. Gazza,what are the best Brian Jones era shows. i don't think I've ever actually heard one.

good question

My only question about El Macombo is that they have already offered up much of it on Love You Live. Would they offer it again in complete form? I hope you're right Gaza.

And yes, what is the best live Brian Jones' era Stones that has not seen the light of day? The only real official live release, GLIYWI, pretty much blows production wise. Did the recording technology that existed back then capture anything worth releasing today? It would be a sweet treat if they have some good material to offer, but I'm not certain that it exists.


Riffy

Riffhard wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 12:40am:

My only question about El Macombo is that they have already offered up much of it on Love You Live. Would they offer it again in complete form? I hope you're right Gaza. And yes, what is the best live Brian Jones' era Stones that has not seen the light of day? The only real official live release, GLIYWI, pretty much blows production wise. Did the recording technology that existed back then capture anything worth releasing today? It would be a sweet treat if they have some good material to offer, but I'm not certain that it exists. Riffy

I dont see the existing LYL songs (which have been edited and overdubbed for the most part) being a problem.

After all, there are three songs on the recent Hampton 1981 release that were on 'Still Life' (Lets Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Time is on My Side)

The GLIYWI live ALBUM is a feeble excuse for a 'live album' (it even has two songs which are studio recordings and have audience noise overdubbed!), but the EP of the same name from the UK tour a year earlier is fantastic. IMO their best live release after Ya Yas prior to the Archive series starting.

There are very few circulating concerts from the era with Brian (1962-67) and, unbelievably, there's not a single US audience recording (the only US show that's in cirulation - Brian's last American performance ironically enough - is a show from Honolulu on 28.7.66 which was broadcast on the radio and which also partly circulates as a soundboard)

That show is probably releasable if it were cleaned up a bit . Paris Olympia 1965 too, a show which was professionally recorded.  I doubt it would be possible to make it as high quality as the ones we've had so far, but I think most people wouldnt reasonably expect it to be.

Another problem is that Stones shows back then lasted 25-40 minutes. Any archive release would realistically need to include two of them at the very least.

rogerriffin wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Gazza wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 7:15am: I'd be surprised and disappointed if thats not one of the six we get this year. It certainly seems to be the 'fans' choice' along with Brussels, and we got THAT one. I´d be surprised more if they release it!!! must be very cool if they release Blind Date Revisited with all entire Barbarians and Stones set!! well, the best activity was in Late 60´s and 70´s, but why dont think in 90´s or 100Club from 80´s...

Blind Date is a bit of a ramshackle show, musically, though, although its not a bad idea to put out a full show (and there were two sets, remember - so there's over 3 hours of music there)

Doubt they'd do it also as theyve already put out a 1978 show and its a similar, but shorter setlist and from the same era.

a June release would be sweet... besides Gazza, nothing else has been rumored that I can find anywhere...
LA 75 was specualated correctly a few days before it was announced...

let's do it... I'm a very busy man.

http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,1619050

Looks like Gazza was right.  [smiley=cool.gif]

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Yes he is !

Hope that he will predict for the next "100 club 1986 "

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since no one has ever heard anything from this gig, this will be awesome... at least in the sense, it will be a never before bootlegged release by the band...
many will complain that it is 2005, but at the same time, they can bring it hard, and this may be one of those nights. Like others I'm hoping for Leeds and Macambo... Paradiso 95 is a great choice, but all of these have already been out there in some form. Am I excited, oh yea!

pass... next!

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

pass... next!

open your mind... it's the stones... did you pass on the tour?

Pdog wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:59am:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 8:48am: pass... next! open your mind... it's the stones... did you pass on the tour?

aah, as of now I'm underwhelmed. Could change though.

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:02am:

Pdog wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 8:59am: Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 8:48am: pass... next! open your mind... it's the stones... did you pass on the tour? aah, as of now I'm underwhelmed. Could change though.

I think this is going to be kick-ass... they wouldn't releaese a bland half ass performance, especially something recent... they know it would get slammed by critics and hardcore fans.

Pdog wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:28am:

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 9:02am: Pdog wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 8:59am: Some Guy wrote on Jun 1st, 2012 at 8:48am: pass... next! open your mind... it's the stones... did you pass on the tour? aah, as of now I'm underwhelmed. Could change though. I think this is going to be kick-ass... they wouldn't releaese a bland half ass performance, especially something recent... they know it would get slammed by critics and hardcore fans.

I'm in.

Looks like the info I was given was correct.

My friend Riffbuk from Portugal who posts on IORR has been sent an advance copy of the artwork :

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/riffbuk/598905_366186813441108_100001493769889_1030796_933690048_n.jpg

I simply do not go for the band after Bill left..too important tot eh interplay...they should have gotten Willie weeks rather than Daryll

I for one will be happy with any release. :areyoufuckingserious

The set list

Rough Justice
Live With Me
19th Nervous Breakdown
She's So Cold
Dead Flowers
Back Of My Hand
Ain't To Proud To Beg
--- Introductions
Infamy (Keith)
Oh No, Not You Again
Get Up, Stand Up
Mr. Pitiful
Tumbling Dice
Brown Sugar
Jumping Jack Flash (encore)

"Get Up, Stand Up" was dazzling. And it'll be great to have the slow, bluesy "19th Nervous Breakdown" on record.

I aint really smelling it.

Some Guy wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 7:03pm:

I aint really smelling it.

Maybe you should step in it first. :smilemick

At first i was thinking..."how dull"...then I thought about it some more,
and realized this will be them fresh from rehearsal...first time in front of an audience...

loads of adrenaline and excitement from the crowd AND from the stage...Sounds good to me!!

It also makes up for no official live album from the last tour...

Back of My Hand is excellent.

I see love, I see misery
Jamming side by side on the stage

Heres my interpretation: MICK/KEEF love to perform together side by side, but at the same time it makes them miserable. Love/Misery = Mick/Keef.

And this part:
I see Goya's paranoias
I can read it like the back of my hand

Goya was a Spainish artist in the 1700's, and his paintings represented some dark, disturbing subject matter, nightmares and wierd images of brutality, but the artwork was stunningly captivating.  

Here's my interpretation: Mick/Keef know there is a disturbing dark side, and it reflects and represents the good/evil within us all, now and throughout the ages.    I love it when Mick/Keef get symbolic!

That song is all Mick.

Gazza wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

That song is all Mick.

party pooper.............

Gazza wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:09am:

That song is all Mick.

AINT THEY ALL?

I really hope it's this week....please, please!!!

Every time the cover art for the last 2 official boots was leaked they became available on Google music the following Monday or Tuesday.  I predict we will see this boot within the next 48 hours!!!

:charlieperv  :nooslajaleisk  :perverted  :smilebrian  :smilemick  :aimama

The-Worst wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2012 at 10:25pm:

Every time the cover art for the last 2 official boots was leaked they became available on Google music the following Monday or Tuesday.  I predict we will see this boot within the next 48 hours!!! :charlieperv  :nooslajaleisk  :perverted  :smilebrian  :smilemick  :aimama

It's 30 minutes until monday where I'm sitting, and I'm excited.
Something from the band, that hasn't even been auduence bootlegged... They keep one upping themselves. They are really getting it right, with these archival releases IMO... at least by giving us what we craved, and also by really showing us then can pull out all stops... I'll hope they keep it going, but if they stop at six, they gave us what we wanted and needed, and you can't always get that!!!

Fake ?

:scary

Nothing?.......damn

riffkeither wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 6:56am:

Fake ? :scary

No...not fake...the speculation of release date has just been incorrect...

Good things come to those who pay the most...or something like that...

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 4:53pm:

riffkeither wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 6:56am: Fake ? :scary No...not fake...the speculation of release date has just been incorrect... Good things come to those who pay the most...or something like that...

:stinkypost



they never announced this shit... Brussels just showed up one day... every release since has just popped up too...


:tongui

Looks like I may have been off slightly!  :interestingstuffronnie

That said, it's going to be any minute now-I can feel it!!!  :scary :nooslajaleisk

Pdog wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 6:37pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 4:53pm: riffkeither wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 6:56am: Fake ? :scary No...not fake...the speculation of release date has just been incorrect... Good things come to those who pay the most...or something like that... :stinkypost they never announced this shit... Brussels just showed up one day... every release since has just popped up too... :tongui

With Brussels, they released it on the day they launched the archive website and store. There was no advance warning.

The Hampton and LA Forum releases we had  a bit of notice as they started dropping hints on their facebook page a few days in advance. Someone leaked the LA forum artwork a couple of days in advance, I think, and that let the cat out of the bag.

There hasnt been any officially sanctioned teasers on this one at all, other than someone leaking to me that it was Toronto 2005 on May 20th and a leak of the artwork last week.

Some people speculated 2nd June as a release date. I've no idea where that came from. Just uneducated guesswork, if anything!

Gazza wrote on Jun 6^th, 2012 at 7:34am:

Pdog wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 6:37pm: Paranoid Android wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 4:53pm: riffkeither wrote on Jun 5th, 2012 at 6:56am: Fake ? :scary No...not fake...the speculation of release date has just been incorrect... Good things come to those who pay the most...or something like that... :stinkypost they never announced this shit... Brussels just showed up one day... every release since has just popped up too... :tongui With Brussels, they released it on the day they launched the archive website and store. There was no advance warning. The Hampton and LA Forum releases we had  a bit of notice as they started dropping hints on their facebook page a few days in advance. Someone leaked the LA forum artwork a couple of days in advance, I think, and that let the cat out of the bag. There hasnt been any officially sanctioned teasers on this one at all, other than someone leaking to me that it was Toronto 2005 on May 20th and a leak of the artwork last week. Some people speculated 2nd June as a release date. I've no idea where that came from. Just uneducated guesswork, if anything!

it's only uneducated looking when it's wrong!

:pukey


If it had been correct, it would've just been forgotten.

I wemt and tried looking to see when I added it to my iTunes, but some of those dates were wrong, since I had gone from Mp3 and getting Flac files later... I was looking for a pattern, so in that sense, I'm definitely responsible for trying to figure out and guess a release date... but I'm so excited, and I lean towards optimism with this band... even though, I shouldn't!!!

gaz, do you remeber the street dates, er um!... I mean cyberspace launches of the titles?

Brussels was November 17th
Hampton was January 31st
LA Friday was 2nd April.


So by that yardstick another release should be imminent.

2 to 2 1/2 months give or take... a total surprise... a Monday, Tuesday and a Thursday... i see no pattern... just like they decide to hit a button when we look ripe for the kill...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rWnogYLwzGE#!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9y2g0n2bB0


Enjoy !

I'm staring at my wall, waiting for this to drop!!!

:wtf1

Wake up ! any infos about it ?


Curious

maybe drop on the July 50th date?....oops I mean the 49th....lol

I'd like to bloody think it'd be out before then, as thats still a month away and its already been 10 weeks since the last release.

Makes  Sense Now!! Light The Fuse!! A Bigger Bang
Looks like a 4th Of July Release

Rizo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

Makes  Sense Now!! Light The Fuse!! A Bigger Bang Looks like a 4th Of July Release

Welcome, Rizo.

Interesting 'take' on the title, although I just assumed the 'light the fuse' title for a warm up show was a nod to the fact that it precedes a 'big bang'.... :)

Rizo wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 8:02pm:

Makes  Sense Now!! Light The Fuse!! A Bigger Bang Looks like a 4th Of July Release

good call- that makes a lot of sense, at least in USA.

Some Guy wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

Rizo wrote on Jun 12th, 2012 at 8:02pm: Makes  Sense Now!! Light The Fuse!! A Bigger Bang Looks like a 4th Of July Release good call- that makes a lot of sense, at least in USA.

Let's hurry up and do this. I'm wearing out LA Friday. :warhorse

Where is this thing?!?   :forfucksake